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lightworks
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"WTF Liam Neeson?!?!!"


          

https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2019/02/04/liam-neeson-recalls-wanting-to-kill-any-black-bastard-after-a-friend-was-raped/23661196/

  

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Is he catholic?
Feb 04th 2019
1
Must be some UK shit. Liam can bring his weak-ass over to the US
Feb 04th 2019
2
21 Savage need to fuck this nigga up when he get home.
Feb 04th 2019
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^^^love it when the stars align for replies like this to exist^^^ lol
Feb 04th 2019
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LOL!..
Feb 04th 2019
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Oh, I'm here for this reply
Feb 04th 2019
30
his publicist gotta be tight rn
Feb 04th 2019
5
Is he playing a role in an Emmitt Till biopic?
Feb 04th 2019
6
props for being real.
Feb 04th 2019
8
Neeson's thoughts probably didn't have to be voiced
Feb 04th 2019
29
RE: Neeson's thoughts probably didn't have to be voiced
Feb 05th 2019
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agreed
Feb 05th 2019
34
He has a particular set of racist skills
Feb 04th 2019
9
I have a particular set of sKKKills
Feb 04th 2019
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      Haha.. awesome
Feb 04th 2019
14
Didn't read the whole thing but if his point is I use to be racist but I...
Feb 04th 2019
11
I tapped into my inner racist lyncher for this role.
Feb 04th 2019
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i think that was his point from reading it
Feb 04th 2019
15
Not sure why he thought it would be a good idea to say this
Feb 04th 2019
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That’s racism 101
Feb 04th 2019
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      I understand that, I just don't know what made him think it was a good i...
Feb 04th 2019
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           Dude went too far
Feb 04th 2019
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he clearly said he was wrong and ashamed for feeling like that.
Feb 04th 2019
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That's the dilemma though. Is an apology enough to erase past sins?
Feb 04th 2019
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not all apologies are equal.
Feb 04th 2019
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Liam shouldn't be governor either
Feb 04th 2019
21
*removed*
Feb 04th 2019
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Did he actually assault anyone?
Feb 04th 2019
22
if someone wants to crucify him for something he admitted on his own
Feb 04th 2019
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That was my reaction but still fucked up that he ever thought that
Feb 05th 2019
33
The whole interview
Feb 04th 2019
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Nothing about the full context makes it less racist
Feb 04th 2019
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      Who said it did ?
Feb 04th 2019
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I mean, he's Irish. I expect him to be at least a little bit racist.
Feb 04th 2019
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There is nothing shocking about a sixty year old white man saying
Feb 04th 2019
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White privilege is being praised for not killing an innocent person
Feb 05th 2019
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^^^sees it....
Feb 05th 2019
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We've been trained to empathize with white men implicitly.
Feb 05th 2019
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I for one, admire his restraint
Feb 05th 2019
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oh geez
Feb 05th 2019
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well stated retort
Feb 05th 2019
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      ditto
Feb 05th 2019
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           Read any comments section
Feb 05th 2019
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                nah, you addressing racists not represented here
Feb 05th 2019
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                     so if I'm addressing racists eating this up, that's who I'm addressing
Feb 05th 2019
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                          why are you addressing it here
Feb 05th 2019
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                               You could just read my post and not assume I was talking about you
Feb 05th 2019
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                                    it's still shadowboxing
Feb 05th 2019
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                                         nah, you took it personally but we're not going to go back and forth
Feb 05th 2019
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                                              good luck in the endless horde of commenters battle
Feb 05th 2019
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who's praising him?
Feb 05th 2019
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      read any comments section or whites in general commenting on this
Feb 05th 2019
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           thats guilt, not praise
Feb 05th 2019
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           Are they praising him for initially going out trying to kill someone
Feb 05th 2019
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I guess good for NOT killing some random dude?
Feb 05th 2019
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"what color was he?" <--secretly hopin he was black to justify some shit
Feb 05th 2019
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More of a surprise when THEY ARE NOT, than when the are.
Feb 05th 2019
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I wonder if he's bringing this up to signal to
Feb 05th 2019
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^^^sees it....
Feb 05th 2019
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he showed himself in "Widows"
Feb 05th 2019
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yeah, I thought him playing "against type"
Feb 05th 2019
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bentagain
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1. "Is he catholic?"
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2. "Must be some UK shit. Liam can bring his weak-ass over to the US"
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Dude wasn't gonna do shit but be another victim.

  

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3. "21 Savage need to fuck this nigga up when he get home."
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4. "^^^love it when the stars align for replies like this to exist^^^ lol"
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7. "LOL!.."
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..never change.


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30. "Oh, I'm here for this reply"
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Perfect posting...

You're such pests...now, what is it you want? In your depths of your ignorance, what is it you want? Well, whatever it is you want, I can't deliver because I just don't see it. - Orson Welles


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BrooklynWHAT
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5. "his publicist gotta be tight rn"
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6. "Is he playing a role in an Emmitt Till biopic?"
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8. "props for being real."
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most people try to pretend they dont have those thoughts after going through stuff like that.


I'm not saying he's right and I think he needs to take a seat but I'm saying that I get how illogical thought comes up after experiencing violent experiences that have no logic or meaning.


I had a scuffle where it was me against 5 dudes and I felt mad froggy around people who reminded me of them for a while before I started to logically think things through.





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29. "Neeson's thoughts probably didn't have to be voiced"
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And acting on those thoughts would be unacceptable no matter what happened.

But I remembered after I had a traumatic experience how sharp and quick my mind would go to irrational or hurtful places when someone who generally appeared to look like the person who harmed me.

I never acted on it and sought treatment for it for sometime. Thankfully those thoughts have quieted down.

There are (ought to be) safe spaces were victims and those close to those who have been affected by trauma can come together and voice those obsessive thoughts and at least get out from under them.

But there's a line between unburdening oneself from pain and powerlessness in the name of healing and numbing out and not grieving or processing the trauma. The press isn't that place unless the article is very carefully crafted.

  

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58. "RE: Neeson's thoughts probably didn't have to be voiced"
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Thinking about this further, I think this IS a good learning opportunity and something someone in a similar situation might need to hear to avoid doing something terrible.

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34. "agreed"
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i wouldn't even give him props per se

but people want white people to confront their racism and privilege and get all pikachu faced when they actually do

oh, but not publicly face asses

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9. "He has a particular set of racist skills"
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10. "I have a particular set of sKKKills"
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14. "Haha.. awesome"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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11. "Didn't read the whole thing but if his point is I use to be racist but I..."
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anymore, I would shrug at that.

Not sure if that was his point though.


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12. "I tapped into my inner racist lyncher for this role."
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Which is kind of honest, imo.

  

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15. "i think that was his point from reading it"
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i'd have to see the interview tho.

  

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13. "Not sure why he thought it would be a good idea to say this"
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If the meant he was going to go find the dude who ACTUALLY raped his friend that's one thing, trying to go around fighting random Black people he can fuck off

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17. "That’s racism 101"
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One person does something terrible and you hate an entire race because of it.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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23. "I understand that, I just don't know what made him think it was a good i..."
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To actually say that in an interview, seemingly unprompted

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27. "Dude went too far"
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Some things you keep to yourself.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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16. "he clearly said he was wrong and ashamed for feeling like that."
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18. "That's the dilemma though. Is an apology enough to erase past sins?"
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Keep the Governor of VA in mind while you answer

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20. "not all apologies are equal. "
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so liam's for me is but that governor can kick rocks.

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21. "Liam shouldn't be governor either"
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31. "*removed*"
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n/m

  

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22. "Did he actually assault anyone?"
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Wanting to do something and actually doing it are two different things.

I'd still give him the side eye either way

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Reeq
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24. "if someone wants to crucify him for something he admitted on his own"
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and clearly condemned as wrong and shameful...then thats up to them.

but its really nothing like the northam situation other than including racism somewhere in there.

  

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33. "That was my reaction but still fucked up that he ever thought that"
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Kinda weird like I wanna say aight, cool, this is the kind of repentance and openness we all need ... but at the same time i am kinda like fuck him anyway because that seems mad irrational and fucked up to have thought in the first place

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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19. "The whole interview"
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Some people in this thread are getting lost in the sauce and going the Carlton drive too slow route. So here is the interview.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/liam-neeson-interview-rape-race-black-man-revenge-taken-cold-pursuit-a8760896.html?fbclid=IwAR36z3iyoXx9gjK35nIvelpR_jHa0ELUhJUZaitAWCyQ6lUTSiz1rkIh7n4


Liam Neeson is sitting in an armchair with a flask of tea at his side. We are in the sprawling suite of a Manhattan hotel to talk about his latest film, Cold Pursuit. Just as he has in a number of roles since he became an action hero in his fifties, Neeson plays an everyman hell-bent on revenge. Yet here in the rigid, conveyor-belt atmosphere of the celebrity junket, the 66-year-old star of Taken is about to recount a disturbing incident from his past, a confession that he’s never made before. It will involve how he learnt about the rape of someone close to him many years ago, how he roamed the streets for a week afterwards carrying with him a cosh and brutal, racist thoughts, and how this taught him that violence and revenge do not work.

It begins as an explanation of how his latest character turns to anger. “There’s something primal – God forbid you’ve ever had a member of your family hurt under criminal conditions,” he begins, hesitantly but thoughtfully. “I’ll tell you a story. This is true.”

It was some time ago. Neeson had just come back from overseas to find out about the rape. “She handled the situation of the rape in the most extraordinary way,” Neeson says. “But my immediate reaction was…” There’s a pause. “I asked, did she know who it was? No. What colour were they? She said it was a black person.

“I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I’d be approached by somebody – I’m ashamed to say that – and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some ‘black bastard’ would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could,” another pause, “kill him.”

Neeson clearly knows what he’s saying, and how shocking it is, how appalling. “It took me a week, maybe a week and a half, to go through that. She would say, ‘Where are you going?’ and I would say, ‘I’m just going out for a walk.’ You know? ‘What’s wrong?’ ‘No no, nothing’s wrong.’”

He deliberately withholds details to protect the identity of the victim. “It was horrible, horrible, when I think back, that I did that,” he says. “And I’ve never admitted that, and I’m saying it to a journalist. God forbid.”

“Holy shit,” says Tom Bateman, his co-star, who is sitting beside him.

“It’s awful,” Neeson continues, a tremble in his breath. “But I did learn a lesson from it, when I eventually thought, ‘What the fuck are you doing,’ you know?”


All three of us know – Neeson, Bateman and I – that this is a distressing admission. “I come from a society – I grew up in Northern Ireland in the Troubles – and, you know, I knew a couple of guys that died on hunger strike, and I had acquaintances who were very caught up in the Troubles, and I understand that need for revenge, but it just leads to more revenge, to more killing and more killing, and Northern Ireland’s proof of that. All this stuff that’s happening in the world, the violence, is proof of that, you know. But that primal need, I understand.”

He continues, more generally, about violence on screen. His tone changes. We’re back, suddenly, to a normal junket interview. But this had not been the average confession to make. As he had admitted, it’s horrible, awful. Is it possible to hear that said out loud or to read those words and not judge? Then again, think of the circumstance – he had learnt someone close to him had been raped. No one would ever want to have to confront that in their own life. Do other people react that way?


In Cold Pursuit, the son of his character, Nels Coxman, is killed by a drug gang, sparking the desire for revenge. “I think audience members live to see ,” Neeson continues. “They can kind of live vicariously through it. People say, ‘Yeah but violence in films makes people want to go out and kill people.’ I don’t believe that at all.

“I think the average moviegoer thinks, ‘Yeah, punch him. Punch him.’ And they get a satisfaction out of seeing somebody else enact it, and they leave the theatre and they feel satiated in some way.”

In the real world, there are, of course, many different triggers behind that awful desire for violence. Neeson’s own story can’t be separated from the circumstances of the rape of someone close to him, can it? It is not uncommon for people to experience a desire for revenge after a sexual assault. I contacted Laura Palumbo, from the National Sexual Violence Resource Centre, a non-profit based in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, to talk about this – without revealing Neeson’s name. Such incidents, she says, can lead to a variety of emotions ranging from shock to the shame of not being able to prevent the attack from happening.

“Often it is less obvious to the loved ones of survivors that they might actually need support in dealing with their emotions themselves, just like the survivors,” says Palumbo. They experience a secondary form of trauma, she explains. Some start thinking about what they could have done differently, and they may contemplate seeking retribution.

Hollywood's new Hitchcock on his chosen leading man, Liam Neeson
Gender stereotypes can reinforce those feelings. Palumbo says men face “a number of pressures” due to the way they’re typically socialised, which usually sends them the message that they should be “protectors”. When an attack does happen, they can feel powerless, which in turn can trigger a desire for control. “They want to harm the person who did this to their loved one. They want them to face the consequence. There’s that strong desire to redeem power, to redeem control,” Palumbo says. But the victim of a sexual assault must, of course, take priority, she continues – and the hope is that by receiving counselling and addressing their own feelings, loved ones can in turn focus on the survivor’s needs.

Neeson’s brief desire for such random, violent revenge is all the more alarming for the racial dimension to his confession. Lasana Harris is an associate professor of experimental psychology at University College London. Again, nothing of Neeson’s identity was revealed when I contacted him to discuss this following the interview, so he was not commenting on Neeson but on his more general experience and knowledge. Incidents as abhorrent as rape can, he says, shape the way someone thinks about a specific community. And this is not just relevant to race – for example, the thoughts one might harbour about young people, or old people as well as black people.


‘Taken’ kickstarted his action-movie career in 2008 (Fox)
“I think it may have something to do with the pre-existing biases,” says Harris, though remember this cannot be taken as a judgement on Neeson himself nor this specific incident. He explains how our minds can generalise a negative experience with a person by categorising them in a way that may be flawed. Was that what was happening when Neeson walked the streets looking for a random person on whom to exact his revenge? Harris acknowledges that there is an unjustifiable prejudice when it comes to black people being perceived as perpetrators of sexual assault. “You can control it if you’re aware of the stereotype, if you’re aware of the fact that you have these stereotypes and these biases,” he says.

Some days after that short, 17-minute interview in a New York City hotel, I contacted Neeson’s publicist again to see if he would discuss his story further. He declined. But as Neeson said, the story has now been told for the first time. Perhaps that’s enough.

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28. "Nothing about the full context makes it less racist"
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32. "Who said it did ?"
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25. "I mean, he's Irish. I expect him to be at least a little bit racist."
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26. "There is nothing shocking about a sixty year old white man saying"
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they use to be racist other than the "use to be" part.


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kevlar skully
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35. "White privilege is being praised for not killing an innocent person "
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Just another excuse for whites to tell us that racism not aimed at them is understandable and praising a white man for not being a racist murderer.


Let a brother admit he wanted to kill a white man because of all the rape white men and woman have done to Africans and was stalking for a white person to test him for a week; you think it’s going to be framed as personal growth?

He really should have kept this shit to himself; this over-sharing benefits no one. This shit you talk about with your therapist fr fr

  

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36. "^^^sees it...."
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y'all gone and let Liam cook doe....
smh


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kevlar skully
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40. "We've been trained to empathize with white men implicitly. "
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meanwhile, black folks are not even seen as people that's allowed emotions like anger.

Let someone reasonably say they don't like this, you think anyone going to bother to empathize with them or is it going to be "why is everyone so sensitive these days?"


For real, the only time large groups of white people show any sort of empathy is for a white person, usually on some fucked up shit. They BIG MAD at players kneeling but when a white trump kid murders bunch of kids, suddenly they want to rally around the murderer as if he were the one bullied when he in fact was the harasser all along.


the empathy is so specifically dolled out



I'm not going to sit here and pat this old white man on the back for NOT killing a random person based on race; that's what you're not supposed to do.

If I randomly tell people I fantasize about killing police, I'm not going to get any understanding from all the people who claim this is a "personal growth" story so fuck this

  

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41. "I for one, admire his restraint "
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42. "oh geez"
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43. "well stated retort "
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MiracleRic
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45. "ditto"
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no need to retort a very specific and self-serving framing of it

nobody praising him for not killing black people

if anything most people are saying much ado about nothing

he did some negative and racist shit and then realized it was fucked up

confronting racist and privileged ideas pretty much creating and solving your own problems...aint nobody trying to give this irish nigga accolades for that shit

sun salutation ass levels of reaching

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kevlar skully
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46. "Read any comments section "
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lots of " he's being a real person", "Liam's my hero", "why bring this up to drag down his name?"


but ok, I'm a "hotep" for calling white privilege...

  

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MiracleRic
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48. "nah, you addressing racists not represented here"
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cool...good luck with that

let's continue to take the idiots seriously in the conversation

gotcha

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kevlar skully
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49. "so if I'm addressing racists eating this up, that's who I'm addressing "
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and if I'm speaking to how the story plays to society at large and not just the people here, then I'm speaking to how the story plays to society at large and not just the people here

  

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MiracleRic
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50. "why are you addressing it here"
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as if it's happening here

probably should have been more clear with that

the fact that you focused on them is hilarious as well

picture me entering a decent discussion about anything but targeting comment section trolls and bots...like holy shit

not to mention

"He really should have kept this shit to himself; this over-sharing benefits no one. This shit you talk about with your therapist fr fr"

the target of your stance and this is silly based on what i said as well

we want them to deal with their privilege and racism but not too publicly bc then it's triggering

you called yourself a hotep...i called u stretch armstrong

keep boxing shadows though

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kevlar skully
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51. "You could just read my post and not assume I was talking about you"
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"Just another excuse for whites to tell us that racism not aimed at them is understandable and praising a white man for not being a racist murderer."

right there, I specified who I'm talking about.

You really reaching now with this "how dare you speak of people outside of this forum"? trolls and bots influence and change narratives all the time.



He literally did not deal with his privilege and racism here, that's my problem. He brought this up unprompted and didn't really unpack his racism at all; just so we can all pretend he did. There really isn't an societal benefit to him admitting this like he did, especially since he didn't "deal" with his racism at all

  

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MiracleRic
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52. "it's still shadowboxing"
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you sitting in here addressing literally the most unreasonable target with unreasonable shit in it

i didn't say you were addressing me

it's just really special to sit there and counter-argument irrationality when it's plenty of rational discourse to be had here

it's shadowboxing and just special as fuck

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kevlar skully
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53. "nah, you took it personally but we're not going to go back and forth "
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nothing I said was unreasonable or irrational.

have the last word, captain rationality

  

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56. "good luck in the endless horde of commenters battle"
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44. "who's praising him?"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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47. "read any comments section or whites in general commenting on this "
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acting like he's soooooo brave for admitting this

  

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59. "thats guilt, not praise"
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60. "Are they praising him for initially going out trying to kill someone"
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Or for recognizing his actions as being wrong and correcting himself before committing an act of violence?


That's a pretty important distinction, if it's the latter that's something that actually should be encouraged

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37. "I guess good for NOT killing some random dude?"
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But why, though?

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38. ""what color was he?" <--secretly hopin he was black to justify some shit"
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fuck that dude

Who asks that question within the first, i dunno, 10 questions to console a friend?

  

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39. "More of a surprise when THEY ARE NOT, than when the are."
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54. "I wonder if he's bringing this up to signal to"
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MAGA heads that he gets them, he's one of them, come see his movie because he's not like those Hollyweird elites.

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57. "^^^sees it...."
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Dog whistle plain & simple...




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55. "he showed himself in "Widows""
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probably the perfect role for him

  

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61. "yeah, I thought him playing "against type""
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was cool... the entire movie was great casting and racial easter eggs
so much that basic critics complained about the "vignette" visual direction

I thought his rage came from his (famous) wife's death
when he started doing the Takens...

after this mess, I googled to see he was down before she died

I've watched The Commuter so many times for his "everyman portrayal"

so weird

  

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