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mista k5
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"i gotta admit, this rapper/singer from toronto is one of my favs"


  

          

not necessarily a great rapper or singer but he sure makes catchy music with great beats.

maybe im just in my feelings but i really like his music, possibly too much. times listening to this albums are some of the best i ever had.

8 out of 10 of his songs are great. in a way it dont matter to me but really im upset that he doesnt get more glow.

ive been rocking with him since way back.

fantastique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I_Z8PWE1uw

superstarr pt1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZBNmWnT3SA

freeze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiPl-WJEwtI

higher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy0HtdE2QHU

follow me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWRzkQRWNHk

superstarr pt 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iy31i8mP8Y

superstarr pt 0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLpAXWoJ_Bg

crucial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvjU0h4ktg4

man i used to be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCNBXjTohds

crabbuckit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtSzpKiARrI

commandante
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYlV94nmTfU

the love song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyRB00Xe5-E

one hood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRKEV4DIOIo

dirty water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4od9G0CsKwE

papercutz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR2obw3NhWY

electrik heat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3iNxTxOxN0

the rain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgaMSArC-Wc

flypaper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jqNakmpAYM

equalizer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaVQlFhldD0

sunday morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afn0h2M6eTg

mirror in the sky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjlxCLTvTE8

born to run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wpBXCxtonI

black ice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdRDtYhhGMw

ballad of noah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONJNf11jxc0

uptown girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2uRIiQBGpU

i wish i knew natalie portman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9SN96v1Mec

4 3 2 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eNCNQXjnJs

the avenue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9SpImqi2xI

the dog is mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB5urOYly3Q

nyce 2 know ya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgX6p0q93lc

spraying my pen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQHjLkXe2ME

snapback
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfydzm3OWKU

crucify
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry6Dy_X4BGE

vous deux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c48jpcSxSM

boyz II men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKtbPElXdEY

steel sharpens steel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szI7-SQSyHw

i wonder if he can tune his own guitar, anyways, take care.

  

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highway 7
Aug 15th 2018
1
Huge fan of the Atlantis album, which is when I got up on him.
Aug 15th 2018
2
i think joyful rebellion is just as good as atlantis
Aug 15th 2018
3
Huge fan. Been following him since his first album.
Aug 15th 2018
4
a lot of his songs seems to be about vibes
Aug 15th 2018
5
yeah
Aug 15th 2018
6
one of my favs
Aug 15th 2018
7
LOL... why didn't you just say K-OS??? forgot about dude...
Aug 16th 2018
8
for the lulz
Aug 16th 2018
9
this may be an example of someone who was ahead of his time
Aug 16th 2018
10
Hmm... I think he had a nice run
Aug 16th 2018
11
      i dont think he'd ever blow up like BEP
Aug 16th 2018
12
           RE: i dont think he'd ever blow up like BEP
Aug 16th 2018
15
           i appreciate the reply
Aug 16th 2018
16
                Back in the day he was in Philly, he had a flask outside the venue
Aug 16th 2018
17
                     RE: Back in the day he was in Philly, he had a flask outside the venue
Aug 17th 2018
23
           i didn't think BEP would ever blow up like BEP
Aug 16th 2018
19
                i dont think they did either
Aug 16th 2018
20
                     If they didn’t get Fergie the label was going to drop hem
Aug 17th 2018
25
                          they did what they had to
Aug 17th 2018
27
was totally expecting this to be about Choclair
Aug 16th 2018
13
I would never ever want to hear Choclair sing. Saukrates sings a little...
Aug 16th 2018
14
His live album is really good
Aug 16th 2018
18
ive never checked it out
Aug 16th 2018
21
some interviews
Aug 16th 2018
22
posted a new song at midnight last night
Aug 17th 2018
24
yes!!!!
Aug 17th 2018
26
this song has really grown on me
Oct 03rd 2018
28
Tapped out at Black on Blonde
Oct 03rd 2018
29

mista k5
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1. "highway 7"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pgbqgBQWpM

one of my favorite songs.

Peace!

...Hey, hey...
I was down to my very last song
Didn't even know which way to go
Couldn't believe that this was happening
I said, "God please don't put me back
I didn't even see there was blood on the tracks
I was still compromising"

And then the rain came and the sun went down below
And the city arose from the water it was off the shore
And I realized what was happening; I had to pay the toll
It's true that you lose your mind when you gain control
But I was a fool to think I could play this game with you
Cause I was born to walk this higher road forever
There's no understanding all the things that people do
Cause when this higher road comes down we'll be born together
I said, when this higher road comes down we'll be born forever

Yeah...
I was down to my very last friend
I was on "Highway Kevin" again
Tell me why it's so hard to stay
In your place in the arms of the one
Seems I got too close to the sun
I was burning
Burning, burning, burning...

And then the rain came and the sun went down below
And the city arose from the water and the water flowed
And then I realized what was happening; you have to pay the toll
It's true that you gain your soul when you lose control
Fool to think I could play this game with you
Cause I was born to walk this higher road forever
See there's no understanding all the things that people do
But when this higher road comes down we'll be born together
I said, when this higher road comes down we'll be born forever

Hey, hey...
At night I toss and turn, cause it seems that I haven't learned
That the more that you fight and the more that you try
That's the way that you making the storm
If I had my way, I would bring you back to stay
But you're gone
All I got is the crown that you wore
Is the crown that you wore
Is the crown that you wore
Is the crown that you wore
Is the crown that you wore
Is the crown that you wore
Is the crown that you wore
Is the crown that you wore
Is the crown that you wore
Higher road!!
Higher road!!
Higher road!!
Hey, hey, hey, hey...

  

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mrhood75
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2. "Huge fan of the Atlantis album, which is when I got up on him."
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Yes! and Can't Fly Without Gravity were both good as well. It's odd that I've never gone back and explored his earlier releases.

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mista k5
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3. "i think joyful rebellion is just as good as atlantis"
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i prefer atlantis and they are two different vibes but i think these two albums are classics.

exit has a lot of great stuff but a little raw and not as cohesive. really good album.

just by looking at the list of songs in the op its obvious that yes started a trail of less great songs but still a lot of good songs.

im really hoping he keeps making music.

  

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legsdiamond
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4. "Huge fan. Been following him since his first album. "
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Born to Run and Sunday Morning get me so hype.

Dudes rap game is a lil suspect, he just throws words together half the time but it still sounds good. He rarely tells a good story while rapping but his song structure is top notch.

He’s like a mirror of Drake when it comes to talent. I prefer Drakes raps and K-OS singing.

I just started listening to Can’t Fly the other day. I’m about to put together another Spotify playlist of his work.

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mista k5
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5. "a lot of his songs seems to be about vibes"
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he will have some words in the chorus or in verses that get a certain feeling across. when you try to dissect the songs and go word by word it does seem a lot of words used to sound good. it works though.

im a sucker for the pure rap songs where he mostly reuses hooks and rap lines from other peoples songs. i would say the best rap verses on his albums are usually from the features.

  

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6. "yeah"
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K-OS is freaking great... liked his debut album the most but they're all excellent.

  

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7. "one of my favs"
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https://youtu.be/MSbnoz-QR3k
Da grassroots feat. K-os & thrust
(This album by the way...yooooo)

  

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8. "LOL... why didn't you just say K-OS??? forgot about dude..."
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wow, can't believe he's still at it

  

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mista k5
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9. "for the lulz"
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mista k5
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10. "this may be an example of someone who was ahead of his time"
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when his first album came out rappers that sang were not really approved of. trying to blend other genres with hiphop was not really approved of either.

now the biggest rappers mostly sing. the genre blending is kind of normal.

he did have some success but not proportional to his talent or quality of music.

i understand the complaints of rappers or hiphop groups that go from traditional rap sounds to trying to blend rock or whatever. it seems for k-os the more he went away from trying to do old school, strictly rap music the more comfortable he is.

  

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legsdiamond
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11. "Hmm... I think he had a nice run"
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He was back pack and Canadian and looked just like Will.i.am.

I definitely think he was going to go pop with some of his songs. He was almost like a pop/rock singer who was trying to prove he was hip hop.

Dope as hell but I think he missed the pop train.

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mista k5
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12. "i dont think he'd ever blow up like BEP"
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not as pop or as big but he seemed to be close to being well known.

i think the canadian platinum status kind of skews the perspective. its really only 100,000 copies when CDs actually still went platinum in the US, 1m.

although he was backpacker music he did seem to have the appeal that would expand to more audiences. i think his biggest knock was that he wasn't necessarily great at any one thing when at the time you were expected to at least be great at one thing.

now you can have a lot of success being mediocre at one thing.

thats not to say that hes not contempt with his place, i hope hes in a place where hes able to only make music when hes inspired to and not just for a check.

  

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15. "RE: i dont think he'd ever blow up like BEP"
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Those platinum amounts actually make proportional sense, it may be a tenth as much up here but there are a tenth as many people. Definitely completely different markets either way.

He always switched up his styles a bit but it never completely throws you off, and its pretty consistently him. I think he might have new music on the way in the future, he hinted at something on his facebook page but is rather silent now to my eyes relative to Shad promoting his next album for real now. I think k-os is pretty comfortably able to do what he feels like doing musically up here still, and apparently he can be pretty easy to hang out with in Toronto if you know his watering holes, he likes to drink.

I haven't seen him live in a while, but I've always appreciated that he still digs back in his catalogue, will do Superstar pt.2 and not miss a beat. I've always felt like he kind of tries to embody the work ethic he saw from the Roots as a collective back in the day, as much as he could within one person.

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16. "i appreciate the reply"
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>Those platinum amounts actually make proportional sense, it
>may be a tenth as much up here but there are a tenth as many
>people. Definitely completely different markets either way.
>

i see what you mean and agree. i think as an american you hear platinum and you think a million records. i think many people in america have at least heard sunday morning but i doubt the average person would know who k-os is.

>He always switched up his styles a bit but it never completely
>throws you off, and its pretty consistently him. I think he
>might have new music on the way in the future, he hinted at
>something on his facebook page but is rather silent now to my
>eyes relative to Shad promoting his next album for real now.
>I think k-os is pretty comfortably able to do what he feels
>like doing musically up here still, and apparently he can be
>pretty easy to hang out with in Toronto if you know his
>watering holes, he likes to drink.
>

i do agree that his albums all usually have a new sound but never seem forced. i think maybe black on blonde was maybe his most "forced" album but he was still trying to achieve a sound he wanted to do. not necessarily just make something popular. i feel like cant fly without gravity was a bit more natural and i wouldnt mind hearing another evolution of this style. steel sharpens steel is such a great song and i would love to hear more like it.

his drinking concerns me, i remember reading he struggled with that. i try to keep their personal lives to themselves though. im just hoping hes got it under control.

>I haven't seen him live in a while, but I've always
>appreciated that he still digs back in his catalogue, will do
>Superstar pt.2 and not miss a beat. I've always felt like he
>kind of tries to embody the work ethic he saw from the Roots
>as a collective back in the day, as much as he could within
>one person.

i saw him open for gym class heroes and it was a great show. i think it was right after atlantis was released but i dont remember what songs he did. would like to see him do a full set. its cool to see an artist comfortable doing their old songs. many seem to be opposed to doing older songs especially if they were very popular songs. i understand theyre tired of the songs but you know half the audience is there for the hit so it sucks when the artist doesnt pay it off.

i appreciate that he does everything, writes his lyrics, music, plays instruments, produces. he also seems to be quite comfortable collaborating with other artists and not be too big on himself.

  

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legsdiamond
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17. "Back in the day he was in Philly, he had a flask outside the venue"
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Show was good but he didn’t do Higher or Superstar 2.0

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upUPNorth
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23. "RE: Back in the day he was in Philly, he had a flask outside the venue"
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I'm in Toronto, home crowds might get special treatment? lol

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19. "i didn't think BEP would ever blow up like BEP"
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haha

  

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20. "i dont think they did either"
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im not mad at them, i actually grew to like their pop stuff but i do wish they had been able to keep doing music like they were before fergie.

the new songs theyve come out with for the new album are okay. i saw an interview the other day with will and taboo (he spoke for like 30 seconds of the 10 minutes). supposedly they are now getting back to the music they want to make.

  

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25. "If they didn’t get Fergie the label was going to drop hem"
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Had a real eye opening convo with him right before he added Fergie. They did a show at UVA and we were back stage. Dude tells us if this last album doesn’t do numbers they are getting dropped. He was like “yo! I gotta do something or it’s over”

Fast forward a year or 2 later a coworker walks in and says “ I just heard the worst song ever, My Humps, it’s going to be huge”

The rest is history.





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mista k5
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27. "they did what they had to"
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they did make some good music in their fergie era, they made some really bad pop stuff. some good hiphop, some good pop. will did some great stuff with other artists.

theres many songs of theirs that i rock that should go in that non-tokp songs post.

  

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13. "was totally expecting this to be about Choclair"
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November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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14. "I would never ever want to hear Choclair sing. Saukrates sings a little..."
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right? This could have been about him. Maybe I'm mistaking him for someone else.

  

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18. "His live album is really good"
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I think it's called much music presents... I play the fuck out of it

  

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21. "ive never checked it out"
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live albums are always hit or miss. im gonna look for this, thanks.

  

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22. "some interviews"
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pretty good reads. i like how he actually has explanations for why he does music the way he does. partial swipes below

http://americansongwriter.com/2007/03/k-os-the-school-of-mccartney/
“After I secured a record deal, I listened back to one of my CDs and threw it against the wall-the CD exploded into pieces on contact-saying that it was bullshit. The reason I felt that way was because I didn’t mean what I was saying. I was listening to everything that ranged from The Fugees to OutKast, and I realized that I was just saying what I thought my heroes would say.

“The truth was that none of those lyrics were mine; I didn’t own any of it. And that’s when I started to take off all of the disguises-the Triple Fat Gooses and everything else that I was hiding behind. I went back to my childhood to look over things that I’d written when I was 15. I listened to my old recordings before I had a perception of what hip-hop was. I became truthful with myself. I realized that, hey, I really like The Eagles. Hey, I really like The Beatles. Hey, I really like Frank Sinatra. So when I got back to the songwriting process, my lyrics were coming out through hip-hop, but now there were different influences driving my sound. So that’s what happened when I took my time off; I stopped being embarrassed by my musical influences and finally began to use those influences to my advantage.”

http://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/k-os/
Songfacts: When you write lyrics, do you write them in one shot for a song?

K-os: Great question. Tricky question. I don't know where my lyrics come from. I have no idea, and it's always going to be a mystery to me. Sometimes I listen back to some of the stuff I wrote, and I don't know how I ended up rhyming this with this. It just sort of happens.

And that's the one part of my music that I never really can say is calculated. I make a piece of music and sit around with it - music comes first 90 percent of the time. I've got the bed track and I've got my headphones on. I'm out for a walk or I'm in a car with the music blasting.

Then I just start saying stuff on top of it that the music feels like what it should say. The song's already telling me what it should say.

Paul McCartney says that most of the songs are already written, you just happen to be the person that is chosen to capture that one. Paul McCartney said he wrote that song "Yesterday" one morning when he was on a boat. He just woke up and he wrote this thing. He went to all the members in the band, to George Harrison, to Ringo, and asked, Have you heard this song before? And they're like, No, never.

Finally he got to John Lennon, who was probably a little more critical. He's like, No, no, you wrote that. And that's how he wrote "Yesterday." But he swore it must be something he'd heard before.

So a lot of times you write stuff lyrically and if it sounds good, it's because it's a culmination of every great lyrical song you've ever heard, and you've just taken all of them and done your own version. I think that's probably the bottom line of where lyrics come from.

So it's never a one-shot thing in the sense of I sit down with a pen and a pad. But it's definitely a one-shot thing that once you're on that train and you're riding it, it just all starts coming to you.

https://nationalpost.com/entertainment/music/the-miseducation-of-k-os
Q:Toronto is in the midst of a flourishing cultural revolution thanks to artists like Drake and The Weeknd. It’s easy to see a through line between what you were doing and what those artists are doing. Do you see yourself as a godfather to that scene?

A: For me, I see that as someone like Saukrates. He’s the godfather to me. So you have to keep it in check. Yes, I’ll take that because I think I did do a lot of weird things musically but that’s the only thing I want to be recognized for: a dude who took chances. When I had a $400,000 record budget I made an album like Atlantis which mixed genres way before that was happening. But the godfather title I only take it in a musical aspect. I think I’m a pretty dumb business man. I’m the guy who says no to iPod commercials. I’m the dude that walks out of his New York record office in the middle of meetings. I’ve always done stuff to not care about business.

  

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24. "posted a new song at midnight last night"
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http://k-os.fanlink.to/NoBucks

seems for fun and kind of unplugged, hopefully its a sign of an album in the future.

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26. "yes!!!!"
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nice, thanks for the heads up. i really like it. i can see it growing on me but on first listen i really like it. sounds like a mix from the different sounds hes been doing, first thought was it sounded like something from exit but it definitely has parts that sound like each of his other albums. theres a new vibe too.

sounds like an anti bubblin kind of.

  

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28. "this song has really grown on me"
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loving it

  

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29. "Tapped out at Black on Blonde"
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Loved all of his projects up until then...

Joyful Rebellion
Atlantis
and Yes! is a flawless run.

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