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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"Seriously, why does anyone give a sh*t if Zac Efron sports dreads?"


  

          

I know people call it cultural appropriation but without using those words I'd like for someone to describe the harm or disrespect that is being done to anyone by someone wearing a certain hairstyle or wearing Asian prints or whatever. I get when the style has significant religious or cultural meaning (I wouldn't wear another groups religious garb for Halloween for example) but I wish a mofo would try to tell me I couldn't wear a certain hairstyle because it belongs to their culture.

I find this issue particularly annoying because folks getting worked up by this make it easy to dismiss more important issues because they all get lumped together as oversensitive PC culture.


I mean come on, how overwrought "My lifestyle is not something you steal and pick up just for fun”? Your lifestyle? Come one B. Unless you a Rasta that sounds like some bullshit.

No one owns culture and if your culture spreads that's typically (granted no always) a good thing.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/zac-efron-got-dreadlocks-just-for-fun_us_5b3f5fdce4b09e4a8b2c0111






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Lol our generation of complainers are the worst
Jul 07th 2018
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This is a Black discussion Heinz, you can see your dumbazz out of it.
Jul 07th 2018
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      Lol the irony of a cultural appropriation discussion
Jul 08th 2018
12
I’m ok with black people going extra
Jul 07th 2018
2
Lol
Jul 07th 2018
3
Who?
Jul 07th 2018
4
is this really a thing or it just a few people bitching?
Jul 07th 2018
5
thats the cycle.
Jul 07th 2018
6
      RE: thats the cycle.
Jul 07th 2018
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      Ben Shapiro DESTROYS cuck lib
Jul 07th 2018
8
      Nice one
Jul 07th 2018
11
I don't like it at all but....
Jul 07th 2018
10
That's not what cultural appropriation is
Jul 08th 2018
13
thanks. was hoping someone else would explain
Jul 08th 2018
14
I know you've worked a lot in the corporate sector
Jul 09th 2018
16
But White folks are always "exercising their privilege".
Jul 09th 2018
17
There’s a portion of black folks that feel dreads are black culture
Jul 08th 2018
15

Heinz
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1. "Lol our generation of complainers are the worst "
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Sat Jul-07-18 09:31 AM by Heinz

  

          

Theres times where important battles are fought and it makes you smile with a sense of pride. Then there's things like this. Our generation no matter the cause they are fighting for, no matter their race, sex or sexuality.


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NoDrawls McGraw
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9. "This is a Black discussion Heinz, you can see your dumbazz out of it."
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Sat Jul-07-18 06:07 PM by NoDrawls McGraw

  

          

Your input isn't even *remotely needed, asked for, or counted.


Thanx


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Heinz
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12. "Lol the irony of a cultural appropriation discussion"
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While putting out shitty music with with asian artwork lol

Please tell me more


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MEAT
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2. "I’m ok with black people going extra"
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I don’t agree with it. But a generation of black folks that feel safe enough to claim shit that may or may not be ours and go for each and every neck is one that I can admire.
I know our generation had to assimilate and compromise a lot just to get better footing, but there’s a part of me that laments that we didn’t fight as much.

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3. "Lol "
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4. "Who?"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Mynoriti
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5. "is this really a thing or it just a few people bitching?"
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countered by more people bitching about the bitching

  

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6. "thats the cycle."
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limited backlash.

disproportionate and sensational coverage of the limited backlash.

disproportionate and sensational coverage of the limited backlash amplifying the odds, scope and intensity of a backlash to the backlash.

disproportionate and sensational coverage of the backlash to the backlash.

disproportionate and sensational coverage of why either backlash is bad for society.

youtube recommending a clip from a joe rogan podcast episode where he and another socially displaced white male 'intellectual' whine about the 'crazy times' we live in, how you cant do anything anymore, and how we are headed towards becoming nazi germany or stalinist russia if we arent careful.

  

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7. "RE: thats the cycle."
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damn post modernists!!

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8. "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS cuck lib"
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>youtube recommending a clip from a joe rogan podcast episode
>where he and another socially displaced white male
>'intellectual' whine about the 'crazy times' we live in, how
>you cant do anything anymore, and how we are headed towards
>becoming nazi germany or stalinist russia if we arent
>careful.
>

  

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11. "Nice one"
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>limited backlash.
>
>disproportionate and sensational coverage of the limited
>backlash.
>
>disproportionate and sensational coverage of the limited
>backlash amplifying the odds, scope and intensity of a
>backlash to the backlash.
>
>disproportionate and sensational coverage of the backlash to
>the backlash.
>
>disproportionate and sensational coverage of why either
>backlash is bad for society.
>
>youtube recommending a clip from a joe rogan podcast episode
>where he and another socially displaced white male
>'intellectual' whine about the 'crazy times' we live in, how
>you cant do anything anymore, and how we are headed towards
>becoming nazi germany or stalinist russia if we arent
>careful.
>
>

  

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NoDrawls McGraw
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10. "I don't like it at all but...."
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Sat Jul-07-18 06:14 PM by NoDrawls McGraw

  

          

...I understand the vast scope of our indelible influence on everybody the world over.

If the person is at least melanated, I'm not too much trippin but if the person is of European descent, his anti-racism game gotta be super on-point or its violation.

Like, he can't be no cock racist azz mofo devoid of the culture that he's borrowing from, thats just reckless and grounds for gettin ya azz beat. But of Duke got love for da culture on some flattery shit, its whatever.




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Garhart Poppwell
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13. "That's not what cultural appropriation is"
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Cultural appropriation is when a culture creates something and is looked down upon or stated as being inferior for it, then another culture comes along and utilizes that creation in a way the originators were not afforded.

An example is how things like chakras and study of the pineal gland is considered "new age" now that white people got a hold of it, but Africans were called savages and demon worshipers for coming up with it in the first place. Or how white women can wear braids and be seen as fashion forward, but black women can't wear them to work because it's deemed "ghetto" or inappropriate for work environments.

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14. "thanks. was hoping someone else would explain "
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excellent.

basically Zac exercising his white privilege by rocking a hairstyle that would prevent many black people from even getting certain jobs

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16. "I know you've worked a lot in the corporate sector "
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I got out of it as quickly as I could, so you may be able to answer this for me (if you want to, of course).

How often have you encountered black people that are more than willing to perpetuate that sort of thing in the workplace, from a genuine place? I know there's a difference in mentality between somebody trying to keep a job and somebody that's all on board for this madness, and in my short time in that world I ran into more of the latter than the former.

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17. "But White folks are always "exercising their privilege". "
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White Privelege isn't a super power that they activate at times to get certain benefits. They are constantly benefiting from it.

As a similar example, white boys in my office can come in looking ratty wearing sneakers and beat up polos. I wouldn't even try to get away coming into the office dressed like that.

Are they exercising white privilege? I don't know but they are fully benefiting from white privelege. Should they not dress like that? I don't know.

I guess I am having a hard time with the rule that white people shouldn't exercise their white privilege because it's like asking them to stop being white.

Also I don't think this definition explains why Jeremy Lin got shit for wearing dreds or why people screamed Cultural Appropriation when the girl wore an Asian Print Dress.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/learning/prom-dress-cultural-appropriation.html


>excellent.
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>basically Zac exercising his white privilege by rocking a
>hairstyle that would prevent many black people from even
>getting certain jobs
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15. "There’s a portion of black folks that feel dreads are black culture"
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I don’t know how big that portion is. I feel that it’s the lower end of the millennial generation but that’s where this static comes from.

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