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"Who are our current outspoken voices in progressive circles?"
Wed Oct-10-18 09:38 PM by double negative

  

          

It just occurred to me that there is a ton of visibility with outspoken critics/activists/thinkers/minds/commentators on the conservative side.

Candace Owens
Jordan Peterson
Ben Shapiro

etc


Who are ya'll checking for on the progressive/liberal/green side of things?

So far I've been taking a lot in from the Crooked Media dudes, Coates, and occasionally Contrapoints but outside of that I'm kinda drawing a blank.

Who are the loudest critics on the left? It seems like the left/progressive side is in a position of being reactive to what ever is coming from the right.

I guess I'm looking out for ever is dropping that hammer in these trying times.

Youtube keeps recommending horrible shit and I need to adjust my intake.

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what the fuck?
Oct 11th 2018
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Expound.
Oct 11th 2018
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      RE: Expound.
Oct 11th 2018
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      these people exist to be loud and push ideas that politicians
Oct 11th 2018
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all of these voices on the right are backed by billionaires.
Oct 11th 2018
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and? I don’t think his question was who is funding those folks
Oct 11th 2018
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organic voices vs astroturfed pseudo-celebs was my point.
Oct 11th 2018
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Totally
Oct 11th 2018
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look at these fucks
Oct 11th 2018
49
/post
Oct 11th 2018
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Funny, it seems like to me the Progressives out number conservative
Oct 11th 2018
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agreed for the most part...my issue is there is a HUGE
Oct 11th 2018
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this is a point that inspired my post.
Oct 11th 2018
10
      folks here scoffed when I brought up Shannon Sharpe
Oct 11th 2018
20
           Shannon been talking more real talk than your average talking head
Oct 11th 2018
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                Yep...but hey...he doesn't have the 'credentials' sooooooo
Oct 11th 2018
45
Thanks for the suggestions.
Oct 11th 2018
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Following smart people sharing articles is my primary use of twitter.
Oct 11th 2018
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RE: Funny, it seems like to me the Progressives out number conservative
Oct 11th 2018
23
the cat with the blue goose vest
Oct 11th 2018
7
Hes down with the Crooked Media family already
Oct 11th 2018
9
RE: the cat with the blue goose vest
Oct 11th 2018
31
DSA just passed 50,000 active members
Oct 11th 2018
12
Tim Faust is literally going on tour for Medicare for All
Oct 11th 2018
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this is an important point:
Oct 11th 2018
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      The bummer flipside is the right's message discipline is ... solid
Oct 11th 2018
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           agreed.
Oct 11th 2018
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It's an in-group/out-group thing.
Oct 11th 2018
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yup
Oct 11th 2018
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where do people stand on TYT, secular talk and democracy now?
Oct 11th 2018
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RE: where do people stand on TYT, secular talk and democracy now?
Oct 11th 2018
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      will check them out
Oct 11th 2018
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           yeah, the last one is probably more of what you're looking for
Oct 11th 2018
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What's crazy to me is that Fox News isn't even owned by an American.
Oct 11th 2018
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The Left/Dems need to attack Fox much, much more
Oct 11th 2018
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      every time the left attacks fox news
Oct 11th 2018
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      I honestly didn't know this
Oct 11th 2018
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           oh trump has destroyed all norms for republicans
Oct 11th 2018
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      Two things
Oct 11th 2018
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           They go to commercial or run out of time.
Oct 11th 2018
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Cenk Uygar? Ana Kasperian?
Oct 11th 2018
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I like Ana. I can't stant Cenk
Oct 11th 2018
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I'm gonna take a stab
Oct 11th 2018
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      liberal alex jones.
Oct 11th 2018
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      exactly, 2016 turned him into the king of the dum-dum left
Oct 11th 2018
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           who is the dum dum left? lol.
Oct 11th 2018
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                it mostly means cats with a platform like Dore
Oct 11th 2018
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                     oh ok thats what i was thinking.
Oct 11th 2018
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      Didn't he at least used to argue the Armenian genocide didn't happen?
Oct 11th 2018
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      I have no idea. But being a dude from Turkey of a certain age
Oct 11th 2018
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      nailed it
Oct 11th 2018
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no
Oct 11th 2018
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I dunno about all that, I just like watching Michael Brooks nowadays
Oct 11th 2018
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Rev William J Barber II
Oct 11th 2018
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^^^^
Oct 11th 2018
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Might be the only person I can think of who can speak on everything
Oct 11th 2018
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most people already mentioned, basically pretrump msnbc
Oct 11th 2018
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conservative talk radio was kinda its own thing
Oct 11th 2018
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dr. cornel west has long been on the front lines
Oct 13th 2018
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Frontlines? Was that while he was at Harvard or Princeton? LOL.
Oct 13th 2018
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      So academics can't be activists now?
Oct 13th 2018
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           yeah even a surface knowledge of his action
Oct 14th 2018
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I like Nomiki Konst....
Oct 14th 2018
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John Burton
Oct 14th 2018
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amanda seales is cool
Oct 15th 2018
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LOLLLLLLLLLLL
Oct 15th 2018
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1. "what the fuck?"
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y'all are really, really not thinking ever.

you've never asked yourself what it is that the people you listed do and why they're promoted.



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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8. "Expound. "
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>y'all are really, really not thinking ever.
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>you've never asked yourself what it is that the people you
>listed do and why they're promoted.

Open hands here, let me make sure I understand you to be sure I might not have misspoke or that I may be entirely misguided in the way I posed my question.

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39. "RE: Expound. "
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

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48. "these people exist to be loud and push ideas that politicians"
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cannot themselves directly associate with.

ben shapiro can justify a segregated society more loudly than an elected official can.

this only works for people who have both the cultural and political capital.

it doesn't work the other way because you don't have the power behind it.

stop listening to these liars lies.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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2. "all of these voices on the right are backed by billionaires."
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3. "and? I don’t think his question was who is funding those folks"
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the left has wealthy backers as well.

If we don’t have any, why not? In this “dumb it down” 24 hour news cycle we need these types as well. I think most of our mouth pieces are celebs and CNN contributors.





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5. "organic voices vs astroturfed pseudo-celebs was my point."
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thats why you see the disproportionate platform size/amplification.

just giving some background info fam.

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13. "Totally"
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I think most of
>our mouth pieces are celebs and CNN contributors.


right. another thing that inspired this post is that I've had it up to my eyeballs with yet another youtube suggestion thats something along the lines of "X DESTROYS Feminist Activist in DEBATE"

I'm like, first of all, what is with the weird obsession with feminism
secondly, this shit is garbage in the well water
third, where are the vegetables*?


Vegetables, mental food, the counterpoint to anti-intellectualism, white supremacy bullshit the country is smoking.

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49. "look at these fucks"
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"well why don't we"

because that would not be allowed, and it wouldn't find a receptive audience.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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21. "/post"
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4. "Funny, it seems like to me the Progressives out number conservative"
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commentators/critics like 25 to 1. That's why a dummy like Candance Owens get a platform, because there are so few who can string a sentence together that you can put on tv without dropping the n bomb eventually.

I think the big difference is that progressive voices are honest to god journalist, academics and in the street activist. Not talking heads whose primary job is to go on tv and say dumb shit. Infact, I am not a big fan of the progressive talking heads whose primary job is being tv talking heads.

Anyway, I follow a bunch of people on twitter like

Samantha Power, Sarah Kendzior, Michael Avenatti, Franchesca Ramsey, Jot Reid, Jelani Cobb, Jemele Hill, Shaun King, Bell Hooks, Vanita Gupta, Josie Duffy Rice, Kiese Laymon, Gwenn Ifill , Ida Bae Wells, Mark Halperin, Imani Perry, MHP, Jamil Smith, Tananarive Due, Jamelle Bouie (my favorite).... man this is just me scrolling through my twitter feed, there are too many to list.

There are also all sorts of list you can find online as well like this one for example:

https://dailycaller.com/2017/10/19/the-top-25-progressives-to-follow-on-twitter/



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6. "agreed for the most part...my issue is there is a HUGE "
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disconnect with 'progressives' reaching the regular folk

they have a big problem talkin within their nerd circles and reaching those that NEED to hear/ be informed

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10. "this is a point that inspired my post. "
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>disconnect with 'progressives' reaching the regular folk
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and so, I've been hearing/reading that a potential new strategy or refocusing within the left is to start embracing honest to god progressive thought instead of pussyfooting around trying to be centrist

so, I'm like outside of the crooked media folks, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the like whos is putting a message thats over the wall and connecting with folks?

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20. "folks here scoffed when I brought up Shannon Sharpe"
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now granted it's obvious he isn't an in depth political analyst or no shit....but he was a nigga with a platform and opinion that is/was in line with most Black folks in a matter of fact/regular speak way...

idk where that particular/all encompassing voice is with liberals because liberals seem to have their own specific 'interest groups'... understandably so

Centrism is a figment in imaginations in today's climate...


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32. "Shannon been talking more real talk than your average talking head"
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and he's done it within the confines of a SPORTS show that has been increasingly "shut up and analyze"

even before he went to FS1 he had started that shift

  

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45. "Yep...but hey...he doesn't have the 'credentials' sooooooo"
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but yep

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11. "Thanks for the suggestions. "
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I'm sadly not a twitter user on that level but I think I might have to get into that world since it seems a lot of activity happens there (in political discourse )

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19. "Following smart people sharing articles is my primary use of twitter. "
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Also to get jokes from my favorite, Roy Woods Jr. like this:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1049489608285802498


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23. "RE: Funny, it seems like to me the Progressives out number conservative"
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>Ida Bae Wells

LMFAO. Her name is Nikole Hannah Jones. Ida Bae is her play Twitter name.

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7. "the cat with the blue goose vest"
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lol..Derayyyyyyy

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9. "Hes down with the Crooked Media family already"
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31. "RE: the cat with the blue goose vest"
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Not even. He bout that paper.

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12. "DSA just passed 50,000 active members"
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I think the growing, collectivized voices of the left are more interesting than a top-down notion of influential thinkers, but there are a ton of thoughtful, vigorous analysts too.

Nathan Robinson, editor of Current Affairs, is devastatingly clear and systematic writer, who's pretty much woodshedded Shapiro and Peterson's sloppy thought. If you want foreign policy stuff, Fellow Traveler's Blog is an independent source for discussion of left foreign policy. If Russia and Natsec stuff occupies you, then Marcy Wheeler's blog is perfect. Tressie McMillan Cottam and Eve Ewing are go-to's for education policy.

If you want an example of active and not reactive leftist ideas and policy, you should take a look at People's Policy Project. It's a response to the overwhelming center/right orientation of DC think tanks. It's funded by patreon, not by some creepy billionaire, and churns out thoughtful policy analysis on voting rights, medicare for all, public ownership of industry, social housing, etc.

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/

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15. "Tim Faust is literally going on tour for Medicare for All"
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https://twitter.com/crulge/status/1049523020451188737

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16. "this is an important point:"
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Thu Oct-11-18 11:26 AM by Reeq

  

          

>I think the growing, collectivized voices of the left are
>more interesting than a top-down notion of influential
>thinkers

in general...the left is more decentralized and bottom-up grassroots driven. as opposed to the right being more streamlined/consolidated and top-down authoritarian.

so its much easier to elevate voices among the right when most of their audience is tuned into that heavily-concentrated elevation venue and more willing to receive orders/instruction.

for example...like 50% of republicans have fox news as their primary news source. for democrats...i think cnn was the highest primary news source but barely cracking double digits. and the rest is pretty evenly spread out between msnbc, facebook, local tv, npr, nyt, etc with single digits for each.

even when you look at pure politics...all of the major shifts in the dem party platform have been driven bottom-up by the people (marriage equality, renewable energy, criminal justice, healthcare, etc). the major shifts in the repub party platform have been completely driven by special interest groups via 'leaders' (climate denial, gun rights absolutism, etc).

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18. "The bummer flipside is the right's message discipline is ... solid"
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>so its much easier to elevate voices among the right when most
>of their audience is tuned into that heavily-concentrated
>elevation venue and more willing to receive
>orders/instruction.

Yep. I guess it helps that their actual political message is so thin. It's really just "owning the libs" via huge business interests. There's no meaningful intellectual underpinnings on the right, and the ones that once existed are subsumed and transformed by capitalism. Look at how thorough the Koch's have branded Libertarianism, which is incredibly dumb but at least was once relatively independent.

>even when you look at pure politics...all of the major shifts
>in the party platform have been driven bottom-up by the people
>(marriage equality, renewable energy, criminal justice,
>healthcare, etc). the major shifts in the repub party
>platform have been completely driven by special interest
>groups via 'leaders' (climate denial, gun rights absolutism,
>etc).

And that means the left is going to fight internally more often. Which is good insofar as it means vibrancy of ideas and bad with respect to obtaining political power. It's while I'll grump on liberals' insistence on simply reforming capitalism rather than destroying it, and why I'll keep grumping on it. But the most damaging notion, and the one that deserves as much opposition as the actual GOP, is the insistence on civil engagement (looking at guys like Jon Chait) with transparently bad faith conservative thought.

The Republican party is the furthest right mainstream political party in the world. Even the weird racist European parties want to preserve social welfare programs to some degree. So, the GOP needs to be destroyed entirely. If there are any good ideas there (there aren't) they can be picked up by whatever emerges that's willing to suggest those ideas in good faith.

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29. "agreed."
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14. "It's an in-group/out-group thing."
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The people you listed all see themselves as members of the out-group, and many of their critics agree with that, so they're all on the same page about that.

The big progressive names today often feel as they they are in-group with respect to people who are smart, well-educated and worldly. The out-group members feel like they're fighting a battle to keep from being wiped out altogether, and that affects how much energy they put into what they do. It's like some sort of insurgency with alot of them, especially the three you listed.

  

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34. "yup"
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17. "where do people stand on TYT, secular talk and democracy now?"
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i like democracy now and will watch the other two from time to time but usually once i hear what the story is i will exit the video as their rambling starts.

i really wish there was more straight reporting. give me the facts, maybe give an explanation of why it might had happen or what it could mean but dont go on rants about your feelings about it.

  

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35. "RE: where do people stand on TYT, secular talk and democracy now?"
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I watch TYT casually. If Jimmy Dore is involved, EJECT -- OPERATION: DESERTION.

Secular Talk, ditto. after 2016, Kyle's turned into that anti-idpol type lefty that I ain't tryna hear

Democracy Now... eh.

I'm primarily Majority Report/Michael Brooks Show/Ben Dixon now. David Pakman as well.

Also, The Real News, which is based out of Baltimore.

  

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41. "will check them out"
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>I'm primarily Majority Report/Michael Brooks Show/Ben Dixon
>now. David Pakman as well.
>
>Also, The Real News, which is based out of Baltimore.

  

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44. "yeah, the last one is probably more of what you're looking for"
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Michael specializes in a lot of asshole humor, but there's a lot of deep research and analysis when he's not being the class clown.

The Real News is pretty straight ahead. occasionally they report on a local Baltimore and Maryland state topics. David Pakman has sort of said as an aside that he doesn't care for them and I can't help but wonder because they also go pretty hard in on Israel's right wing. they don't do a lot of ad hominems over there.

  

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22. "What's crazy to me is that Fox News isn't even owned by an American. "
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Like they go crazy over George Soros and his Agenda but their biggest platform is owned by an Austrailian who has made clear his political influence agenda.


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24. "The Left/Dems need to attack Fox much, much more "
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I was thinking yesterday about how much of what is fucked up today can be tied to Fox News.

Trump and the GOP have completely torn up any idea of norms or even the appearance of norms.

The Left needs to turn Murdoch into Soros for the right, basically.

Will it change a lot of minds? No.


But maybe a few.

  

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25. "every time the left attacks fox news"
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mainstream media closes ranks and defends fox news as a legitimate journalism outlet.

obama iced out fox news and the so called liberal media basically revolted against him.

de blasio did an interview on cnn a while ago where he started talking about the harm that murdoch outlets are doing to democracy. brian stelter basically accused him of attacking media outlets like trump.

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27. "I honestly didn't know this"
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>obama iced out fox news and the so called liberal media
>basically revolted against him.
>

When was this- just curious.


The only thing I'll say is that Trump and Trumpsters have destroyed all norms, so...

I could be off on this, I admit. Maybe if other Left-learning orgs went harder on Fox...and most specifically, put a face to the evil.


I sometimes forget Murdoch's name, but I read about Soros all the time lately. And I'm on the left.

  

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28. "oh trump has destroyed all norms for republicans"
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they can do whatever they want as long as they 'win'. media still holds dems accountable for shit like civility, proper protocol, etc.

heres some of the stuff i found on a quick search about the obama vs fox news situation.
https://www.newsweek.com/when-obama-went-war-fox-news-632424
https://www.mediaite.com/online/actually-no-trumps-press-ban-is-nothing-like-obamas-spat-with-fox-news/

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26. "Two things"
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Fighting fox is like punching one of these things:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71bb70IXzeL._SY355_.jpg

they will just keep getting up.

because, this: http://www.okmoviequotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/3-Pootie-Tang-quotes.jpg

you ever see how Tucker or Bill clam up when people start slowing time down and begin dropping truth? They can't fight it because the narrative is out of their hands

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36. "They go to commercial or run out of time. "
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For a short time I listened to Hannity and Rush for a few minutes when Obama had them melting down

Anytime someone called in with a great point they would go to commercial. I think it was so they could get their talking points from their assistants.

But let someone shit on Obama on a call and they would let it ride. It’s scary how many people listen to these types and eat that shit up. What’s even scarier is Trunp shitted on Fox News during the debates and didn’t show up and Fox News has to bow down to him. The ignorance is larger that Fox News.

shut up already, damn

  

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30. "Cenk Uygar? Ana Kasperian?"
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Young Turks vs Everybody basically

  

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38. "I like Ana. I can't stant Cenk"
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i'm not even 100% sure why. even when he says shit I agree with I wanna push his chair over.

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42. "I'm gonna take a stab"
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>i'm not even 100% sure why. even when he says shit I agree
>with I wanna push his chair over.

he's a "reformed conservative", which calls into question some of his motivations. his style is real fratboy, and sometimes he can't resist going into that "cast member of Porky's bag", but not too much to set off the #MeToo alarm.

but Jesus Christ the mere sight of that dude triggers the MAGAboys, it's like he's a Turkish Farrakhan, the way they ALWAYS bring up the Armenian Genocide, call him a "buffalo", and just get mad at his presence.

I'm OK with Cenk, only because his rage against the MSM over the Iraq War was as real as it got (and as it should have been IN the MSM).

Jimmy Dore can eat a swirl of doo doo on a stick though

  

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43. "liberal alex jones."
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>Jimmy Dore can eat a swirl of doo doo on a stick though

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46. "exactly, 2016 turned him into the king of the dum-dum left"
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and he became less funny the more Alex Jones-like he got.

  

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47. "who is the dum dum left? lol."
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ive seen you use that before. i dont wanna make any assumptions.

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52. "it mostly means cats with a platform like Dore"
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who play right into the hands of authoritarians in power with their particular spin on lefty politics. downplay the threat that the GOP is because "Democrats are bad, too, mmkay" and calling cats like Noam Chomsky "NEOLIBERALS" because they would vote for Hillary over Trump.


this is broken down even better over here, with an actual Brooks quote: https://johnhalle.com/michael-brooks-dum-dum-left/



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58. "oh ok thats what i was thinking."
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some folks are so myopic mayne.

type of people to attack a dem for not being strong enough on yemen/syria/palestine and hand an election to a repub theyre diametrically opposed to on 99% of the other issues.

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50. "Didn't he at least used to argue the Armenian genocide didn't happen?"
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53. "I have no idea. But being a dude from Turkey of a certain age"
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I wouldn't be surprised. that's the thing that the MAGAboys repeat over and over and over, so I basically see it as "Pizzagate"

  

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54. "nailed it"
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>he's a "reformed conservative", which calls into question some
>of his motivations. his style is real fratboy, and sometimes
>he can't resist going into that "cast member of Porky's bag",
>but not too much to set off the #MeToo alarm.
>

its painful to see ana cringe when they do segments together. you can tell shes not fully supportive of him

  

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55. "no"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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33. "I dunno about all that, I just like watching Michael Brooks nowadays"
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he's funny as fuck with his impressions of various people but mostly he hits the historical context as well as does a lot of multidimensional analysis.

him and Benjamin Dixon have been who I've been tuned into the most.

  

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37. "Rev William J Barber II"
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40. "^^^^"
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51. "Might be the only person I can think of who can speak on everything"
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from a place of knowledge.

Lot of people can be smart on taking apart capitalism and answering questions on health care can't bother to think twice about the prison industrial complex or racial inequality or vice versa. I've yet to hear this guy mess up on anything.

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56. "most people already mentioned, basically pretrump msnbc"
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mainstays and all the pod saves

I have always enjoyed Elizabeth Warren’s approach to finance
presenate, she dropped gems on npr and her bank policies
might be the only government policies that have positively affected
my adult life bottom line

like Orman is inspirational and all but Warren got something done

and I am liking Anand Giridharadas again
he used to be annoying to me but his current project
on the way philanthropy works is that good calling out
progressives self righteousness

what Coates was trying to do when they wanted him to choose sides
so he just dropped out...

  

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57. "conservative talk radio was kinda its own thing"
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limbaugh and glenn beck found a scared, angry, easily-captivated audience that doesnt quite exist on the opposite side

but from that sprang up all the other rightwing talking heads


and as has been shown, the right pretty much listen to all the same sources, and ppl on the left listen to many different sources, so net effect is= the sources on the right are individually stronger, higher ratings, etc


i dont think those names u listed are really visible at all tho. except the few times they say something xxtra stupid and get called out.



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59. "dr. cornel west has long been on the front lines"
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60. "Frontlines? Was that while he was at Harvard or Princeton? LOL. "
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61. "So academics can't be activists now?"
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I have a lot of problems with Dr. West, but I have to say that the man has consistently put himself out there. He was in DC protesting Citizens United, getting arrested at Occupy Wall st, and was a part of a group of clergy members at Charlottesville protesting Nazis. That's sounds pretty frontline to me.

  

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62. "yeah even a surface knowledge of his action "
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would dead the idea he's simply pontificating. a 2 second google image search shows him on the front lines for years. el oh el indeed

https://www.google.com/search?q=cornel+west+arrested&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=H1MeA7pRNGaOZM%253A%252C4k2GeZ3FPJHEYM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kRF65BhiUl1iLEWiMUdt3cgg36wbg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZgpixt4feAhUFVt8KHcBRA1kQ9QEwD3oECAAQDA#imgrc=H1MeA7pRNGaOZM:

  

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63. "I like Nomiki Konst...."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAvblBnXV-w

  

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64. "John Burton"
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/a-former-obama-operative-built-a-new-anti-republican-attack-machine

  

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65. "amanda seales is cool"
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she's tiffany from insecure. just started listening to her podcasts, seems like she
gets it.

  

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66. "LOLLLLLLLLLLL"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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