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Mynoriti
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"Nortre Dame Cathedral.. damn"


  

          

never been to Paris but tragic to see something that historic/iconic burn

  

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apparently they saved all of the artwork and artifacts
Apr 15th 2019
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it's tragic. but the silver lining is we got to see the
Apr 15th 2019
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that guy's such a weirdo
Apr 15th 2019
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This motherfucker.
Apr 15th 2019
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reminds me of him talking about why cant we do a sneak attack on isis?
Apr 16th 2019
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Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Apr 15th 2019
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A kind rebuttal
Apr 15th 2019
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Alexa, play Burn by Mobb Deep
Apr 15th 2019
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thoughts
Apr 16th 2019
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They'll rebuild the parts that burned
Apr 15th 2019
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Waiting to see what them crackers at Charlie Hebdo post
Apr 15th 2019
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lowkey
Apr 15th 2019
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the cartoon they posted after the Italian earthquake was yuck.
Apr 15th 2019
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supposedly some on The_Donald already blaming 'asians' and
Apr 16th 2019
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Notre Dame is a warning to Europe: don’t take what you value for grant...
Apr 16th 2019
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Venice is close to losing a lot of valuable history as well
Apr 16th 2019
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      Can anything realistic be done about Venice?
Apr 16th 2019
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           The MOSE Project or Project Moses started in the early 2000s
Apr 17th 2019
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The culture inspired by Notre Dame – from Matisse to the Muppets
Apr 16th 2019
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black churches burn everyday b
Apr 17th 2019
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makaveli
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1. "apparently they saved all of the artwork and artifacts"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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T Reynolds
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2. "it's tragic. but the silver lining is we got to see the"
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sumptuous, bizarre mind of Trump tweet some helpful thoughts

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1117844987293487104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  

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Mynoriti
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4. "that guy's such a weirdo"
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prolly gonna start talking about raking again

  

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stravinskian
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Mon Apr-15-19 05:49 PM

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6. "This motherfucker."
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He probably thought that was an idea that nobody else had had. Like if Macron had just answered his phone he would have saved the day.

  

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Mynoriti
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12. "reminds me of him talking about why cant we do a sneak attack on isis?"
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He was pushing it like it was some brilliant strategy the generals couldn't figure out

  

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makaveli
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7. "Narcissistic Personality Disorder "
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He’s not well. Also, he’s a big, huge asshole.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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MEAT
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11. "A kind rebuttal"
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https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/1117928933155057671

"Hundreds of firemen of the Paris Fire Brigade are doing everything they can to bring the terrible #NotreDame fire under control. All means are being used, except for water-bombing aircrafts which, if used, could lead to the collapse of the entire structure of the cathedral."

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“There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus

  

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3. "Alexa, play Burn by Mobb Deep"
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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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Crash Bandacoot
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13. "thoughts"
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handle
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5. "They'll rebuild the parts that burned"
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Bad news:it won't be centuries old.

Honest good news: They'll probably make a super dope documentary about the fire and restoration.

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8. "Waiting to see what them crackers at Charlie Hebdo post"
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One Hundred.

  

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9. "lowkey"
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IG: amadu_me

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Castro
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10. "the cartoon they posted after the Italian earthquake was yuck."
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One Hundred.

  

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T Reynolds
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14. "supposedly some on The_Donald already blaming 'asians' and"
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'muslims' hired by the Paris fire department for the lack of urgent response

  

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naame
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15. "Notre Dame is a warning to Europe: don’t take what you value for grant..."
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Notre Dame is a warning to Europe: don’t take what you value for granted

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/16/notre-dame-warning-europe-value-cathedral-flames
It’s hard to describe the sorrow of seeing Notre Dame in flames. It felt like watching a precious family jewel being destroyed before our eyes. But what was even more painful was to realise the significance of it all: we were watching something burn that we thought would never burn.


Notre Dame assessed for structural damage after fire extinguished
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To all Parisians and Europeans, Notre Dame is simply a wonder. There it stands, the subject of pride and admiration. Each time we passed by, even if we’d seen it a thousand times, we’d always at least glance at it, almost as if we had to. And yet we took that wonder for granted. Not that it became invisible or that we stopped noticing it, but because it simply stood there as it should: like the pyramids, Greek theatres or the temples of ancient Rome. It was a wonder of the world, an eternal monument that existed well before us and would long outlive us too.

The sorrow becomes even deeper when you realise that the catastrophe of Notre Dame represents so perfectly the condition of contemporary Europeans: people condemned to live among wonders, taking them for granted, ignorant of the fact that they may disappear– then suddenly finding themselves in a situation they’d never envisioned.

After the fire started, a few verses by the 19th-century French poet Gérard de Nerval began circulating on Twitter: “Notre Dame est bien vieille: on la verra peut-être/Enterrer cependant Paris qu’elle a vu naître.” (Notre Dame is very old: we may see her/ Bury, however, Paris, which she saw born.) The poem ends with the vision of tourists, a thousand years from now, contemplating the ruins of the cathedral. Notre Dame could be destroyed only by time, many, many years after we are long gone. We could not imagine being witnesses to such a catastrophe. Yet now we are.

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Notre Dame fire: Paris laments as Emmanuel Macron commits to rebuilding cathedral – video
The question that lies before us now is reconstruction. We have to rebuild. Emmanuel Macron has already vowed to repair Notre Dame, announcing the launch of a national donation campaign. But with that question comes another, deeper, one: how do you reconstruct something everyone thought existed separate from time itself?

Even those who have lived in Paris for many years felt humbled each time they passed by the facade, not only because of the massive stained glass windows, or the many carvings shadowing the square outside, but because, despite the hundreds of tourists always gathered at the entrance, there was a special, intimate silence about the place. Many have a very personal memory linked to Notre Dame, whether it is a cold evening silently staring at the cathedral to take some time back from the trials and tribulations of daily life, or the muted tones of a psalm heard from a chapel inside.

The cathedral has always been a part of our daily lives, a presence, a legacy that we share whatever our beliefs. For Europeans, the burning of Notre Dame comes with a wider warning: don’t take the wonders you enjoy for granted. Care for them more, because they may not be with you for ever. Europeans too often blindly navigate through a landscape of wonder, which is allowed to become a banal part of daily life. If they continue not to care for it, they may soon realise that it has already gone up in flames. To rebuild this wonder, to rescue it from being taken for granted once more, Europeans will need more than money and will: they will need a profound, thorough consideration of what they have in common, and what it means to be a European.

• Gilles Gressani is president of Groupe d’études géopolitiques. Mathéo Malik is editor-in-chief of Le GrandContinent
America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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T Reynolds
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17. "Venice is close to losing a lot of valuable history as well"
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18. "Can anything realistic be done about Venice?"
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Rising sea levels + sinking buildings (wood pile foundations) seems like it spells doom, short of completely damming the lagoon and building a bunch of pumps.

If nothing can be done, do you leave it there, or try to dismantle the buildings and move them elsewhere?

  

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T Reynolds
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20. "The MOSE Project or Project Moses started in the early 2000s"
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A lot of the money has been misappropriated over time and construction hasn't been as quick and effective as it could have been

  

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16. "The culture inspired by Notre Dame – from Matisse to the Muppets"
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The only solace one might take from the horrific fire is that it is merely the latest chapter in a long and violent history of destruction and repair. The cathedral was heavily damaged by rioting Huguenots in 16th-century, remodelled by successive kings and roundly plundered during the French Revolution, when the 28 statues of biblical figures on the west façade, mistaken for French kings, were ritually beheaded.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/apr/16/the-culture-inspired-by-notre-dame-paris
America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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19. "black churches burn everyday b"
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http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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