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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"Can we talk 20 years+ microagressions?"


  

          

What's up with Lionel Richie faking a Caribbean accent in 'All Night Long'?

Or Stevie Wonder doing Spanish gibberish in 'Don't Worry About a Thing'?


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Stevie was trying to pull a Latina
Mar 17th 2019
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about DYWBAT
Mar 17th 2019
2
My boy and I went to look at a house in foreclosure
Mar 18th 2019
3
and you claim him???? lol...
Mar 18th 2019
4
Hell yeah. That’s my dude. I clowned the shit out of him too
Mar 18th 2019
6
Right?! Unacceptable.
Mar 18th 2019
11
Just completely ignorant lol
Mar 18th 2019
14
Yup. He also didn’t know how to pronounce Tesla
Mar 18th 2019
15
      >but he has one... <--- damn.
Apr 02nd 2019
42
Some times you can be sooo ignorant that it just comes back as Hilarious
Mar 18th 2019
18
      He’s a preacher so...
Mar 18th 2019
19
I wouldn't call those microaggressions
Mar 18th 2019
5
I thought that's the definition of microaggression...
Mar 18th 2019
7
Yeah I think most microaggressions aren't meant to be antagonistic
Mar 18th 2019
10
      I think they are, and people perform these actions with that intent
Mar 18th 2019
17
You think Stevie and Lionel were throwing darts with those lines...
Mar 18th 2019
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Of course not. I also doubt people were offended then.
Mar 18th 2019
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      I feel you. For the record, I find ALL fake accents offensive
Mar 18th 2019
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           Jamaicans are weird though.
Mar 18th 2019
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           Phife Dawg is Trinidadian so, yes, his Jamaican is fake.
Apr 02nd 2019
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           Jawn is pronounced like yawn right?
Mar 18th 2019
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                Kinda. Just said it outloud and I sound like "jaun"
Mar 18th 2019
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                     Rumor has it *e*ze* working on a Chuck Brown tribute album.
Mar 18th 2019
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                          lol, you joke but I'm waiting for the great white go-go song...
Mar 18th 2019
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                               real talk, I better edit that shit before they get any ideas lol....
Mar 18th 2019
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                                    oops, wrong spot. weird.
Mar 19th 2019
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Steel Pulse being so good
Mar 18th 2019
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^ walks around blurting out "LAWDAMERCY!"
Mar 18th 2019
20
Explain this one.
Mar 18th 2019
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      Steel Pulse is from Birmingham, England
Mar 18th 2019
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      mang, I learned of this like 3 years ago. My entire life became a lie.
Mar 18th 2019
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      Shit... I been known and I do not care. That’s my group!!!
Mar 18th 2019
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           haha same
Mar 19th 2019
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      Did not know this.
Mar 18th 2019
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      ok, that's what i thought you meant.
Mar 19th 2019
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           I'm still not quite sure what the OP means...but I figured this was clos...
Mar 19th 2019
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                haha, yeah it's definitely in the same vein.
Mar 19th 2019
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DYWBAT
Mar 18th 2019
24
Exactly this
Mar 19th 2019
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80 years+ microagressions: uncle ben and aunt jemima
Mar 19th 2019
38
I'd wager musicians from all cultures do this
Mar 20th 2019
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Mercedes Boy by Peebles
Apr 02nd 2019
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1. "Stevie was trying to pull a Latina"
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being blind, charm is the strongest gift in his arsenal

  

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2. "about DYWBAT"
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I was driving Uber and had that song on a shuffle playlist

Picked up some Spanish speaking passengers and they were liking my music and the vibe etc...i was chatting w/them a bit in Spanish, to practice...then that song came on and i was legit embarrassed at the beginning part...i skipped to the next song quickly LOL

first time ever I saw the song in the context of it being not cool. Now its hard for me to listen to it

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3. "My boy and I went to look at a house in foreclosure "
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The occupants were still in the house but had no problem letting you walk thru.

She was Portuguese I think...

Anyway, my boy starts asking her questions in fake Spanish by putting an el at the beginning and an O at the end of every word.

“El Nice neighborhoodo”

“El Safe O”

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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4. "and you claim him???? lol..."
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6. "Hell yeah. That’s my dude. I clowned the shit out of him too"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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11. "Right?! Unacceptable."
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14. "Just completely ignorant lol"
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>She was Portuguese I think...
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>Anyway, my boy starts asking her questions in fake Spanish

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->

  

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15. "Yup. He also didn’t know how to pronounce Tesla"
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but he has one... shrugs.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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42. ">but he has one... <--- damn. "
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says all the good pronunciating ni&&as like me with no teslas.


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18. "Some times you can be sooo ignorant that it just comes back as Hilarious"
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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19. "He’s a preacher so... "
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them niggas all about making up words anyways

but I was like “negro, are you fake spanishing this Portuguese woman?”

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5. "I wouldn't call those microaggressions"
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because they're not meant to be antagonistic (correct me if I'm wrong), they're meant to be fun(ny). they're both kind of ignorant.

Especially Stevie, when he starts doing that on that song I fall out laughing every time, same as the end of the album version of "I Left My Wallet In El Segundo" where you can hear Phife say "JALAPENO CHIPS!"

  

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7. "I thought that's the definition of microaggression..."
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>because they're not meant to be antagonistic

Microaggressions don't need to be intentionally antagonizing - the specifically include things that the offender isn't even aware of.

  

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10. "Yeah I think most microaggressions aren't meant to be antagonistic"
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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17. "I think they are, and people perform these actions with that intent"
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The "look at you then put her hand on her pocketbook" is one that's obvious. That hand does NOTHING but let me know that she thinks I'm a thief. It does nothing to stop theft, because I could take the bag anyway if I really wanted to.

Most of the micro-aggressions I see are like this. Seemingly benign actions that really don't make any sense when you look at the greater context.

Pretending not to see me while walking to my path (in order to make ME move out of the way) is another one. Seemingly an accident, but it's really not.

  

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8. "You think Stevie and Lionel were throwing darts with those lines..."
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...passive-aggressively attacking Caribbean and Spanish-speaking people?

  

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9. "Of course not. I also doubt people were offended then. "
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But do some shit like that today and that shit would be negatively trending on twitter in a heart beat.


>...passive-aggressively attacking Caribbean and
>Spanish-speaking people?


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13. "I feel you. For the record, I find ALL fake accents offensive"
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Probably should go in that "things that make you automatically assume someone is corny/stupid" post.

The NYC rapper's Jafakin' accent still bugs me.


Shit, I get annoyed when people not from Philly try to use our slang. always pronouncing shit wrong.

  

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16. "Jamaicans are weird though. "
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I got some Jamaican inlaws who usually sound "normal" but when they get around other Jamaicans or see some strategic advantage to doing it, drop into the heaviest Jamaican accent. I wonder if that's what Phife dawg does at time or is it a Ja Fakin accent.


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41. "Phife Dawg is Trinidadian so, yes, his Jamaican is fake."
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21. "Jawn is pronounced like yawn right?"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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23. "Kinda. Just said it outloud and I sound like "jaun""
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The one that really gets me is folks come here talking about "...ad John was busting on him because of his hat!"

I'm thinking, there is no "t" or "g" in "bussin'" (probably not a Philly term, similar meaning to "baggin'")

Drives me crazy. Always *those* types of folks that do this too. You know, the ones that moved to a city two years ago and now they know more than the locals that grew up there.

Then you correct them and they want to argue with you.

I'm sure this happens in every city that experiences gentrification. Just waiting for y'all to let us know when they try to gentrify go-go so we can get on the bus and come protest.

  

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25. "Rumor has it *e*ze* working on a Chuck Brown tribute album."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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27. "lol, you joke but I'm waiting for the great white go-go song..."
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...I think go-go is the only genre that hasn't gotten the treatment yet. Maybe B-More club music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO-U7pkhcW4

  

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28. "real talk, I better edit that shit before they get any ideas lol...."
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35. "oops, wrong spot. weird."
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12. "Steel Pulse being so good"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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20. "^ walks around blurting out "LAWDAMERCY!""
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22. "Explain this one. "
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Just wanna make sure I understand what you're saying.

  

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26. "Steel Pulse is from Birmingham, England"
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And they are in my top 5 of reggae groups...
arguably one of if not THE best...
but...i'm quite sure they eat more bubbles and squeak than oxtail.



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29. "mang, I learned of this like 3 years ago. My entire life became a lie. "
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SP was music I grew up with. Moms played marley, yellow man, etc but I remember steel pulse the most.

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30. "Shit... I been known and I do not care. That’s my group!!!"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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33. "haha same"
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31. "Did not know this."
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Doesn't change my perception of them tho.

Kinda like when I found out Cal Tjader is from St. Louis.

  

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32. "ok, that's what i thought you meant."
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but you right, fuck it. they are that good. saw them this past summer Haha. i still don't really see that as the same thing listed in the OP, but that may be my bias showing because i like 'em.

now if you had said some whiteboy reggae band i woulda been in full agreement Haha

  

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34. "I'm still not quite sure what the OP means...but I figured this was clos..."
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lol...


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36. "haha, yeah it's definitely in the same vein."
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or is it vain? whatever, i think you're in line with the OP, I just never thought of them that way.

  

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24. "DYWBAT"
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... is one of my favorite Stevie songs but that part has never not made me cringe.

  

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37. "Exactly this"
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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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38. "80 years+ microagressions: uncle ben and aunt jemima"
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stuff like that is so far down the list vs day-to-day racism that nobody got time to deal with it



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39. "I'd wager musicians from all cultures do this "
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I've heard Portuguese artists do it with English at least

If the intent is to homage the culture then most folks probaby don't have an issue with it

Kind of like how most women love songs with misogynistic lyrics

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40. "Mercedes Boy by Peebles"
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"Do you want to ride in my Mercedes boy?
Tell me what you're gonna do with me.
'Cause if you want to ride in my Mercedes boy.
There are so many things that I'm gonna do to you.
Baby, let me tell you.."


Soooo, in order to get a ride with you, I have to subject myself to your advances? SMH.





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