very close, but De La Soul IS better

Classics
3 Feet High and Rising (1989)
De La Soul Is Dead (1991)
Buhloone Mindstate (1993)
People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm (1990)
The Low End Theory (1991)
Midnight Marauders (1993)

Great
Stakes Is High (1996)
The Grind Date (2004)
and the Anonymous Nobody... (2016)
We Got It from Here... Thank You 4 Your Service (2016)

Good
Art Official Intelligence: Mosaic Thump (2000)
AOI: Bionix (2001)
Plug 1 & Plug 2 Present... First Serve (2012)
Beats, Rhymes and Life (1996)
The Love Movement (1998)

The end.

Stakes Is High is absolutely a classic!

im thinking that is an album that one day will hit me but i still dont quite get why its loved so much. as i said, its great but to me its a step down from the first 3.

i could see one album moving up or down on the list for each of them though.

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some dudes with back to back all-time great records, that along with ATLiens and Aquemini, might be the best back to back albums any groups have put out in the history of music, not just hip-hop.

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although I've heard way less of ATCQ than De La Soul

but of the stuff I heard it's De La all day!

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Tribe is my favorite group, period. De la is up there but while I liked their production I always got more out of Tribe's stuff. Pos and Dave are probably better MC's than Tip and Phife but like Tribe's beats, I gravitated more to Tip and the crew.

It probably hurts Tribe that they put out fewer albums and over a shorter period of time. It's easier to have fond memories of De la Soul because they've been relevant over a longer period of time.

De la might be more consistent but Tribe's peaks were higher to me.

But I can't argue with you if you did put them above Tribe. Same basic template, but one was more abstract and the other more funky.

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>Tribe is my favorite group, period. De la is up there but
>while I liked their production I always got more out of
>Tribe's stuff. Pos and Dave are probably better MC's than Tip
>and Phife but like Tribe's beats, I gravitated more to Tip and
>the crew.
>

i agree that de la has the better MCs, i think what holds de la back for a lot of people is that they always tried different things. tribe found a sound and perfected it from the get go. people loved it and they kept delivering until beats rhymes and life. de la had everyone fall in love with them and they said nah thats not us and switched it up. you do have to give some points to tribe since the production was mostly in house. not sure that prince paul was ever a member of de la and their classics were mostly produced by him.

>It probably hurts Tribe that they put out fewer albums and
>over a shorter period of time. It's easier to have fond
>memories of De la Soul because they've been relevant over a
>longer period of time.
>

this could easily back fire. if you only put out one or two classics albums and dont return youre a legend. if you keep putting albums out you might turn into KRS. de la found a way to keep putting out great music. that is definitely a challenge. to me its more about the quality of music vs the quantity.

>De la might be more consistent but Tribe's peaks were higher
>to me.
>

to me tribes were more catchy and will get more heads nodding when thrown on. de la is more laid back and more made for jamming out by yourself. the songs they do have that were big singles were great but id give tribe the edge on music to jam to.

>But I can't argue with you if you did put them above Tribe.
>Same basic template, but one was more abstract and the other
>more funky.

basically. this was really a reaction to tribe getting like 75% of vote on ambrosia over de la. really should be more 51/49 either way.

>i agree that de la has the better MCs, i think what holds de
>la back for a lot of people is that they always tried
>different things. tribe found a sound and perfected it from
>the get go. people loved it and they kept delivering until
>beats rhymes and life. de la had everyone fall in love with
>them and they said nah thats not us and switched it up. you do
>have to give some points to tribe since the production was
>mostly in house. not sure that prince paul was ever a member
>of de la and their classics were mostly produced by him.

I think their variety in their musical and lyrical styles is why ?uest liked them so much. Both groups have the similar thread of creating something uniquely sounding from one album to the next.

de La was a group that I would really like for one album and then lose that infatuation on the next one. Like with Buhloone Mindstate. That's probably my favorite de La album and while I liked Stakes is High, some of my fondness of the group faded.

The group could have had more commercial success if they stayed in the 3 Feet and Rising days. But to their credit they bet on their ability to be creative and shift their influences from album to album.

Granted they've had a great career so they're probably not worried about how things shook out.

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>>It probably hurts Tribe that they put out fewer albums and
>>over a shorter period of time. It's easier to have fond
>>memories of De la Soul because they've been relevant over a
>>longer period of time.
>>
>
>this could easily back fire. if you only put out one or two
>classics albums and dont return youre a legend. if you keep
>putting albums out you might turn into KRS. de la found a way
>to keep putting out great music. that is definitely a
>challenge. to me its more about the quality of music vs the
>quantity.
>

Good point. I personally prefer groups that don't put out a lot of output but knock it out of the park with each release tho.


>>But I can't argue with you if you did put them above Tribe.
>>Same basic template, but one was more abstract and the other
>>more funky.
>
>basically. this was really a reaction to tribe getting like
>75% of vote on ambrosia over de la. really should be more
>51/49 either way.
>

Yeah, I guess they're readership must skew younger. Maybe since de La is almost nonexistent in digital they've fallen out of relevance since the only people that listen to them regularly are people who are heads or who grew up on their music. That has less to do with the quality of the music than the current way younger people seem get access to music.

I didn't know a lot of de La heads growing up but my guess would be that fans of both groups would rate one over the other, but by a slight margin. I don't know if both bands are 1a & 1b, but they're a really close 1 & 2, if that makes sense.

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both DAMN good groups...iconic, even. I just personally *like* De La, more. Love them both as groups, though. Adore most of their album. My favorite album of all of them in a pile happens to be Buhloone Mindstate.

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Hands down DeLa has better wordplay, beats, creativity, catalog, etc....

c'mon. while it's not a crazy opinion, neither group is hands down better than the other.

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clever bars.
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and I’m a huge De La fan. Yuuuuuge.

but their style of talk was a crutch at times. You didn’t know what they were talking about which made it easy to say anything on a track.

The other issue with De La is they were a dark group. Pessimist to a fault while Tribe was more optimistic. For me that made for higher highs

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a club, car, etc.

What De La can you throw on that gets everybody riled up.

De La is headphone listen by yourself music.

Tribe is bring people together, iconic sounding music.

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I’d put them on the same level too. More projects I don’t care for(just the last 2), but more material too. I ride for Tipping Point and How I Got Over way harder than most, in addition to their generally recognized best albums. TFA is in the upper echelon of albums ever made to me.

And I’m starting to believe Thought’s got a legit argument for GOAT. He’s been a phenomenally great rapper for over 20 years with never any kind of fall off.

>And I’m starting to believe Thought’s got a legit argument
>for GOAT. He’s been a phenomenally great rapper for over 20
>years with never any kind of fall off.

I assumed that was established long ago. Even if he's not a top 5 FAVORITE of yours ("yours" = in general) I don't think any longtime fan of hip-hop could reasonably argue against him being one of the very best ever to rip a mic.

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but that’s cause I didn’t really think of listing rappers from groups that didn’t have solo albums. I never thought of Andre, Pos, etc. either. Starting to rethink that though. And especially with Thought because while those were group albums, he was doing most of the rapping on a lot of them so what’s the difference if the band he’s in is making the music or outside producers are making it?

... he's 6th after: Nas, Common, Posdnuos, Andre 3k, and Royce 5'9. But if I'm talking "objective" GOATs he's gotta be a top 5 candidate, at worst.

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but he's likely the best. I don't do much with list cuz it'll change by the hour and what song/album I'm listening to at the moment.

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you might be right but im gonna need some time to accept this.

both tribe and de la had higher highs than the roots but to me the roots are consistently great.

allows them to be taken for granted. especially now that they're on tv every night.

to me, they're at least on par with de la and tribe. honesty, its a toss up between them, kast, tribe, and I'll add wu-tang.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

but wu-tang never quite clicked for me like it did for a lot of folks.