BrooklynWHAT Member since Jun 15th 2007 85056 posts
Tue Jun-05-18 09:42 AM
1. "im gonna recommend going to your local Fleet Feet (or similar specialty ..." In response to Reply # 0
and having them analyze your gait (toe, heel or flat striker?), foot structure and all of that.
i interviewed there once (should've gotten the job but thats another story) and they put me through the whole process just to show me what they do and it's on point.
i don't run much these days aside from when i play soccer but i keep a pair of Nike Vomero's on deck for that.
10. "I forget how much my back surgery was (insurance)" In response to Reply # 8 Tue Jun-05-18 10:06 AM by MEAT
But between my surgery, PT, MRIs, epidurals, medicines, various chiropractics, random risk of injury, the constant need to stay core healthy, fear of jumping/baseball/golf/some sexual positions ... just to name a few things I would strongly warn anyone that the back is no joke.
When you say you’ll jog instead of run, what kind of running did you have in mind?
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25. "have you started walking?" In response to Reply # 19
back in July last year i was terribly out of shape, still am but not as much. I started walking a path that is about 3.5 miles from my door and back to my door. my avg mile was about 22 minutes back then just walking. fast forward to now, i started running as i lost weight, i can do 10 minute miles on treadmill and about 11 minute miles on pavement for about 3-5 miles at a time. when i first started running in november i messed up my knees pretty badly where they didn't really heal until January. not sure if it was my shoes, feet, form, weight or what. went to Fleet Feet in January and had them measure me out and been running once or twice a week since then.
if you're worried about knee, ankle, joint, etc... pain then just walk for a while. i still regularly walk that trail and my walking pace has improved to from 22 minutes per mile to about 16.5 minutes per mile.
It's gonna depend on your orthotics. New Balance are good whether you under/over pronate because the heel is so wide and flat. They aren't cheap..but we're talking about your knees/shins/ankles etc.
6. "alladis..." In response to Reply # 1 Tue Jun-05-18 09:55 AM by tariqhu
this helps get a better understanding of your run style. you normally try a few pair and actually go outside and run in them.
or you could hit the web to find shoes suited for flat feet and buy those. I'm have lil to no arch either, but its not something I think about when I'm buying shoes. never had a real arch issue that needed addressing.
with that said, I'm partial to Adidas running shoes, with Boost.
21. "I take note of what they recommend...then go buy it online cheaper" In response to Reply # 1
My son joined the middle school running club so my wife took him to Big Peach running and they came home with a $$$ pair of New Balance. After I calmed down I went online and found the same pair, almost 50% less.
I'm a heavy dude and they recommended Hoka Ones, for the cushioning. I thanked them, bought a water bottle and some socks, then copped the Hokas on clearance from Academy Sports online.
36. "What Vomero are you using?" In response to Reply # 1
They are on 13 now? I loved the series but I started getting turned off when they used the same last three years in a row (7 through 9). I thought about buying later models on clearance but they seemed to fade from public consciousness and look more cheaply made. How are 10 to 13?
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3. "I hate running, I do walk a good deal..." In response to Reply # 0
and I am very fond of Brooks...particularly, the Adrenaline GTS line. That said, if you can...I 100% agree with the recommendation above and going for a fit session...it's completely worth it.
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12. "keep your options open to MANY brands. There's more than just Nike &..." In response to Reply # 0 Tue Jun-05-18 10:08 AM by FLUIDJ
out there.
Before I started running I was laser focused on finding the best Nikes...just because I thought Nike was the default best... I haven't ran in Nike in over 5 years now lol...
Brooks & Mizuno have been my goto for a minute. I found that lighter weight, lower padded shoes work better for me and result in less soreness in my legs. I used to have serious "skin" issues when I ran in heavy Nikes & New Balance.... The best way to describe it is that my legs & feet would start itching REALLY REALLY bad about 10-min into a run. To the point where I couldn't really ever get into it. The minute I switched shoes to Brooks Green Silence (RIP) all of that stopped immediately and my running has been great ever since.
Find a store with a solid return policy too! GOOD running stores will let you return worn shoes within a reasonable time.
"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins
17. "Best running shoes. Brooks, New Balance, and Asics. Nike's are no good " In response to Reply # 0
Nike Marketing is great, but the shoes are not that comfortable. . . Current Favorite Song: https://youtu.be/8v_KFHnPImY
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34. "IMO Nike on average lags behind its running competition" In response to Reply # 27
They go for straight-up step-in comfort for the most part, with the exception of the Zoom Fly and 4% series that they just launched. The LunarEpic was that and could have been more but it had some fatal flaws. The one Nike series I used to love was the Vomero series, from 3 to 6 it was unfadeable. But most of their models are not very structurally sound. The Zoom Fly was cool (very fast, unique build, too) and the Lunar React is a nice step forward (too bad the bball version still sucks), but both have huge durability issues. I wore my Zoom Flys maybe five times and they already started fraying around the sole, and the midsole was riddled with compression marks. For $150 that is pathetic.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79554 posts
Tue Jun-05-18 10:21 AM
18. "I don't run but I like Saucony's" In response to Reply # 0
they aren't attractive but every time I cop a pair or try them on they feel legit
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64. "kinvaras are great cushioned minimal shoes" In response to Reply # 29
I've really enjoyed using them; they're a softer than like the NB Minimuses or (fuck no) the Five Fingers, but still close enough to zero drop that you're close to "natural" running.
35. "Yeah I got a couple pairs for my GF after she was having some issues" In response to Reply # 18
She was wearing Nikes and experiencing some stiffness, also they were too heavy (AM stuff). I got her a pair of Ultra Boosts, which she liked, but based on her feedback I thought some Saucony Grid and Iso models (neutral cushion but not minimalist type stuff) would work. She loved them but said "well they aren't much to look at but I love the way they feel." I think if you avoid the louder colors (almost impossible to do in women's models, unfortunately), they look OK, I got some black/grey ones with essentially no branding and they look pretty clean, also some grey/blue ones that I found in both our sizes that look passable. Very good performers though.
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26. "i've been running on New Balance 880 v7 since February" In response to Reply # 0
I love them so far.
i have a wide foot (10.5, 2E) and New Balance is a brand i can consistently find shoes i like in my size. have yet to try other running shoe brands like Brooks or Saucony but I've seen a few that look fresh.
32. "everyone's feet are different, plus shoe models change every year" In response to Reply # 0
all you can do is get measured properly and find out about your stride, then find the right one by trying on a bunch of them and know that you'll have to rotate them out eventually.
33. "Not much of a runner but I wear running shoes to the gym and study em" In response to Reply # 0 Wed Jun-06-18 02:09 PM by ConcreteCharlie
Brooks Beast and its spinoff (can't recall the name) both have good support, arch support and motion control. If that is too beefy for you maybe got for the Trasncend on Adrenaline. The Dyad series used to be really good, accommodated orthotics really well and had a nice mix of cushioning and support. I gave a pair to my dad and he wore them into the ground. That was the 5 or 6, I think they are 9 or maybe 10 now so I dunno how they developed. The old Asics Gel Evolution were awesome but since discontinued, if you can find a pair they will be cheap. The Foundation is their go to for support now, it's fine but not as good IMHO. Mizuno runners are underrated IMHO, I like the Enigma series, if you want serious support/control get the Paradox. All this stuff should be relatively inexpensive online if you don't get the very most recent model.
I am not a big fan of minimalist runners but if you want something like a road flat, Mizuno Wave Universe is an incredible shoe. Probably not great for falling arches though.
If you just want cushioning and more cushioning maybe the Adidas Ultra Boost (or the firmer ST version) and the aforementioned Brooks Transcend is also a great choice. Enigma series is also well cushioned as is the Ultima series from Mizuno. I haven't tried any of those weird Roku shoes but they seem to have a lot of padding. Saucony ISO stuff is also nice, but again not much arch support.
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40. "Ultra Boost 3.0 seems unusable for running to me" In response to Reply # 33
Because the upper stretches so easily.
But I believe I’ve heard that the first 2 versions used a sturdier and less stretchy knit for the upper, at least in comparison to the 3.0. Not sure about the 4.0’s. But I definitely won’t even bother doing much running in the 3.0’s.
49. "The ST version had better structure" In response to Reply # 40
Hers were actually the uncaged version which might be straight up dangerous for running. But all she does is treadmill and track jogging, nothing serious.
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50. "It was so dumb and counter-intuitive, irresponsible trade press!" In response to Reply # 46
How in the fuck did anyone think that not wearing shoes was better than wearing shoes for your feet, ankles and knees? There were barefoot training for some elite runners ... ON GRASS. If you were into that (also you, Joe Schmoe, are probably not an elite runner), just save the money and run barefoot on grass. Definitely heavier people buying into that BS were totally crazy. When I would see a 5'8", 210 pound guy wearing those, I would just want to shake some sense into him.
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48. "They were based on made-up science and looked dumb" In response to Reply # 38
That's not a sound business model, and they were justly mocked into near-extinction.
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55. "there was a movement everywhere." In response to Reply # 53
shit was hot across the board for a minute.
case #3907840937403 for why people shouldnt be quick to hop on hype trains and cutting edge trends that run contrary to tried and true methods that have been around for decades/centuries.
60. "I don't wear Vibram Fivefingers" In response to Reply # 53
but I do wear minimalist sneakers to the gym; specifically the Merrell Vapor Gloves. I used to wear the Fivefingers in the past but gave them up because they simply weren't durable enough for the money spent on them. I like wearing minimalist shoes because they are easiest to run with a forefoot stances with compared to traditional sneakers with thicker heels.
Not saying everyone should rock minimalist shoes, especially if they cause you to get injured, but they aren't completely useless either.
"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.
62. "Not all of the Merrell minimalist shoes" In response to Reply # 61
are as flat and minimal as the Vapor Gloves, just so you know.
Overall, you should wear what you are comfortable with. Speaking for myself, I've weaned myself off of sneakers with thick heels for so long, I can't go back to traditional sneakers.
"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.
58. "Don't the soles get trashed though?" In response to Reply # 52
It is odd how there used to be some mid top runners and tons of midtop trainers but now the former is very very rare and the latter isn't all that common either. Puma used to have some awesome full-length Cell trainers that I ran stairs at the stadium with in high school. Not much like that on the market today, even the Nike ones that do drop after borderline lifestyle shoes.
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