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MEAT
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"Julian Assange has been in the Ecuadorian Embassy for over six years now"


  

          

I just don’t get it.
A small room with limited amenities and no outdoors
What’s his end game?

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He doesn't want to be convicted of crimes
Oct 16th 2018
1
Oh man, if they gave him a Kramer-esque neighbor in another closet?
Oct 16th 2018
3
Man, some days..weeks even...probably months (winter)...i'd be perfectly
Oct 16th 2018
2
He’s in a room for an indefinite stay
Oct 16th 2018
4
yeah...this sounds like jail minus the gym
Oct 16th 2018
5
RE: yeah...this sounds like jail minus the gym
Oct 16th 2018
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I mean, you're also not around a bunch of dangerous
Oct 17th 2018
11
      Clearly I’m exaggerating but he still locked himself up
Oct 18th 2018
12
He sentenced himself. More importantly, what's Ecuador's end game here?
Oct 16th 2018
7
Former president was a fan, granted asylum, made him a citizen
Oct 16th 2018
8
      he's just this houseguest nobody there asked for
Oct 19th 2018
15
embassy's ain't safe no more
Oct 17th 2018
9
this.
Nov 16th 2018
20
lol they are saying he needs to take better care of his bathroom and cat
Oct 17th 2018
10
Now he's suing Ecuador lol
Oct 19th 2018
13
the worst guest of all time
Oct 19th 2018
16
Wasn’t he or is he still dating Pamela Anderson while in the embassy
Oct 19th 2018
14
Justice Department is preparing to prosecute WikiLeaks founder Julian As...
Nov 15th 2018
17
wait. the admin that basically got in because of his leaks
Nov 15th 2018
18
      Not trying to conspiracy-theorize, but...
Nov 16th 2018
19
      ^^^^ by the way...
Apr 11th 2019
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           assange fanboys with egg on their face.
Apr 11th 2019
25
Is he a hero, criminal or somewhere in between?
Apr 11th 2019
22
He's a shitty person who is hated by other shitty people for shitty reas...
Apr 11th 2019
23
no they turned on him when wikileaks became a russian cutout.
Apr 11th 2019
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Ass-Sponge is a clown IMO
Apr 11th 2019
27
hes being charged in a hacking conspiracy.
Apr 11th 2019
28
      hacking government computers in conspiracy with Manning...
Apr 11th 2019
29
did some valuable things, did some fucked up things
Apr 11th 2019
30
yep. and no better iteration of the US Government Evil Empire
Apr 11th 2019
31
he's a dirty criminal
Apr 11th 2019
32
cnn reporting more charges on the way from doj.
Apr 11th 2019
26
Ecuadorians are saying he would put feces on the wall
Apr 11th 2019
33
bruh was effectively in solitary confinement, so not shocking
Apr 11th 2019
34
dude lookin like Grand Maester Pycelle
Apr 11th 2019
35
Reports have Assange close to mental and physical
Nov 25th 2019
36
because they're complicit af
Nov 25th 2019
37
complicit in what, be specific
Nov 25th 2019
43
(contrary to what wikileaks tells you, there's a reason assange coverage
Nov 25th 2019
45
No tears for him he helped the Republicans
Nov 25th 2019
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      RE: No tears for...a human being dying in prison...w/o charges...?
Nov 25th 2019
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           No tears for white privilege, he spent 7 years in a embassy
Nov 25th 2019
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                There is a white privilege element to, "jail is killing this poor man!"
Nov 25th 2019
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                     Right..now consider how that reflects on people w/o privilege, status, e...
Nov 25th 2019
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                          he's not being charged with espionage for publishing
Nov 25th 2019
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                               RE: he's not being charged with espionage for publishing
Nov 25th 2019
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You want to be a hero, do what heroes do
Nov 26th 2019
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lol @ so many Americans cheering for this man's execution
Nov 26th 2019
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Helping Trump is working against the NSA Surveillance state ? hmmmm
Nov 26th 2019
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1. "He doesn't want to be convicted of crimes"
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Tue Oct-16-18 11:28 AM by handle

          

And at least he has some control over his situation. Even if the "control" is just his ability to change it (but go to jail.)

Also;I agree with whoever said that this would make a great basic plot for a sitcom.

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3. "Oh man, if they gave him a Kramer-esque neighbor in another closet?"
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>Also;I agree with whoever said that this would make a great
>basic plot for a sitcom.

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2. "Man, some days..weeks even...probably months (winter)...i'd be perfectly"
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content being in my house ALL the time...
assuming i'm not a prisoner and that I have food and necessary creature comforts at my disposal.

  

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MEAT
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4. "He’s in a room for an indefinite stay "
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It’s not even a bedroom. It’s a converted office.
I’m in an office most of my day and I barely can deal with that.

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5. "yeah...this sounds like jail minus the gym"
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i don't get it either

http://www.youtube.com/user/gumzization
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MEAT
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6. "RE: yeah...this sounds like jail minus the gym"
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https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/jpgdq7/julian-assange-wikileaks-ecuadorian-embassy

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11. "I mean, you're also not around a bunch of dangerous"
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criminals/Rapists.

That's a W

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12. "Clearly I’m exaggerating but he still locked himself up"
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For 6 whole years and no end in sight

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7. "He sentenced himself. More importantly, what's Ecuador's end game here?"
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It's their sovereign territory, they can do whatever the fuck they want
Obviously it seems they're fine with having him indefinitely. My question is why?
What do they get out of this?
They've been giving him food, clothing, and shelter for 6 years.
For what purpose?

  

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8. "Former president was a fan, granted asylum, made him a citizen"
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Which complicated the new regime from being able to kick him out. It is a mess.

  

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15. "he's just this houseguest nobody there asked for"
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but they can't really ask him to leave without it being embarassing soooo

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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9. "embassy's ain't safe no more"
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20. "this."
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10. "lol they are saying he needs to take better care of his bathroom and cat"
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I don’t think they will let him stay forever.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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13. "Now he's suing Ecuador lol"
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this is not going to end well for him.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/julian-assange-ecuador-lawsuit-sues-wikileaks-london-embassy-a8592201.html

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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16. "the worst guest of all time"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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14. "Wasn’t he or is he still dating Pamela Anderson while in the embassy"
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Or was she just a supporter of his? I know she was on a free Assange kick for a while but I thought they were also dating.

2018 celebrity politics is crazy.

Kanye West, Jenna Jameson and Kristen Swanson (original Buffy the Vampie Slayer) all support Trump and the TOP. It’s a wild world out there.

  

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17. "Justice Department is preparing to prosecute WikiLeaks founder Julian As..."
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The Justice Department is preparing to prosecute WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and is increasingly optimistic it will be able to get him into a U.S. courtroom, per @aviswanatha @duberyan.
https://t.co/oAQNkCS479

https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1063208448471506946

  

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18. "wait. the admin that basically got in because of his leaks"
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is gonna try to put him in jail? LMAOOOOOOOOOO

  

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19. "Not trying to conspiracy-theorize, but..."
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the news today is that the Justice Department 'accidentally' revealed that he'd already been charged. Equador was getting ready to turn him over to the Brits, but this news might scuttle all that and cause them to continue protecting him.

Considering the value that he could have to the Mueller investigation, and the extent to which he could be motivated to talk, it seems like the executive branch would be very motivated to keep him locked up in a foreign embassy.

  

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21. "^^^^ by the way..."
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Ass Sponge got nabbed, Ecuador let him loose to the UK.

btw, the Trump DOJ is prosecuting him for his role in the shit that was exposed by Chelsea Manning re: the Iraq War, NOT for his "Russia" shit (which the Hillbots and erstwhile centrists are cheering him about).

it's important to note that the Obama DOJ opted NOT to prosecute claiming the sanctity of the "free press" on THAT matter. (now I know they were still mad, but that was their position)

so yeah... fuck Ass-Sponge, but FUCK this.

2019 -- the year I had to defend motherfuckers that are otherwise indefensible

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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25. "assange fanboys with egg on their face."
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they shit on obama.

obama went light on assange and commuted the sentence of chelsea manning.

now under the trump administration...assange getting pushed out by ecuador (with american pressure) into a criminal indictment and chelsea manning is sitting in jail (again) for failure to comply with a grand jury.

the 'civil libertarian' left looking more and more like the self-defeating cultural right.

  

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22. "Is he a hero, criminal or somewhere in between?"
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I know folks loved his leaks but once the leaks didn’t benefit their politics they turned on him

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23. "He's a shitty person who is hated by other shitty people for shitty reas..."
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and he is supported by a different set of also shitty people for different, but still shitty, reasons.

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24. "no they turned on him when wikileaks became a russian cutout."
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27. "Ass-Sponge is a clown IMO"
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and that has to do with everything he's done since the war leaks.

The war leaks were good. Necessary (UNFORTUNATELY...)

but the dude himself is an asswipe. I hate having to defend him in any capacity, but I can't support the Dolt 45 DOJ's authoritarian move here.

especially since even the Obama DOJ said "nah"

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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28. "hes being charged in a hacking conspiracy."
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theyre saying he aided manning in hacking govt computers.

theyre not prosecuting him for publishing govt materials.

  

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Dr Claw
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29. "hacking government computers in conspiracy with Manning..."
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...which hints that it is about the Iraq stuff in the end.

that's the only thing I got. We'll see, but I didn't ever think he was behind the password cracking. Manning went to jail for that and letting the stuff go.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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30. "did some valuable things, did some fucked up things"
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but it's about to be a bad day for him. If i was in his situation, i'd be looking to off myself. US gov, about to go full evil empire on him.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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31. "yep. and no better iteration of the US Government Evil Empire"
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than what we have now.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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32. "he's a dirty criminal"
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literally. some of the results of his work could be seen as good but I don't think he ever had good intentions.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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26. "cnn reporting more charges on the way from doj."
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https://edition.cnn.com/uk/live-news/julian-assange-arrest-dle-gbr-intl/h_7391a4712e2c57629a4f9c67a9d0833a

sounds like they got a superseding indictment ready when touches down in america.

since its not part of the manning info...i wonder if its related to 2016.

  

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33. "Ecuadorians are saying he would put feces on the wall"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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34. "bruh was effectively in solitary confinement, so not shocking"
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not that it's a good thing, but it's a gross detail without context.

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35. "dude lookin like Grand Maester Pycelle "
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https://twitter.com/Ruptly/status/1116277306161618944?s=19

  

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36. "Reports have Assange close to mental and physical "
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Health failure

While the sexual assault investigation has now been dropped for the 3rd time

Dude’s essentially being sentenced to death...for skipping bail...on a trial/charges that never happened

Should be a compelling biopic

US MSM silence is alarming.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/nov/25/julian-assanges-health-is-so-bad-he-could-die-in-prison-say-60-doctors

Julian Assange's health is so bad he 'could die in prison', say 60 doctors
Group’s open letter calls for Wikileaks founder to be moved from London high-security jail to hospital

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Julian Assange is fighting a US bid to extradite him from prison in Britain under the Espionage Act. Sixty doctors have called for him to be moved from jail to hospital, due to deteriorating health. Photograph: Peter Nicholls/Reuters
More than 60 doctors have written an open letter saying they fear Julian Assange’s health is so bad that the WikiLeaks founder could die inside a top-security British jail.

The 48-year-old Australian is still fighting a US bid to extradite him from Britain on charges filed under the Espionage Act that could see him given a sentence of up to 175 years in a US prison.

In the letter to the British home secretary, Priti Patel, the doctors called for Assange to be moved from Belmarsh prison in southeast London to a university teaching hospital.

They based their assessment on “harrowing eyewitness accounts” of his 21 October court appearance in London and a 1 November report by Nils Melzer, the United Nations special rapporteur on torture.


Julian Assange to remain in jail pending extradition to US
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The independent UN rights expert said Assange’s “continued exposure to arbitrariness and abuse may soon end up costing his life”.

Assange used WikiLeaks to publish classified military and diplomatic files in 2010 about US bombing campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq that proved highly embarrassing to Washington.

“We write this open letter, as medical doctors, to express our serious concerns about the physical and mental health of Julian Assange,” the doctors said in their 16-page open letter.

They said they had “concerns about Mr Assange’s fitness” to go through the full extradition hearing, which is set for February.

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“Mr Assange requires urgent expert medical assessment of both his physical and psychological state of health,” the wrote.

“Any medical treatment indicated should be administered in a properly equipped and expertly staffed university teaching hospital (tertiary care).

“Were such urgent assessment and treatment not to take place, we have real concerns, on the evidence currently available, that Mr Assange could die in prison. The medical situation is thereby urgent. There is no time to lose.”

The doctors are from the United States, Australia, Britain, Sweden, Italy, Germany, Sri Lanka, Poland.

At his first appearance in public for six months, in a court hearing last month, Assange seemed frail.

He also appeared confused whenever he was asked to talk at Westminster magistrates’ court in London.

He seemed to have difficulties recalling his birth date, and at the end of the hearing told district judge Vanessa Baraitser that he had not understood what had happened in court.

He also complained about the conditions in which he was being kept in Belmarsh. It was his first public appearance since being dramatically dragged from Ecuador’s embassy in April.

Swedish prosecutors said last Tuesday they had dropped their investigation into a 2010 rape allegation, even though they found the plaintiff’s claim “credible”.

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37. "because they're complicit af"
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>US MSM silence is alarming.

  

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43. "complicit in what, be specific"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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45. "(contrary to what wikileaks tells you, there's a reason assange coverage"
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has dropped off)


literally every bit of coverage ever dedicated to dude, and wikileaks

has completely flopped.

every movie

every editorial

every bit of news.

people do not give a shit about that guy.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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38. "No tears for him he helped the Republicans"
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He's getting MSM coverage, the Washington Post put something out.

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39. "RE: No tears for...a human being dying in prison...w/o charges...?"
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I think your ire is misdirected

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40. "No tears for white privilege, he spent 7 years in a embassy"
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and had the charges dropped after he got forced out of the embassy.

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41. "There is a white privilege element to, "jail is killing this poor man!" "
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There are a lot of people in jail. It's as harmful for all those people.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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42. "Right..now consider how that reflects on people w/o privilege, status, e..."
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I mean, if yt privilege can't save you from being imprisoned

w/o charges

tortured

and now close to failing mental and physical health

You have no consideration for how that reflects on people who don't occupy the same station in life as Assange?

Are you saying if it happens to a yt person it's deserving and we should only consider injustices imposed on minorities?

I get that he's not exactly a likeable person

But as always with these stories

I feel like you're missing the precedent that this sets

He's being charged with espionage for publishing

You're basically okaying legal action against whistleblowers, as in the current impeachment trial

So you'd be okay with the Trump whistleblower being imprisoned and tortured?

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44. "he's not being charged with espionage for publishing"
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whatever you think of him..it's not that

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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46. "RE: he's not being charged with espionage for publishing"
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https://theintercept.com/2019/05/24/julian-assange-espionage-act-us-extradition/

"That’s because the new charges relate not to any arcane interpretation of computer hacking laws, but to WikiLeaks’ publication of hundreds of thousands of American military reports and diplomatic cables provided by the former Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning in 2010."

Assange claims that he received the encrypted information from Manning

He had to decode the data

He did not hack the US military or assist Manning

He received the data, decoded and published.

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47. "You want to be a hero, do what heroes do"
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He put lives at risk with his actions. If he thought they were righteous then fine, but you should be prepared to live with the consequences.

  

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48. "lol @ so many Americans cheering for this man's execution "
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I didn't realize we had so many ardent defendants of the NSA Surveillance state.

Who needs privacy and government accountability though, right?

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49. "Helping Trump is working against the NSA Surveillance state ? hmmmm"
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>I didn't realize we had so many ardent defendants of the NSA
>Surveillance state.
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>Who needs privacy and government accountability though,
>right?
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Helping Trump and Republicans get elected protects privacy and holds the government accountable ? Really ?

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