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BrooklynWHAT
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"yall watch When They See Us on Netflix (Central Park 5 miniseries)"


  

          

i watched episode 1 yesterday morning and i dont think i can bring myself to watch the rest of it. this shit weighs a ton.

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shit is heavy on so many levels.
Jun 03rd 2019
1
friend of mine on Twitter hit me up yesterday...
Jun 03rd 2019
2
i binged the first 3, then went to bed crying
Jun 03rd 2019
9
      shit...I feel compelled to watch it, though
Jun 03rd 2019
11
      Yep...watching Kory in the last couple of episodes
Jun 04th 2019
29
I went to high school with one of the accused.
Jun 03rd 2019
3
I feel like I owe it to these men to watch it
Jun 03rd 2019
4
Yeah...I don't have too many words
Jun 03rd 2019
5
the Fairstein lawyer lady ended up becoming a pretty famous author
Jun 03rd 2019
7
      Interesting career choice for Felicity
Jun 04th 2019
31
I definitely don't begrudge anybody not watching for their mental health...
Jun 03rd 2019
6
some are streaming it, then going to do something else
Jun 03rd 2019
8
ava tweeted that its been the highest view show since it premiered
Jun 16th 2019
69
I wept HARD on episode 2
Jun 03rd 2019
10
heartbreaking
Jun 03rd 2019
12
POVERTY PORN!
Jun 03rd 2019
13
I disagree.
Jun 03rd 2019
14
hoping this is sarcasm.
Jun 03rd 2019
15
I refuse to watch any more "entertainment" based on Black pain.
Jun 04th 2019
16
Man this is a must see. Pain produced action.
Jun 04th 2019
20
^^^^
Jun 04th 2019
21
it's not entertainment; it's education.
Jun 04th 2019
38
There's a book about it by Sarah Burns for those unwilling to watch
Jun 04th 2019
17
I was 14 when this happened
Jun 04th 2019
19
I was 12 and it hit me that we used to do the exact same thing
Jun 28th 2019
89
I can get behind a book. thanks.
Jun 04th 2019
23
eps 1 & 2 infuriated me, ep 4 almost made me cry....
Jun 04th 2019
18
oh they're coming for Fairstein
Jun 04th 2019
22
I'm kinda weirded out by that, tbh.
Jun 04th 2019
25
Has she spoken out about the show? I'd like to her her version.
Jun 04th 2019
27
Not about the show specifically, but she still insists they're guilty.
Jun 04th 2019
34
      Because 30 year old news isn't relevant until it's broadcast...
Jun 04th 2019
35
      Doesn't mean she was corrupt ? what ?
Jun 04th 2019
40
           Some people try so hard man...
Jun 05th 2019
47
           Takes no effort at all to be me.
Jun 05th 2019
51
           That’s obvious.
Jun 05th 2019
62
           True
Jun 05th 2019
55
           Just because she was wrong doesn't she was corrupt.
Jun 05th 2019
50
           Yes it does when it's 30 years later and she is doubling down
Jun 05th 2019
56
           Lmao. Dude is telling on himself
Jun 05th 2019
64
           Correct.
Jul 01st 2019
91
           and a fucked up timeline, damn near no evidence
Jun 05th 2019
63
           ^
Jul 01st 2019
90
Nah...the story needed actors
Jun 04th 2019
28
Reyes, the east side slasher, went on to rape 4 more women
Jun 04th 2019
44
thank you. this needs to be brought up EVERY TIME.
Jun 05th 2019
45
Fuck, man
Jun 16th 2019
67
Yuppppppppp
Jul 01st 2019
92
Fuck that evil ass bitch
Jun 05th 2019
46
East Side Slasher should be the follow up project
Jun 05th 2019
58
except as early as 2002... folk were ringing the alarm
Jun 16th 2019
70
Fairstein should be in prison...
Jun 05th 2019
57
cosign
Jun 16th 2019
71
good.
Jun 05th 2019
60
Finally finished watching this last night...
Jun 04th 2019
24
Watched it all in one night
Jun 04th 2019
26
I didn't understand the age aspect
Jun 04th 2019
30
A 16 y.o. could be questioned w/o parental consent...
Jun 04th 2019
32
Got it, thanks
Jun 04th 2019
33
It has to do with the "Wilding" I guess.
Jun 04th 2019
37
      Wilding wasn’t a thing...until after the Central Park 5
Jun 04th 2019
39
      I put "Wilding" in quotes but it's bullshit to say there weren't and sti...
Jun 05th 2019
53
      If you were from NYC you'd know there WERE gangs on the streets
Jun 27th 2019
87
      Watch it and then post...
Jun 05th 2019
48
I Ain't gon lie....I Feel like I need to,
Jun 04th 2019
36
Painful but I liked learning about the law
Jun 04th 2019
41
Episode 4 was gut wrenching
Jun 04th 2019
42
^^^^^^^and so masterfully done.
Jun 05th 2019
65
not in the mood to watch this right now
Jun 04th 2019
43
I'm old enough to remember the shit when it happened I'll pass
Jun 05th 2019
49
Nope. I like regular worms and y’all are baiting me with bloodworms
Jun 05th 2019
52
Huh?
Jun 05th 2019
61
yeah I am scared to watch it because it will be so overwhelming
Jun 26th 2019
82
folks should consider streaming without actually watching
Jun 05th 2019
54
Ava's best work b/w this shit would be even more OOC in 2019
Jun 05th 2019
59
I thought Ava was pretty good prior, but this is great.
Jun 09th 2019
66
Only through 1 episode...
Jun 16th 2019
68
planning on watching this week
Jun 16th 2019
72
finished Episode 3....
Jun 17th 2019
73
^^^ 16 shots
Jun 17th 2019
74
just finished watching the Oprah interview.... Antron broke my heart
Jun 17th 2019
75
Antron.....
Jun 18th 2019
76
my grandsons are watching it now...
Jun 19th 2019
77
i hate how much energy we put towards ‘look how they do us’
Jun 20th 2019
78
Finished 4 and 5 yesterday...
Jun 21st 2019
79
Starting part 2 after taking a week to process part 1...
Jun 25th 2019
80
How many more black men are wrongfully incarcerated?
Jun 26th 2019
81
RE: The Confession Tapes
Jun 26th 2019
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Yooooo the Confession Tapes....
Jun 27th 2019
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      RE: Yooooo the Confession Tapes....
Jun 27th 2019
88
more than 50% i bet
Jun 27th 2019
85
As per the Innoncence Project
Jun 27th 2019
86

PROMO
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1. "shit is heavy on so many levels."
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I'm white and it's kinda hard to get thru. If you are black and watching this I can totally understand not finishing, and I've seen on Twitter that some black people are choosing not to watch.

that shit destroyed those families on every level. I know they all got money from the city settlement but I dont know if the families have recovered. the money could do good but it can't replace the lost time, fix the pain, etc.

lots of good acting, especially from the kids (why do kid actors seem to kill it always).

  

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2. "friend of mine on Twitter hit me up yesterday..."
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like "I'm crying...actually crying, watching this". I'm gonna start it tonight, after the hockey game.

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9. "i binged the first 3, then went to bed crying"
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legit cried myself to sleep. I was distraught

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11. "shit...I feel compelled to watch it, though"
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bentagain
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29. "Yep...watching Kory in the last couple of episodes "
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Cried like a baby

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3. "I went to high school with one of the accused."
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I got halfway through the 1st episode and had to shut it off. I really don't think I can.

  

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4. "I feel like I owe it to these men to watch it"
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but it’s not going to be easy.

I made it they the first ep.

When Omar made his son lie to keep his job... smh.

Not even blaming these parents but it’s so frustrating to watch how easily they manipulated these kids.

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5. "Yeah...I don't have too many words"
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Didn't think I could get stuck...after seeing the documentary a couple of years ago

But this cuts deeper

Anybody on the law enforcement side go to jail for this?

I would imagine a public outcry for charges...if there are survivors

Just watched the Adnan docu series too

How the fuck do we allow convictions with no evidence?

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7. "the Fairstein lawyer lady ended up becoming a pretty famous author"
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she is a colossal piece of shit from everything i've seen and read about her.

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31. "Interesting career choice for Felicity "
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6. "I definitely don't begrudge anybody not watching for their mental health..."
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...but I do worry about what that means for the viewership numbers, and what low viewership numbers mean for future black projects.

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8. "some are streaming it, then going to do something else"
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so the numbers are still there

  

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69. "ava tweeted that its been the highest view show since it premiered"
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that said...
i dont know if i can watch it
i tried to have friends over for a dinner/movie type thing so we could collectively watch it
but some folk were like, nah... dont think i can do it so we ended up watching something else instead
i am determined to watch it.

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10. "I wept HARD on episode 2"
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It was horrible... HORRIBLE what these children went through, and what the poor woman went through.

I lost it during the scene when that detective was beating Korey around in the interrogation room. When we saw Korey on the floor, looking up at the cop in the chair with tears in his eyes, I began sobbing uncontrollably.

I lost it (cried out of anger) again when they played the old interview footage of 45 calling us "a black". Like "a black does xyz" or whatever. The fack?

  

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12. "heartbreaking"
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i couldn't watch it all in one sitting. started watching it on Friday and just finished it today. the kid who played Korey Wise (Jharrel Jerome) needs some type of award. he had me in tears.

  

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13. "POVERTY PORN!"
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14. "I disagree."
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Like there are definitely feels to go around, but it is more about an exposure of the system (of course) but a capturing of what jail does to a person. Episode 4 hit me hardest and is some of the best directing and film composition ever to convey the emotion it is trying to illicit. I'm in Manhattan all day with folx carrying dogs with shoes on. To see out perspective perfectly humanized was not masturbatory. It was legit artistic encapsulation. THIS is what the medium is for.

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15. "hoping this is sarcasm."
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it's not that at all.

  

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16. "I refuse to watch any more "entertainment" based on Black pain."
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20. "Man this is a must see. Pain produced action."
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21. "^^^^"
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im on hiatus

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38. "it's not entertainment; it's education."
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one of the Exonerated specifically asked @ava, via twitter, to tell their story, because people still don't know.

she obliged, and did their story more than justice

the interrogation scenes alone are teachable moments for every Black child. this series has IMMENSE value.

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17. "There's a book about it by Sarah Burns for those unwilling to watch"
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I definitely have no problem with anyone unwilling to watch. Personally, I don't need to visually see this stuff in order to cry or feel passionately enraged over it. I tend to feel it that deeply with the info alone, and I think it hints at desensitization (and pure racism, practiced and/or internalized) that so many people don't. My only "problem" is with those of us unwilling to be informed about the particulars of such things. Read a book, watch a documentary, something, because our lack of info and research into modern and historical events really hurts us politically and has us making silly decisions collectively. Too much trust in, and way too little skepticism about how this system operates pertaining to us.

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19. "I was 14 when this happened"
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and I'm tripping at how many people around my age seem shocked by these events.
This story was HUGE in Black communities back then.
This anti-black misandry that this case was built on/stirred up nation wide led to laws in my hometown in GA being changed a few months later. And of course the changes targeted Black boys, primarily. And ultimately multiple federal crime bills.

Propaganda is a powerful, powerful thing.

  

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89. "I was 12 and it hit me that we used to do the exact same thing"
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Goofing off with the crew, laughing, ranking on each other, talking to girls, being loud, BEING KIDS

We didn't have central park, we had Bayside and South Beach and every weekend was the same ritual

I remember when it happened and thinking damm that poor lady got fucked up but something wasn't right about saying the guys did it

Probably because I saw myself in them and doing something like that was not in me

  

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23. "I can get behind a book. thanks."
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18. "eps 1 & 2 infuriated me, ep 4 almost made me cry...."
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I thought I was ready after seeing the documentary, but I was wrong.
Bravo..... must watch for all parents and young black men.

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22. "oh they're coming for Fairstein"
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25. "I'm kinda weirded out by that, tbh."
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Like, they're coming for her based on... a movie. As true to life as the movie may be, it's still a dramatized, ficitionalized account.

I mean, fuck her, and I don't really care. But evidence of her misconduct should prolly be more than a moving Felicity Huffman performance.

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27. "Has she spoken out about the show? I'd like to her her version."
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34. "Not about the show specifically, but she still insists they're guilty."
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Doesn't mean she was corrupt. The rape victim still thinks they're guilty too.

To be clear... EYE think she's complicit in railroading those boys.

Just weird to me to come after her now because an actor played her mean on a tv show.

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35. "Because 30 year old news isn't relevant until it's broadcast..."
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>Just weird to me to come after her now because an actor played her mean on a tv show.

Not everyone heard or knew about this. Those folks, who are in the 40s, may not have tuned into national news when they were in their teens. I was a senior in high school when this happened. I watched the evening news with my dad and had an idea about this. I just happened to be in stationed in NJ when the trials were happening. So, I was more exposed to it.

For the most part, expecting people outside of that tri-state area to really know and/or care about this for all of that time is a pretty tough ask. Now that this exposure is happening, our kids are able to get an idea about this. My daughter was 3 when these dudes were beginning to be released from jail. She's now 20 and is very interested in the story and extremely upset by the railroading these young black and brown men experienced.

And in the end, everybody has to deal with the consequences of their actions. Right? That woman (and all those other people) did them kids dirty. So, if she gotta deal with a bit of hell right now, WHOOPTY DAMNED DOO!

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40. "Doesn't mean she was corrupt ? what ?"
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She sent teens to jail for something they didn't do, and she stands by it. That's corrupt


>Doesn't mean she was corrupt. The rape victim still thinks
>they're guilty too.
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>To be clear... EYE think she's complicit in railroading those
>boys.
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>Just weird to me to come after her now because an actor played
>her mean on a tv show.


She's saying DuVernay is the reason people are coming after her.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/william-harry-and-kate-deny-trump-what-he-wanted-most-a-photo-op?ref=scroll


She is accusing the documentary and feature-film director of orchestrating the public campaign against her.

“She’s behind it,” Fairstein said in a phone interview. “Her lies are behind it all.”

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47. "Some people try so hard man... "
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So hard.

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51. "Takes no effort at all to be me."
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62. "That’s obvious. "
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55. "True"
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Too hard

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50. "Just because she was wrong doesn't she was corrupt."
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Corruption would mean she KNEW she was wrong. WE choose to believe she was corrupt, because we know how they do.

'know how they do' isn't evidence of corruption, though.

She might genuinely believe them dudes did it. Just like the victim does.

All we have that says otherwise is our gut and Felicity Huffman.

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56. "Yes it does when it's 30 years later and she is doubling down"
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>Corruption would mean she KNEW she was wrong. WE choose to
>believe she was corrupt, because we know how they do.
>

If we know how they do then it's obvious they know how they do.


>'know how they do' isn't evidence of corruption, though.
>
>She might genuinely believe them dudes did it. Just like the
>victim does.
>
>All we have that says otherwise is our gut and Felicity
>Huffman.


The lack of evidence is evidence of corruption. If we can see it without police/prosecutor experience and training, it's no excuse that would explain or justify denying the obvious.

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64. "Lmao. Dude is telling on himself "
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Basically saying since they don’t view their move as corruption then it can’t be so

Gotdamn that ice is ICE COLD

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91. "Correct."
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>RE: Yes it does when it's 30 years later and she is doubling down
>>Corruption would mean she KNEW she was wrong. WE choose to
>>believe she was corrupt, because we know how they do.
>>
>
>If we know how they do then it's obvious they know how they
>do.
>
>
>>'know how they do' isn't evidence of corruption, though.
>>
>>She might genuinely believe them dudes did it. Just like the
>>victim does.
>>
>>All we have that says otherwise is our gut and Felicity
>>Huffman.
>
>
>The lack of evidence is evidence of corruption. If we can see
>it without police/prosecutor experience and training, it's no
>excuse that would explain or justify denying the obvious.

^^^ right. Everyone knows that is these were 5 white kids she'd have backed off at the lack of evidence/the evidence that the other dude did it. Especially considering the real culprit was a brown guy.

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63. "and a fucked up timeline, damn near no evidence"
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no semen

No matching DNA

The only thing she had was coerced statements that were against the law for any of the kids who were under 16... and one 16 year old who wasn’t even there but got caught up because he wants to support his friend.

FOH.

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90. "^"
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>RE: Doesn't mean she was corrupt ? what ?
>She sent teens to jail for something they didn't do, and she
>stands by it. That's corrupt
>
>
>>Doesn't mean she was corrupt. The rape victim still thinks
>>they're guilty too.
>>
>>To be clear... EYE think she's complicit in railroading
>those
>>boys.
>>
>>Just weird to me to come after her now because an actor
>played
>>her mean on a tv show.
>
>
>She's saying DuVernay is the reason people are coming after
>her.
>
>https://www.thedailybeast.com/william-harry-and-kate-deny-trump-what-he-wanted-most-a-photo-op?ref=scroll
>
>
>She is accusing the documentary and feature-film director of
>orchestrating the public campaign against her.
>
>“She’s behind it,” Fairstein said in a phone interview.
>“Her lies are behind it all.”
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28. "Nah...the story needed actors"
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Watching children go through the process

Is way more impactful than the documentary or reading a book, transcript etc...

The series gives emphasis to the destruction of the lives of these children, their families and communities

They were exonerated in 2002

Since then...Anybody on the law enforcement side brought to justice for the crimes they committed in this case?

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44. "Reyes, the east side slasher, went on to rape 4 more women "
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Murdering a mother of 3

If she didn’t force a narrative to fit the 5...those women wouldn’t be victims...and alive

Think about that

While they’re figuring scripts to fit their actors...dude was still out there raping and murdering women.

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45. "thank you. this needs to be brought up EVERY TIME."
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people actually suffered and died because of the misdeeds of the police and prosecution.

so, i don't really like "cancel culture" but they (Linda Fairstein and her cohorts) have some karma coming to them and if this is it, so be it. seems like they are getting off easy.

  

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67. "Fuck, man"
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46. "Fuck that evil ass bitch "
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It’s really no different than the RKelly stuff. We knew about it but a documentary put it back in the spotlight and all a sudden Chicago finds more videos and other shit.

The problem is so many shitty trials with corruption are forgotten after the fact because the world keeps turning.

I hope a shit load of movies and docs are made about innocent people being railroaded and lives are ruined

Fuck all those devil ass people who intentionally ruin lives for career advancement or for pleasure because they are racist POS.

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58. "East Side Slasher should be the follow up project"
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I think a project focusing on Reyes would really illustrate the incompetence of the NYPD

I read an article that put together a bit of a timeline

...apparently, they had Reyes positively ID'd by witnesses and the victim, in an attempted rape at Central Park...

on April 17th = 2 days before the Jogger attack

that's right people, the jogger attack never should have even happened.

From what I could put together from the timeline

Reyes attacked 9 women total

the jogger was number 5

...as I stated in another reply, he raped 4 more women after the jogger attack, murdering one of the victims...

so the April 17th attack would have been the 4th victim

i.e. there's a serial rapist with 4 victims as of April 17th

the case is in the Central Park precinct's house

The NYPD positively IDs Reyes, but fails to apprehend him

IMO, that's part of the motive for framing the 5

I definitely feel like it was a conscious, concerted effort by the NYPD and DA's office, to force the narrative on the Central Park 5, for public perception that the threat had been neutralized

...and they look like crime fighters, etc...

I would imagine, given Reyes' elocution, that there is plenty of evidence, recorded/written statements, etc...to put together a project that illustrates just HOW MUCH the NYPD and DA fucked up

I also wouldn't be surprised if there was actual evidence of the NYPD and DA quarterbacking this thing to play out the way it did for the exact reason I stated...public perception

They didn't just fail the 5

They failed the entire city and criminal justice system.

+1, I don't see how the timeline offered by the DA could even hold, given those circumstances

a serial rapist's most recent victim was attacked in Central Park just 2 days earlier

I would assume the NYPD was on heightened alert

The idea that a pack of 30 minority kids were just roaming through Central Park, randomly destroying and attacking everything in their path...

...for almost an hour...

AND, savagely raped a women, took a bath in bleach (no evidence of the attack on the suspects...remember, they were apprehended minutes after the attack)

Right under the NYPD's nose and a stone's throw from an attempted rape 2 days prior

Nah man, that shit is literally impossible

Surprised the lawyers didn't attack that timeline more aggressively

Shit does not hold.


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70. "except as early as 2002... folk were ringing the alarm"
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so no. they are coming after her because she might just finally get her due
im *hereforit*

https://injusticebusters.org/index.htm/Central_Park_Rapist_DA.htm

D.A. Linda Fairstein may have tried too hard
Ash-Blond Ambition
BELOW: Heavy consensual SM criminalized in NYC

by Rivka Gewirtz Little, November 20 - 26, 2002, Village Voice

Zealot. Crusader. Probably not labels that former chief of the Manhattan District Attorney's Sex Crimes Unit Linda Fairstein would use to describe herself. Her preferred image is more likely the jacket-copy version of her career used to tout her bestselling mystery paperbacks (usually accompanied by an ultra-blond, airbrushed photo), which describes Fairstein as the "famed" prosecutor best known for her involvement in trying the "Preppie Murder" and Central Park jogger cases. But that might not sell books these days.


Following a confession to the Central Park attack by imprisoned serial rapist Matias Reyes, whose DNA links him to the brutal crime, the jogger case seems to be cracking open to reveal prosecutorial failures. Worse, this appears to be the third flub of a major case from the glory days of a prosecutor who was once a Clinton administration candidate for United States Attorney General and who is still considered by some a contender to replace current district attorney Robert Morgenthau should he retire.


The first case to come apart was that of the former gastroenterologist Patrick Griffin, who was convicted in 1996 of oral sodomy on a sedated patient during a colonoscopy and sentenced to up to 10 years in prison. His conviction was overturned in 1998 and he was acquitted in retrial in 2000 after judges ruled that crucial evidence was withheld. After a retrial, he was acquitted, but not before losing his medical license, which he has yet to regain.


Then came Oliver Jovanovic, the Columbia University microbiology Ph.D. candidate, dubbed the "cybersex" attacker, who was convicted and sentenced to 15 years to life in prison for kidnapping and sexually torturing a Barnard undergraduate. After he served nearly two years of his prison term, an appeals court overturned his conviction in 1999, again saying that crucial evidence was withheld during the trial that could have shown Jovanovic and his accuser had a consensual sadomasochistic relationship, or that she simply fabricated the story. Morgenthau dismissed the case before a pending retrial in 2001.


As for the five men who were convicted in the Central Park case as teens and literally grew up in jail, Morgenthau says he may vacate the charges because evidence of a previous rape by Reyes two days before the jogger attack should have been presented in court. But the accused are holding out for the results of a reinvestigation now being conducted by his office, in hopes that a declaration of innocence will wipe their names from all public records.

The men in all of these cases, who were convicted despite the existence of exculpatory evidence, still see Fairstein and her minions as either zealots or headline seekers, pursuing verdicts that would appease the outraged public. Jovanovic thinks Fairstein was also making literary hay from her cases.

"Each time one of these cases occurred, her books probably went flying off the shelves," says Jovanovic. "She used what happened in that unit to make money, and that is wrong." After all, her Alexandra Cooper mystery series is about a hard-nosed woman prosecutor. While reviews never accuse her of great writing, and some complain of the "heavy-handed" use of shoptalk, she earned, according to The New York Times, $2.5 million in sales by 1999. In the period between the 1989 jogger case and the 1998 cybersex trial, Fairstein produced two books, both of which were bestsellers.

Fouling cases, though, is still not part of her reputation. Even some former colleagues who admit a personal distaste for her tendency to flaunt her wealth say she is a skilled prosecutor with an eye for the truth. She has earned her stripes, having been one of seven women to join a staff of 175 prosecutors in 1972 after being told by former D.A. Frank Hogan that the job was too "tawdry" for females. For nearly 30 years as an assistant district attorney Fairstein taught rough-and-tumble cops and prosecutors to treat sex crime victims with respect, and she advocated for rape shield laws prohibiting grilling women about their sex lives in court. Oddly enough, before the Jovanovic and Griffin cases, Fairstein even took on the very politically incorrect position of criticizing false accusers-which she describes in depth in her nonfiction opus, Sexual Violence.

"The question one might ask," says one attorney who asked not to be named, "is how she turned megalomaniac" after her younger years when she had "an unyielding zest for prosecution." According to several people close to the case, it was Fairstein's ego and her quest for fame that drove her to elbow Assistant District Attorney Nancy Ryan out of the Central Park case. Ryan had originally been assigned the case because the jogger was expected to die, but Fairstein pushed the sex crime angle of the case and her division got it. Ryan is also considered a likely candidate for the D.A.'s seat. "Prosecutors fight for the big cases, that's what they do," says another lawyer, shrugging off the competition between the two women. Other critics have said Fairstein was overly zealous about the Central Park case to save face after personally prosecuting the preppie murder case, which ended in a deadlocked jury followed by a plea-bargained manslaughter charge.

While Fairstein appears to have been seeking power, she has plenty already. In the D.A.'s office, she moved into an important role quickly, and continued to build on that over the years. She summers on Martha's Vineyard, where she has hobnobbed with the Clintons. She is married to the extremely wealthy and influential Justin N. Feldman, a major player in the Democratic Party who sits on the character and fitness committee of the New York Supreme Court Appellate Division. Even one of the two attorneys appointed recently by the police department to independently review the Central Park case is a junior partner at Kronish Lieb Weiner & Hellman, where Feldman is a senior partner.

But those who accuse Fairstein of zealotry describe a passion that can go beyond maneuvering for power.

"She came bounding at me in the police station like some Joan of Arc crusader type," recalls Sharonne Salaam of the first time she encountered Fairstein, at midnight in the police precinct where her son was being held for the Central Park jogger attack. "I had never seen anything like it."


Fairstein believed she had her perps and, says Salaam, was willing to do anything necessary to prove it. Fairstein gruffly dismissed Yusef Salaam's aunt and threatened his mentor, Brooklyn federal prosecutor David Nocenti, in refusing to let them see the teen while he was being interrogated. According to both Sharonne Salaam and Timothy Sullivan's book on the case, Unequal Verdicts, Fairstein then called her husband to demand the home number of Nocenti's then boss, Brooklyn U.S. Attorney Andrew Maloney, so she could get the young attorney fired. According to court records, Fairstein even tried to block Sharonne Salaam from interrupting the interrogation, despite Sharonne's claims that Yusef was 15 and too young to be questioned without an adult. "They really wanted us to leave so they could complete their process," says Salaam. "At one point, I was hyperventilating and I asked for water and Fairstein said there was just no water in the building. It was very strange."

Fairstein's behavior seemed so outrageous that in the 1993 appeals decision on Salaam's case then appellate court judge Vito Titone specifically named her in his dissenting opinion and blasted the entire interrogation process. He recently told Newsday, "I was concerned about a criminal justice system that would tolerate the conduct of the prosecutor, Linda Fairstein, who deliberately engineered the 15-year-old's confession. . . Fairstein wanted to make a name. She didn't care. She wasn't a human."


Jovanovic had his own strange journey with Sex Crimes Unit prosecutors. He was kicked into a bizarre reality when Fairstein appeared at his arraignment, calling for bail to be set at $500,000, likening him to Ted Bundy and invoking images of serial killer and cannibal Jeffrey Dahmer, saying Jovanovic had material about the murderer in his home. That evidence was never produced. Even stranger, Fairstein allegedly threatened to arrest Jovanovic's mother if she appeared at the arraignment, accusing her of destroying evidence. "I was half in shock during all of this," says Jovanovic, who believes Fairstein threatened his mother so that it would seem Jovanovic had no supporters at his arraignment.

The prosecutors' quest for convictions never wavered, even when there was no clear forensic evidence to prove any of these crimes. In the Central Park case, prosecutors never could link any of the five accused to DNA samples found at the scene. There was no physical evidence linking Jovanovic to his crime, and, in fact, while his accuser claimed she had been brutally attacked and left bleeding, there were only a few fading bruises later found. "If she couldn't tell this was a false report, well, I am just shocked," says former New York City sex crimes detective John Baeza, who worked in defense of Jovanovic after leaving the force. Baeza said he had previously known Fairstein to be a "powerful woman" with "great judgment."

Griffin, the former head of internal medicine at St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital, who is now a researcher for a New Jersey pharmaceutical firm, wouldn't comment for this story, except to agree his ordeal was horrendous. But news accounts confirm that prosecutors were determined to prove his case despite an unusually large number of patients, physicians, and friends coming forth in his defense. They overlooked that the accuser had been angry with Griffin for refusing to testify for her in a civil landlord-tenant case. Prosecutors did, however, choose to take into evidence a tape secretly recorded by Griffin's accuser, who attempted to snag a confession. Prosecutors also advertised an 800 number on the radio and in the New York Post for information about Griffin.

Fairstein would not return calls to the Voice and has commented little since Reyes confessed except to say there was not a rush to judgment in the Central Park case. Calls to a number of former prosecutors were not returned, and the D.A.'s office refused comment.

Though Fairstein retired from the D.A.'s office last spring, many attorneys agree that she still has devotees both in that office and among detectives. And according to some close to the case, the rivalry between her and Ryan, who is said to believe the Central Park Five were not linked to the crime, still exists.

But there is the possibility that Fairstein's power is beginning to diminish. She recently pressured producers at ABC's Primetime not to run a story featuring interviews with a few of the Central Park Five. ABC not only ran that show, but aired a clip of it on Good Morning America, which is co-anchored by Diane Sawyer, a longtime Fairstein friend who wrote praise for her first book. Of course, her staying power remains to be seen in February, when the D.A.'s office is scheduled to release its final decision on the Central Park case.

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57. "Fairstein should be in prison..."
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..along with everyone else that conspired against the Central Park Five.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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71. "cosign"
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60. "good."
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don't stop there, either

  

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24. "Finally finished watching this last night..."
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..difficult, to say the least.

The impact of this case was felt in every hood across the U. S.

*back with more later.



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26. "Watched it all in one night"
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I think it was parts of episode 2 or 3 which seemed like a totally different show (I think Kevin's sister's meet cute story), but then episode 4 really brought it home.. But I get it, these kids needed hope, laughter, and family..

Korey Wise.. Man.. That kid/man is like what Michael K Williams said on Sway..a straight up warrior.

I cried when he got to prison, and I balled when he got out.

  

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30. "I didn't understand the age aspect "
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When they initially had all the kids rounded up

Why were the cops only interested in 16y.o.s?

and then they put the weight on Korey...who was the youngest out of the 5

I didn't understand that...?

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32. "A 16 y.o. could be questioned w/o parental consent..."
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>RE: I didn't understand the age aspect
>When they initially had all the kids rounded up
>
>Why were the cops only interested in 16y.o.s?
>
>and then they put the weight on Korey...who was the youngest
>out of the 5
>
>I didn't understand that...?

Korey was the oldest.

Kevin and Raymond were the youngest (14).

From Wiki:
"The five juveniles were interviewed for hours. Santana, McCray, and Richardson all made video statements in the presence of their respective parents or guardians. Wise made a number of statements on his own, in accordance with the law. Salaam told the police he was 15 years old but showed them identification that stated he was 16. If a suspect had reached 16 years of age, his parents or guardians no longer had a right to accompany him during police questioning, or to refuse to permit him to answer any questions. After Salaam's mother arrived, the police stopped the questioning, but Salaam's admissions were admitted into testimony."

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37. "It has to do with the "Wilding" I guess. "
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I haven't seen the serious but I am guessing what you are referring to the kids they associated with the the Wilding that they rounded up. That is, kids in that age range would go through the park in groups and just fuck up people for no reason.

A friends son caught a bottle to the head and got really fucked up because of it.


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39. "Wilding wasn’t a thing...until after the Central Park 5"
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You should watch it

Think about how powerful the media is

Wilding was just a term used in the initial report

The prosecution made it a thing

...and you still think packs of teens roaming the city on destructive rampages was a trend...

It wasn’t.

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53. "I put "Wilding" in quotes but it's bullshit to say there weren't and sti..."
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occassionally groups of kids who get together and roam around with the intent of fucking up random people. Like I said I had a friend who son was the victim of it. And you read stories about it occasionally (that and a bunch of kids mobbing a random store).

Now whether it's a big trend like the press made it out to be is a different story but don't say it doesn't happen.



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87. "If you were from NYC you'd know there WERE gangs on the streets"
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>...and you still think packs of teens roaming the city on
>destructive rampages was a trend...
>
>It wasn’t.

During the late 80's early 90's a random group of kids might chase you down and beat you up for nothing. If you had a walkman, chain, nice jacket, nice sneakers, they would take that. Watching out for gangs was a constant in my youth, it's damn near impossible to sneak up on me because of it. I considered myself lucky because I was from Harlem, box cutters weren't as big of a thing out here as they were in BK. My older brother brought a Crocodile Dundee sized knife to Brooklyn Tech to protect himself. Some of my friends would come back from summer break with buck-fifty scars.

As a teenager, I was robbed at gunpoint by ANOTHER TEENAGER.

Where did that happen?

CENTRAL PARK.

This doesn't exonerate the cops in the least bit. This didn't make it ok for the cops to harass my friends, or look for reasons to lock them up. But please, know what you're talking about. It was the term "wilding" that was pulled out of thin air. Tons of unreported assaults were occurring.

  

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48. "Watch it and then post... "
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cause this ain’t it fam.

Dude cleared it up, it was for questioning.

I thought it was because they could be tried as adults.

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36. "I Ain't gon lie....I Feel like I need to, "
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I just can't....not in this climate

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41. "Painful but I liked learning about the law"
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I think it is difficult but important to learn how our legal system operates when it comes to black people.

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42. "Episode 4 was gut wrenching "
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65. "^^^^^^^and so masterfully done. "
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Like I see people not wanting to watch, as if it exploits pain. But it doesn't, it humanizes it. The prison experience is broken. It makes me want to reach out and give lines to inmates period. As a community we could build that level of support and help it be rehabilitative, AND provide opportunities for them when they get out. THAT should be the motive and the lesson for and from watching.

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43. "not in the mood to watch this right now"
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watched half of the first episode, i'll revisit when i'm more calm

  

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49. "I'm old enough to remember the shit when it happened I'll pass"
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52. "Nope. I like regular worms and y’all are baiting me with bloodworms"
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I’ll just keep swimming people.

  

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82. "yeah I am scared to watch it because it will be so overwhelming "
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I will - just not now

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54. "folks should consider streaming without actually watching"
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if you don't want to actually re live that horror but still want to support these stories being told.

  

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59. "Ava's best work b/w this shit would be even more OOC in 2019"
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considering the climate in which we live and where one of the chief antagonists of the original story is currently sitting (Dolt 45)

  

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66. "I thought Ava was pretty good prior, but this is great."
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I can't front, I didn't "want" to watch. But I'm glad I did. It was a struggle to get through.

Phenomenal performances from everybody involved too.

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68. "Only through 1 episode..."
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the Korey Wise part really hurt.

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72. "planning on watching this week"
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when i find time
i just need to prepare myself
plus this current season of amerikkka and the world doesn't help in that
but i really want to be informed. i am sure i will cry through most of it

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73. "finished Episode 3...."
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the kid who plays Kory Wise is a beast, man...also, really like the guy who plays adult Raymond. Hurt me that he went back in. Shouts to John L., as his pops, too.

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74. "^^^ 16 shots "
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Don’t have showtime, so I haven’t seen it yet

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt10331828/

But the reviews describe alarming similarities

Should give some insight into why these projects are important.

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75. "just finished watching the Oprah interview.... Antron broke my heart"
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I’m on public transportation and I shed a tear in public when that brother spoke about his pain

I can’t even talk about Korey.... they said they couldn’t show everything he went through cuz it was too much.....

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man that was rough.... I had hoped he had been able to some what move on since he has his own family now, but my man seems BROKEN. He def needs therapy but to do that he would have to open up and honestly talk about what happened to him in prison, and I dont think he wants to relive it.


>I can’t even talk about Korey....

Man..... I dont even want to think about what he really went through. I feel so bad for all these brothers...

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77. "my grandsons are watching it now..."
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11 and 12 yrs old. I felt it was important for them to see it so we can discuss it.


  

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78. "i hate how much energy we put towards ‘look how they do us’"
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we get it
and they still dont care
no matter how many stories we tell

i want us to put that same energy toward solutions to avoid them altogether

  

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79. "Finished 4 and 5 yesterday..."
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there were a couple of times during part 4, I wanted to bail...too tough to watch. I'm glad I didn't though. I kept it together through the end...but, the montage where they showed what each guy was doing and then showed the real person...combined with whatever that song was...I balled.

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80. "Starting part 2 after taking a week to process part 1..."
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it’s tough and angering

  

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81. "How many more black men are wrongfully incarcerated?"
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Originally I was one of those who didn’t want to watch this because I knew the story and I knew it would just anger me some more.

But now I’m even more angered at the thought of how many less famous cases are out there where people were wrongfully prosecuted?

Some by some of these same prosecutors and police officers. Every case they were ever involved with needs to be looked at.

This documentary highlights a lot of the flaws in the justice system that still exist to this day.

  

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83. "RE: The Confession Tapes"
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https://www.netflix.com/title/80161702

This popped up in my suggested cue...but I'm not ready to start binging it yet

Compounded by the innocence project

https://www.innocenceproject.org/

I expect the number is quite high

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84. "Yooooo the Confession Tapes...."
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Okay first of all its a great series. (one interesting thing is in most of the eps the people are clearly innocent. But in one or two you're not really sure.) Clearly though it makes you wonder how many innocent ppl are pressured to confess.

Also in one ep they highlight a once semi-famous, but now infamous CSI investigator who gets exposed for planting evidence and it made me wonder how many other cases he did this on and how many other people in his line of work do this that we never hear of.

CRAZY....SMH

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88. "RE: Yooooo the Confession Tapes...."
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>Also in one ep they highlight a once semi-famous, but now
>infamous CSI investigator who gets exposed for planting
>evidence and it made me wonder how many other cases he did
>this on and how many other people in his line of work do this
>that we never hear of.

yeah I actually used to date a female police officer, let's just say I'm not surprised anytime they get CAUGHT doing dirt

  

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85. "more than 50% i bet"
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86. "As per the Innoncence Project"
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of the 362 people proved innocent by DNA, 222 (61%) of them are black. that's just the ones they could prove. there's probably countless more.

  

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