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Subject: "Memba when folks use to argue whether Tupac or Biggie was GOAT?" Previous topic | Next topic
Buddy_Gilapagos
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"Memba when folks use to argue whether Tupac or Biggie was GOAT?"


  

          

We were bugging right?

No one is still arguing that today right?


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I wasn't arguing it then
Nov 06th 2018
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Man, I still see folks claiming that one or the other is the greatest ev...
Nov 06th 2018
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That's an over-35 discussion anyway.
Nov 06th 2018
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The same arguments had on Okp were happening on almost any other
Nov 07th 2018
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it was an under 45 thing too...
Nov 07th 2018
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agreed...I used to be all alone irl when I would Biggie>>Pac
Nov 08th 2018
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the goat is Chill Rob G
Nov 06th 2018
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the struggle for power, lol
Nov 06th 2018
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back when greatest rapper was a thing to care about
Nov 06th 2018
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Tupac was never in that discussion for me. Biggie barely
Nov 06th 2018
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KRS-1 or Rakim
Nov 06th 2018
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Not really since the 21st century
Nov 06th 2018
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I think to the average rap fan that’s 30+, they still are
Nov 06th 2018
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But Canibus said it SO emphatically
Nov 06th 2018
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Hov vs Nas has replaced it.
Nov 07th 2018
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Was listening to Pac yesterday, still my favorite
Nov 08th 2018
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Memba Transformers vs GoBots?
Nov 08th 2018
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ultimate warrior
Nov 08th 2018
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to the casual fan i think thats still valid
Nov 08th 2018
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I'm saying, if we are having the discussion today you have to start with
Nov 16th 2018
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Big and Pac were the the biggest stars when rap became mainstream
Nov 16th 2018
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it's a strange argument, in a way
Nov 16th 2018
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The Real
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1. "I wasn't arguing it then"
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Marbles
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Tue Nov-06-18 03:08 PM

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2. "Man, I still see folks claiming that one or the other is the greatest ev..."
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Especially when their birthdays or anniversary of their deaths come around.

When I hear that, I assume they just haven't listened to a lot of hip-hop.

  

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Teknontheou
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Tue Nov-06-18 03:09 PM

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3. "That's an over-35 discussion anyway."
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The anti-Pac sentiment was largely an only-on-OKP thing anyway (and I say that as someone who could take or leave Pac).

I get the impression most of the kids today, aside from the few Heads among them, couldn't care less about the old standards or about digging into any of the music from before maybe the year 2005, or so.

  

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12. "The same arguments had on Okp were happening on almost any other"
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hip hop board.
Nothing was ever "only on okp"

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13. "it was an under 45 thing too..."
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...no sane person would put Biggie or Pac over greats like Rakim, G Rap, Kane or KRS ...Biggie was one thing, but most NYC/TriState heads didnt care much for 2Pac, that goes for Radio & Mixtape DJ's Underground or Commercial ..Pac didnt get props over here


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ambient1
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15. "agreed...I used to be all alone irl when I would Biggie>>Pac"
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prolly moreso because of locale but...yeah

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4. "the goat is Chill Rob G"
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10. "the struggle for power, lol"
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Selah
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5. "back when greatest rapper was a thing to care about"
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can it be that it was all so simple indeed

  

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LAbeathustla
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6. "Tupac was never in that discussion for me. Biggie barely"
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Selah
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7. "KRS-1 or Rakim"
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with LL Cool J considered as honorable mention for versatility and longevity (this last being one of my favorite arguments because most will reject it then have to defer when actually hearing the case for it)

  

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8. "Not really since the 21st century"
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I think it was a combination of distance form their deaths allowing for a more sober analysis of their careers and the fact that other legitimate GOAT candidates emerged (Jay, Nas, etc.)

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DJR
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9. "I think to the average rap fan that’s 30+, they still are "
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The more hardcore fan that you find on OKP, not so much.

  

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11. "But Canibus said it SO emphatically"
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BIG doesn't really have any material/content variance to take the top spot but he only got to produce 2 albums so who knows what could have been

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Castro
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14. "Hov vs Nas has replaced it. "
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Playa_Politician
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Thu Nov-08-18 11:32 AM

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16. "Was listening to Pac yesterday, still my favorite"
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can't give him GOAT because of the talent that has come after him, too many great artists out there with longer track records.

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17. "Memba Transformers vs GoBots?"
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Hulk Hogan vs Roddy Piper



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19. "ultimate warrior"
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mista k5
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18. "to the casual fan i think thats still valid"
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i think even kids recognize pac as "the best" with ones a bit more in the know will give it to biggie.

then it probably jumps to drake.

  

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Buddy_Gilapagos
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20. "I'm saying, if we are having the discussion today you have to start with"
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Snoop, Jay or Nas right? That is, dudes who have been doing it well for 20 years. It's crazy to have the discussion about dudes with so short a catalouge. Am I right?!?!


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21. "Big and Pac were the the biggest stars when rap became mainstream"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Garhart Poppwell
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22. "it's a strange argument, in a way"
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it made more sense as an argument then than it does now, but honestly it should be the other way around because these discussions get more clear and legitimate over time.

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