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Atillah Moor
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"Has anyone heard anything praising Zion Williamson's character or intell..."


  

          

Or are they still doing that thing where Americans with brown skin are described as physical commodities on Wall Street?

Amazing specimen, basketball IQ, superhuman (lol)

I'm sitting here with this huge ass smirk on my face as they talk about these picks on ESPN

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here's an article on ESPN seemingly bout
Jun 19th 2019
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what are you talking about?
Jun 19th 2019
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"‘His heart is so big it could probably lift 1,000 pounds"
Jun 19th 2019
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ESPN and I was thinking the same thing. Dude is obviously well adjusted
Jun 19th 2019
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      because it's draft coverage.
Jun 19th 2019
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           Plus, if you were to focus on one players athletic gifts it would be Zio...
Jun 19th 2019
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           How dare they talk about an athletes athleticism on draft day
Jun 20th 2019
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                Still seems like they have a different language for some of these guys
Jun 20th 2019
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                     Either you don’t watch a lot of espn/sports
Jun 20th 2019
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                     I'm not emotionally invested in sports thus the disconnect
Jun 20th 2019
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                          Like I said... you must be bored
Jun 21st 2019
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                     yeah. basketball IQ.
Jun 20th 2019
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                          Something a regular IQ wouldn't account for? Could just he's really smar...
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                               He went to college for 6 months
Jun 21st 2019
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                               muthafucka have you ever played basketball?
Jun 21st 2019
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I mean... he's the most exciting collegiate player in... how long?
Jun 19th 2019
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Cool thanks for the insight. He's definitely an exciting player
Jun 20th 2019
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Does anyone talk about how smart of a scientist Bruce Banner is?
Jun 19th 2019
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It's how they talk about it. From my one example anyway
Jun 20th 2019
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tons of times. hell im surprised we dont know his neighbors by now
Jun 19th 2019
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While watching the playoffs I was just thinking how coverage has changed
Jun 20th 2019
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I feel you
Jun 21st 2019
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There just aren’t that many good white players to use those dumb ass.....
Jun 21st 2019
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      yeah in the NBA there are hardly any white guys now
Jun 21st 2019
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           on draft day too
Jun 21st 2019
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Yes. Literally every college game he played.
Jun 20th 2019
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Enough praise to make Tim Tebow jealous!!!
Jun 20th 2019
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      lmfao
Jun 21st 2019
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NFL combine is like the slave trade!!!!
Jun 20th 2019
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Well not the combine. Same amount of folks in jail as were in the fields
Jun 20th 2019
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ive heard nothing but praise for him
Jun 20th 2019
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yeah I wanna hear his thoughts on the higgs boson too
Jun 20th 2019
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Espn right now talked about how he was a good teammate through the hype
Jun 20th 2019
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atillah wants them to discuss his calculus scores tho
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      Where can we read his English essays?
Jun 21st 2019
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           Even then..
Jun 21st 2019
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           what you thought of the iliad doesn't help you defend the pick and roll
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                I spit the water out my mouth
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GriftyMcgrift
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1. "here's an article on ESPN seemingly bout"
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Wed Jun-19-19 06:33 PM by GriftyMcgrift

  

          

Zion's skills as a writer


https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26406892/the-education-zion-williamson


i literally googled "zion williamson's character and intelligence"


i dont really watch basketball especially anything related to prospects so this is the only input i ahve



read the second half of the article not bad little background on him. kinda enjoyed it


not sure if its really applicable to your post though but seemed to hit the mark!

  

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2. "what are you talking about?"
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literally every piece of coverage I see on Zion is about how smart he is and how great of a person he is.

I don't know where you get your sports news.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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3. ""‘His heart is so big it could probably lift 1,000 pounds""
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‘His heart is so big it could probably lift 1,000 pounds’: Zion Williamson’s high school coach sings his praises

https://theathletic.com/1015020/2019/06/07/his-heart-is-so-big-it-could-probably-lift-1000-pounds-zion-williamsons-high-school-coach-sings-his-praises/

there'd be way more, but his family doesn't want people talking to the media.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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4. "ESPN and I was thinking the same thing. Dude is obviously well adjusted "
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It was a program about the draft, but literally the first time I heard dude spoken about on sports tv

Literally everything they said praised how great his physical ability is

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5. "because it's draft coverage."
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yes. they're going to talk about the things that directly apply to basketball.

all the reporting around zion the person, not just the player talks endlessly about his character and intelligence.

this is not the one to say that they're not talking about him as more than just his athletic ability

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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6. "Plus, if you were to focus on one players athletic gifts it would be Zio..."
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Dude is a unique physical talent. Coverage of the kid, though possibly over saturated, has been pretty fair and well rounded.


>all the reporting around zion the person, not just the player
>talks endlessly about his character and intelligence.
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>this is not the one to say that they're not talking about him
>as more than just his athletic ability

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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15. "How dare they talk about an athletes athleticism on draft day"
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17. "Still seems like they have a different language for some of these guys "
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Basketball IQ? C'mon man

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20. "Either you don’t watch a lot of espn/sports"
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or you are just bored.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Atillah Moor
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23. "I'm not emotionally invested in sports thus the disconnect"
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I guess they talk about players people would call white the same way IDK

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27. "Like I said... you must be bored"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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21. "yeah. basketball IQ."
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you know...knowing how to play basketball.

the thing they're being drafted to do.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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22. "Something a regular IQ wouldn't account for? Could just he's really smar..."
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And call it a day. I'll take y'all's word for it though. I guess there's no more othering in sports these days

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30. "He went to college for 6 months "
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and now he makes millions playing basketball.

The end.

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32. "muthafucka have you ever played basketball?"
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Fri Jun-21-19 03:36 PM by Rjcc

          

I'm not going to brag about standardized test scores, but let's just say I did ok on them, right?

That doesn't mean I can, while dribbling and running at full speed, identify the right person to pass to while on a 3-on-2 fast break.

and that's a relatively basic basketball play.

Yes it's different than regular IQ (which isn't so much a thing anyway, but at least the term in basketball is recognized for representing the ability to process and use information in a specific way).

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7. "I mean... he's the most exciting collegiate player in... how long?"
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His physical gifts are generationally great.

They're literally the entire reason he's such a hot topic. The coverage itself has been multifaceted though, and that's fairly common with NBA prospects.

Your overarching point is valid in a broader sense, but out of place with the coverage of this particular playee.

  

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25. "Cool thanks for the insight. He's definitely an exciting player"
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8. "Does anyone talk about how smart of a scientist Bruce Banner is?"
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First of all, there is tons of coverage about Zion's character on and off the court, but even if there weren't, is it WRONG to focus on his physical attributes? A lot of guys at D3 schools and 24 Hour Fitness gyms across the country are smart on and off the court. Not many of them are 280-pound guys who can leap over a single-story building and hammer down a dunk with the power of a thousand suns. The guy has a lot going for him in terms of smarts, character, etc, but let's face it, what makes him singular is what he can do athletically.

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18. "It's how they talk about it. From my one example anyway"
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9. "tons of times. hell im surprised we dont know his neighbors by now"
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theyve ran out of shit to talk about w/ him

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10. "While watching the playoffs I was just thinking how coverage has changed"
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I heard less talk about black players being natural and instinctive talents, the coded language I use to hear so much growing up and you hear more talk of players "smarts" on the court. Admittedly, I think the shift is due to more black commentators but it is certainly welcomed.






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28. "I feel you"
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Its good to hear Chauncey, Jalen, Grant Hill and even Reggie talk about
the game but I feel like
the NBA game is different, definitely more socially modern compared
to other leagues.

The college game on the other hand ... when it comes to the
Gonzaga's of the world its a different story. ESPN could use some
more Brothers commentating the college game to even that out

  

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31. "There just aren’t that many good white players to use those dumb ass....."
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cliche lines about their sports IQ. Hard work, passion, knowledge of the game, etc.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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33. "yeah in the NBA there are hardly any white guys now"
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and in terms of american white guys, sheeeeeit, there are probably more european baseball players than american white guys of note in the nba.

even the euros are a little lean. dirk retiring. zingis hurt. i guess luca doncic was throw into the mix. but even with the game diversifying internationally, the sport is blacker than ever. even the best international players right now are mostly black--giannis, jojo, siakam, etc.

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38. "on draft day too"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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11. "Yes. Literally every college game he played."
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They're leaning hard on his athleticism in draft coverage because he's a massive freak, one of the most singular athletes in over a decade in the sport. But a huge reason why he's pegged as a future superstar is because he plays exceptionally hard and exceptionally smart. Literally every superlative is used for this kid.

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13. "Enough praise to make Tim Tebow jealous!!! "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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34. "lmfao"
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12. "NFL combine is like the slave trade!!!! "
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19. "Well not the combine. Same amount of folks in jail as were in the fields"
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Prisoners are legal slaves

So called black people sent to jail disproportionately since emancipation

So there's that

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14. "ive heard nothing but praise for him"
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And yes, his physical ability is often talked about because he does some things on the court that don’t even look real. JJ Watt got the same praise for his “superhuman” athletic feats.

  

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16. "yeah I wanna hear his thoughts on the higgs boson too"
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24. "Espn right now talked about how he was a good teammate through the hype"
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talked about how he was a good teammate through the hype
would not do some covers without his teammates
never gives up
how hard he plays
iq
no ego
humble
makes teammates better

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26. "atillah wants them to discuss his calculus scores tho"
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>talked about how he was a good teammate through the hype
>would not do some covers without his teammates
>never gives up
>how hard he plays
>iq
>no ego
>humble
>makes teammates better
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29. "Where can we read his English essays? "
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I need to see his pen skills before I believe he is worthy of all this press

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35. "Even then.."
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I think you're being too kind on how/what they'll eventually and continuously judge him on.

"Did he 'MISTAKENLY' mark himself as 'Exempt' on his I-9? I thought he went to DUKE."

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36. "what you thought of the iliad doesn't help you defend the pick and roll"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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37. "I spit the water out my mouth"
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I tried to come up with a good one... you nailed it.

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