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"Gayle King Thinks #MeToo Needs Due Process"


          

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/magazine/gayle-king-thinks-metoo-needs-due-process.html

You’ve talked about the potential for backlash to the #MeToo movement. How do you see that playing out?

I do worry about that, because I think when a woman makes an accusation, the man instantly gets the death penalty. There has to be some sort of due process here. All of these inappropriate behaviors are not all the same.

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Is being fired a particularly harsh punishment?

In some cases, yes.

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But what about the rumors that some of these men will have a comeback?

Sometimes it just doesn’t seem as if they’ve really taken a hit. It depends on who you’re talking about. We’re talking in generalities here, because many of the cases are different, but what I do know is you can’t come back if you don’t get the lesson and you haven’t acknowledged that you behaved badly.


thoughts?

shut up already, damn

  

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I think I'm standing behind her on this one
Jun 13th 2018
1
you might want to stand beside her
Jun 13th 2018
2
      LOL
Jun 13th 2018
11
      Hi-yooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 13th 2018
49
She's right.
Jun 13th 2018
3
guess there's no need to keep wondering
Jun 14th 2018
53
      yeah, the people claiming they need nuance
Jun 14th 2018
54
           LOL
Jun 14th 2018
55
she right.
Jun 13th 2018
4
ugh. another one - Khaled
Jun 13th 2018
5
No snark...I hope that you can come back and explain your side of this n...
Jun 13th 2018
10
how is there a side of this?
Jun 13th 2018
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see below. even the loser claiming due process applies out of court
Jun 13th 2018
27
RE: how is there a side of this?
Jun 13th 2018
33
      who has said they can't?
Jun 13th 2018
39
           RE: who has said they can't?
Jun 13th 2018
46
                her post said that Gayle is not right.
Jun 13th 2018
48
#51
Jun 13th 2018
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Please debunk habeas corpus too while you're at it.
Jun 13th 2018
16
      you are now held in contempt of court.
Jun 13th 2018
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           Due process is a concept that, to the intelligent person,
Jun 13th 2018
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                where's my due process?
Jun 13th 2018
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                Wait so now due process might apply to all actions?
Jun 13th 2018
25
                     so now you admit you weren't following your rule
Jun 13th 2018
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                I move to strike the prosecution's claim on grounds it lacks evidence.
Jun 13th 2018
22
this Jamie Foxx issue might the first one where I'm like waiiiit what?
Jun 13th 2018
6
Elaborate plz.
Jun 13th 2018
7
googles
Jun 13th 2018
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      Not to post jack (I had no idea about the Foxx story so clicked)
Jun 14th 2018
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           Lord lord
Jun 14th 2018
72
Let's just criminalize the whole male hetero experience
Jun 13th 2018
30
Way too hard to make sweeping generalizations
Jun 13th 2018
9
Has it really been six months since we executed Louis CK?
Jun 13th 2018
12
In retrospect, the selfie I took with his corpse may have been in bad ta...
Jun 13th 2018
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      I admit, as gross as I thought he was
Jun 13th 2018
36
who the fuck asked?
Jun 13th 2018
13
Audie Cornish
Jun 13th 2018
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      oh, so you just take her word for it without evidence?
Jun 13th 2018
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           check the tapes!!! check the tapes!!!
Jun 13th 2018
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                we must follow due process, it's only right
Jun 13th 2018
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Ehh...kinda feels like you have to play the court of public opinion angl...
Jun 13th 2018
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it is deeply weird
Jun 13th 2018
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Did you see the story on unprocessed rape kits?
Jun 13th 2018
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      thousands upon thousands upon thousands
Jun 13th 2018
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Yeah, "what about due process" assumes that law enforcement cares
Jun 13th 2018
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What kind of due process are folks even looking for?
Jun 13th 2018
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gotta hear both sides?
Jun 13th 2018
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      What's stopped guys from giving their side?
Jun 13th 2018
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           In some instances, I think their workplaces are stopping them
Jun 13th 2018
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           How many famous men have been accused that haven't
Jun 13th 2018
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           I can't respond to an accusation that this is happening
Jun 13th 2018
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           they usually respond.. some lawyer up first.. and some admit the shit
Jun 13th 2018
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                but this isn't any kind of #MeToo story
Jun 13th 2018
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                     I'm talking about how public opinion can be swayed by a story or post
Jun 13th 2018
45
                          dude was actually arrested though
Jun 13th 2018
47
the numbers don't support that claim, also it's Gayle King n/mfm
Jun 13th 2018
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I'll start here: correct on both
Jun 13th 2018
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      Thanks for the breakdown... n/m
Jun 14th 2018
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      RE: I'll start here: correct on both
Jun 14th 2018
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           Yes, they are
Jun 14th 2018
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           you could investigate this and find out.
Jun 14th 2018
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which of these dudes died? Really
Jun 14th 2018
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The SMU football team got the death penalty in the 80s...
Jun 14th 2018
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DEAD!!!
Jun 14th 2018
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We can't joke about something GAYLE KING said now?
Jun 14th 2018
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I can't joke the joke?
Jun 14th 2018
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      Is that what's going on here?
Jun 14th 2018
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           Yes - Marv Albert
Jun 14th 2018
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so you agree that gayle king's statement is bullshit. cool.
Jun 14th 2018
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good morning!
Jun 14th 2018
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UGH.
Jun 14th 2018
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She's Right. #facts
Jun 14th 2018
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1. "I think I'm standing behind her on this one"
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2. "you might want to stand beside her"
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shut up already, damn

  

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11. "LOL"
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49. "Hi-yooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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3. "She's right."
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We tried to have this discussion about "nuance" and "context" on this very board a few months ago but the topic was still too hot. Wonder if that's still the case.

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53. "guess there's no need to keep wondering "
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>We tried to have this discussion about "nuance" and "context"
>on this very board a few months ago but the topic was still
>too hot. Wonder if that's still the case.

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54. "yeah, the people claiming they need nuance"
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still can't find an actual situation it applies to, but they won't stop looking for some weird reason.


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4. "she right."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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5. "ugh. another one - Khaled"
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maybe i'll come back tomorrow to patiently explain to y'all (yet again) why she's NOT right.

I gotta go drive.

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10. "No snark...I hope that you can come back and explain your side of this n..."
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17. "how is there a side of this?"
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there is absolutely no justification for what she's saying.

no one has received any death penalty.

it is a non-thing.

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27. "see below. even the loser claiming due process applies out of court"
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Wed Jun-13-18 02:53 PM by Rjcc

  

          

also wants to judge others without applying said process. because he only wants what he thinks is due process in one specific area.

it's not argument or a side at all, it's a misdirection.

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33. "RE: how is there a side of this?"
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>there is absolutely no justification for what she's saying.
>
>no one has received any death penalty.

I'm fairly certain that her "death penalty" line was hyperbole. And due process doesn't have to be a judicial thing.

Most of the cats that have been caught up in this have eventually copped to it. That's fine. Send them on their way.

I don't see a problem with allowing someone to present their side of the story to show that they may not have done what they're accused of.

  

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39. "who has said they can't?"
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that's not a side.

and if they haven't received the death penalty then let's be precise in our language.

what exactly has happened, and based on what?

because if you look at what people have actually gotten, I don't know how you would describe that as not due process.


but that would involve an actual description of what we're talking about and not admitted "hyperbole"

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46. "RE: who has said they can't?"
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>that's not a side.
>
>and if they haven't received the death penalty then let's be
>precise in our language.
>
>what exactly has happened, and based on what?
>
>because if you look at what people have actually gotten, I
>don't know how you would describe that as not due process.
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>but that would involve an actual description of what we're
>talking about and not admitted "hyperbole"
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at


No one has said they can't. Damali's post indicated that she thought the opposite about what Gayle was saying, therefore I wanted to understand her (Damali's) side. Let's not play the semantics game, man.

  

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48. "her post said that Gayle is not right."
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which is accurate, but it doesn't imply anything about a side.


it's like I said, there are no sides in this because the thing that Gayle is claiming is a problem, simply doesn't exist.

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52. "#51 "
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16. "Please debunk habeas corpus too while you're at it."
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18. "you are now held in contempt of court."
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please imprison yourself wherever you are until one of out hypothetical bailiffs is able to reach you, since we're in an imaginary court of law.


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20. "Due process is a concept that, to the intelligent person,"
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can apply outside of a courtroom setting.

And, again to the intelligent person (so definitely not to you), "the death penalty" could be used as a figure of speech.

  

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21. "where's my due process?"
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how have you applied that to my response before you judged it?

where's my fucking hypothetical lawyer?

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25. "Wait so now due process might apply to all actions?"
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Weren't you just implying that it only applied to the actions of courts?

I find you guilty of sophistry.




  

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26. "so now you admit you weren't following your rule"
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you are hereby sentenced to one million years in hypothetical jail.

just stay where you are and wait for the bailiff, your appeals have been denied.

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22. "I move to strike the prosecution's claim on grounds it lacks evidence."
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where's the judge?

what kind of kangaroo imaginary court is this?


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6. "this Jamie Foxx issue might the first one where I'm like waiiiit what?"
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hunh?
he did...and you wai....huh?

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7. "Elaborate plz."
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8. "googles"
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http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/13/jamie-foxx-accused-penis-slap-las-vegas-police-report/

yeah, this sounds suspect as hell.

shut up already, damn

  

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61. "Not to post jack (I had no idea about the Foxx story so clicked)"
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but this article had a link about Kady Kyle (Parker McKenna Posey) from "my wife and kids".

I use to think Jennifer Freeman was such a cutie on that show and Kady was...well, a kid.

Then I saw these:
http://www.tmz.com/photos/2018/06/14/kady-kyle-from-my-wife-and-kids-all-grown-up-hot-photos/images/2018/06/13/parker-mckenna-posey-hot-tbt-photos10-png
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O_o

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https://i0.wp.com/onlyjayraw.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/IMG_9280.jpg?fit=1242%2C1531
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a0/cb/a8/a0cba80313c181124edbd44fedede8f6.jpg
https://ecelebrityfacts.com/images/35890/parker-mckenna-posey-35890-11835-1486031481.jpg
https://blackdesirefashion.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/23163989_1887800128215595_6740075337046032384_n.jpg?w=1080&h=1350
http://lzimages.lazygirls.info/parker_mckenna_posey_photoshoot_iDqOPjoZ.sized
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She's 22 now. And yeah, now I feel old.

She's stunning though.

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72. "Lord lord"
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30. "Let's just criminalize the whole male hetero experience "
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>hunh?
>he did...and you wai....huh?

  

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9. "Way too hard to make sweeping generalizations"
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There have been some instances where men have been struck hard after accusations have been made some some instances where men are still able to work and collect paychecks, so IMO, it's a bit tough to make sweeping generalizations about this #metoo situation.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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12. "Has it really been six months since we executed Louis CK?"
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>I do worry about that, because I think when a woman makes an
>accusation, the man instantly gets the death penalty.

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36. "I admit, as gross as I thought he was"
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They did not need to behead Kevin Spacey and put his head upon a pike for all to see. That was too far.

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13. "who the fuck asked?"
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15. "Audie Cornish"
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shut up already, damn

  

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19. "oh, so you just take her word for it without evidence?"
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where's the tape?

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23. "check the tapes!!! check the tapes!!!"
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shut up already, damn

  

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24. "we must follow due process, it's only right"
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28. "Ehh...kinda feels like you have to play the court of public opinion angl..."
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just to get to the due process part

The Cosby allegations were out there for a long fucking time

it wasn't until the court of public opinion decided to hear the case that he faced legal ramifications

I'm sure Weinstein was no revelation either

I follow her logic, some of the accused are going to suffer disproportionate penalties...and some may even be innocent

But part of the issue is the accusers are not taken serious legally and their cases weren't moving past the accusation phase

seems like a catch 22 to say...we should have faith in our legal process...when that legal process has failed for so long IRT sex crimes.

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29. "it is deeply weird"
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to hear black men arguing that actually, the justice system has the best way to handle things and it should be applied everywhere at all times.

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31. "Did you see the story on unprocessed rape kits?"
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https://www.iamevidencethemovie.com/

These women actually went to the police

had rape kits done

and were still ignored by the legal system

http://www.endthebacklog.org/california

Gayle's missing the point with her reply IMO

-1 making that statement as a black woman.

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34. "thousands upon thousands upon thousands"
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I met a math dude at the university here who was working on an algorithm just to try and help police predict how many serial rapists they'd find based on these unprocessed kits and the numbers are staggering.


like, dragged women kicking and screaming off the street, and then were never ever caught even though their victims reported the crimes.

but we're worried that things are going too far

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38. "Yeah, "what about due process" assumes that law enforcement cares"
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When we know that's not really the case.

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32. "What kind of due process are folks even looking for?"
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There's none in the court of public opinion and I've gotta admit that I believe just about every allegation bc we all know a grimy dude or two and have probably engaged in some griminess of our own.

At work? It's all business decision... these companies aren't firing highly paid employees on a mere allegation.

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35. "gotta hear both sides? "
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shut up already, damn

  

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37. "What's stopped guys from giving their side?"
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40. "In some instances, I think their workplaces are stopping them"
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No one wants their company associated with this scandal, because ultimately these companies only care about keeping up appearances and keeping the money flowing. I think there's some pressure on some of these guys to stand down. I don't have any proof, I'm just making a guess because I know people who know people that got caught up.

  

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41. "How many famous men have been accused that haven't"
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given their side?

Weinstein put out a "I'm too busy bringing down Trump and the NRA to remember this and here's a fake Jay-Z quote" statement the day the first NYT article came out.

Louis had a statement
Spacey used his to come out of the closet to distract
Franken stayed talking about it
Cosby had two different days in court

Maybe I am missing someone, but who has had their job prevent them from saying something?

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43. "I can't respond to an accusation that this is happening"
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based on a passed on rumor from unnamed people.

this is how "due process" falls apart.

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42. "they usually respond.. some lawyer up first.. and some admit the shit"
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but the initial public opinion is strong as hell

There was a dude who was accused of breaking a woman's arm, knocking a second woman out over a traffic dispute. He spent 11 days in jail. Turns out these 2 women had a history of fabricating traffic incidents and jumping on hoods to fake injuries in parking lots.

The initial story tho? Dude was a monster..

http://wgntv.com/2018/06/12/charges-dropped-against-oregon-driver-accused-of-breaking-womans-arm/

crazy ass story

shut up already, damn

  

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44. "but this isn't any kind of #MeToo story"
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it's literally getting due process in the courts

every part of the argument doesn't apply

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45. "I'm talking about how public opinion can be swayed by a story or post"
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one tweet and folks go ham..

by the time you respond you are looking guilty as hell regardless of your side being told

shut up already, damn

  

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47. "dude was actually arrested though"
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his problem wasn't a tweet.

(also, he did punch their window, the trouble he was in was mostly because of what he did do, they just lied crazy on top of it)

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50. "the numbers don't support that claim, also it's Gayle King n/mfm"
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51. "I'll start here: correct on both"
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Gayle King is not known for being particularly knowledgeable or eloquent or current on social issues...that aside

the #metoo movement has not yet gone far enough...especially when far more concern is shown for the men that have been affeccted by the exposure than for the women they victimized..named and unnamed. for every woman that comes forward, there are 2, 3, 4 or more that didn't and simply quit their job, ended their career from being discouraged, lost the confidence to continue, were blackballed...etc etc

Weinstein singlehandedly ended Mira Sorvino's career by spreading a rumor that she was difficult to work with. No one would hire her. he cost her money. and that's just one case we know about

Matt Lauer, the Ren and Stimpy dude, Louis C.K....so many women that they demeaned and harrassed and molested simply gave up.

where is the concern or remorse or renumeration for them?

So no. too many women have been sacrificed at the altar of patriarchy. for patriarchy to end, men have to lose a little bit of footing...that's not about revenge; its about making space for fairness and equality. to make space, you gotta move. period.

none of these dudes have died. only 2 so far have actually been arrested...the rest are sitting in the wings waiting for the right time to make their comeback, which WILL be allowed because patriarchy

but there's no comeback for most of the women that have spoken out, so far. their names are not so easily unmuddied..they are forever scarred as the slut who lied to get fame and money

so no. fuck this misplaced concern for men who cling to toxic mores and behaviors and hide behind the social contract that says its "not that bad" or "not real assault". nope.

this shit is just getting started.

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60. "Thanks for the breakdown... n/m"
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63. "RE: I'll start here: correct on both"
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>but there's no comeback for most of the women that have spoken
>out, so far. their names are not so easily unmuddied..they are
>forever scarred as the slut who lied to get fame and money.

Really?

Are there people aside from say your mistermaxes or your Cosby-NBC shippers who see it this way?


  

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65. "Yes, they are"
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Look at the social media mentions of any national (or local) politician who said Al Franken needed to go.

Or read this by one of the women who named Louis CK
http://www.vulture.com/2018/05/louis-c-k-put-me-in-a-lose-lose-situation.html

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71. "you could investigate this and find out."
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or you could just deny it.


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56. "which of these dudes died? Really"
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folks taking the death penalty literally?

good lawd.

shut up already, damn

  

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57. "The SMU football team got the death penalty in the 80s..."
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Oh yeah??? When were the players executed? Did they hang them or give then the electric chair??

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59. "DEAD!!! "
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No wonder this site fell off

All those folks who posted DEAD actually died

shut up already, damn

  

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64. "We can't joke about something GAYLE KING said now?"
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66. "I can't joke the joke?"
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shut up already, damn

  

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67. "Is that what's going on here?"
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68. "Yes - Marv Albert"
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shut up already, damn

  

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70. "so you agree that gayle king's statement is bullshit. cool."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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58. "good morning!"
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how's everyone?

IG: amadu_me

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62. "UGH."
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So, so, so problematic.

Her posture, this entire narrative is dripping with patriarchy. Blech.

  

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69. "She's Right. #facts"
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