Hello Coach,

I apologize for the delayed response. I didn't pay for a trophy because **** didn't want one. In his words, he didn't feel like he was really a part of the team. I totally understand the culture of football from growing up in Belle Glade, which is why I would prefer him to choose another sport. However, he loves playing football, but he's only played flag up until this year. ***** not aggressive (prayerfully this will change with growth and development), but he can catch and he can track a ball. ***** knows the abilities that he possesses and those that he doesn't, and he felt that instead of giving him the opportunity (when he's in the end zone and nobody is tracking him because they know who will get the ball), you all preferred to utilize the kids with raw talent. This is not a rant, but just wanted to give you some insight on his feelings. ***** will never be the kid that is excited to win just because he's on a winning team, but didn't contribute to the win; and he has never liked accepting trophies in win or lose situations (when there is really no second place). I respect his decision. While I truly appreciate the gesture, we will decline the trophy. I hope you have a blessed day.


***** - jit name redacted

So...this is the age old scenario of the parent thinking their kid is better than what he is. The kid played on his daddy’s FLAG football team for years...they were undefeated. I mean, I’ve never met a flag coach that wasn’t undefeated, but that’s another story. The kid could catch and he could run routes. He wasn’t aggressive at all. He wasn’t ready for the level of competition and would have been better served playing a level down.

I responded:

Thank you for your response. Wow. Didn’t know he felt that way. I wish he would have told me he felt this way during the season. I had fun teaching him the game and I hope him all the best in the future. I would really like for him to come back next year!

Coach

I know this was all dad. He wanted his son to be on the level with my studs, but your boy isn’t putting in the amount of work they have. They were here in spring workouts, they were here during the summer workouts, your boy wasn’t. He was given plenty of touches and sometimes you have to understand in tackle you have to run he ball. Can’t air it out on every play like flag. So no, your son will not get 5-8 targets a game.

First time I had a kid decline a trophy.

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Because his parents are only going to get more aggressive as he gets older. And I doubt quitting football to do something else will be an option for him if his dad's already THIS invested in his kid's little football career.

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it.
And it reads as if his dad believes "aggression" or lack of "aggression" is an issue...

Some folks are just stingy winners.
I know I was.

I didn't really like football or basketball because I'm basically not a team sports kinda guy...guess you could say I'm not a team player... *waits for Legs to come through and clown*......

Track & field, wrestling, biking....I throughly enjoyed the style of competition in those sports though.

he said in the email he wanted to steer him into other sports

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it may not really be like this but honestly that read like

"I know my son is a wimp, honestly he's such a wimp I know he can't cut it in this sport, it pains me greatly, thanks for the trophy but he doesn't deserve it. He thinks he's hot shit and so you should've given him more targets so he could get the crap knocked out of him until he toughens up or quits like I know he will"

i mean honestly that how that felt despite his actual words trying to frame it differently...

Lessons he could have taken:
-if there's issues, confront them head on
-work harder to make it an easier decision for coach to play you
-you actually did contribute and earned the trophy by being at all teh practices and making your team stronger
-sometimes you put in the work and don't get what you want (valuable life lesson), but focus on the positives and learn from the failures
-Do you actually like football? Wanna do something else?

Instead:
-coach was using you wrong, and so go ahead and be a baby and give back the trophy on some pussy passive-aggressive shit.


How old are these kids

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you handled that well man.. I'd pay to hear what you really wanted to say.

90% kid is getting healthy AJ Green type time if not targets, he had every opportunity and so did his pops. smh. I go back to what I said above this dad is off.

That e-mail sounds like it was written by a dude who grew up without a dad.

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Then I think about the parents and how much I'd hate having to put up with this stuff.

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just from playing, and seeing how the parents acted

and then from just observing some of my clients practices/games and talking to the parents.

HELL

NAW

one of my clients tried to get me to coach one of his bball teams and im like "all you do when we have meetings is bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch about the parents, and this is your passion. what makes you think i'd want to invite that stress into my life on a whim"

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Parents trying to fight at the banquets and at games.

Problem with our dad’s were they were all drunks so they would show up crunk as fuck trying to fight the refs.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

Now every last parent in every last sport thinks their kid is THISCLOSE to getting a full ride to college on whatever scholarship if not for this ref/coach/administrator who just hates their kid for no reason.

I have a lot of respect for people who can put up with this, but I couldn't.

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they could just save that dough and pay for college, and avoid a lot of fuckin stress.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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That was ALLLLLLLL str8 from pops...tryin to Todd Haley you lol

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Coolin...

Then i also remembered -

"Oh hell, Son, I was high that day. That doesn’t make any sense at all, you can be second, third, fourth… hell you can even be fifth."

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Coolin...

...but we're taking that trophy, though. Just so happens the banquet is this Sunday.

Anyway... my son is a monster at 14 years-old... 6'3,", 240lbs. Everyone, including me, were amped that he was playing high school football this year.

All in all it was a bad experience. His school's team was awful; poorly coached, poorly funded, unorganized, not much interest from the student body...etc. He started playing football his last two years of middle school, but he was still very green, and the high school team didn't do much to develop his skills. Just a lot of yelling about getting out there and getting mean, or hitting somebody.

He's already mentioned he doesn't want to play football next year.

He plays rugby on a rec league team, and he just made varsity lacrosse as the back-up goalie. He's amped about those sports and both are positive in the organization and level of coaching he's receiving.

I still have a spot on the mantle for that trophy.

Because that guy needs the sort of reality check that can't be given while maintaining your professionalism.

So, I just got back from my son's football banquet (see post #17), and the coach announced that since the team went 2-8, that didn't warrant giving out any trophies.

He gave out letters to the varsity lettermen, JV got certificates, and he acknowledged the kid who had a 4.0 GPA with a plaque.

He also gave those kids that got all-county recognition their trophies and medals from the county.

...everyone else got the gasface!

I'm positive this isn't the last we'll hear about this. Several parents looked stunned, but no one said anything at the banquet.

I don't know whether to get mad... I mean my kid didn't really do anything to deserve a trophy, or whether to respect the coach's gangster.

Oh well...on to lacrosse and rugby!

I have never received a trophy for just playing. I think maybe we got trophies in pee wee but they didn’t mean shit unless they were big trophies for doing something good.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

"We won't be handing out trophies this year unless we've earned them."

I'd sign up for a coach who presented that sort of ethic from jump.

it's not the super bowl, qualitatively all of the kids suck


if they're not good, trust me they know -- giving them a trophy doesn't change shit.

but now dad gets to pretend he's a big tough man and that's what the whole thing is about

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"I had fun teaching him the game"

And his dad is a coach too? That's that good shade. Well played.



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One thing I had to understand after coaching youth football for close to a decade that watching your kid perform is an extremely vulnerable situation for parents. Most people regardless how hard they try will never truly be objective about their kids. You have to take it with a grain of salt.

Those kind of emails always bothered me. I never judged myself by wins or losses per say. It was more about development of the kids for me and them having a positive experience and wanting to return to the program next year. I was more bothered by the kids that didn't return which was a small minority than the kids that returned every year and still playing to this day. I was out having a dinner with my family and happened to be seated next to a family of a former player. I didn't know it at the time but the kid had some developmental issues. Extremely quiet then and still to this day. Undersized but explosive and one of the most aggressive kids on the team. His mother approached me about him wanting "to do other things" which is always code for being a running back. I had 7 kids that were more suited for that than him. But none of them were as strong or aggressive on the defensive line. Mom basically told me the kid dam near suffered from PTSD from being on the defensive line and was overjoyed when he found a coach that allowed him to be a skill player. Messed up my whole meal. Still happy for him. Had he continued to play with me more than likely it would have been that way for a minute because it would have been the same kids on the team.

You have to do what is in the best interest for your team. Parents will always have to do what is in the best interest of their child. Today that probably means finding him a team where kids aren't as talented that will allow him to be featured. It used to mean having a determined spirit, putting in the work in the off season and showing the coach you now deserve those opportunities. Coaches, 9 times out of 10, will play the kids they believe give them the best chance to win. If that happens to be your child, he will play.