5. "RE: right?! LOL" In response to Reply # 2 Mon Jun-18-18 05:17 PM by sersey
Jokes aside. That’s a major move. They laughed when he bought a minority stake in the Nets. They laughed when he invested in a fledgling streaming service. They laughed when he bought a little known champagne brand, and seemingly rapped its way into mainstream consciousness.
So yes... the man has a knack for elevating lesser-known but formidable enterprises into the stratosphere.
But today.... and for the foreseeable future, I still say what the fuck is a Puma basketball shoe??
27. "you should checkout the business wars podcast...." In response to Reply # 7
nike vs adidas....it was all about the founding of both companies and how they were battling it out to dominate.... so fascinating to say the least....and yes, they talk about the brothers and their falling out.
the key to happiness is not being rich; it's doing something arduous and creating something of value and then being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor
I mean I guess we all did grow up with these being streetwear and break dancer shoes. But Clyde Frazier is who these are named after. He hooped in these for years.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Mon Jun-18-18 09:41 PM
25. "You stole my reply" In response to Reply # 21
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Wed Jun-20-18 07:38 AM
40. "yup, people love overspending at these type of stores" In response to Reply # 30
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Mon Jun-18-18 08:25 PM
19. "Puma just signed Bagley and Ayten" In response to Reply # 0
This is a good look for both parties
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
31. "RE: Aka jay-z next business failure" In response to Reply # 26
Jay hasnt failed at any business yet....
dont let your hate fool you...
You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Tue Jun-19-18 09:51 AM
32. "right.. what was his first failure?" In response to Reply # 31
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
These sports dudes are TITANS of business and entertainment, music is but a paltry comparison in terms of wealth and influence.
I am sure Jay wanted to have more say and the russian owner told him to stick it up his borscht
and don't buy the conflict of interest, dude probably started liquidating his ownership stake before any of the roc sports stuff happened. its typical for entrepreneurs to downsize their investment and focus a niche if something isn't working out.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Tue Jun-19-18 05:29 PM
37. "That was clearly a Brooklyn Ambassador move" In response to Reply # 35
I wouldn’t be surprised if they gave him that 1.5% under the table.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Wed Jun-20-18 08:27 AM
43. "It makes sense to buy ad space by a basketball arena" In response to Reply # 41
not sure this is anything more than a smart marketing move.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
28. "Puma tried and failed before at this..I think they even had the NBA appa..." In response to Reply # 0
contract 1 year back in the late 90's/early 2000's.
I actually used to hoop in the pair Vince wore in the late 90's They weren't bad, but I'm a Nike guy so that was off Vince's star power/influence alone
That said, Hov would be the greatest influencer EVER if he could get cats to rock Pumas to hoop.
Ayton and Bagley aint the guys to do it- they'll need a Trae Young or someone more marketable as a flagship brand ambassador
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Tue Jun-19-18 06:57 AM
29. "Ionno man. Bagley is good. " In response to Reply # 28
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
There was an uptick in sales at some point but culturally.....nobody gives a fuck about UA shoes overall or even his shoes.
It really doesn't matter about how good the player is....that just one part of the equation. Ultimately its up to the brand and their business, marketing, design, technology, etc. This is Jay-Z 2018 not 2000's. He's not exactly the same cultural inspiration for fashion that he once was. Nobody out here trying to dress like Hov. The only thing people want to inspire to be like him is be married to Beyonce and have his bank account LOL
Could this a good thing? Sure weirder things have happened. But the chips are stacked against both parties. This is no different than Blackberry getting Alicia Keys or Swizz involved in their business. Cash grab for one.....big home run swing for the other.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Tue Jun-19-18 05:26 PM
36. "Hov will attract players because athletes want to be rappers" In response to Reply # 33 Tue Jun-19-18 05:29 PM by legsdiamond
and those players will help push the brand.
I don’t think Puma will ever grab a significant share of basketball shoes.. but they still have a cool factor in the hip hop community and I can see their athletic wear having an impact.
It really comes down to how they look. A nice looking shoe will sell.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Wed Jun-20-18 09:04 AM
45. "He's Beyonce's wife. He's good" In response to Reply # 44
Isn't Cole still signed to Jay?
I'm sure he will find a way to get in these dudes ears.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
51. "Jay may not be their arbiter of cool but Roc Nation Sports' roster..." In response to Reply # 44
is growing year over year. There are a ton of young guys, like Leonard Fournette, who wanted them Paper Planes in their sphere. His name and influence have to be accounted for.
53. "Again nobody said he doesn't have influence " In response to Reply # 51
Not sure why you keep making that argument but it's no where near what it once was. Good enough business man to get younger athletes signed to Puma sure that is possible. That doesn't equate to Puma ever getting popular or better at making ball shoes lol UA with Steph, Harper and The Rock is evidence of that. Ugly shoes are ugly shoes no matter who is wearing it. Look at Ye and his line, not all his shoes hit like the first release with Adidas.
but y’all keep saying Jay ain’t what he once was... but he has shown he can connect with the youth so I don’t see this as a bad move.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
the colorway is ugly but the actual shoe looks good
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Thu Jun-21-18 08:19 AM
61. "If I didn't have kids I would cop too..lol" In response to Reply # 60
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Thu Jun-21-18 11:24 AM
68. "no, I rather put that extra money in their 529B" In response to Reply # 62
I don't spend more than $60 on sneakers.
I'm good
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Thu Jun-21-18 11:26 AM
69. "shrugs. I disagree.. they damn sure aren't Steph UA ugly" In response to Reply # 67
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Fri Jun-22-18 09:09 AM
77. "them shits aiight bruh" In response to Reply # 73
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Thu Jun-21-18 08:10 AM
59. "not sure what Stephs ugly shoe has to do with Puma" In response to Reply # 57
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
64. "Pretty sure Steph’s 2nd shoe was the best selling b-ball shoe that yea..." In response to Reply # 57
Then they put out that low all white one that hypebeasts went overboard about how much of a “dad shoe” it looked like, and everyone else wanted to feel in on the joke.
Now two years later those same hypebeasts are all about “dad shoes”.
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