7. "ummm lol the new display is $5-6K with the stand being another $1K" In response to Reply # 6
the key to happiness is not being rich; it's doing something arduous and creating something of value and then being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Mon Jun-03-19 03:27 PM
11. "Wtf does the display do? " In response to Reply # 7
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Work provides/reimburses me for this stuff but I think a $5k monitor would be a tough sell. I think the last one was like $1200 or something. The Mac Pro has always been crazy expensive though.
16. "The new monitor sounds AMAZING but..." In response to Reply # 6
1)It is expensive. BUT in Jan of 2005 I paid $3500 for the original 30" Cinema Display plus a video card capable of powering it. (ordered from https://www.expercom.com/ to avoid sales state tax.) With inflation it cost $4500.
2)I have no way to actually send content to it. Not sure how this will work for a PC at all.
3)I really think that in 2 years a competitor will deliver something almost like it for 3k - I'll buy that.
In the meantime if my Dell dies i'd probably go with the ASUS ProArt PA32UC 32" for a cheap-ish $1999.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
Look, I but TVs/monitors and like them when they can be as good looking as possible.
But $5k is over my range.
But i was a Trinitron guy in the 80s and 90s. (With the visible support wires.)
Then I got a Wega, and then an HD Wega. (Same support wires, and weird geometry problems.)
Bought the 23" Apple Cinema display and then the 30". (Not great contrast.)
I'm now using an LG OLED TV and love it. (Even with it's aggressive ABL issues.)
I'd seriously love to see the ASUS ProArt PQ22UC 21" OLED or their ASUS ProArt PA32UCX monitors too.
So a monitor that somehow can produce 1600 NITS flash, and 1000 NITS sustained, million to 1 contrast ratio, with DCI-P3 and true 10bit color (wish it was 12 bit!) is damn interesting to me.
Plus, I don't drink - so I got $5k more in my pocket than most people do at the end of the year. Seriously, I can save for it - it's not something I NEED but its something I'd like.
29. "I like the Mac Pro but eff that Display." In response to Reply # 0
A grand for a stand. The collective groan from the audience said it all. If you have to use a Mac workflow, the Mac Pro is wonderful. If you can use either workflow, go PC. It's really that simple.
35. "aight, I've kinda changed my thinking. but just a bit. " In response to Reply # 0
this is supposed to be squarely aimed at hollywood and pixar like situations
its above above the prosumer market, this is some pro shit for ultra fat gear budgets. this is not for instagram flexing. this is like a red camera. and if positioned as such, the pricing makes sense.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Wed Jun-05-19 01:19 PM
38. "That’s why I asked handle if he edited video" In response to Reply # 37
I can see if you work in the industries where the budget is huge and the specs are needed but on some “I like nice things” I think it’s a bit obeyed
Of course, it’s your money so spend it on what you like but shit man... that’s a lot of money for a monitor stand.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Thu Jun-06-19 06:57 AM
40. "Monitor seems expensive to me " In response to Reply # 39
I’m sure you can get one that’s just as good for half the price.
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41. "^^You can't get one for the same price much less less" In response to Reply # 40
Now, do we need a monitor capable of doing 1000nits with calibrated DCI-P3 color space "indefinitely?"
(I'm not including the high light output of LCD monitor designed for outdoor use - they don't have the same color or contrast range.)
Well if you are photo editing an HDR photo with extreme highlights you just might.
And if you're editing 4K video the 6k resolution is appreciated so you can edit on a single monitor.
If the $5999 included the stand and mount AND cable (not sure the max length of the cable, it's probably 6' MAX) it'd be expensive for consumers but pretty competitive to industry folks.
Note:I'm not in this class of user but I can appreciate the technical achievement and hope the competition can match it and then prices go down.
The stand being sold separately for $1k is lame as hell - AND that it doesn't not include the VESA mount in the box is an extra slap in the face to CONSUMER users - which WWDC and every tech blog who covered the event felt too.
I'd like to see a consumer level 4k OLED monitor (liek dell BRIEFLY had) at $2500 - I'd just buy that.
43. "This is a color reference monitor" In response to Reply # 40 Thu Jun-06-19 02:33 PM by hardware
which you would use for film
the next comparable model is Sony's BVM-X300 which is in the ballpark of $23,000
You can find OLED monitors for about the same price, but if Apple seriously made a model at the level of the X300, its a steal for anybody working on indie film
Blackmagic is vouching so they might actually have done it.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Thu Jun-06-19 03:42 PM
48. "Well if the next best thing is 23K I think it’s priced right. " In response to Reply # 43
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42. "Had Apple solely marketed those to industry folk, i'd be ok with it" In response to Reply # 35 Thu Jun-06-19 01:36 PM by Airbreed
But that's not what they're doing. They're marketing to average users AND industry folk alike. And seemingly, trying to convince average users that it's normal to spend $5-15k on a computer, monitor and accessories.
So Apple can go fuck themselves and the bridge they're selling.
44. "just because you can access the keynote" In response to Reply # 42
>But that's not what they're doing. They're marketing to >average users AND industry folk alike. And seemingly, trying >to convince average users that it's normal to spend $5-15k on >a computer, monitor and accessories. >
doesn't mean they're targeting you. you probably won't even see an ad for that monitor.
52. "i wouldn't go that far" In response to Reply # 50
its like when the Surface Studio came out and all the conversation was about price/specs, etc because they didnt jibe with gaming specs or microsoft excel specs as if those are the only two things people use computers for. its just an undercovered wing of tech so people don't really understand the demands are different
i don't really think the average person understands why the iPad pro and Apple Pencil are revolutionary or that PC for doing design or photoediting doesn't really REQUIRE a GPU at all
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