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SynsCei
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"For the OKProfessionals who hire"


  

          

How are the perceptions of someone coming into an interview well spoken, qualifications surpass expectations, delivers on all fronts, but is tatted on both arms/wrists/forearms?

First impressions are key, but would a hiring person/persons choose someone else who is perceived as more "clean cut" given everything else is equal?

I have a few upcoming interviews and can easily hide with a long sleeve dress shirt, but I'm unsure on how to handle if/when hired and I wear a short sleeve.

The jobs in question aren't exactly high end. They're intermediate positions where I will be doing clerical/data entry and at times, provide customer support.

The notion of not being hired b/c of misconceptions is absurd, but doesn't make it not real.

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It depends on the region/industry.
Jun 03rd 2019
1
you should be good
Jun 03rd 2019
2
Are they shitty looking tattoos?
Jun 03rd 2019
3
RE: Are they shitty looking tattoos?
Jun 03rd 2019
5
You should be fine. Look professional during the interview...
Jun 03rd 2019
4
Appreciate the feedback
Jun 03rd 2019
6
like this?
Jun 04th 2019
10
      BOOM!
Jun 07th 2019
16
I'm in tech, and I don't pay attention to that stuff at all
Jun 04th 2019
7
I'm old school in that all of my tats are hidden...
Jun 04th 2019
8
I work in public health (state government)
Jun 04th 2019
9
I think you should know the culture and proceed accordingly
Jun 04th 2019
11
One of the main reasons I left my last position
Jun 04th 2019
12
That's awful
Jun 04th 2019
13
Beyond awful..
Jun 04th 2019
15
      Fucked up really
Jun 07th 2019
17
that sucks
Jun 07th 2019
18
      Well said
Jun 07th 2019
19
I run a nonprofit afterschool program and i wouldn't care at all
Jun 04th 2019
14
I met a dude that got a corp job with a face tat almost 10 yrs ago
Jun 07th 2019
20
Not about to roll up like Tyson
Jun 07th 2019
21
Who realy wants to be the one to write up the guy with a face tat?
Jun 07th 2019
22
      I laughed the FUCK out loud at this notion
Jun 07th 2019
23
Welp
Jun 11th 2019
24
Lighting a candle for you my damie!
Jun 11th 2019
25
Much, much appreciated
Jun 11th 2019
26
awesome, good luck man!
Jun 12th 2019
27

Nopayne
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Mon Jun-03-19 04:41 PM

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1. "It depends on the region/industry."
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Nobody is going to give a shit in the West Coast tech scene for example.

If you're nervous you could probably cover up for the interview. That way you can check the place out and figure out if they are going to be petty enough to judge you over something like that.

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Nopayne

  

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mista k5
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2. "you should be good"
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like nopayne said, maybe cover up what you can for the interview. first impressions always matter. tattoos are more common now thought so it shouldnt really keep you from getting most jobs. you might run into one or two companies that arent with it but their loss.

  

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legsdiamond
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Mon Jun-03-19 08:35 PM

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3. "Are they shitty looking tattoos? "
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I think we are at a point where it doesn’t matter as long as you are qualified.

Now if it’s some stuffy shit where you are meeting stuffy people it could be a problem.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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SynsCei
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5. "RE: Are they shitty looking tattoos? "
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It's some calligraphy on the wrists (x2).

Mos' "Blasting holes in the night until she bled sunshine" on the inner left forearm.

Labyrinth on the inner right forearm

http://nextluxury.com/wp-content/uploads/labyrinth-tattoo-designs-for-men.jpg

Solar system in geometric shapes on lower left tricep/elbow.

Not shitty nor offensive. The lines are clean and the tats are nice (obviously I'm biased).

There are others, but even in a short sleeve, they're hidden.

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soulfunk
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4. "You should be fine. Look professional during the interview..."
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and cover up what you can. The only time it would matter is if you work in a very conservative industry AND regularly do client facing work. I personally work in the accounting industry leading a team of consultants who go to firms all over the country (which can be very conservative depending on location) and in our case we still haven’t had any qualms with hiring people with tats.

The only time I’ve heard something like that even brought up is when we are interviewing an internal candidate who has more than just tats and has visible body modifications (for example we might have tech staff from development who haven’t been customer facing and have facial body mods but are now applying for a consultant role.)

  

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SynsCei
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6. "Appreciate the feedback"
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Think I'm just letting my mom's old school mentality of "no one's gonna hire you with that on your arms."

(she literally cried when I strolled into her house with 5 of the 9 tats in the open)

But as been stated...new day, new dawn, new era.

I'll feel it out how conservative or reserved these people will be and call audibles from there if need be.

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10. "like this?"
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https://youtu.be/xczb7GeQwdA?t=11

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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SynsCei
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16. "BOOM!"
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Yes!!! As I mentioned in a previous thread, Progressive (among others) are killing the commercial scene with ones like these.

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flipnile
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Tue Jun-04-19 05:37 AM

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7. "I'm in tech, and I don't pay attention to that stuff at all"
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Only about what can they do, and how well would we would work together and get along (easy for me, since I'm an introvert). This field is a bit more liberal tho. Last person we hired has blue & green hair right now. A few dudes in other departments have sleeves, ride bicycles to work, have hipster beards, etc. A lot depends on the company culture too.

  

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Creole
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8. "I'm old school in that all of my tats are hidden..."
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Tue Jun-04-19 08:54 AM by Creole

  

          

with the exception of the Roman numerals I have on my left wrist.

I've got seven of them. I still believe the industry sort of dictates what's "acceptable." However, once hired and depending n the nature of interactions, I suggest to keep them hidden when you can.

My team meets with a bunch of execs, leaders, and senior management types. These folks are sort of traditional (mainly government right now). So, I keep the tats to myself is how I feel. In a more modern office though, I've been more easily swayed to allow my arm tats to show when wearing short sleeves.

All that to say... Just be cautious of the overall environment and make the best decision from there.

Edit:

"The jobs in question aren't exactly high end. They're intermediate positions where I will be doing clerical/data entry and at times, provide customer support."

Remember that you could encounter many different people in a role like this one. And those people could help take you to another level if and WHEN you make the right impression (RESULTS; not ass-kissing) per se. I'd still say to hide them until you get a lay of the land.

--- praying for peace, love, and power

  

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9. "I work in public health (state government)"
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Specifically in HIV/STI. In California.

As an interviewer, I’ve never penalized anyone for tattoos, style of dress, etc. And even if it came down to two highly qualified candidates—one clean-cut and another looking like Lil Xan—tattoos/style wouldn’t even come into consideration. Same thing with perceptions of someone already in the job.

We’re a unique bunch, tho. Strong LGBTQ presence. Communities of color represented. Educated.

But it’s still an office/biz atmosphere here. And nowadays tattoos/style don’t matter like they used to.

Good luck on your interviews!

Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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Case_One
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11. "I think you should know the culture and proceed accordingly "
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After obtaining the partnership/job do you (be you) in the most professional manner at all time and let your tats rock out whenever you feel.




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“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

  

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12. "One of the main reasons I left my last position"
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We were short staffed by two people, and had just let someone else go. Went through all the resumes and found a few candidates that looked perfect on paper (this was for a small call center). Brought 4 people in for interviews, and the first guy absolutely smashed it. I go to shake his hand and almost offer him the job on the spot, but his sleeve rose up a little bit and the center manager caught hint of some ink right above dudes wrist.

After I walked him out I go to the CL to say "okay, lets go ahead and get the letter together" he goes "did you see his arm? It must be a full sleeve or something...geez...too bad". I was like "you DO realize this is a call center, where no one is ever going to see him, right?" but the CL couldnt get past that. Thats bs...especially in that type of work environment.





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13. "That's awful"
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“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

  

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15. "Beyond awful.."
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Dude already understood that tats may or may not be acceptable..not like he came in showing them all off. I was livid.




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SynsCei
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17. "Fucked up really"
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But reading the responses here, and the various industries displayed, I'm confident they can look past the tattoos. Letting my resume/wordplay in the interview process, and eventual work, shine.

Thank you all.

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18. "that sucks"
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livelihood in the hands of an authority on what looks good....lol

  

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SynsCei
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19. "Well said"
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Damali
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14. "I run a nonprofit afterschool program and i wouldn't care at all"
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in fact, i only noticed recently that my Program Director, who I hired, has tattoos and i was indifferent

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20. "I met a dude that got a corp job with a face tat almost 10 yrs ago"
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He said he wore concealer for a little while after he got the job but then eventually revealed it and didn't hear a word. He was still new to the job so who knows how that all went long term.

Short of a face tat though, I think most companies are generally tolerant of discrete and/or concealable tattoos.

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SynsCei
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21. "Not about to roll up like Tyson"
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or Ed Helms, but I getcha.

Thanks for the input. This is why OKP can never die...i've lurked for years, but finally put a footprint in this bitch the past few months.

Whoever the moderators are or people that pull the strings, keep this ish going. There's more of us than you know.

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22. "Who realy wants to be the one to write up the guy with a face tat?"
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>but then eventually revealed it and didn't hear a word.

  

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SynsCei
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23. "I laughed the FUCK out loud at this notion"
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seriously...



"uh, Mr. Herna-"
"It's FERNANDEZ FOOL!"
"right... we're gonna have to, well based on your performance, although being OUTSTANDING, hasn't been up to par with-
"par??? BITCH you think i'm gonna putt putt my way through this bitch?? play your way through and end up HANDICAPPED!" *throws up signs...though NEVER ordering hot coffee or a danish*
"Yes sir, I'll go on break now. Would you like another?"
"Yeah, gimme your sandwich"

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SynsCei
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24. "Welp"
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Finished the interviews...

Was glad to see the 2-person panel BOTH had tats on their arms. One of them had this Deron Williams' esque "wtf" is that tat on her wrist/forearm.

The other had a dope solar system in a line running down the side of his forearm.

Felt I nailed the questions, so now I just gotta hope and pray.

*checks phone for missed calls*

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25. "Lighting a candle for you my damie!"
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SynsCei
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26. "Much, much appreciated"
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Thank you!

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mista k5
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27. "awesome, good luck man!"
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