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"ProPublica has audio from a border protection facility for kids"


  

          

Everyone supporting this needs a fucking Nuremberg trial and honestly abolishing ICE isn't even going nearly far enough.

(The youtube link with the audio is in the story, and it is DISTURBING so be warned)

https://www.propublica.org/article/children-separated-from-parents-border-patrol-cbp-trump-immigration-policy?utm_campaign=sprout&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=1529351580

The desperate sobbing of 10 Central American children, separated from their parents one day last week by immigration authorities at the border, makes for excruciating listening. Many of them sound like they’re crying so hard, they can barely breathe. They scream “Mami” and “Papá” over and over again, as if those are the only words they know.

The baritone voice of a Border Patrol agent booms above the crying. “Well, we have an orchestra here,” he jokes. “What’s missing is a conductor.”

Then a distraught but determined 6-year-old Salvadoran girl pleads repeatedly for someone to call her aunt. Just one call, she begs anyone who will listen. She says she’s memorized the phone number, and at one point, rattles it off to a consular representative. “My mommy says that I’ll go with my aunt,” she whimpers, “and that she’ll come to pick me up there as quickly as possible.”

An audio recording obtained by ProPublica adds real-life sounds of suffering to a contentious policy debate that has so far been short on input from those with the most at stake: immigrant children. More than 2,300 of them have been separated from their parents since April, when the Trump administration launched its “zero tolerance” immigration policy, which calls for prosecuting all people who attempt to illegally enter the country and taking away the children they brought with them. More than 100 of those children are under the age of 4. The children are initially held in warehouses, tents or big box stores that have been converted into Border Patrol detention facilities.

Condemnations of the policy have been swift and sharp, including from some of the administration’s most reliable supporters. It has united religious conservatives and immigrant rights activists, who have said that “zero tolerance” amounts to “zero humanity.” Democratic and Republican members of Congress spoke out against the administration’s enforcement efforts over the weekend. Former first lady Laura Bush called the administration’s practices “cruel” and “immoral,” and likened images of immigrant children being held in kennels to those that came out of Japanese internment camps during World War II. And the American Association of Pediatricians has said the practice of separating children from their parents can cause the children “irreparable harm.”

Still, the administration had stood by it. President Trump blames Democrats and says his administration is only enforcing laws already on the books, although that’s not true. There are no laws that require children to be separated from their parents, or that call for criminal prosecutions of all undocumented border crossers. Those practices were established by the Trump administration.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions has cited passages from the Bible in an attempt to establish religious justification. On Monday, he defended it again saying it was a matter of rule of law, “We cannot and will not encourage people to bring children by giving them blanket immunity from our laws.” A Border Patrol spokesman echoed that thought in a written statement.

In recent days, authorities on the border have begun allowing tightly controlled tours of the facilities that are meant to put a humane face on the policy. But cameras are heavily restricted. And the children being held are not allowed to speak to journalists.

The audio obtained by ProPublica breaks that silence. It was recorded last week inside a U.S. Customs and Border Protection detention facility. The person who made the recording asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation. That person gave the audio to Jennifer Harbury, a well-known civil rights attorney who has lived and worked for four decades in the Rio Grande Valley along the Texas border with Mexico. Harbury provided it to ProPublica. She said the person who recorded it was a client who “heard the children’s weeping and crying, and was devastated by it.”

The person estimated that the children on the recording are between 4 and 10 years old. It appeared that they had been at the detention center for less than 24 hours, so their distress at having been separated from their parents was still raw. Consulate officials tried to comfort them with snacks and toys. But the children were inconsolable.

The child who stood out the most was the 6-year-old Salvadoran girl with a phone number stuck in her head. At the end of the audio, a consular official offers to call the girl’s aunt. ProPublica dialed the number she recited in the audio, and spoke with the aunt about the call.

“It was the hardest moment in my life,” she said. “Imagine getting a call from your 6-year-old niece. She’s crying and begging me to go get her. She says, ‘I promise I’ll behave, but please get me out of here. I’m all alone.’”

The aunt said what made the call even more painful was that there was nothing she could do. She and her 9-year-old daughter are seeking asylum in the United States after immigrating here two years ago for the exact same reasons and on the exact same route as her sister and her niece. They are from a small town called Armenia, about an hour’s drive northwest of the Salvadoran capital, but well within reach of its crippling crime waves. She said gangs were everywhere in El Salvador: “They’re on the buses. They’re in the banks. They’re in schools. They’re in the police. There’s nowhere for normal people to feel safe.”

She said her niece and sister set out for the United States over a month ago. They paid a smuggler $7,000 to guide them through Guatemala, and Mexico and across the border into the United States. Now, she said, all the risk and investment seem lost.

The aunt said she worried that any attempt to intervene in her niece’s situation would put hers and her daughter’s asylum case at risk, particularly since the Trump administration overturned asylum protections for victims of gang and domestic violence. She said she’s managed to speak to her sister, who has been moved to an immigration detention facility near Port Isabel, Texas. And she keeps in touch with her niece, Alison Jimena Valencia Madrid, by telephone. Mother and daughter, however, have not been able to speak to one another.

The aunt said that Alison has been moved out of the Border Patrol facility to a shelter where she has a real bed. But she said that authorities at the shelter have warned the girl that her mother, 29-year-old Cindy Madrid, might be deported without her.

“I know she’s not an American citizen,” the aunt said of her niece. “But she’s a human being. She’s a child. How can they treat her this way?”

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im amazed that common fucking sense couldnt have avoided this
Jun 18th 2018
1
The admin straight up said why they're doing it. Using it as deterrent
Jun 18th 2018
2
BUILD THE WALL!!!
Jun 18th 2018
6
      Or also he’s a white supremacist pushing slow motion ethnic cleansing....
Jun 18th 2018
8
           You can play 6 degrees of tragedy WRT the US
Jun 18th 2018
10
                Dude fuck you
Jun 18th 2018
13
                     Well that escalated quickly
Jun 18th 2018
15
                          No nigga I was venting
Jun 18th 2018
16
                               Then disregard my sincere replies...good day to you.
Jun 18th 2018
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                                    Will do, bye.
Jun 18th 2018
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They don’t want to avoid it
Jun 18th 2018
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At least 1/3 of this country identifies with the joking guard
Jun 18th 2018
5
oh i know. we were talking about it at work
Jun 18th 2018
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it's consistent with everything we've been doing
Jun 18th 2018
21
We should have been stopped at Vietnam
Jun 18th 2018
3
Russia and China are going to have to put together their own
Jun 18th 2018
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      LOL
Jun 18th 2018
12
Huckabee-Sanders couldn't even do her press conference
Jun 18th 2018
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But thumbs up to whoever just asked her "How is this not child abuse?"
Jun 18th 2018
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      THIS KRISTJEN LADY REALLY WENT TO MEXICAN RESTAURANT LAST NIGHT
Jun 20th 2018
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           Her getting heckled out of that restaurant is the best thing that's happ...
Jun 20th 2018
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this is pure evil
Jun 18th 2018
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This comment and the nested below needs more eyes..
Jun 18th 2018
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honestly we might be further down than 8
Jun 18th 2018
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      Yup, we're going to create entire new generations of brown kids
Jun 18th 2018
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           it doesn't even require people who hate the u.s.
Jun 18th 2018
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           Prison to school pipeline
Jun 18th 2018
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Trump a couple of weeks ago: I called MS13 animals, not all immigrants
Jun 19th 2018
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RE: Trump a couple of weeks ago: I called MS13 animals, not all immigran...
Jun 19th 2018
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dehumanizing
Jun 19th 2018
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I'll try to find a link
Jun 19th 2018
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ICE seems to attract the worst types of people
Jun 19th 2018
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      "I want to be a cop, but regular cops aren't racist enough"
Jun 19th 2018
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heard a christian preacher defending this saying its Gods will
Jun 20th 2018
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If there is a heaven a lot of Christians won't get in
Jun 20th 2018
33
Heard Schumer offered Trumpster the border wall
Jun 20th 2018
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the fact that i keep seeing this repeated online is so disturbing
Jun 20th 2018
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Trump - in regards to pardons.. "I can do anything I want"
Jun 20th 2018
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They also don't understand asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants
Jun 20th 2018
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Rick Wilson crushed Jason Miller last night on this
Jun 20th 2018
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"The last two administrations did the same thing! Do your research!"
Jun 20th 2018
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      basically, ive typed out so many replies on reddit
Jun 20th 2018
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      I had a very similar exchange throughout the day today.
Jun 20th 2018
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           im pretty much completely off of facebook
Jun 20th 2018
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                I'm from Western PA
Jun 20th 2018
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                this somewhat good friend of mine's wife posted a pic of
Jun 20th 2018
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                     Oh god both these scenarios sound awful.
Jun 20th 2018
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                damn. I'd guess my world is around 15% Trump supporters
Jun 20th 2018
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                     fortunately as far as actual friends are concerned
Jun 20th 2018
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                     Yea that's probably pretty accurate for me too.
Jun 20th 2018
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This administration manufactures crisis in order to gain support from th...
Jun 20th 2018
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a coworker was in LaGuardia and said he saw ICE rushing a plane full
Jun 20th 2018
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obviously not NYers
Jun 20th 2018
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just heard those kids were going to a facility in East Harlem
Jun 20th 2018
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jesus
Jun 20th 2018
58
Haitians would like a word with you on the Dems being
Jun 20th 2018
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Trump Yesterday: I can't do anything. My hands are tied. Democrats fault
Jun 20th 2018
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Trump is an arsonist AND a firefighter
Jun 20th 2018
51
American Airlines refuses to be used for flights to separate kids
Jun 20th 2018
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I predict Ginger Thompson wins another Pulitzer for this story.
Jun 20th 2018
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BrooklynWHAT
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1. "im amazed that common fucking sense couldnt have avoided this"
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splitting kids up from their parents and sending the parents home is a BRILLIANT idea. jesus fucking christ.

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2. "The admin straight up said why they're doing it. Using it as deterrent "
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to discourage folks from trying to cross the border.

At least that was the line until it wasn't anymore. They've been pushing back today's press conference for 4 hours while they try to get their story straight

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6. "BUILD THE WALL!!!"
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He's feeding his base.

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8. "Or also he’s a white supremacist pushing slow motion ethnic cleansing...."
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10. "You can play 6 degrees of tragedy WRT the US"
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that is, wherever there is calamity in our world

throughout history

the US is complicit

Putting this bullshit solely on Trump is a mistake

he'll say and do anything his base wants him to

this is the same guy that has flip flopped policy and party depending on which day of the week it was

white supremacist...sure

the bigger concern...the +60M voters that align with his beliefs

BTW, engaging in these posts isn't going to help remedy the issue you raised in your post.

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13. "Dude fuck you "
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Condescending prick. You’re so full of your own shit you didn’t take ten seconds to even see what my concern was.
Ole bitch ass

I’ll speak it slowly for you
It’s hard to balance the monotony of today juxtaposed to the abject horrors that we’re facing.

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15. "Well that escalated quickly"
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...and I gave you advice on how I personally dealt with the same thing...

is that not what you were after?

i.e. Trump headlines aren't going to help

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16. "No nigga I was venting "
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17. "Then disregard my sincere replies...good day to you."
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18. "Will do, bye. "
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4. "They don’t want to avoid it"
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State sponsored terror as a deterrent to legal immigration, asylum seeking, and illegal immigration.

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5. "At least 1/3 of this country identifies with the joking guard"
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and would gladly be him if they could.

They've just gone full mask off now.

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7. "oh i know. we were talking about it at work"
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and a good amount of folks were like "Well then they shouldnt come"

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21. "it's consistent with everything we've been doing"
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a big part of me is really unsure about how to have conversations with people about it, because cognitive dissonance really is pushing those deplorable rightward.

  

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3. "We should have been stopped at Vietnam"
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They never should have let us get away with that (c)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM5CaIIFosg

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9. "Russia and China are going to have to put together their own"
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coalition of the willing and convince Iran and DPRK to help the cause of liberating Americans from their tyrannical government. And nobody in the news media will appreciate the irony.

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I recently finished watching Ken Burns' Vietnam

I really really believe it will be the moment that we lost America.

Our entire lives have been during the decline of the empire once known as the USA

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11. "Huckabee-Sanders couldn't even do her press conference"
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So they got Kirstjen Nielsen to come out and fashsplain why these crying children are the REAL abusive monsters.

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14. "But thumbs up to whoever just asked her "How is this not child abuse?""
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Her response was "be more specific, please?"

Fucking hell

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35. "THIS KRISTJEN LADY REALLY WENT TO MEXICAN RESTAURANT LAST NIGHT"
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and got hit with the Cersei chant

also, what the fuck kind of extreme white girl name is KristJen??

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/protesters-disrupt-dhs-secretary-kristjen-nielsen-at-mexican-restaurant/


>Her response was "be more specific, please?"
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all week

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19. "this is pure evil"
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fuck anybody who supports this shit.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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20. "This comment and the nested below needs more eyes.."
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https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/8s2y9x/secret_audio_border_patrol_agent_jokes_while/e0w8arq


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Back in college, I went to the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. The exhibit that hit me the hardest was one that was ostensibly for kids: Daniel's Story. You walked into the life of Daniel, a Jewish kid in Germany around the time that the Nazis took over.

At first, everything seemed normal. His family wasn't rich, but they weren't poor either. He seemed to have a good childhood going for him. As you walked from room to room, time moved forward bit by bit. The progression was slow and it was easy to see how people could rationalize that this wasn't really bad, but was just a small change in their lives that they could get used to. By the end of the exhibit, though, Daniel was entering a concentration camp that he'd never exit from alive.

It was unnerving how smoothly the progression went. We tend to remember the "big" events of history or recall them apart from context. We don't see the slow progression and societal rationalization that gets you from Daniel's normal life to Daniel entering a concentration camp.

I really feel like we're heading down this path now. It's not a sure thing that we'll get to Nazi-style concentration camps, but neither is it out of the question. They're already dehumanizing "the other" (immigrants who are called "animals"), calling the media "the enemy of the people", and calling people who don't support Trump "traitors." (In the latter case, Trump called Democrats who didn't applaud him "treasonous.") It's not really that far a jump from where we are now to jailing reporters for publishing "FAKE NEWS", arresting any Latino or Muslim for being "illegal and/or a terrorist", and using the Justice Department to get dirt on or even arrest opposition party leaders."


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This is something that has been going around on this subreddit for a bit now, but it still needs to be seen

We are already at Stage 8 of the 10 Stages of Genocide

(Copy-pasted from another redditor)

THE TEN STAGES OF GENOCIDE by Gregory H. Stanton, Ph.D., Research Professor in Genocide Studies and Prevention at George Mason University.

Stages to watch for:

CLASSIFICATION: Dividing culture into "us" vs. "them"

SYMBOLIZATION: Giving names or other symbols to the classifications. (Classification and symbolization are universally human and do not necessarily result in genocide unless they lead to dehumanization.)

DISCRIMINATION: A dominant group uses law, custom, and political power to deny the rights of other groups. The powerless group may not be accorded full civil rights, voting rights, or even citizenship. The dominant group is driven by an exclusionary ideology that would deprive less powerful groups of their rights.

DEHUMANIZATION: One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals, vermin, insects or diseases. Dehumanization overcomes the normal human revulsion against murder. At this stage, hate propaganda in print and on hate radios is used to vilify the victim group. The majority group is taught to regard the other group as less than human, and even alien to their society.

ORGANIZATION: Genocide is always organized, usually by the state, often using militias to provide deniability of state responsibility. Sometimes organization is informal or decentralized. Special army units or militias are often trained and armed.

POLARIZATION: Extremists drive the groups apart. Hate groups broadcast polarizing propaganda. Motivations for targeting a group are indoctrinated through mass media. Laws may forbid intermarriage or social interaction. The dominant group passes emergency laws or decrees that grants them total power over the targeted group. The laws erode fundamental civil rights and liberties. Targeted groups are disarmed to make them incapable of self-defense, and to ensure that the dominant group has total control.

PREPARATION: Plans are made for genocidal killings. National or perpetrator group leaders plan the “Final Solution” to the Jewish, Armenian, Tutsi or other targeted group “question.” They often use euphemisms to cloak their intentions, such as referring to their goals as “ethnic cleansing,” “purification,” or “counter-terrorism.” They build armies, buy weapons and train their troops and militias. They indoctrinate the populace with fear of the victim group. Leaders often claim that “if we don’t kill them, they will kill us,” disguising genocide as self-defense.

PERSECUTION: Victims are identified and separated out because of their ethnic or religious identity. Their property is often expropriated. Sometimes they are even segregated into ghettoes, deported into concentration camps, or confined to a famine-struck region and starved. They are deliberately deprived of resources such as water or food in order to slowly destroy them. Children are forcibly taken from their parents. The victim group’s basic human rights become systematically abused through extrajudicial killings, torture and forced displacement.

EXTERMINATION begins, and quickly becomes the mass killing legally called “genocide.” It is “extermination” to the killers because they do not believe their victims to be fully human. When it is sponsored by the state, the armed forces often work with militias to do the killing.

DENIAL is the final stage that lasts throughout and always follows genocide. It is among the surest indicators of further genocidal massacres. The perpetrators of genocide dig up the mass graves, burn the bodies, try to cover up the evidence and intimidate the witnesses. They deny that they committed any crimes, and often blame what happened on the victims. They block investigations of the crimes, and continue to govern until driven from power by force, when they flee into exile.

(Genocide is a process that develops in ten stages that are predictable but not inexorable. At each stage, preventive measures can stop it. The process is not linear. Stages may occur simultaneously. Logically, later stages must be preceded by earlier stages. But all stages continue to operate throughout the process.)"

  

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22. "honestly we might be further down than 8"
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the "criminals" and "terrorists" we're using to justify all this shit grew up under our aegis.

the central american, central/east african, middle eastern, and central asian migrants/refugees all come from regions that were destabilized by american foreign policy. pro-american regime-change seems to be highly correlated with a "fuck you."

which is ironic because emigrants from countries that resist our influence tend to get the benefit of the doubt.

in the case of places like honduras and iraq, it was our weapons/training/money actually carrying out the genocide.

  

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23. "Yup, we're going to create entire new generations of brown kids"
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Who will grow up hating this country and what it did to them. And they're not going to be across the Atlantic. But it's fine, once those chickens come home to roost, we'll just get more and more draconian.

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24. "it doesn't even require people who hate the u.s."
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that's apparent in the "not their best" rhetoric and that sheriff from maricopa county before that.

  

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25. "Prison to school pipeline "
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Where do these imprisoned children go when released?

School.

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26. "Trump a couple of weeks ago: I called MS13 animals, not all immigrants"
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Trump today: Democrats are allowing immigrants to "infest" our country

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27. "RE: Trump a couple of weeks ago: I called MS13 animals, not all immigran..."
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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/08/donald-trump-marie-brenner-ivana-divorce

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28. "dehumanizing"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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29. "I'll try to find a link"
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but a reporter snapped photos of the detention centers and in one of them, shows a mural featuring Trump's face on it. I think about that photo every time I hear that stupid claim by Trump that the Democrats are to blame for this whole mess.

**update**

Here's a link to the photo I'm referring to: https://tinyurl.com/y7sa24dj

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30. "ICE seems to attract the worst types of people"
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how sick do you have to be to make a joke about children crying as they are being taken away from their parents?

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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31. ""I want to be a cop, but regular cops aren't racist enough""
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That's how I imagine the mentality of a person who joins ICE.

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32. "heard a christian preacher defending this saying its Gods will"
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this place is really for the birds....anyone got an extra island for sale?? my credit is decent

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33. "If there is a heaven a lot of Christians won't get in"
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34. "Heard Schumer offered Trumpster the border wall"
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/01/20/schumer-offered-trump-something-democrats-hate-to-get-something-republicans-broadly-like/

and then he moved the goalposts to DACA

as long as they spin it as america first...his base is happy

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36. "the fact that i keep seeing this repeated online is so disturbing"
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someone will say something to the effect of (and hell trump might have already parroted this)

they will say something like


"oh well i havent heard ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS to this"

"what else do you expect them to do?"

"so you mean we should just let whoever in and forget about laws" WIDE OPEN BORDERS!!!!!!!

like is this how far we've come

when people are like "stop separating children from their parents"

and people respond with "well come up with some other solution then!!!"

and people say "how about...don't separate children from their parents...?"



fucking hell

  

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37. "Trump - in regards to pardons.. "I can do anything I want""
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Trump - in regards to parent/kid separation at border - its the Dems fault talk to them

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38. "They also don't understand asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants "
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A lot of these families are being separated while attempting to pass through a port of entry, which is the legal process for claiming asylum.

McCallen TX

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39. "Rick Wilson crushed Jason Miller last night on this"
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on Anderson Cooper.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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40. ""The last two administrations did the same thing! Do your research!""
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"People want to blame Trump, but congress has to change the law!"

I'm in an ill advised back and forth with some dunce on a friend's timeline right now over this stupid shit.

After providing details and links (including video of Sessions announcing specifically we will be separating you from your children) it's:

"Well we all have the right to believe what we want "

I'm usually pretty good about wasting my time on pointless back and forths like this with dumbfucks but sometimes it's too hard.

  

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43. "basically, ive typed out so many replies on reddit"
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and then just deleted them

like wtf am i even doing


the whataboutism is a sickness right now

  

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44. "I had a very similar exchange throughout the day today."
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Also on a friend's timeline. Battling the same levels of idiocy from Trumpsters too stupid and too blinded by their inexplicable faith to this orange pile of filth to even begin to recognize the fact that they are literally at the point of defending the torture of children to stand by this administration.

I have dreams of taking out Trump supporters. I wish there were an easy way to wipe the planet clean of these atrocious snakes. It's frustrating to have to live among them and even worse, be guilty by association being that my country voted this vile administration into office.


>"People want to blame Trump, but congress has to change the
>law!"
>
>I'm in an ill advised back and forth with some dunce on a
>friend's timeline right now over this stupid shit.
>
>After providing details and links (including video of Sessions
>announcing specifically we will be separating you from your
>children) it's:
>
>"Well we all have the right to believe what we want "
>
>I'm usually pretty good about wasting my time on pointless
>back and forths like this with dumbfucks but sometimes it's
>too hard.

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45. "im pretty much completely off of facebook"
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im a white guy in texas
with lots of redneck family unfortunately

then to top it off i play foosball competitively which is a very white/midwestern thing and its a tight knit community and alot of them are fb friends with me (or were)

so its just a symphony of idiots which has caused me to abandon facebook and pretty much those people in general

  

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47. "I'm from Western PA"
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and friends of friends on timelines always talk that Trump shit

I engaged for a minute but its not worth it

whats scary is these folks send friend request so they can continue their bullshit rants

nah yo..



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50. "this somewhat good friend of mine's wife posted a pic of"
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the Fort Hood shooter

Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan

with some stupid thing about "vetting" immigrants

i was like that guy was born in the united states and is a us citzen...

then she basically backpedaled while still implying that any muslim in the military should be "vetted"

i was done after that


about a year later i was talking to him and his wife is like "hey my wife tried to message you but she said she isnt on your friends list "

i was like oh ya i probably purged a bunch of people sorry

  

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54. "Oh god both these scenarios sound awful."
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I am from and live in Boston and despite the (well-deserved) reputation for racism, there is at least a reasonable balance between "those" idiots and people with brains and common sense. Judging by time spent in both PA and TX (and what you guys just described), I imagine I'd have to log off as well and maybe even move haha. Thankfully my level of exposure to this type of derangement is relatively limited. But it's there, cause it's everywhere.

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57. "damn. I'd guess my world is around 15% Trump supporters"
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among people I actually know and interact with it. and that's annoying enough

  

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59. "fortunately as far as actual friends are concerned"
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i have a small tight knit group of friends that are nothing like that

every one of those fucks that ive ended up "friends" with via association (family and foosball) ive pretty much cut out thank god and im better for it

  

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60. "Yea that's probably pretty accurate for me too."
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42. "This administration manufactures crisis in order to gain support from th..."
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... and it sucks for American people dragged into this mess.

Updates galore:


Detainees are dressed in all black:

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1009488528093384704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%231009488528093384704

Airlines pulling out of this mess to distance themselves:

https://twitter.com/SpoxDHS/status/1009502457058201600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%231009502457058201600

ICE shut down operations in southwest Portland:

https://twitter.com/ryanjhaas/status/1009509771857104896/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%231009509771857104896

Republicans are party of legal immigration Dems are party of illegal immigration (c) Senator Corryn
https://twitter.com/JohnCornyn/status/1009394673046220806?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%231009394673046220806

  

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46. "a coworker was in LaGuardia and said he saw ICE rushing a plane full"
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of kids/immigrants through the airport in chains...

he said people started clapping

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48. "obviously not NYers"
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people here don't clap for anything

  

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53. "just heard those kids were going to a facility in East Harlem"
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?????wtf???

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58. "jesus"
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56. "Haitians would like a word with you on the Dems being "
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the party of illegal immigration.

>Republicans are party of legal immigration Dems are party of
>illegal immigration (c) Senator Corryn
>https://twitter.com/JohnCornyn/status/1009394673046220806?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%231009394673046220806

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49. "Trump Yesterday: I can't do anything. My hands are tied. Democrats fault"
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Trump Today: I'm going to do something

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51. "Trump is an arsonist AND a firefighter"
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this fucking guy

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52. "American Airlines refuses to be used for flights to separate kids"
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/airlines-trump-family-separation_us_5b2a8935e4b0a4dc992360e2

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55. "I predict Ginger Thompson wins another Pulitzer for this story."
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For Breaking News Reporting.
&
Their Breaking News Photography win will go to John Moore's photos of the baby girl crying as her mother is being detained, by ICE.

  

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