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Damali
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"#TimesUp for Chris Hardwick"


          

Short story:

His ex posted a detailed account of him emotionally and sexually abusing her but didn't name him. After she left him for another man, he had her blacklisted and forbade folks to work with her.

Multiple people have corroborated her story and come out to say, yes, they were pressured to not hire her or work w/her.

18 hrs later, he posted an very unapologetic statement basically blaming her for everything and claiming he did nothing wrong.

oh and an excerpt from his book some years ago sarcastically mirrors a very sadistic episode that Chloe spoke about in her essay

AMC cancelled his show and ComicCon disinvited him.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/16/17471082/amc-pulling-talking-with-chris-hardwick-talk-show-abuse-allegations

  

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didn't know he'd disconnected from Nerdist previously
Jun 17th 2018
1
The book thing is fake.
Jun 17th 2018
2
I didn't know what that was, is it mentioned in the article?
Jun 17th 2018
14
yeah just learned that after i posted this...ugh
Jun 18th 2018
53
Who?
Jun 17th 2018
3
Talking Dead show host. Got his start on SIngled Out on
Jun 17th 2018
4
      Ok. I don’t watch that show
Jun 17th 2018
5
he was a dickhead for sure
Jun 17th 2018
6
Damn homie. How you always find a way to be that dude?
Jun 17th 2018
7
Just curious: Why do you take her word for it?
Jun 17th 2018
9
who said I take her word for it?
Jun 18th 2018
26
you're a fucking retard
Jun 17th 2018
10
because he probably IS that dude
Jun 18th 2018
36
Then you didn't read it or don't understand the concept.
Jun 17th 2018
8
you read her medium thing i assume?
Jun 17th 2018
12
And I thought he actually might, too
Jun 18th 2018
52
um, did you read it?
Jun 17th 2018
15
I get what emotional abuse is
Jun 17th 2018
17
      you didn't answer whether or not you read it.
Jun 17th 2018
19
      I did read it
Jun 18th 2018
21
      ok so what you mean here is you should read it again.
Jun 18th 2018
22
      it's in bold so tbf you may have skimmed past it as a header
Jun 18th 2018
23
           you're really into arguing semantics and splitting hairs
Jun 18th 2018
31
                cool. tell your friends about the time you fucked a crying motionless gi...
Jun 18th 2018
50
                     he's a choker
Jun 20th 2018
70
                          you're addicted to the internet with hernia issues and a bad marriage
Jun 20th 2018
71
                               and I'm still happier than you
Jun 20th 2018
72
                                    yep, a happy guy who cant stop talking about other men on message boards
Jun 20th 2018
73
                                         mama, there goes that man again - Mark Jackson (c)
Jun 20th 2018
74
                                              the difference is I dont come on here bothering you losers
Jun 20th 2018
76
                                                   there is no difference
Jun 20th 2018
77
                                                        "you leave people alone and I stalk you, there's no difference"
Jun 20th 2018
78
      Wait, where did she specifically accuse him of rape?
Jun 18th 2018
34
           doesn't it depend on the state's interpretation?
Jun 18th 2018
43
                rape is rape.
Jun 18th 2018
44
                     hmm..
Jun 18th 2018
46
                     This is consistent with what I said.
Jun 18th 2018
48
                     she wasn't describing him grabbing her ass.
Jun 18th 2018
49
                          uh ok, but again where did she specifically accuse him of rape?"
Jun 18th 2018
                          uh ok, but again where did she specifically accuse him of rape?"
Jun 18th 2018
58
                               But I didn't misspeak.
Jun 18th 2018
62
                                    Then where did she specifically accuse him of rape?
Jun 19th 2018
65
                                         oh look at big boy setting the rules.
Jun 19th 2018
67
                                              Dumbass don't you write for a living? How can you do that if you can't
Jun 19th 2018
68
                                                   here we go again w/ the professional jealousy bit
Jun 19th 2018
69
                                                        professional jealousy? Ok. Seriously, do you understand that
Jun 20th 2018
79
      also, blacklisting your victim from the industry is a bit more
Jun 17th 2018
20
#metoo isn't just about criminal activity.
Jun 18th 2018
25
to be clear
Jun 18th 2018
33
      Except that's actually what you're doing.
Jun 18th 2018
40
           he tells on himself all the time
Jun 18th 2018
41
           I've fully accounted for her trauma, it's legitimately awful
Jun 18th 2018
42
                If his career is based on being likable, he cost himself his own
Jun 18th 2018
45
                Except you didn't.
Jun 18th 2018
47
                     okay, I can walk back "it wasnt abuse"
Jun 18th 2018
55
It is warped, because this is 100% abuse
Jun 18th 2018
37
your thinking is so warped and is exactly what #meToo is fighting agains...
Jun 18th 2018
54
      lol @ me not growing over time
Jun 18th 2018
57
           You really have to stop this.
Jun 18th 2018
59
           Im legitimately not playing dumb or devil's advocate here
Jun 18th 2018
60
                Are you actually making a distinction between 'assault' and 'violence?'
Jun 19th 2018
64
           clearly, your growth has fallen short in this area
Jun 18th 2018
63
                lol @ me deciding or determining
Jun 19th 2018
66
                     you fucking obtuse little piece of shit
Jun 20th 2018
81
                          I skimmed and saw a bunch of profanity. good luck being belligerent
Jun 20th 2018
82
RE: #fuckChris Hardwick
Jun 17th 2018
11
I heard he was trying to buy AMC n/m
Jun 17th 2018
13
knew that was coming
Jun 17th 2018
16
Ya'll need to stop with the stupid shit
Jun 18th 2018
24
      plus its not even funny anymore
Jun 18th 2018
27
      Right and it makes the victim look bad in the eyes of idiots
Jun 18th 2018
29
      I'm sure most people know this, but
Jun 18th 2018
28
           In my experience most people don't
Jun 18th 2018
30
                Wait, what?
Jun 18th 2018
32
                     Yeah man, do a fb search for Bill Cosby Did Not Try to Buy NBC
Jun 18th 2018
35
what she described was abuse
Jun 17th 2018
18
yup AMC's statement is exactly that
Jun 18th 2018
56
Not surprising at all.
Jun 18th 2018
38
I used to listen to it back when he would bring her in for the intro
Jun 18th 2018
39
      I do recall hearing one of those
Jun 18th 2018
51
           Yeah, other listeners said they noticed similar things in hindsight
Jun 20th 2018
80
*strokes beard wisely, deep in thought*
Jun 18th 2018
61
Hardwick: but she cheated!!!
Jun 20th 2018
75

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1. "didn't know he'd disconnected from Nerdist previously"
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glad she's telling her story.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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2. "The book thing is fake. "
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Which sucks it’s making the rounds because it discredits some if there accusations. With that said - his statement was utter trash.

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14. "I didn't know what that was, is it mentioned in the article?"
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Damali
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53. "yeah just learned that after i posted this...ugh"
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3. "Who? "
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Don’t know him but he’s white so throw him out with the trash.

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4. "Talking Dead show host. Got his start on SIngled Out on "
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MTV with Jenny McCarthy back in the day

  

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5. "Ok. I don’t watch that show"
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6. "he was a dickhead for sure"
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but I dont remember reading anything that constituted abuse

she was unstable, he took advantage of it (not that this was okay), but "he used me for sex and was controlling" isnt quite Me Too territory

men are losing careers and being lumped in with Harvey Weinstein/Bill Cosby because exes consented to being treated poorly

maybe my thinking is warped because of the fucked up relationships I've been on both ends of. every situation involving a famous man doesnt need an exposé though

  

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7. "Damn homie. How you always find a way to be that dude? "
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Aren’t you the one who said we should belive women when they make claims?

She said she couldn’t get work because he put the word out...

That’s some Metoo shit bruh

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9. "Just curious: Why do you take her word for it?"
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Is there any collaborations?



I stopped reading after she said she let a dude control her life after 2 weeks.

  

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26. "who said I take her word for it? "
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I'm just pointing out dudes hypocrisy.

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10. "you're a fucking retard"
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I believe everything she said

and it doesnt come off as abusive to me

  

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36. "because he probably IS that dude"
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8. "Then you didn't read it or don't understand the concept. "
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>but I dont remember reading anything that constituted abuse

  

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12. "you read her medium thing i assume?"
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i can see how that might push some buttons

i'm struggling with how her blog doesn't really read like closure to me and loses the focus on the warning too, but she'd know her mental health situation and the mindset of potential/current victims better than i would, so...

he was always too comfortable dipping his toes across the line on @midnight. i'm inclined to read his public persona as the kind of shit you see on college campuses with fake feminist bros.

hopefully he'll treat it like a wake-up call? misogyny and abusive relationships are mental health issues just as much as alcoholism is a disease. he can grow from it if he accepts it.

  

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52. "And I thought he actually might, too"
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>hopefully he'll treat it like a wake-up call? misogyny and
>abusive relationships are mental health issues just as much as
>alcoholism is a disease. he can grow from it if he accepts it.

But it's clear from his initial statement that's not happening.

How hard is it for an "I remember our relationship differently, but I apologize for the pain I caused her?" It still doesn't make it right, but it at least makes it seem like you're capable of basic empathy and understanding.

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15. "um, did you read it?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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17. "I get what emotional abuse is"
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Sun Jun-17-18 10:12 PM by atruhead

  

          

from her account he wasnt violent and she chose to stay, looking for a silver lining

someone on Twitter worded it well:

"we should separate assholes from dangerous people"

but because culture is (finally) shifting towards holding men accountable with (white) women, assholes are lumped in with dangerous people and the new hot thing is "fire him for being shitty to his ex-girlfriend"

  

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19. "you didn't answer whether or not you read it."
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she specifically accused him of rape.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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21. "I did read it"
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I wouldnt be in here speaking up otherwise

I dont recall it verbatim, but I dont remember rape

I remember "he used me for sex" and "I felt pressured to give in when I didnt want to"

she wanted to paint him in the shittiest way possible (she's well within her rights if that stuff is true) but she stopped short of the r word

  

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22. "ok so what you mean here is you should read it again."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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23. "it's in bold so tbf you may have skimmed past it as a header"
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"…Including let him sexually assault me. Regularly. I was expected to be ready for him when he came home from work."

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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31. "you're really into arguing semantics and splitting hairs"
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if you Control+F the word "rape", it literally never appears

yes she alleges sexual assault, which she goes on to describe as "this was expected of me. I didnt want to, but he threatened to leave" to me that reads like consent under shitty terms. like a dead end job that was killing her soul, the opposite of a loving and healthy relationship

her self-worth was in the toilet and she was taken advantage of, no it isnt okay. but just typing the words "sexual assault" in bold then explaining a scenario that doesnt match that (or failing to detail an actual assault) is enough to get people angry in this era

  

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50. "cool. tell your friends about the time you fucked a crying motionless gi..."
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and see what that is.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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70. "he's a choker "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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71. "you're addicted to the internet with hernia issues and a bad marriage"
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but sure, bring up a point I made about an ex's kinks to distract from your shitty life

  

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72. "and I'm still happier than you"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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73. "yep, a happy guy who cant stop talking about other men on message boards"
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I cant wait to be that happy one day

  

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74. "mama, there goes that man again - Mark Jackson (c)"
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you don't even realize when you do it.

the hypocrisy in your posts are hilarious.

all you do is throw shade, insult folks while claiming you are "growing" as an individual.

you cried real tears about folks using your confessions against you then do the same thing.

just own it bruh

now lets get back to your ignorance on #metoo, it's good entertainment




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76. "the difference is I dont come on here bothering you losers"
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If I tell you you're a loser, it's because you've successfully annoyed me enough to remind you

  

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77. "there is no difference"
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just own it

we all see it.

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78. ""you leave people alone and I stalk you, there's no difference""
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here we are once again because you brought bullshit into the post and Im still feeding in

keep being happier than me with your shitty life

  

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34. "Wait, where did she specifically accuse him of rape?"
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>she specifically accused him of rape.
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>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at


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43. "doesn't it depend on the state's interpretation? "
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44. "rape is rape. "
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Having sex with someone without their consent. There are state by state variations of what constitutes consent (age, intoxication, etc.) but what constitutes rape is a pretty easy concept to grasp (which I am sure everyone here knows).

She used the term sexually assaulted but sexual assault includes everything from grabbing someone's ass to rape. So it's not clear what she was describing when she said she was sexually assaulted.

I had to google starfishing but I think having sex with a partner who doesn't feel like having sex ALONE I don't think constitutes sexual assault much less rape.


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46. "hmm.."
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According to the U.S. Department of Justice; “Sexual assault is any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling and attempted rape.” There are also even more specific guidelines to what sexual assault is when looking at your own state. Specifically, the Code of Virginia § 18.2-359 covers the general description of sexual assault for the commonwealth of Virginia.

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48. "This is consistent with what I said. "
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Rape is sexual assault but not every sexual assault is rape.



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49. "she wasn't describing him grabbing her ass."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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"uh ok, but again where did she specifically accuse him of rape?""


  

          

Is there where you do that thing where instead of answer a direct question you give short snarky empty responses?

Otherwise, it's okay to say you misspoke.



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58. "uh ok, but again where did she specifically accuse him of rape?""
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Is there where you do that thing where instead of answer a direct question you give short snarky empty responses?

Otherwise, it's okay to say you misspoke.



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62. "But I didn't misspeak."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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65. "Then where did she specifically accuse him of rape?"
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If you can't point to it, then you misspoke. To close this out, if you don't respond by answering the question, we will have our answer.


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67. "oh look at big boy setting the rules."
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no.

she specifically accused him of rape. you know that's what it says which is why you tried your "it could be ass grabbing" dodge.

he knows it too, that's why it's the only thing he specifically denied.

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68. "Dumbass don't you write for a living? How can you do that if you can't"
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read?

She specifically accused him of sexual assault**. He specifically denied Sexually Assaulting her. Do you understand the basic fact that rape is a form of sexual assault but not all sexual assault is rape. Sexual assault can be all sorts of unwanted sexual contact including ass grabbing (you do understand I didn't give an exhaustive list of sexual assault but was just giving an example).

How can you discuss this topic if you don't understand these basic concepts?

Do yourself a favor, read up before getting responding.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault







>no.
>
>she specifically accused him of rape. you know that's what it
>says which is why you tried your "it could be ass grabbing"
>dodge.
>
>he knows it too, that's why it's the only thing he
>specifically denied.
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at


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69. "here we go again w/ the professional jealousy bit"
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I guess that's the way to go when the facts don't support you.

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79. "professional jealousy? Ok. Seriously, do you understand that"
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not all sexual assault is rape and rape is just one form of sexual assault? In other words, just because someone was sexually assaulted doesn't mean that they were rape? In smaller words, a woman's ass who was grabbed was indeed sexually assaulted, but that act alone doesn't mean she was raped?

Can't have this discussion if you don't know the basics of the language.


I said it before but I mean it this time, I will tap out if you can't answer this very basic, straight forward, plain english question.



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20. "also, blacklisting your victim from the industry is a bit more"
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than just "being a shitty ex"

that's professional misconduct at the absolute minimum, and ongoing stalking

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25. "#metoo isn't just about criminal activity. "
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I think there was a time I would have read an account like this an only be interested to see if a crime had been committed too.

But why? If dude treated someone like shit and tried to blackball them to silence them, why shouldn't she share that story?

If he has a different account, he should share it. But I am guessing from his statement I am guessing he doesn't have a his side of the story that makes him look like less of an asshole.

You say "every situation involving a famous man doesnt need an exposé" but why not? Why are we trying to protect assholes?


>but I dont remember reading anything that constituted abuse
>
>she was unstable, he took advantage of it (not that this was
>okay), but "he used me for sex and was controlling" isnt quite
>Me Too territory
>
>men are losing careers and being lumped in with Harvey
>Weinstein/Bill Cosby because exes consented to being treated
>poorly
>
>maybe my thinking is warped because of the fucked up
>relationships I've been on both ends of. every situation
>involving a famous man doesnt need an exposé though


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33. "to be clear"
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broadly, #MeToo was designed to make it hard for rapists, sexual harassers and the like to keep working

your ex being awful to you goes in another category somewhere. im not trivializing her trauma, she has the right to come forth about it. but yeah if every shitty partner (of either gender) deserved to be called out, the stories would never stop

  

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40. "Except that's actually what you're doing."
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>im not trivializing her trauma<

And I think you need to get clear on what #MeToo is about.

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41. "he tells on himself all the time"
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he always says he's not doing what he is actually doing in a post..

*waits for more insults and obsession accusations*

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42. "I've fully accounted for her trauma, it's legitimately awful"
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but I dont know if it's "cost him his career" awful

  

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45. "If his career is based on being likable, he cost himself his own "
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career by being an asshole to someone.

She told her version of events. He can tell his version.

Folks will decide which version is true.





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47. "Except you didn't."
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You decided that what she clearly describes as abuse was just her having a 'shitty partner.'

If there was ever a textbook definition of trivializing someone's trauma, this is certainly it.

  

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55. "okay, I can walk back "it wasnt abuse""
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37. "It is warped, because this is 100% abuse"
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>maybe my thinking is warped because of the fucked up
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54. "your thinking is so warped and is exactly what #meToo is fighting agains..."
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But i'll let others educate you, if they have the patience, cuz after 15 years of seeing you post this kinda bullshit, i don't.

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57. "lol @ me not growing over time"
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>But i'll let others educate you, if they have the patience,
>cuz after 15 years of seeing you post this kinda bullshit, i
>don't.

anyway, for clarity's sake I made sure to look up #MeToo and what it represents. I didnt see anything in Chloe Dykstra's story that falls under that banner

now if you feel that cases like this *should* be lumped in with #MeToo, that lends itself to a separate discussion

as a writer, Im big on words/phrases/ideas and their literal definitions, not what people wish to interpret

so yeah Chris Hardwick is guilty of being a toxic/emotionally abusive lover, but if he did anything that goes with what MeToo is against, she didnt make a great case for that

  

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59. "You really have to stop this."
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I posted a link (to you, in fact) to how the FOUNDER of #MeToo describes the intent of the movement. In her own words.

*and*

You really have to stop trying to diminish what Chloe describes. YOU don't get to characterize it how you see fit.

  

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60. "Im legitimately not playing dumb or devil's advocate here"
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my understanding (confirmed by the link you sent) is that Me Too hones in on sexual violence (or even harassment)

Chloe typed the words "sexual assault" and then didnt really make a great case for it (unless something else happened that she omitted)

Im not here to diminish anything. he denies sexual assault, nothing she said described that, that's all Im going off of

  

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64. "Are you actually making a distinction between 'assault' and 'violence?'"
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And then accused someone else above of 'semantics' and 'splitting hairs?' C'mon dude... your hypocrisy is showing. Again, you really have to stop. You are out of your depth, here. As Damali says below, this is a blind spot for you and you would do well to a) acknowledge that, and b) shut up.

  

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63. "clearly, your growth has fallen short in this area"
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you've got multiple people showing you where your blind spot is and you refuse to acknowledge you have one and try to learn

YOU don't get to decide or determine what is or isn't a #meToo issue

  

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66. "lol @ me deciding or determining"
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>you've got multiple people showing you where your blind spot
>is and you refuse to acknowledge you have one and try to
>learn

>YOU don't get to decide or determine what is or isn't a #meToo
>issue

I thought I knew what fell under the hashtag
I double checked and I was correct

you want other things to fall under it, have fun

  

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81. "you fucking obtuse little piece of shit"
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VICTIMS OF ABUSE AND HARRASSMENT ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN SAY #METOO

the phrase itself is literally an affirmation that this happened to me and i need to speak about it and the very act of them speaking out AUTOMATICALLY falls under #meToo

so FUCK YOU.

listen and learn you fucking mansplaining cretin...you ain't correct about shit cuz it isn't ABOUT YOU.

this is the last time i'm ever going to reply to you. you are a waste of fucking space.

motherfucking babies are in cages so i have NO PATIENCE for y'all today.

FUCK YOU JESSE.

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82. "I skimmed and saw a bunch of profanity. good luck being belligerent"
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11. "RE: #fuckChris Hardwick"
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13. "I heard he was trying to buy AMC n/m"
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16. "knew that was coming"
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24. "Ya'll need to stop with the stupid shit"
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/1992/10/29/business/the-media-business-bill-cosby-trying-to-buy-nbc-from-ge.html

This was actually in the news in 1992 before TCS went off the air, read it myself in the NYT since my high school library had a subscription.

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27. "plus its not even funny anymore"
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29. "Right and it makes the victim look bad in the eyes of idiots"
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when people spread false information just to prove a point. It does nothing but give them less of a chance of being taken seriously. Sexual assault ain't nowhere near funny.

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The joke is more a shot to dummies who think all these women came out the woodworks because he wanted to buy NBC.

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30. "In my experience most people don't "
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they think it's something people came up with as a means to justify his behavior. I've seen tons of posts on social media saying how ridiculous the notion is and using it to fire back at people.

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32. "Wait, what? "
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I have never seen anyone use this as anything but a joke on why Cosby was accused.

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35. "Yeah man, do a fb search for Bill Cosby Did Not Try to Buy NBC"
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it could just be a local thing for me but most of what I've seen is pretty much people saying he didn't try to do it.

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18. "what she described was abuse"
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peace to all the women with the men in here saying otherwise.

i need this to be followed through on, vetted etc.

i think due process is important with any of this, but I support his shows being pulled and him not being on the scene while the vetting happens.

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56. "yup AMC's statement is exactly that"
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they are looking into but in the meantime, the show is paused

I drive Uber..if a passenger says I looked like i was driving impaired in some way(either sleepy, drunk, etc) Uber will immediately place my account on hold then give me an opportunity to explain myself. But in the meantime, I cannot drive. due process.

  

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38. "Not surprising at all. "
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If you used to listen to the dynamic of his Nerdist podcasts way back in the day, and how self-centered and self-reverential they all were, this fits right in. That she was so much younger than him and completely immersed in the culture he somehow named himself king of etched it. He can deny all he wants, too much of this seems perfectly within his persona.

  

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39. "I used to listen to it back when he would bring her in for the intro"
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while they were still dating. She never seemed sure of when she was/wasn't "allowed" to say something, which was always played as a joke but just seems so much creepier now.

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51. "I do recall hearing one of those"
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I can't remember who was on that I had downloaded an episode of his podcast, but it stuck out as weird at the time.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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80. "Yeah, other listeners said they noticed similar things in hindsight"
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and apparently they used to go in on her after she broke up/left the show

  

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61. "*strokes beard wisely, deep in thought*"
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"Ahhhh, it was merely sexual abuse, not sexual assault? This. changes. everything."

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75. "Hardwick: but she cheated!!! "
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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/details-leaked-text-messages-between-195209484.html


Last week, Chloe Dykstra accused her ex-boyfriend Chris Hardwick of emotional and sexual abuse.

In an explosive essay, she claimed she was forced to have sex with a man 20 years her senior who also forced her to follow strict rules. While she didn't name him outright, many people were quick to speculate that the man she was referring to was Hardwick, who she dated from 2012 to 2014.

Hardwick denied the sexual abuse allegations and said their relationship ended only because she cheated.


That claim is seemingly backed up by a long text exchange between the former couple back in 2014 that was recently leaked by TMZ.

"Some things have recently come to my attention and I believe I have a much more accurate picture about everything that's been going on particularly with you and Sam," Hardwick wrote.


Hardwick goes on to accuse Dykstra of cheating on him with a man he works with and that even though she claimed she wanted a break from their relationships to focus on herself, she still continued to see "Sam."

He also says that what Dykstra and "Sam" did was the "worst thing anyone has ever done" to him. And in so many words — well, a lot of words — he says this will be the last time he ever speaks to her.

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Dykstra replied saying "please don't" and asked him for a few minutes of his time to talk. When he doesn't reply, she says, "I will always love you." and "I'm sure I'll always regret this."

Seven months later, Dykstra texts him again and asks when they'll be okay.

"I'm sorry, I shouldn't have texted you," she writes. "I think I just got caught up in a wave. I hope things are awesome with you."


In her original essay, Dykstra admits to having become involved with another man.

She said she and man — presumably Sam — kissed, and when she told Hardwick about it he "turned a total 180" and begged her not to leave him.

"He begged me not to leave him, even told me he was planning to propose; despite stating previously he had no intention to marry me. I knew this all stemmed from his fear of being alone (He actually got engaged very shortly after I left him) so luckily I remained strong in my resolve to leave him, despite my only desire for three years being that he loved me the way I loved him," she wrote.


After the breakup, Dykstra claims Hardwick got her fired and blacklisted her from future work, thus steamrolling her career.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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