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seasoned vet
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"Ilhan Omar, Trump, and 9/11..."


  

          

Does anyone else remember Trump making the same mistake months ago while talking about 9/11 to the press?

I could of sworn he referenced 9/11 in a way that many felt minimized and disrespected the memory.

i must say, googling for news articles using the words “Trump” + “disrespectful” produces a laughably embarrassing amount of content to try and search through

i found the fist pump and the 7/11 gaff, but im almost certain a few months ago Trump made a remark about 9/11 almost identical to what Omar said

im tired of looking for it though

on another note she shouldnt of said that shit

  

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Counter-point: the 18 hijackers who carried out 9/11 were just 'some guy...
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On another note, there's nothing she can say that will make bigots happy
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for sure, i also avoid landmines if i can
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      Outside of never talking/renouncing her faith
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           i agreed with you already, now you’re being obtuse
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                No, I'm legit not trying to be hostile
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                so you acknowledge there were death threats before this.
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you shouldnt fall for selectively edited bad faith right wing attacks.
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fall for? by looking up when Trump did it too? sure buddy.
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your last line makes clear that trump got the exact outcome he won.
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Did you really need this incident to ride for her?
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What'd she say?
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What did she say? Water is wet? The sky is blue?
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no one cares when these cats criticize Israel
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On another note she said absolutely nothing wrong
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sounds good dont it?
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fuck that. she was right to say it.
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mind_grapes
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Tue Apr-16-19 12:27 PM

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1. "Counter-point: the 18 hijackers who carried out 9/11 were just 'some guy..."
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and they made the lives of millions of Muslims in the Western world worse because of it. To deny her this point is to imply that all Muslims in the world need to constantly distinguish themselves from those "other" muslims who are clearly incompatible with western civ

its also using a form of American civic religion to policy who is allowed to be American

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_civil_religion

She is a black woman in a hijab. these wypo will find something she says and then twist to rile up their base. and if she dies then its all oopsie daisy...we should really do something about mental health

  

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Marauder21
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Tue Apr-16-19 12:44 PM

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2. "On another note, there's nothing she can say that will make bigots happy"
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Because her existing is their problem.

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Tue Apr-16-19 01:03 PM

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3. "for sure, i also avoid landmines if i can"
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6. "Outside of never talking/renouncing her faith"
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How does she avoid these?

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7. "i agreed with you already, now you’re being obtuse"
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as we BOTH said, her existence alone bothers them.

the extra security and ramped up death threats came after she said what she said

  

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Marauder21
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8. "No, I'm legit not trying to be hostile"
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I genuinely want to know if you think she could avoid this. Because I used to think "well, she's not wrong, but if only she phrased things differently, it could maybe . . ."

But it's clear (in my opinion) that people who only operate with bad faith towards her because they believe she's wrong. Not that her positions are wrong or what she wants to do is wrong, that SHE as a human being is inherently bad.

I don't see how it's avoidable for her.

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Reeq
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13. "so you acknowledge there were death threats before this."
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>the extra security and ramped up death threats came after she
>said what she said

putting the onus on marginalized folks not to step on a 'landmine' and make themselves more killable among racists is a pretty creative take.

  

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Reeq
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4. "you shouldnt fall for selectively edited bad faith right wing attacks."
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>on another note she shouldnt of said that shit

what exactly did she say wrong?

  

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16. "fall for? by looking up when Trump did it too? sure buddy."
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5. "your last line makes clear that trump got the exact outcome he won. "
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It really makes it all worth it for him.

Before this "incident" I thought she wasn't doing a great job of focusing on what her constituents would want her to focus on but now I am going to ride for her.

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Tue Apr-16-19 01:34 PM

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11. "Did you really need this incident to ride for her? "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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bentagain
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9. "What'd she say?"
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Trumpster said Muslims were celebrating from rooftops on 911

...unless there's a more recent gaffe...?

I'll just assume whatever Rep Omar said...is nowhere close to equivalent

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legsdiamond
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10. "What did she say? Water is wet? The sky is blue?"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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j.
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12. "no one cares when these cats criticize Israel"
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https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/anti-semitism-501187.jpg

but when she does it, it's a shit storm of biblical proportions
she has tangible power and position
she's breaking one of the last taboos in American politics
and it makes repugs souls burn slow

  

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GOMEZ
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Tue Apr-16-19 01:55 PM

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14. "On another note she said absolutely nothing wrong"
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and we shouldn't feel the need to condemn or tsk tsk about that shit, just because 'some people' are being disingenuous fucks.


>on another note she shouldnt of said that shit


In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

  

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15. "sounds good dont it?"
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sweeneykovar
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17. "fuck that. she was right to say it. "
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she didn't disrespect shit. she remains respectful even when she's telling harsh truths. GTFOH.

  

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