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imcvspl
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"Poll question: Still riding for Elon Musk? "


  

          

This dude is fucking fast tracking his way to evil FL villain like nobodies business.

Poll result (10 votes)
Yup, can't wait for my model 3 (4 votes)Vote
SpaceX or bust (1 votes)Vote
Wait he's dating Grimes and she changes her name to C (speed of light) (1 votes)Vote
Did he really quote a sex cult about the integrity of journalism (2 votes)Vote
I was done after they said the factory can't use safety colors cause he hates yellow (2 votes)Vote

  

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I never really was.
May 28th 2018
1
my only gripe with the car in space
May 28th 2018
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RE: I never really was.
May 28th 2018
4
RE: I never really was.
May 28th 2018
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RE: I never really was.
May 29th 2018
19
      flag on the play: exploiting the fact that wide-eyed engineers...
May 29th 2018
20
           RE: flag on the play: exploiting the fact that wide-eyed engineers...
May 29th 2018
21
           everyone is excited over "potential "
May 29th 2018
26
                Tech engineer vs automotive / rocket engineer....
May 29th 2018
27
                     ** nods ** ok.... i see from a different perspective.
May 29th 2018
28
           I'm not trying to argue that anyone 'deserves' high pay, tech or otherwi...
May 30th 2018
29
                late-capitalism
May 30th 2018
30
                     Maybe.
May 30th 2018
31
                          microplastics/pollution in general ruining the biosphere
May 30th 2018
32
https://youtu.be/3JpV5dU8BxA
May 28th 2018
5
Never did... his bait and switch game is the truth tho
May 28th 2018
2
Pravda? I wonder how he feels about the Russian meddling thing?
May 28th 2018
7
hell nah. not even for the Tesla
May 28th 2018
8
A limousine liberal.
May 28th 2018
12
      > A limousine liberal. <=Anyone who uses this term is a REAL jerk
May 28th 2018
13
      haha.. man, that shit is the perfect description of a rich liberal tho
May 29th 2018
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      Not any kind of 'liberal' is more like it.
May 30th 2018
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never did, though I don’t hate him anymore than the other rich aholes
May 28th 2018
9
I'll ride for him even harder when they release smaller compact Tesla...
May 28th 2018
10
that isn't happening any time soon
May 29th 2018
16
Fuck him and 99.9% of all billionaires
May 28th 2018
11
Erik Prince is running amok - lets focus on his ass.
May 29th 2018
15
lol, so you are an Elon musk fan?
May 29th 2018
23
He's garbage and has been
May 29th 2018
17
I am beginning to think the tech billionaires are worst than the
May 29th 2018
18
Goes back to the Kanye convo
May 29th 2018
24
He's still a billionaire, right?
May 29th 2018
22
this is still the same asshole selling flamethrowers: the boring company
May 29th 2018
25
lmao.. those aren't really for sale right?
May 30th 2018
33
not only that but they sold out like...quickly
May 30th 2018
34
how is that even legal? smh...
May 31st 2018
36
      yall better get ready.....
May 31st 2018
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      FUCK. math is...they made 10m off that.
May 31st 2018
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check it
May 31st 2018
37
shit...i want one lol
May 31st 2018
44
      chorus: if you want it... you can have it....
May 31st 2018
45
           throw flames
May 31st 2018
47
           like mario brothers....
May 31st 2018
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           it was supposed to be for creme brulee
May 31st 2018
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                to seal the blunt.
May 31st 2018
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everyone gon be riding w/Elon if that tunnel system to alleviate traffic
May 31st 2018
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so like a frontage road.... but underground and electrified
May 31st 2018
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like a fwy system of tunnels underground...there were many questions lik...
May 31st 2018
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I take the occasional tunnel every know and then but long trips?
May 31st 2018
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      you wont actually "drive" in the tunnel..it drives you
May 31st 2018
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           i read "cars" wrong... I get his plan
May 31st 2018
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He is going to do an interview with real journalist Joe Rogan
Jun 11th 2018
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Dude like fuck being a public company I'm rolling with Saudi princes
Aug 13th 2018
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Saudis like... Oh really (link)
Aug 20th 2018
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LMAO, Grimes went from tweeting random emojis to defenses
Aug 13th 2018
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Azealia Banks waiting at Elon Musk's house for Grimes for Days. wtf?
Aug 13th 2018
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      LMAO, just walking around his futuristic compound
Aug 14th 2018
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      https://twitter.com/fuckrashida/status/1030958564519555073
Aug 20th 2018
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           im thinking elon saw her crazy vs his crazy..said fk it..and bounced
Aug 21st 2018
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Trust no millionaire, trust no politician
Aug 13th 2018
55
adding the azalia banks housesitting / kidnapping story arc
Aug 21st 2018
60
This place stay on Weirdo Mode. Now Musk is a Problem.. SMH
Aug 21st 2018
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Why wasn't he before?
Sep 07th 2018
64
oh SNAP!
Sep 07th 2018
67
Your guy's hitting the blunt with Joe Rogan now
Sep 07th 2018
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dude is so weird
Sep 07th 2018
65
outside of tech...he seems like an awkward naive child.
Sep 07th 2018
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      Yeah, his feud with the British diver is some middle school shit
Sep 07th 2018
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Post #52
Sep 07th 2018
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      He makes it look so lame, too
Sep 07th 2018
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SEC charges Tesla CEO Elon Musk with fraud
Sep 27th 2018
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Tesla’s Elon Musk settles with SEC, paying $20 million fine and resign...
Sep 29th 2018
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      This dude's dedication to posting online cost him so much
Oct 01st 2018
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as a cowboys fan im still mad about his fake spike
Oct 01st 2018
73
This cat Twitter beefing with the SEC
Oct 04th 2018
75

stravinskian
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1. "I never really was."
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I was offended when I first heard there was an electric car company named after an anti-relativity crackpot. (physics beef...)

And that car in space thing was stupid, wasteful, and scientifically dangerous. The car was not properly sterilized for a situation where it could eventually crash into a planet or moon. Space agencies have protocols for this kind of thing. But when you're just a rich fucker, unaccountable to anyone, I guess you don't need protocols.

I have a lot of friends who work at his companies now. And good for them for making money. But I hope they find something better to do soon.

Oh, and Tesla and SpaceX are reputed to be the worst places to work in silicon valley. This is not even including the safety in the factories, which is hard to assess, because they seem to be outright lying about it.

  

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3. "my only gripe with the car in space"
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is that it looked dumb

  

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4. "RE: I never really was."
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>And that car in space thing was stupid, wasteful, and
>scientifically dangerous. The car was not properly sterilized
>for a situation where it could eventually crash into a planet
>or moon. Space agencies have protocols for this kind of thing.
>But when you're just a rich fucker, unaccountable to anyone, I
>guess you don't need protocols.

What were the chances of landing anywhere except for earth?


>Oh, and Tesla and SpaceX are reputed to be the worst places to
>work in silicon valley. This is not even including the safety
>in the factories, which is hard to assess, because they seem
>to be outright lying about it.
>
>

Nope, Apple.

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6. "RE: I never really was."
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>Nope, Apple.

Gross competence vs gross negligence?


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19. "RE: I never really was."
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Tue May-29-18 08:58 AM by stravinskian

          

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>>And that car in space thing was stupid, wasteful, and
>>scientifically dangerous. The car was not properly
>sterilized
>>for a situation where it could eventually crash into a
>planet
>>or moon. Space agencies have protocols for this kind of
>thing.
>>But when you're just a rich fucker, unaccountable to anyone,
>I
>>guess you don't need protocols.
>
>What were the chances of landing anywhere except for earth?

Well, there's the short-run and the long-run. I have a friend who published a paper about its long-term trajectory, for as long as it doesn't crash into something, and if I remember correctly they found chaotic motion that could eventually take it to nearly any planet or moon in the solar system. But that's the long-run ... millions of years, assuming it lasts that long.

The more concerning issue, as far as contamination goes, is the possibility of a near-term collision with a planet or a moon (like in the next hundred years or so). The original target for the car was a heliocentric orbit trailing behind Mars. The problem is, there's a major potential well at that radius -- Mars itself. If they'd miscalculated the trajectory, there was a very plausible chance that it could have crashed into Mars, contaminating one of the most important test cases for astrobiology that we've ever had.

And as a matter of fact, they DID significantly miscalculate the trajectory. Thankfully the car didn't crash directly into Mars, but it is moving toward the asteroid belt, where there are a large number of smaller and even more unpredictable scattering objects that could send the car back toward Mars, Jupiter, or possibly even Saturn.

The likelihood of such a grave error was always small. I don't think anyone ever did a careful estimate (and therein lies the problem), but the order-of-magnitude estimates I've heard were somewhere on the order of a 1% probability of crashing into a planet in the near-term. But when we're talking about the purity of some of the most important data sets in the history of scientific research, that's too much.



>>Oh, and Tesla and SpaceX are reputed to be the worst places
>to
>>work in silicon valley. This is not even including the
>safety
>>in the factories, which is hard to assess, because they seem
>>to be outright lying about it.
>>
>>
>
>Nope, Apple.

Well, and Amazon. Everyone has their problems.

The problems I'm alluding to at Tesla and SpaceX have to do with low pay and benefits, by general SV standards but especially when you account for the expected work hours. The story is that they're exploiting the fact that wide-eyed engineers are excited to be working on the new space program, when really they're not.

  

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20. "flag on the play: exploiting the fact that wide-eyed engineers..."
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say what now....

do tell... what is the lowest salary for a silicon valley tech engineer at a brandname company... hell i'll take an offbrand company ??

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21. "RE: flag on the play: exploiting the fact that wide-eyed engineers..."
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Not answering your question but musk's union rant kind of reveals his valley esque naive about physical engineering. I thin more than exploiting as mentioned above he's using the Detroit model as the thing to disrupt and basically saying trust me while he has no experience. The engineers with options few and far between are more excited by the potential despite th reality.


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26. "everyone is excited over "potential ""
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even without potential i personally believe its hard to exploit a sv tech engineer....

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27. "Tech engineer vs automotive / rocket engineer.... "
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Not really apples for apples. And the job market for the latter is much smaller and more legacy making the startup in industries that haven't had startups exciting.

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28. "** nods ** ok.... i see from a different perspective."
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BEFORE YOU JUDGE ME, make sure you're perfect.

"I'm hella Black, and irresponsibility ain't my culture. Yall niggas just gon have to own that as individuals"- Boo

  

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29. "I'm not trying to argue that anyone 'deserves' high pay, tech or otherwi..."
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I'm just pointing out the relative conditions at Musk's companies, and the fact that he's still able to hire people based on their own naive excitement about the mission, excitement that tends to wear down quickly.

But entry-level workers at SpaceX are paid half of what they'd be paid for similar work at Facebook. And those entry-level workers (many of them with PhD education) don't usually stick around long enough to get past the bottom rung. SpaceX has one of the highest burnout rates in the tech world, and that appears to be by design.

I was surprised to learn from this article that I currently make more money *in academia* than my colleagues who went to SpaceX. And they have to pay rent in southern California.

https://www.payscale.com/career-news/2017/08/spacex-low-pay-high-stress-and-a-chance-to-be-part-of-history

  

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30. "late-capitalism"
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there's like 6 different phrases related to markets failing us here.

you should add something about someone getting pregnant or plastics in the break room.

  

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31. "Maybe."
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Or maybe Elon Musk is a piece of shit. Or maybe both. I only came here to argue the latter, though.

Plastics in the break room? Am I missing a reference?

  

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32. "microplastics/pollution in general ruining the biosphere"
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We don’t need supervillains to point the finger at when drive throughs and body washes might be enough to doom us.

Musk rates about an 8 on the evil scale to me, but I think it’s mostly unintentional, and your average person might be untintentionally around a 6.5.

  

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5. "https://youtu.be/3JpV5dU8BxA"
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>Oh, and Tesla and SpaceX are reputed to be the worst places to
>work in silicon valley. This is not even including the safety
>in the factories, which is hard to assess, because they seem
>to be outright lying about it.


https://youtu.be/3JpV5dU8BxA

SPECTRE!

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2. "Never did... his bait and switch game is the truth tho "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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7. "Pravda? I wonder how he feels about the Russian meddling thing?"
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8. "hell nah. not even for the Tesla"
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VOLVO OR GTFO

(unless you're Volkswagen, then you can GTFI)

but LOL, this dude got caught with his pants down over that "socially liberal, fiscal conservative" bullshit. he's just like the rest of the rich motherfuckers mooching off everyone else

  

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12. "A limousine liberal. "
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he's just
>like the rest of the rich motherfuckers mooching off everyone
>else

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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13. "> A limousine liberal. <=Anyone who uses this term is a REAL jerk"
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>he's just
>>like the rest of the rich motherfuckers mooching off
>everyone
>>else
>
That's some right wing terminology there - and fuck them.

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14. "haha.. man, that shit is the perfect description of a rich liberal tho"
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cause those fucks are the worst.

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35. "Not any kind of 'liberal' is more like it."
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9. "never did, though I don’t hate him anymore than the other rich aholes"
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MLB: Mets / Soccer: PSG
NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets

  

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10. "I'll ride for him even harder when they release smaller compact Tesla..."
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We need a real life Tony Stark to keep the world a brighter place...

  

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16. "that isn't happening any time soon"
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and that's why dude ain't shit IMO. He got 400K people to put a down payment on a 35K Tesla and then a year later is like "sike, it's going to be 75K"

only thing good about Elon is he is pushing other car companies to do what he can't or won't do because the profit margin isn't there.

plus he is always promising some new shit before he delivers on his old new shit.



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11. "Fuck him and 99.9% of all billionaires"
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He made his money on PayPal by finding a way to skirt finical regulations and put the profit in his own pocket. (It's how people get rich as fuck, but there's no dignity or respect they earn from it in my book.)

SpaceX is doing LEO bullshit are trying to turn a profit on it - NASA should be doing that.

he's juut straight LYING about Tesla cars. He doesn't give a shit about a $35k car - he's making cars for upper middle class fucks who should be buying a Prius and donating money to Greenpeace if they really gave two fucks about the environment.

And he's so anti-labor it's crazy.

Is almost like being a rich egomaniac makes you anti-human is 99.9% of the cases.

Now even his Stans are seeing that his ant-press campaign is exactly like Trump's campaign he's butthurt again.


I hope Tesla goes the fuck out of business and is sold to a company that can market them honestly - as status symbols.

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15. "Erik Prince is running amok - lets focus on his ass. "
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/erik-prince-foreign-meddling-investigation-180404112637986.html

Erik Prince and the US foreign meddling investigation

by Creede Newton
6 Apr 2018

Erik Prince is a powerful man who has spent much of his influential career behind the scenes.

It wasn't until revelations about his private armed forces company, Blackwater, began to surface during the US war in Iraq that his name gained notoriety.

Today, Prince has a new reason for public scrutiny: suspicions of being the link between US President Donald Trump's team, the United Arab Emirates, and a Russian financier.

The controversy surrounds Prince's alleged attempts to initiate backchannel communications between the Trump administration and the Russian government at a meeting attended by the UAE's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan (MBZ) in January 2017.

Move to the UAE
Prince has a long history with the UAE that is firmly planted in his private military business and the needs of the oil-rich Emirates.

After the US invaded Iraq in 2003, Blackwater became a go-to company for private soldiers to bolster American forces on the ground.


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Empire interview with Erik Prince
These mercenaries, contracted by the US government, were implicated in the fatal shootingsof dozens of Iraqi civilians.

The US Congress held hearings on the company's conduct in 2007 and recommended that Xe - one of the many names Blackwater has held since the controversies began - be dropped as the US' main private security firm.

Following the move, lawsuits and indictments of high-level Blackwater commanders continued.

In a suit brought against Prince by Iraqi civilians, former Blackwater employees and US military personnel alleged that Prince viewed himself as a "Christian crusader" and that he may have had a source planning to reveal Blackwater abuses killed.

Prince moved to the UAE in 2010. Reports from the time said he made the move to escape possible criminal charges from the US government. The US and UAE have no extradition treaty.

Prince was awarded a $529m contract by the UAE in 2011 to assemble an 800-man private military force to quash possible pro-democracy revolts that were sweeping the Middle East during the Arab Spring, as well as the execution of external "special operations", the New York Times reported.

Although the UAE contracts many security firms for domestic use and continues its military operations in Yemen, it seems that Prince has received special distinction.

Reports show UAE officials took steps to hide his identity in 2011, while providing vast sums of money for the billionaire to tweak operation plan and continue training for his private battalion, the New York Times reported.

Prince hired dozens of Colombian mercenaries, reports say, as he did not trust Muslims to kill other Muslims.

An Australian was killed fighting alongside hundreds of Colombian mercenaries in Yemen in 2015. It's assumed these foreign combatants are employed by Prince-linked companies.

Bannon connection
In a November 2017 hearing related to Prince's suspected role as a facilitator for meetings between the Trump team, a Russian banker and UAE officials, Prince told members of the US Congress he had known former White House adviser Stephen Bannon - a far-right ideologue widely seen as the architect of the Trump administration's anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim policies - since 2013.

During the 2016 election, Prince said he supported Trump "momentarily" (PDF) by providing the campaign with documents on foreign policy positions and "what should be done on Middle Eastern or African counterterrorism issues".

These papers were sent to Bannon, the "only guy" Prince "knew pretty well".

"I think I remember Steve Bannon saying they had met with either Mohammed bin Zayed or someone like that and he was a great guy," Prince told US legislators.

While Prince left the United States in 2010, he never stopped being a generous donor to conservative political movements. Filings from the US Federal Elections Commission show Prince donated roughly $150,000 to pro-Trump political groups during the 2016 election cycle.

One of the organisations, Make America Number 1, received the bulk of his funding.
The group is a Super Political Action Committee, a controversial type of modern political advocacy organisation that can raise unlimited amounts of money from people, unions and corporations.

Make America Number 1, in turn, paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to two companies linked to Bannon.

Cambridge Analytica, a voter-profiling company cofounded by Bannon and conservative mega-donor Robert Mercer, received more of the funding from Make America Number 1, filings with the Federal Elections Commission show.

Another company Bannon cofounded with Mercer, Glittering Steel, focused on video production and received tens of thousands of dollars from the Super PAC.

UAE, Russia and Trump
Prince's sister, Betsy DeVos was named the US secretary of education by Trump in November 2016. She was confirmed by Congress in February 2017.

In spite of this familial connection to the Trump cabinet, Prince denied to Congress that the UAE viewed him as a gateway to the US president, saying he never "purported or positioned to having any great access to the Trump administration".

Prince said his meeting in Seychelles in January 2017 with the UAE officials - which included MBZ and some of his brothers, although they did not discuss anything specific - ended with an Emirati recommendation to meet Kirill Dmitriev at the hotel bar.

Dmitriev is head of the Russian Direct Investment Fund, a sovereign wealth fund founded by the Russian government to attract investment to its economy.


Prince testified to the US Congress about his meeting with Dmitriev
Prince said he met with Dmitriev for roughly 20 minutes. Dmitriev did not express interest in working with the Trump administration, nor did the two men discuss sanctions relief.

The only US-Russia cooperation the men discussed was shared interest in defeating "Islamic fascism".

"If Franklin Roosevelt could work with Josef Stalin to defeat Nazi fascism, then certainly Donald Trump could work with Vladimir Putin to defeat Islamic fascism," Prince recalled telling Dmitriev.

Still, reports suggest that George Nader - a former adviser to MBZ, the de facto leader of the UAE - has testified that the Prince-Dmitriev meeting was arranged so members of the Trump team could meet a Russian emissary to discuss future relations.

Nader was also at the Seychelles meeting. He and Prince have business connections, including the fact that Nader was hired as a business development consultant with Blackwater during its time in Iraq.

Prince maintains his role in the Seychelles meetings, both with the UAE and Dmitriev, was purely in his own private interest.

Other articles in this series
Mueller's Web: The UAE-Trump Connection, an Al Jazeera interactive displaying connections between major players related to Trump and the UAE.



SOURCE: AL JAZEERA NEWS

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23. "lol, so you are an Elon musk fan?"
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just seems odd to try and get folks to pivot in this thread

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18. "I am beginning to think the tech billionaires are worst than the"
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Wall Street Billionaires. Mainly because the Tech Billionaires believe their own bullshit about them doing good.


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24. "Goes back to the Kanye convo"
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Can't tell the self made nothing. After they cross a threshold all they will have is yes folk around them. They believe their own hype and a very narrow perspective of the word.

Wall Street successes tend despite nepotism and white privileges still have to put in that work, faced failures and generally had checks and balances in place.

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22. "He's still a billionaire, right?"
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That means he's terrible. Easy easy.

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25. "this is still the same asshole selling flamethrowers: the boring company"
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https://www.boringcompany.com/not-a-flamethrower/


its all fun and games until you have a mentally unstable person flame torching everything and everyone.... ( which i would love to see actually, no bullshit)

and when the blue teams shoots ... they gotta shoot 'em with rubber bullets and beanbags because you could potentially violate someones civil rights....

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33. "lmao.. those aren't really for sale right? "
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34. "not only that but they sold out like...quickly"
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36. "how is that even legal? smh..."
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he had to buy all these just for hype.

who the fuck?

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38. "yall better get ready....."
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https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Elon-Musk-can-sell-flamethrowers-California-12955493.php



"SACRAMENTO — California lawmakers added fuel to Elon Musk’s entrepreneurial fire when they cleared the way for sales of the investor’s newest — and probably hottest— product: personal flamethrowers."

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50. "FUCK. math is...they made 10m off that. "
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errr, 10m was gross but I don't know what the profit was on that.
still, to sell out 20 fucking thousand units on a 500 dollar item is...just what am I doing with my reality?

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37. "check it"
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https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/05/31/fire-in-the-hole-elon-musks-flamethrowers-could-soon-be-on-the-way/

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44. "shit...i want one lol"
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45. "chorus: if you want it... you can have it...."
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stay woke.

but in all seriousness.... wtf does one do with a flamethrower.....


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47. "throw flames"
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I bet burning man had a ton of folks with them

seems like a nice novelty act for a rich drunk party goer

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i mean... lol.

would you be a responsible flamethrower?
using only in designated areas and the whatnots? not as a replacement for a gun lets say....

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49. "it was supposed to be for creme brulee"
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51. "to seal the blunt."
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39. "everyone gon be riding w/Elon if that tunnel system to alleviate traffic"
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catches on..they are about to test it here in LA..with two tunnels...one running along next to the 405 and one running parallel to the 105...the way he was talking at the town hall...underground tunnels for cars is going to be whats up.....hundreds and hundreds of tunnels below the surface..... as long and youre more than 50 ft under the surface...theres no issues with earthquakes, utilities or nada... he answered all the questions at that town hall meeting... also a vaccum tunnel train to get you from LA to SF in 1 hr..700 mph..




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1SCB-WEToM

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40. "so like a frontage road.... but underground and electrified "
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im here for the hyperloop tho' - sf-la... best believe.

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42. "like a fwy system of tunnels underground...there were many questions lik..."
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the loading stations for the tunnel...wont they stack up at the surface? no bcz loading stations will be as small as a parking spot... if u got money like that ..u can have one in your driveway...he spoke as though they would be all over the place...the loading station drops you into the tunnel system..

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41. "I take the occasional tunnel every know and then but long trips? "
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nah bruh

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43. "you wont actually "drive" in the tunnel..it drives you"
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he spoke as though below the surface is the greatest untapped resource.. and all the construction is hidden and quiet...thats their biggest thing..is the construction will not cause any traffic problems on the surface...its all below and silent ..dude has even invested in making the bore machine faster..and having a whole lot of em working at the same time..

https://www.boringcompany.com/

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46. "i read "cars" wrong... I get his plan "
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not sure how I feel about it.

it sounds awesome but like something I will never use in my lifetime

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52. "He is going to do an interview with real journalist Joe Rogan"
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53. "Dude like fuck being a public company I'm rolling with Saudi princes"
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59. "Saudis like... Oh really (link) "
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54. "LMAO, Grimes went from tweeting random emojis to defenses"
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of why unions are fine just NOT for Tesla's employees after like a week of dating.

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56. "Azealia Banks waiting at Elon Musk's house for Grimes for Days. wtf?"
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ummm...yeah...from the loco chronicles

https://www.complex.com/music/2018/08/azealia-banks-alone-elon-musk-house-waiting-for-grimes

Azealia Banks Says She's Been Alone in Elon Musk's House Waiting for Grimes for Days

BY SARAH JASMINE MONTGOMERY

he lives of the rich and famous often escape our understanding, but you could be forgiven for assuming when celebrities hang out they, like the rest of us, made plans via text or call. Instead Azealia Banks apparently decided to post up alone at Elon Musk’s house for days waiting for her future collaborator and Musk’s girlfriend Grimes to show up.

News surrounding Grimes and Musk’s unlikely pairing continues to kind of annoy/creep people out, especially when presented with photos like these, but imagining Azealia Banks waiting around the hallowed halls of the Tesla founder’s mansion is nothing short of hilarious. How did she even get in there?

Banks is meeting up with Grimes, or trying to, so she can finish up her new album Fantasea II: The Second Wave. “Omg I’m listening to f2!!! All the songs are finished except lorelei and grimes song,” she tweeted in July. “I have a session next week with Alex Carapetis to lock lorelei down. Then I go to LA to finish grimes and oh yes!! Finish Paradiso two! But daaaaaaaamn there’s some heat!”

But she also shelved her project at the end of July, after feuding with Nick Cannon and the crew of Wild ‘N Out, announcing on Instagram, “I need some time to relax and bounce on dick. I’ll release new music when I feel like it."

We know Banks is at Musk’s thanks to a tweet published on Sunday capturing her Instagram story. “Literally been sitting at Elon Musk’s house alone for days waiting for Grimes to show up and start these sessions,” she wrote. “I have no idea when she is coming back. I’m going to wait one more day then I’m going to go home.”

In another post to her story she wrote, "staying at musks house is like a real like episode of 'Get Out.'" Hopefully she expands on that soon.

What makes this whole thing even more wild is that Grimes liked that tweet (!!!), but still hasn’t shown up for the recording session. Unfortunately this story poses more questions than it answers. Did Elon build Grimes a state-of-the-art studio in his house? Do we think he sits in on her studio sessions? Also where are they and why aren’t they worried people can just come by and chill for days? Who is feeding Azealia Banks while she's there? Stay tuned...?

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57. "LMAO, just walking around his futuristic compound"
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laughing at all of his shit.

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58. "https://twitter.com/fuckrashida/status/1030958564519555073"
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https://twitter.com/fuckrashida/status/1030958564519555073

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61. "im thinking elon saw her crazy vs his crazy..said fk it..and bounced"
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55. "Trust no millionaire, trust no politician"
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thems the rules.

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60. "adding the azalia banks housesitting / kidnapping story arc"
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is breaking bad, GoT levels of curveball genius storytelling

is she really there for a threesome? abducted and being sold to the russians? can flamethrowers be used in chicken sacrifices?

https://twitter.com/fuckrashida/status/1031775445925019648



musk or banks- who will be crying on twitter next?



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62. "This place stay on Weirdo Mode. Now Musk is a Problem.. SMH"
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64. "Why wasn't he before?"
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67. "oh SNAP! "
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If you can read this post and not start to question his integrity, ionno what to tell you. HODL!

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63. "Your guy's hitting the blunt with Joe Rogan now"
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Right after daring that British diver to sue him for the pedophile stuff (which it now looks like he's going to do.)

Outside of Kanye, has anyone this rich had this shitty of a 2018?

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65. "dude is so weird"
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saw his tour of the tesla plant with MKBHD and musk doesnt seem right

im happy for tesla car and other tech but musk himself is an odd person.

  

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68. "outside of tech...he seems like an awkward naive child."
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through the years ive always been kinda amazed at what he *doesnt* know and *hasnt* experienced.

  

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69. "Yeah, his feud with the British diver is some middle school shit"
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Not to be all poor little rich kid, but it's got to do SOMETHING to you mentally when you grow up with that level of wealth. Of course, he can afford a whole team of therapists to help him with that, though.

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66. "Post #52"
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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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70. "He makes it look so lame, too"
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71. "SEC charges Tesla CEO Elon Musk with fraud"
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/27/tesla-falls-4percent-on-report-elon-musk-sued-by-sec.html

  

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72. "Tesla’s Elon Musk settles with SEC, paying $20 million fine and resign..."
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Tesla’s Elon Musk settles with SEC, paying $20 million fine and resigning as board chairman

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/09/29/teslas-elon-musk-settles-with-sec-paying-million-fine-resigning-board-chairman/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.720e0714f6d8

  

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74. "This dude's dedication to posting online cost him so much"
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I can relate tbh

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73. "as a cowboys fan im still mad about his fake spike"
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75. "This cat Twitter beefing with the SEC"
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/04/elon-musk-mocks-sec-as-shortseller-enrichment-commission-days-after-settlement.html

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