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Riot
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"Widows- aka Hollywood wasting good black talent vs audience snoozing"


  

          

Which I'm not saying is what happens in Widows

Quite the opposite...it's pretty good, unconventional story (too unconventional?), solid cast, commentary on trump, local politics, race dynamics, McQueen setting up some ill visuals, good action, aaaaand currently bombing in ticket sales. Opening night late show was like 20% full

I wanted to make a post abt the studios wasting the likes of viola, Angela Bassett, fishburne, and other top level actors' whole careers, either as sidekicks/supporting characters or just not happening period bc the "serious" scripts/ projects with Black leads don't get made.

But the studios' argument is always that nobody goes to those films. They run algorithms with different actors,genres, etc to see if its worth giving $40M to a black director and black female lead to do a bank heist movie, and if its not projected to make money, typically the film doesnt get made. when one does get made, and immediately flames out, it reinforces the studios' argument. So it's back to kevin hart/tyler Perry comedies & rom-com, sad "important" and/or white saviour historical films (greenbook), or nothing.

So is it still #oscarssowhite and folk mad about no representation,
or is this too much analysis off one data point,
or is the audience just waiting on the sidelines for the next tiffany hadish & madea, or Michael b Jordan's abs in another reboot?






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White movies flop on the regular so none of this should matter.
Nov 20th 2018
1
Honestly, I thought it was mis-marketed. They made it look too serious.
Nov 20th 2018
2
it has so many actors in it
Nov 24th 2018
11
Its being distributed like an art house film.
Nov 20th 2018
3
am i wrong in feeling like Heat and Set it Off had a baby?
Nov 21st 2018
4
Made me want to just go and watch Heat
Nov 21st 2018
7
it was good.
Nov 21st 2018
9
      bruh.
Nov 24th 2018
12
i don't see an audience for Widows
Nov 21st 2018
5
Divorced and single women?
Nov 21st 2018
6
My guess is, people who like good movies.
Nov 21st 2018
10
I prolly would have been really interested in this if not for Michelle R...
Nov 21st 2018
8
Just saw it.Viola Davis should never carry a movie. It was good/decent
Nov 24th 2018
13
It was DOPE.
Nov 24th 2018
14
joint was pretty good...nice twist...I was pleased
Dec 09th 2018
15

81 DUN
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Tue Nov-20-18 07:48 PM

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1. "White movies flop on the regular so none of this should matter."
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Brad Pitts last movies flopped he still gets to do what ever he wants basically. They make so many movies that don’t do anything money wise this should never come up as an issue

  

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Frank Longo
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Tue Nov-20-18 07:52 PM

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2. "Honestly, I thought it was mis-marketed. They made it look too serious."
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When, in fact, it's a funny, pulpy, violent slow-burn thriller with some complexities sprinkled into the mix.

The movie in the trailer seemed incredibly grim and Capital-D Dramatic. People don't want to see that shit in their heist movies. They want fun, they want scenery chewing, they want twists. This movie has ALL of that.

Why, for instance, did they not mention it was co-written by the creator of Gone Girl? That feels like a no-duh marketing decision.

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Sat Nov-24-18 05:00 AM

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11. "it has so many actors in it"
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that practically all of them have their own following to an extent and I was like "wait, THEY'RE in this?"


the whole movie

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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Castro
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Tue Nov-20-18 07:54 PM

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3. "Its being distributed like an art house film. "
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Thats why it ain't making money.

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jdub1313
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Wed Nov-21-18 11:36 AM

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4. "am i wrong in feeling like Heat and Set it Off had a baby?"
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i saw it last weekend (ATL) and the theater was packed. i loved it but I don't see a lot of movies these days.

Only thing it was missing was the super loud gun battle in downtown, but i kinda wanna go see it again to support.

  

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ProgressiveSound
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Wed Nov-21-18 02:04 PM

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7. "Made me want to just go and watch Heat "
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9. "it was good."
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it did remind me of set it off. not the whole movie, but just a scene or two.

never saw heat.

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cgonz00cc
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Sat Nov-24-18 05:21 AM

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12. "bruh."
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>never saw heat.
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BrooklynWHAT
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Wed Nov-21-18 11:50 AM

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5. "i don't see an audience for Widows"
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it looks like a good movie (cast looks A1) but the first thing i thought was "who is this for?" i'm surprised it got made tbh.

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Wed Nov-21-18 12:44 PM

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6. "Divorced and single women? "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Cold Truth
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Wed Nov-21-18 10:52 PM

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10. "My guess is, people who like good movies. "
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It's got some flaws, but good movies have flaws.

  

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kevlar skully
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Wed Nov-21-18 06:56 PM

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8. "I prolly would have been really interested in this if not for Michelle R..."
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Wed Nov-21-18 06:57 PM by kevlar skully

  

          

Michelle Rodriguez


I can't stand her and her being cast made me think: "Do I even like this writer/director?"

"12 Years a Slave" is probably very fine but isn't at all the kind of films I'm dying to see.

In a year with folks pumped to see "Black Panther", "Sorry To Bother You" and "Blackkklansman"; if "Widows" didn't have real hype around it; that's not on audiences, Imo

  

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81 DUN
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13. "Just saw it.Viola Davis should never carry a movie. It was good/decent "
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Castro
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14. "It was DOPE. "
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Theater was packed. I am going to see it again.

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15. "joint was pretty good...nice twist...I was pleased "
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