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Crash Bandacoot
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"trump: release immigrant detainees into sanctuary cities"
Fri Apr-12-19 12:55 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

oh trump...lol. and NOW Georgetown wants to give reparations...lol.

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By Rachael Bade and
John Wagner
April 12 at 1:33 PM

LEESBURG, Va. — President Trump said Friday that his administration is giving “strong considerations” to a plan to release immigrant detainees exclusively into “sanctuary cities,” blaming Democrats for what he characterized as an unwillingness to change immigration laws.
His comments on Twitter followed a Washington Post report that the administration had been eyeing districts of political adversaries, including that of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), to release detainees.

“The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy – so this should make them very happy!” Trump wrote.

His tweets suggested that the plan, which immigration officials had rejected in November and February, was again viable and that the administration is now considering sending all detainees to sanctuary cities to the exclusion of other communities.

Pelosi calls White House sanctuary cities proposal 'disrespectful'

A White House official and a spokesman for Department of Homeland Security sent nearly identical statements to The Post on Thursday, indicating that the proposal was no longer under consideration.
“This was just a suggestion that was floated and rejected, which ended any further discussion,” the White House statement said.

In a separate statement late Thursday night, a White House official characterized the idea of steering migrants to sanctuary cities as being “informally asked.”

“The idea was briefly and informally raised and quickly rejected,” the official said.

Before Trump tweeted, Pelosi and other House Democrats attending a retreat here blasted the idea.

“It’s just another notion that is unworthy of the presidency of the United States and disrespectful of the challenges that we face as a county, as a people, to address who we are: a nation of immigrants,” Pelosi said.

House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) said the proposal is “very unfortunate and to be condemned — that you would use to penalize or to retribution for political reasons.”

“That’s not an act of democratic government,” he said.
The Washington Post reported Thursday that White House officials have twice tried to pressure U.S. immigration authorities to release undocumented migrants into “sanctuary cities” to retaliate against Trump’s political foes, including Pelosi.

The White House raised the idea in November just after the midterm elections as a migrant caravan was approaching the southern border, then again in February when Democrats were demanding a reduction in detention beds in a budget standoff over the government shutdown.
Pelosi’s San Francisco district was among the cities mentioned as a possible target, according to multiple DHS officials. Two took their case to Congress to blow the whistle on the proposal.

The idea never came to fruition and in fact alarmed ICE officials asked to carry it out. ICE leadership protested that busing migrants from the border to different cities in the U.S. would create an undue time and financial burden on an agency already struggling with challenges amid a border crisis, according to emails reviewed by The Post.

Lawyers at ICE rejected the idea for legal reasons as well; others noted it would cause “PR risks” to target Trump’s adversaries.
But the White House believed it could punish Democrats — including Pelosi — by releasing ICE detainees into their districts to try to create an unstable environment and chaos, according to two DHS whistleblowers who independently reported the busing plan to Congress.

The White House focus on San Francisco is noteworthy given Trump’s and GOP lawmakers’ repeated references to the murder of a young woman there at the hands of an undocumented immigrant. In 2015, 32-year-old Kathryn Steinle was shot and killed by an undocumented immigrant, a tragedy Republicans frequently discuss when calling for stricter immigration laws.

Pelosi said her members would look into the news reports of the busing plan.

In a Friday morning statement, House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.) said the fact that the idea was considered twice “serves as a reminder that the Trump administration’s reckless immigration agenda is not about keeping the country safe, but about partisan politics and wantonly inflicting cruelty.”

“If the administration wants to send a message to Democrats, let us send this message to the president: if your immigration policies are not fixing the problem but only cause chaos and focus on keeping people out, they will always fail,” Thompson said. “Playing politics with the country’s homeland security has been a mainstay of the Trump administration since day one. The American people want it to end.”

  

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havent they been doing this?
Apr 12th 2019
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Yeah, they did it outside El Paso in December
Apr 12th 2019
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pretty much
Apr 12th 2019
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      It is the wrong thing to do because of resources
Apr 12th 2019
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           dems + repubs have "handled" the situation thus far
Apr 12th 2019
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                Once they are dropped off they can go wherever they want
Apr 16th 2019
22
What was supposed to be the endgame here?
Apr 12th 2019
2
Trump might be the worst president US of all time, overall.
Apr 12th 2019
5
I go back and forth a lot between him and W Bush
Apr 12th 2019
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True. Trump's everyday is terrible, but his policies haven't been...
Apr 12th 2019
9
Separating families at the border is on par with anything W. did
Apr 12th 2019
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It's bad, but a lot of Iraqis got separated from their kids, too
Apr 12th 2019
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      nah but da difference is W had at least 1 or 2 decent things he did
Apr 12th 2019
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           No Child Left Behind was some bullshit
Apr 16th 2019
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bush had more tangible negative results(so far).
Apr 12th 2019
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Pretty much exactly what I was gonna say.
Apr 16th 2019
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Imagine if W used twitter to give us his opinion on everything?
Apr 16th 2019
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easily the least patriotic.
Apr 12th 2019
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Andrew Jackson is still the worst
Apr 17th 2019
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SF is a sanctuary city but how can they afford to live there
Apr 12th 2019
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5..10..15? inna house
Apr 12th 2019
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The Los Angeles method, apparently.
Apr 12th 2019
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buy a tent like everyone else.
Apr 12th 2019
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Isn’t this how it’s done already?
Apr 16th 2019
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Wouldn't they go where the jobs are?
Apr 16th 2019
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iowa is beautiful
Apr 16th 2019
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      You live there?
Apr 17th 2019
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lol @ the "isn't this done already" crowd
Apr 17th 2019
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is he going to build a wall around the sanctuary cities?
Apr 17th 2019
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1. "havent they been doing this?"
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i remember they dropped off all sorts of folks in a park in el paso on christmas eve. how is this different?

i kind of feel they should tell him go for it and the mayors of these cities can organize humane conditions for these people to stay in. id donate for that.

  

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3. "Yeah, they did it outside El Paso in December"
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IIRC nothing happened except a bunch of old ladies donated blankets to the people.

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Crash Bandacoot
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4. "pretty much"
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Fri Apr-12-19 01:33 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

and the democrats are like, "it's the wrong thing to do!" aka, a mess.

  

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11. "It is the wrong thing to do because of resources"
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Cities are not well equipped to handle a large population inflow in a short period of time. Especially a population with extra needs.

But Trump just wants the sound bytes. Of him owning the libs. And of democrats "complaining" about immigrants.

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Crash Bandacoot
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14. "dems + repubs have "handled" the situation thus far"
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Fri Apr-12-19 02:52 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

and under many different circumstances.

>Cities are not well equipped to handle a large population
>inflow in a short period of time. Especially a population with
>extra needs.
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>But Trump just wants the sound bytes. Of him owning the libs.
>And of democrats "complaining" about immigrants.


they should be able to go wherever they want in this country and should
be provided help at all costs. Alabama, Missouri, Montana, Oregon, New
York, San Fran...it shouldn't be limited to what they want.

this character (trump) just happens to be the head of this monster.

  

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22. "Once they are dropped off they can go wherever they want"
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but who wants to go to Missouri or Alabama unless they have fam there?

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2. "What was supposed to be the endgame here?"
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People in San Francisco are going to see a brown person and run hiding in their homes until they emerge in November 2020 to vote Republican? Did they have a plan for what to do if these immigrants DIDN'T go on a massive spree of Doing Crime To Whites?

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5. "Trump might be the worst president US of all time, overall."
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Even worse than them slave-owning and racist presidents. At least they appeared to give a fuck about 'their' country.

Trump just doesn't give a fuck. Every day just lashing out about some shit. No concern for anyone but himself and his agenda.

To suggest what he just did is despicable.

  

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6. "I go back and forth a lot between him and W Bush"
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As horrible as Trump is, he still doesn't have any one thing on the level of the Iraq War. Instead it's more like a bunch of smaller, everyday things that just make us an even worse country in every single way.

I think if Trump were to go away tomorrow, his presidency is still less destructive than Bush's. But he's so much less stable of a person/thinker, Trump could potentially change that all in one day.

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9. "True. Trump's everyday is terrible, but his policies haven't been..."
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...terribly destructive so far. I just really hate the way this man conducts himself.

  

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12. "Separating families at the border is on par with anything W. did"
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And then subsequently "losing" the kids make it even worse.

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13. "It's bad, but a lot of Iraqis got separated from their kids, too"
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We completely destroyed an entire country for no reason and Bush made jokes about it.

Again, by the end of the year, we could plausibly have troops in Venezuela (or at our own border) doing something even worse, so there's certainly time for Trump to do worse.

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15. "nah but da difference is W had at least 1 or 2 decent things he did"
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pepfar

no child left behind shit


45 aint done no nice shit except da criminal justice reform


plus W could at least talk normal


put it dis way seein clips of W now he look damn near GOOD compared to 45 lol

  

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20. "No Child Left Behind was some bullshit"
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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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18. "bush had more tangible negative results(so far)."
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2 wars, economic collapse, katrina, etc.

bush/republicans had complete control to institute their agenda...especially post-9/11. so more widespread damage via traditional policy pathways.

oddly enough...even tho trump is a budding authoritarian...he is historically a weak president in terms of legislation passed, court rulings against him, ability to sway majority of americans, etc.

it says a lot that the only way for him to get most things done is to change the rules or outright break the law.

had trump enjoyed bush 1st term post-9/11 approval numbers with complete repub control of washington in 2017/2018...he would prolly be a legit dynastic dictator by now.

  

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19. "Pretty much exactly what I was gonna say."
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I've said this before but I get so angry at the people who have spoken nostalgically about the W years in the wake of Individual 1's reign. I mean I get it, recency bias and all ... but Bush/Cheney were far, far more destructive from a policy standpoint and post-9/11 foreign affairs standpoint. Easy to forget in the 24 hour fake news era but ... it's true, sadly.



>2 wars, economic collapse, katrina, etc.
>
>bush/republicans had complete control to institute their
>agenda...especially post-9/11. so more widespread damage via
>traditional policy pathways.
>
>oddly enough...even tho trump is a budding authoritarian...he
>is historically a weak president in terms of legislation
>passed, court rulings against him, ability to sway majority of
>americans, etc.
>
>it says a lot that the only way for him to get most things
>done is to change the rules or outright break the law.
>
>had trump enjoyed bush 1st term post-9/11 approval numbers
>with complete repub control of washington in 2017/2018...he
>would prolly be a legit dynastic dictator by now.

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23. "Imagine if W used twitter to give us his opinion on everything?"
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It still amazes me when folks say W wasn’t that bad compared to Trump.

Really?

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16. "easily the least patriotic."
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like lets say someone perpetrated one of the most catastrophic acts of terrorism in american history and set off a low yield dirty bomb and wiped out a few blocks in one of americas bluest cities.

is there anyone here convinced that trump would do anything other than pray that it was a muslim or latin american immigrant so he could blame it on democrats?

i mean...his response to cali wildfires is sort of a test run for this.

  

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26. "Andrew Jackson is still the worst"
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7. "SF is a sanctuary city but how can they afford to live there"
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8. "5..10..15? inna house"
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10. "The Los Angeles method, apparently."
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17. "buy a tent like everyone else."
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21. "Isn’t this how it’s done already? "
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Who the fuck comes to America to live in Iowa?

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24. "Wouldn't they go where the jobs are?"
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I assume there are a lot of undocumented immigrants in farm country

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25. "iowa is beautiful"
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and lowkey not as many people

  

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29. "You live there?"
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27. "lol @ the "isn't this done already" crowd"
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28. "is he going to build a wall around the sanctuary cities?"
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He realizes that these people will move right? Most likely to places where their friends

  

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