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MEAT
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"John Kelly is an Irish Catholic who grew up in 1950s Boston"


  

          

That’s all I have to contribute today.

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John Kelly expected to resign in coming days: CNN
Dec 07th 2018
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Trump trying to distract today. Announces Kelly resignation, Barr nomina...
Dec 07th 2018
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      FLOOD THE AIRWAVES
Dec 07th 2018
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Dude has been "about to resign" for the past year lol
Dec 07th 2018
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It's official now. Trump announces John Kelly is leaving
Dec 08th 2018
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Who will be the new Media Designated Adult In The Room?
Dec 07th 2018
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might be willing to bet JK been working with Mueller in real time
Dec 07th 2018
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interesting timing between the stories.
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these boston mick bastards dropping like flies
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?
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      sorry, sarcasm
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           got ya
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           I live in Dorchester now !
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           I posted this around the time of defending child kidnapping at the borde...
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                RE: I posted this around the time of defending child kidnapping at the b...
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                i sort of see your point but not entirely
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lied and destroyed his rep in the Niger ambush/widow-gate
Dec 07th 2018
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So, who from Fox news will be replacing Kelly?
Dec 08th 2018
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pence chief of staff.
Dec 08th 2018
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the media might really be the enemy of the people lol.
Dec 08th 2018
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Folks/media really want to pretend
Dec 08th 2018
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media refuses to acknowledge how rotten the entire party is.
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add to that, his rep can only improve
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      oh his image will def be rehabbed with the help of the media.
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trumps next chief of staff pick is already resigning lmaooooo
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dude aint trying to be the next Vader admiral
Dec 10th 2018
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there's never not a tweet
Dec 09th 2018
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trump names mick mulvaney 'acting' chief of staff lol.
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Damn, you barely beat me to it on both points.
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Also, didn't that last guy turn down the job when...
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yeah trump prolly thought he was gonna have folks beating down his door.
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apparently trump forgot to tell mulvaney.
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      lollllll
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New Mick to take over.
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lol @ the subject line
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help me out, guys
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j0510
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1. "John Kelly expected to resign in coming days: CNN"
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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/420206-john-kelly-expected-to-resign-in-coming-days-pence-chief-of-staff

John Kelly expected to resign in coming days: CNN
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 12/07/18 07:59 AM EST

CNN is reporting that White House chief of staff John Kelly will resign in the coming days.

White House sources told CNN on Friday that Kelly's relationship with the president, often reported as tumultuous, is no longer seen as "sustainable" and will likely lead to Kelly's ouster in the near future.

Nick Ayers, a longtime aide to Vice President Pence currently serving as Pence's chief of staff, is being mentioned as a potential replacement, according to CNN.

Rumors of Kelly's departure have been frequent, yet he has held on to his position.

Seeking to quell similar reports, the White House over the summer said tensions between Trump and Kelly has cleared and that the chief of staff had agreed to stay on through the 2020 presidential cycle.

The former secretary of Trump's Department of Homeland Security, Kelly joined the White House in July of last year following the resignation of former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus.

In April, Kelly issued a public statement denying reports from NBC News that he referred to the president as an "idiot" during conversations with colleagues and mocked Trump's lack of policy knowledge.

“I spend more time with the president than anyone else and we have an incredibly candid and strong relationship," Kelly said at the time.

"I am committed to the president, his agenda, and our country," he added. "This is another pathetic attempt to smear people close to President Trump and distract from the administration’s many successes."

Ayers, who joined Pence's White House team last year, has long been considered a potential successor to Kelly and previously served as Pence's chief political strategist when Pence was governor of Indiana.

Updated at 8:46 a.m.

  

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2. "Trump trying to distract today. Announces Kelly resignation, Barr nomina..."
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and goes on twitter tirade all because this is happening today.

Reminder of today's events:

* Mueller and SDNY prosecutors detail Michael Cohen's cooperation

* Mueller outlines Manafort's "crimes and lies" that led to the cancellation of his cooperation agreement

* Comey goes behind closed doors with the Judiciary and Oversight Committees

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1071011443934355458

  

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3. "FLOOD THE AIRWAVES"
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4. "Dude has been "about to resign" for the past year lol"
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I guess the reports have to be right eventually

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15. "It's official now. Trump announces John Kelly is leaving"
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>I guess the reports have to be right eventually


Trump announces John Kelly is leaving

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/08/politics/donald-trump-john-kelly/index.html

  

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5. "Who will be the new Media Designated Adult In The Room?"
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Jared Kushner?

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6. "might be willing to bet JK been working with Mueller in real time"
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he definitely was interviewed by him..Trump is so fkd

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Reeq
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7. "interesting timing between the stories."
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same thing happened with don mcgahn.

  

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fif
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8. "these boston mick bastards dropping like flies "
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first whitey loses his tongue and eyeballs now kelly looks to be out of a job. fucking micks.

  

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9. "?"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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10. "sorry, sarcasm"
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half my family is irish. i lived for a while in the neighborhood where Kelly grew up. i have talked to people on both sides of the busing. the idea insinuated in the OP that we can know something absolutely about Kelly based on his being an irish catholic raised in boston, is not a good one.

  

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11. "got ya"
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i was born in Dorchester but I moved when I was little.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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13. "I live in Dorchester now !"
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Adams Corner. Nice little neighborhood.

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14. "I posted this around the time of defending child kidnapping at the borde..."
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Or maybe when he was attacking grieving widows, or being found to be the fucking architect of some other racist shit. Dude is levels worse than Stephen Miller and gets a drop of the shit for it.

That dude could be a virulent racist seemed to be out of bounds at the time
But when you break people down to some core elements it helps see past all the glitz and shit
It’s not ok to stereotype people overall
I chose to do it, even knowing and feeling that it’s not ok, as a means to break up the bullshit

Because black and brown people get stereotyped all the time by these same people
Barack Obama can’t just be a black man from Chicago, he HAS to be described by his credentials for a large part of society fo even quasi recognize his humanity
Too often for us we need that. When a guy gets shot, it’s church singer or military man, father of x ... can’t just label them a black person from x because that’s enough to look past
And knowing that’s OUR narrative for MY folks, I choose to weaponize it in the reverse
I make a choice at times to strip that decorated defense of white people when they’re being inhumane, and get to hide behind the one thing that gives my folks humanity in their eyes. So when I do use these words, I use them consciously for that very intent.
And I understand that utilizing those words against a specific person unfortunately also impugns all people with those traits, I simply choose not play the game of being better than that, when my folks implicitly aren’t afforded the converse

This is my reasoning,

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23. "RE: I posted this around the time of defending child kidnapping at the b..."
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How else are we supposed to describe his gaffe-laden, controversy-filled 17 months in charge? This was a chief of staff who told Fox News that “the lack of the ability to compromise led to the Civil War,” while praising the pro-slavery Confederate general Robert E. Lee as an “honorable man”; who protected and promoted White House staff secretary Rob Porter — a man accused of domestic abuse by both of his ex-wives — and described him as a man of “true integrity and honor, and I can’t say enough good things about him”; who repeatedly misled the press about what he knew about Porter and when he knew it, which led to one of his White House colleagues calling him a “big fat liar”; who claimed the “vast majority” of undocumented immigrants “don’t integrate well” and “don’t have skills”; who described immigrants who were eligible for DACA but had failed to apply for it as “too lazy to get off their asses”; who said he wanted to reduce the number of refugees admitted into the United States to “between zero and one”; who defended the separation of migrant children from their parents on the grounds that the kids would be “put into foster care or whatever” and bragged that the “big name of the game is deterrence”; who signed a “Cabinet order” authorizing the (potentially illegal) use of lethal force by troops at the border; who lamented that women were no longer treated as “sacred and looked upon with great honor” but who was also accused of suggesting women were more emotional than men; who breached security protocols by firing White House aide Omarosa Manigault in the Situation Room and threatening her in the process; who boasted to Manigault on a secret recording that everyone in the White House “works for me and not the president”; who made a series of false accusations against black member of Congress, Frederica Wilson, and then swore he would “never apologize” for lying about her; and who shamelessly allowed Trump to use his dead son to attack former President Barack Obama.

https://theintercept.com/2018/12/09/john-kelly-was-a-bully-bigot-and-liar-for-trump-goodbye-and-good-riddance/

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26. "i sort of see your point but not entirely"
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if it makes sense to you, fine. i'm not mad.

i'm not defending kelly. he seems like a schmuck. whether he restrained trump from acting even worse, i don't think we can say at this point. but as you demonstrated, kelly has some fucked up views.

  

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12. "lied and destroyed his rep in the Niger ambush/widow-gate"
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but what specifically is rumored to be the issue this time?
considering its not 2020


unless it feels like 2020 ie 'the end' is near, and kelly doesnt want to be in the room when trump forces "his" AG to end the probe, fire the fed reserve chairman, and arrest hilary, marcon, and robert dinero



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16. "So, who from Fox news will be replacing Kelly?"
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17. "pence chief of staff."
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wait until the trump/pence breakup. should be entertaining.

  

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Reeq
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18. "the media might really be the enemy of the people lol."
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https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/1071478161634979841

just creating fan fiction completely divorced from reality.
like we didnt have 24/7 news coverage of the trump administration during john kellys tenure.

  

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19. "Folks/media really want to pretend"
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Things are normal and the “good” republicans are/will
keep him in check.

As if Trump isn’t a walking, golfing, kfc eating physical
manifestation of the party.

He is the GOP.


That’s why you, myself, and a ton of people doubt
anything will happen to Trump- GOP controls the
senate, he’s free like OJ all day.

  

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21. "media refuses to acknowledge how rotten the entire party is."
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we have republicans killing democracy in broad daylight in nc, wi, mi, ga, nd, etc and the media is talking about how a rogue force named donald trump highjacked the honorable party of george hw bush temporarily before its saved by john kasich and nikki haley.

  

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20. "add to that, his rep can only improve"
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since trump's replacements are always a step down.

  

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22. "oh his image will def be rehabbed with the help of the media."
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colin powell helped engineer the violent takeover of a sovereign nation and massacre of its citizens based on a complete lie but now you have people on here talking about him running for president as a democrat lol.

  

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24. "trumps next chief of staff pick is already resigning lmaooooo"
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https://twitter.com/nick_ayers/status/1071879332283453440

now trump is considering the head of the freedom caucus. a sitting congressman lol.
https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1071878230913761290

  

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27. "dude aint trying to be the next Vader admiral "
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Pence probably told him a long time ago, he'll be chief of staff to President Pence in a few months once Trump is gone lol

  

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25. "there's never not a tweet"
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/156829591267328000

  

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Reeq
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28. "trump names mick mulvaney 'acting' chief of staff lol."
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this is mulvaneys *third* job in the trump administration.

  

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30. "Damn, you barely beat me to it on both points."
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And you resisted the one-liner about his name.

  

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31. "Also, didn't that last guy turn down the job when..."
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when Trump refused to let him do it on an interim basis? Guess Trump doesn't have as many options as he thought he had.

  

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33. "yeah trump prolly thought he was gonna have folks beating down his door."
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instead we get him and chris christie playing the '*i* quit *you*' game in the media.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1073639688882307074
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1073593372856762368

  

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34. "apparently trump forgot to tell mulvaney."
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https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1073705029964623872

  

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35. "lollllll"
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29. "New Mick to take over."
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-14/trump-says-mulvaney-to-be-acting-chief-of-staff

Isn't this his THIRD simultaneous job in this administration? Granted, he was named to the CFPB specifically to NOT do that job. So he might not be too busy.

  

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32. "lol @ the subject line"
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36. "help me out, guys"
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Can I get a list of groups it’s okay to say racist things about on okayplayer?

Jews
Irish
Dominicans


Who else should be added to the list? Thanks.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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