Kinda sad that I even have to compare the two. I think it's Katy. Beyonce has the image but not the songs imo. I'll give Beyonce this she's the people's champ.

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Crazy in love

irreplaceable

naughty girl

freak'm dress

video phone

me myself and I

sweet dreams

end of time

But looking at the songs you listed don't really convince me it's a landslide. Which is a shame

Plus Beyoncé got hits that are "...eh" too (to go along with Katy's "...eh" hits)

Get me bodied

If I were a boy

Drunk in love

Single ladies

Halo

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Beyonce don't got nothin fuckin with All Cried Out, Head to Toe, or Take You Home.

So yes I can compare her to Katy Parry because she don't measure up to artist that came before her, she's not even close. Sounds like hate but it's the truth

Lisa Lisa? Really?

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Mid level singer, mediocre songs. People love her so that's good
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I’m not even a big Beyoncé fan but you bugging on her star power.

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>Beyonce don't got nothin fuckin with All Cried Out, Head to
>Toe, or Take You Home.


Agreed!

All 3 are top notch

Take You Home is THEE JAM.

you ain't slick

and I still can’t name a single Katy Perry song.

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i do think she's lacking a lot in the song dept in general but i feel like ignoring the DC hits isn't the way to go

i feel like Bey should have way more huge songs though for the megastar that she is

KP doesn't really have that many either but she has more in a shorter period of time maybe

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As far as singles I think Rihanna wins.
I like them both and though Beyonce is the bigger star, I think she would be able to go toe to toe with Rihanna but it's not the case for me.
More of Rihanna's songs hit my soul spot/head nod. Other than Me, Myself and I, Deja Vu, Drunk in Love, her others are good to very good but don't give me a 'feeling.'

Your post gave me a reason to rant about why I wished Beyonce's songs were 'more' for me. I wished she had more songs that grooved(?), ones that could match the best songs of (like u said) Lisa Lisa or Mary or Janet or Aaliyah or Monica... my favorite songs from Sevyn Streeter to Tamia to Cheri Dennis.

Imagine her with Jam and Lewis, Babyface, Organized Noize, Rahsaan Patterson's people. Not familiar with women writers/producers of that ilk, but them too.

Her song are good but not too many of them are song that are gonna be known as classics. She might be goat status when it comes to the Beyonce brand tho

Face, Teddy, or further back like Mtume. That's mainly because there is no longer any mainstream R&B scene for anyone to flourish in.

Yeah. This is a different time. But I wondered has she or her people thought about it and thinks it wouldn't work or not a good look.

Not true... those songs just go to white artists

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money singing that stuff, and I would like to see our artists making money too. But that stuff is not of the caliber of the great R&B of the past.

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If I looked at both of their Super Bowl halftime shows who's song are gonna have the biggest impact? Seems close to me.
I not even sure if Beyonce is the better singer.

not without the help of computers and back tracks.

You white?

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Are you white?

Beyonce ain't no ambassador for black folk. I can call her out for her lack of hits. She sounds soulless and pop most of the time anyway.

She can't hang with any singers 90's... She not on Brandy's or Toni's level

She don't rank well fam. Not touching Janet, Mary... I can go on

Sad that Adele is out doing her

wow.

my list of Lisa Lisa Hits

1. "I Wonder If I Take You Home"
2. "All Cried Out"
3. "Head to Toe"
4. "Lost in Emotion"

(note: 3 and 4 are stretches, but for the sake of "eh, why not" i tossed them in)

what (in your estimation) is missing?

Go to a bbq and play those.

The average white person doesn’t even know who Lisa Lise is let alone would call these hits.

I’ve seen professional Black women turn into Beyoncé clones as soon as the beat drops on her shit.

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>The average white person doesn’t even know who Lisa Lise is
>let alone would call these hits.

Throw on 'I wonder if I take you home' and lost in emotion at any party packed with 40+ white folks and they'll know who she is off the rip.

Trust. White folks do know this music.

and I may know a few..

But that’s folks who were invited to the BBQ.

Average white person doesn’t know Lisa Lisa.

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plus NBC (as stated earlier) so it's not TOTALLY out of bounds as a thought

i dunno

you play any of those besides "I wonder if i take you home" at a bbq and you will lose your DJ privileges and maybe your plate too

past that though...

your assertion is that Beyonce doesn't have five hits

gotcha

I mean, they're good songs, but classics?

Nah, b.

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that said, i stayed up late more than a few times to watch Lisa Lisa bounce her satin(?) covered self around in the "I wonder...." video (shoutout to friday night videos on NBC)

No one's remaking anything for Bey.

Lost in Emotion true no one's playing that.

"Hoe to Toe"

bruh.

>my list of Lisa Lisa Hits
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>1. "I Wonder If I Take You Home"
>2. "All Cried Out"
>3. "Head to Toe"
>4. "Lost in Emotion"
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>(note: 3 and 4 are stretches, but for the sake of "eh, why
>not" i tossed them in)
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>what (in your estimation) is missing?


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Personally, I think Beyonce definitely has got this over Katy Perry. But Lisa Lisa wasn't just a nobody. She's got R&B classics under her belt and "Head to Toe" was a certified pop radio hit.

that would actually be their #2 song

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Maybe "Me, Myself and I"

That's the only song I can see someone covering in the future.


I can't name one Katy Perry song.

over ride American standards for excellence in pop music.

She got hits that will be viewed as classics.

20 years from now she is going to get that Aretha treatment

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the song with Sen Paul (Baby Boy).

All in all that's nothing to be ashamed of. Single Ladies alone, being a bachelorette party/wedding reception staple, is a major achievement all by itself. But for her God-like status it's odd that she doesn't have a more intensely amazing catalogue. Like mentioned above, if she had Janet's catalogue, she'd be able to run for president right now.

Most God-figures in popular music have minimum 20 - 25 major songs they can point to. Madonna, Prince, MJ, Springsteen, Billy Joel, Aretha, Gladys, etc.

note: they might not be classics to ME per-se (frankly, she finally JUST won be over with that Coachella thing. That right there was unfadeable) but I think these were popular/ubiquitous enough to last a good while

Destiny's Child Songs

1) Say My Name
2) Lose My Breathe
3) Bootylicious
4) Bills, Bills, Bills
5) Survivor
6) Cater 2 U (maybe?)
7) Independent Woman (pt1) <--- maybe too closely tied to the movie tie-in?

Beyonce Solos
1) Crazy In love
2) Me Myself & I
3) Irreplaceable
4) Get Me Bodied
5) Run the World
6) Single Ladies
7) Halo
8) Drunk In Love
9) Flawless
10) Freedom
11) Formation

point: never underestimate an "I don't need you" song, or something chantable

I had a period of about 3 weeks maybe six months ago where Get On The Bus was on repeat for me.

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Beyoncé has some good songs but I agree nothing compared to the artists you mentioned above.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

because we were younger?

Janet has a nice catalog but I also had my first kiss, crush, slow dance to a lot of her songs so they are special.

Just wondering if the people who grew up on Beyoncé hold her songs in the same regard as Janet.

I mean, there is a church of Beyoncé for Christ sake.

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I'm not gonna compare cuz I don't need to since Beyonce is Katy Perry level to me.

I’m not say nothing extreme like Whitney or Céline Dion.

Imo Beyonce is more of a movement, I’m glad about the success. However, the collection of songs are definitely a stop down from the excellence of the 90’s, 80’s and so on. It’s to the point where at a time it was miles ahead, now it’s neck and neck

I work with a few white millennials who think Justin is the fucking truth and never seen Purple Rain.

This idea that Beyoncé isn’t viewed as a huge deal with classics is laughable. Younger kids who grew up seeing her on the screen view her as THE ONE.

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They all lasted decades it’s not a core age group that likes that.

We live in a different time. It just starting to happen when youngins are out of touch with shit.

If you were born in 1980 you’re considered a millennial

they're both artistically mediocre. both have some good songs, but are mostly eh.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Is there a musical song in there, or is just Sucker MC's level of rhythm and lyrics that pushed it over the top?

It's a weird song for a pop hit.

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she knows how to stay on message (look at the list of songs I posted earlier...most have the same core emotional through-line)

plus the video allowed for easy replication as a collaborative dance

it ain't deep at all

except for a few beats in the chorus and in part of the B section.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rRKBXQotnA&t=286s

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but it’s because I be drooling at the videos.

we had a family reunion in DC and every professional Black woman turns into a Beyoncé clone when the DJ played her songs. Doing the steps and all that shit.

Women try to fight me at bars when I debate Beyoncé’s true age.

Kate Perry.. smh.

OP gotta be dating a white gurl.

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women.

But she doesn't have an endless catalogue of "cuts", as Maxx would say.

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Work it out
Crazy in love
Baby Boy
Me, Myself and I
Summertime
Check on it
Deja Vu
Ring the alarm
Irreplaceable
Beautiful Liar (w/Shakira)
Get Me Bodied
If I were a boy
Single ladies
Diva
Halo
Run the world
Party (w/Andre 3000)
Love on Top
Countdown
End of Time
Partition
Flawless
711
Formation
Sorry
Hold up
Freedom (w/Kendrick Lamar)

Vs

I kissed a girl
Hot n Cold
Waking up in Vegas
California Gurls
Teenage Dream
Firework
ET
Last Friday Night (TGIF)
The One that Got away
Part of Me
Wide Awake
Roar
Dark Horse
Birthday
Rise
Chained to the Rythm
Swish, Swish

Katy had a great run for about 2 yrs (Cali Gurls through Dark Horse) but she's fading fast and her start wasn't as hot as B's. I also think Katy doesn't cross the aisle (urban and pop) as well as Beyonce does while B gets respect from both sides which I think is much harder to do.

And given all of this, Katy's singles tend to do better sales wise (pop+white) but even with that, Beyonce's album sales dwarf Katy's.

This is like comparing Fat Joe to Jay-Z.

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I could see Firework and Roar being in TV commercials ten years from now, California Girls will have legs, too. But the rest? Her first string of hits already sound kinda dated now.

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But I agree, B's songs seem to hover longer and you can probably still play her earlier discog and get kudos. Especially with the 25-40 crowd.

Katy's songs seem like they were made for 13-23yr olds and are stuck in that paradox.

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I don't like either artist's music at all, Katy looks more fuckable than Bae to me, but that's just me.

Anyway, to me I rather compare artists who really put in work to be an artist, and not just a vocal prop, like Jill Scott, Erykah, Me'Shell, etc.

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