3. "bottom line. folks TIRED of Black women getting shitted on...." In response to Reply # 0
and it hurts the most from our own people. Motown wouldn't be SHIT without Black women... FOH Smokey.. & FOH NEW Motown if they can't see the fallacy...
It is an underlying theme in our music. Black, and I do mean the dark skinned, kinky haired variety, have created amazing music, lyrics, culture and a whole entire mood. It only becomes appealing when a mixed/biracial/light skinned version performs it to the masses. How would anyone feel about something they created from depths of their soul gets sold out and displayed by someone who doesn't even remotely acknowledge, respect or resemble them.
I don't think people realize how deep the resentment, anger, pain and backlash that comes from this impacts our identities.
So many other artists that could have done Motown.
Black women will continue to persevere. But don't think we will keep supporting bullshit.
And you're aboslutely right about us not being able to control our own thing. But despite all the criticisms, the Grammys still hold a lot of pull in the music industry.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
10. "while I don't agree, I kinda get where his head is" In response to Reply # 0
just spitballing here but I wonder if its a case of old outlook mismatched with new perspectives.
Until Marvin Gaye pushed to release 'Whats Going On' MoTown was largely focused on making apolitical music
Smokey was of the time were people he witnessed music bringing people together
So, in the time of hardlines being laid down - i.e. you either with us or against us, i.e. fuck waiting for a turn, the time is NOW - his old perspective is I think getting caught up in the times.
That is not to say there were never overtly political/vocal performers of his time...I just think hes coming at it from a perspective thats not being counted.
That said...when my wife told me about the performance I scratched my head because non of it made sense..then again, I can't think of a modern artist at the mainstream level who would fit with a MoTown performance, lesser known folks for sure - well actually, shit, Raphael Sadiq would have been a good choice since he made that album or even Sharon Jones...wait, no...or maybe Charles Bradley...shit, wait...Ralphael Sadiq then.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79607 posts
Wed Feb-13-19 04:47 PM
25. "Hmm.. not if she is doing those wack robotic dance moves" In response to Reply # 13
voice is cool but her moves are a turn off.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
14. "Jill, Ledisi, Erykah, Carol Riddick, Jazmine Sullivan, etc..." In response to Reply # 10
were all available.
Now, could they have danced as well as J-Lo did? Prolly not but they'd have brought the house down with some serious Motown renditions.
It was a head scratcher for me too but I ain't up in armas about it. Shit! If you were really watching, Alicia mentioned all types of names except for Barry Gordy's. He was looking stupid standing there.
Then again, I'm getting old and can't hear too well anymore. Maybe they did say his name and I'm mistaken. LOL Was gon off that Ripple.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79607 posts
Wed Feb-13-19 04:49 PM
26. "You aren’t doing a good job for JLO" In response to Reply # 20
if she can’t dance.. welp.
She still bad den a mug tho.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
27. "now YOU caping for her too??" In response to Reply # 20
her age aint an excuse cuz she took her behind out there
she stay on social media doing workout videos and talkign about how fine she is
i aint mad at none of that
but she damn sure don't get to have it both ways
I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt ahead of time based on her flygirl street-cred (maybe she'll just dance over the songs....), but THAT performance at the Grammy's was wacksauce
18. "Her singing was A LOT better than I exepected" In response to Reply # 15
>what she did was pretty much a las vegas revue kinda deal Yup, that's what The Grammys are.
>she cain't sing i think she can sing - but by no means is she a good singer.
All I could think of during the tribute was "Just put Stevie out there behind a keyboard and have him to the entire thing."
Note:I saw Ne-Yo perform with Stevie about 8 years ago and Ne-Yo is the world's biggest Stevie fan/stan. He was so respectful and he talked about how much he loved Stevie's music and how much he loved Stevie.
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