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double negative
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"Rap songs where the POV switches or is not always first person"


  

          

Listened to Lupe Fiasco's 'He Say She Say' and was reminded of the fact that this song starts from the perspective of a parent or adult observing the main character btu then the second part is the main character repeating each line from the first but the perspective has switched to first person.

Then I was reminded of Kendrick Lamar's 'FEAR' where it's a three part story of Kendrick as a kid, a teenager and an adult.


What else matches that style of storytelling?

I want to say Nas' 'I gave you power' but thats still first person

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Redman-Green Island and Souls of Mischief-Live and Let Live come to mind...
Jan 09th 2019
1
Tell Me Who Profits from Souls of Mischief counts as well.
Jan 09th 2019
18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DO5SeHQa7g
Jan 09th 2019
2
I blame the ADHD.
Jan 09th 2019
4
Gravediggaz - fairytalez
Jan 09th 2019
3
Eminem - Stan
Jan 09th 2019
5
Does Biggie-Gimme The Loot count?
Jan 09th 2019
6
I love and hate that Lupe song. Shit is too real.
Jan 09th 2019
7
Gang Starr - just to get a rep
Jan 09th 2019
8
GOOD ONE!
Jan 09th 2019
17
Wayne's Mona Lisa w/Kendrick is a good recent one.
Jan 09th 2019
9
KMD - hard wit no hoe
Jan 09th 2019
10
Big Daddy Kane - calling Mr. Welfare
Jan 09th 2019
11
Lupe Fiasco - He Said She Said
Jan 09th 2019
12
Smh...you ain’t read the post or the damn song title
Jan 09th 2019
27
      Lmao 0 for 2. It was first thing that came to mind, had to get my shit i...
Jan 10th 2019
30
Joe Budden - Three Sides To A Story
Jan 09th 2019
13
Bobby Feeno (Arian Foster): A Friend, A Fan, A Kid
Jan 09th 2019
14
Good call. That's a top 3 2018 album for me.
Jan 11th 2019
40
Does "Singin Man" count?
Jan 09th 2019
15
Wu-Tang Clan - America
Jan 09th 2019
16
denzel curry - "sick & tired"
Jan 09th 2019
19
brenda's got a baby // millie pulled a pistol on santa
Jan 09th 2019
20
Organized Konfusion's "Hate" and also, "Confrontations"
Jan 09th 2019
21
Also from that album, "Invetro."
Jan 09th 2019
22
      RE: Also from that album...(double edit)
Jan 09th 2019
24
Jay-Z - Soon You'll Understand
Jan 09th 2019
23
Slept on, but Action Bronson did his thing
Jan 09th 2019
25
Shit. DMX's "Damien"...no?
Jan 09th 2019
26
Damien, The Omen, and I think there might've been a 3rd one.
Jan 10th 2019
31
      There was. I forget the name but/because it wasn't very good.
Jan 11th 2019
39
Masta Ace (feat. Punch and Words)- Block Episode
Jan 09th 2019
28
Only briefly but Snoop "Murder was the Case"
Jan 09th 2019
29
Positive K - I Got A Man
Jan 10th 2019
32
K Dot-"Sing About Me/I'm Dying of Thirst"
Jan 10th 2019
33
^
Jan 11th 2019
37
DMX - The Convo
Jan 10th 2019
34
Jay Electronica - Shiny Suit Theory and Departure
Jan 10th 2019
35
"Clear Blue Skies" By Juggaknots
Jan 11th 2019
36
"Bitties In The BK Lounge" - De La Soul
Jan 11th 2019
38
Ghostface - The Watch
Jan 12th 2019
41
Kings of Pressure - tales from the darkside
Jan 12th 2019
42
Ice Cube - Who's the mack?
Jan 12th 2019
43
Ice-T - You played yourself
Jan 12th 2019
44
Donald D - F.B.I.
Jan 12th 2019
45
Kid N Play - slippin'
Jan 12th 2019
46
Brand Nubian - slow down
Jan 12th 2019
47
Salt-N-Pepa - let's talk about sex
Jan 12th 2019
48
Roxanne Shanté - Independent woman
Jan 12th 2019
49
Heavy D and the Boyz - letter to the future
Jan 12th 2019
50
Nasir OWNS this
Jan 12th 2019
51
Rapsody - Jesus Coming
Jan 13th 2019
52
The Coup - Pimps (Freestylin' at the fortune 500)
Jan 14th 2019
53
The Roots "The OtherSide"
Jan 14th 2019
54

Numba_33
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1. "Redman-Green Island and Souls of Mischief-Live and Let Live come to mind..."
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"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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18. "Tell Me Who Profits from Souls of Mischief counts as well."
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"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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2. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DO5SeHQa7g"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DO5SeHQa7g

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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4. "I blame the ADHD. "
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That one was front of mind when I was writing the post and I forgot to include it.

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3. "Gravediggaz - fairytalez"
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yep

  

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5. "Eminem - Stan"
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6. "Does Biggie-Gimme The Loot count?"
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*edit*

Along that similar type of song, Del has that song Worldwide where he raps with himself with his voice sped up as a Unicorn just like Biggie in Gimme The Loot.

Did Madlib have any songs with himself and Quasimoto on the same time?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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7. "I love and hate that Lupe song. Shit is too real. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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8. "Gang Starr - just to get a rep"
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yep

  

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17. "GOOD ONE!"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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9. "Wayne's Mona Lisa w/Kendrick is a good recent one."
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Edit - i guess it's two different MCs doing first person accounts of the same event, rashomon style. So not sure if that qualifies under the original posts definition. Still, interesting storytelling.

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10. "KMD - hard wit no hoe"
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yep

  

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11. "Big Daddy Kane - calling Mr. Welfare"
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yep

  

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12. "Lupe Fiasco - He Said She Said"
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*****

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27. "Smh...you ain’t read the post or the damn song title"
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Lol

  

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30. "Lmao 0 for 2. It was first thing that came to mind, had to get my shit i..."
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13. "Joe Budden - Three Sides To A Story"
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*****

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14. "Bobby Feeno (Arian Foster): A Friend, A Fan, A Kid"
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40. "Good call. That's a top 3 2018 album for me."
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Largely because it surprised the shit out of me.

But also largely because it's very fucking good.

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15. "Does "Singin Man" count?"
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It's three different perspectives, but also three different rappers.

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16. "Wu-Tang Clan - America"
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yep

  

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19. "denzel curry - "sick & tired""
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmaHHDQ4UHs

https://genius.com/Denzel-curry-sick-and-tired-lyrics

1st verse is the from the perspective of the robber, 2nd is the from the perspective of the victim

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20. "brenda's got a baby // millie pulled a pistol on santa"
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those two popped off top but there's a grip in the "art of storytelling" block

  

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21. "Organized Konfusion's "Hate" and also, "Confrontations""
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The ULTIMATE negation of everything.

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22. "Also from that album, "Invetro.""
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"Stray Bullet" qualifies as well.

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24. "RE: Also from that album...(double edit)"
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I was gonna mention those as well (especially "Stray Bullet") but what I got from the OP was that they wanted more of a back & forth, sorta like a discourse or exchange or whatever

...even though "Hate" really isn't that, so my bad

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23. "Jay-Z - Soon You'll Understand"
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I'm pretty sure each verse is the perspective of a different person, but if not neither of them is from Jay's

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25. "Slept on, but Action Bronson did his thing"
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"Hookers on the Point"

Three verses, first verse is a third person description of the street walker, next two are first person take place from the perspective of the pimp and the john. Ignore the video because as usual he plays it up for giggles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EONhJ9qvCPY

Made me re-evaluate him as an MC, even though he's done nothing nearly as woke/witty

  

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26. "Shit. DMX's "Damien"...no?"
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The ULTIMATE negation of everything.

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31. "Damien, The Omen, and I think there might've been a 3rd one."
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39. "There was. I forget the name but/because it wasn't very good."
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28. "Masta Ace (feat. Punch and Words)- Block Episode"
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https://youtu.be/VNborAlc7UA

  

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29. "Only briefly but Snoop "Murder was the Case""
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32. "Positive K - I Got A Man"
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Still trips me out that he was the female in that song.

shut up already, damn

  

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33. "K Dot-"Sing About Me/I'm Dying of Thirst""
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37. "^"
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34. "DMX - The Convo"
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**********
I should put that in a song

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35. "Jay Electronica - Shiny Suit Theory and Departure"
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Maybe not point of view but setting, time, and convo flow make these definitely count

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36. ""Clear Blue Skies" By Juggaknots"
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This was the first songs I thought about as soon as I read the post.

"Clear Blue Skies": https://youtu.be/9mMfavxyFUI


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38. ""Bitties In The BK Lounge" - De La Soul"
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does this count?

I know each part features a different main rapper, but the first part a de la emcee plays a customer and in the 2nd, it's the cashier.

  

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41. "Ghostface - The Watch"
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Ghostface has an argument with his watch and the watch disses Ghost’s status in the rap.

Around this time Ghost could do no wrong. He was constantly coming up with weird concepts.

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42. "Kings of Pressure - tales from the darkside"
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yep

  

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43. "Ice Cube - Who's the mack?"
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yep

  

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44. "Ice-T - You played yourself"
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yep

  

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45. "Donald D - F.B.I."
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yes

  

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c71
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46. "Kid N Play - slippin'"
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yep

  

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c71
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47. "Brand Nubian - slow down"
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yep

  

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c71
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48. "Salt-N-Pepa - let's talk about sex"
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yep

  

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c71
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49. "Roxanne Shanté - Independent woman"
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yep

  

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c71
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50. "Heavy D and the Boyz - letter to the future"
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yep

  

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melmag
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51. "Nasir OWNS this"
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DickGrayson
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52. "Rapsody - Jesus Coming"
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_______________________________________
http://thebums.bandcamp.com
http://dickgrayson526.podomatic.com

  

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mista k5
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53. "The Coup - Pimps (Freestylin' at the fortune 500)"
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i really wish there was an animated video for this

  

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54. "The Roots "The OtherSide" "
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Thought starts off in third person and switches to first person

  

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