http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/385965-giuliani-trump-reimbursed-cohen-for-payment-to-stormy-daniels?__twitter_impression=true

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) said Wednesday that President Trump reimbursed his personal attorney Michael Cohen the $130,000 paid to adult-film star Stormy Daniels to stay quiet about their alleged affair.

Giuliani, who recently joined Trump’s legal team, told Fox News’s Sean Hannity that the payment was “perfectly legal” and was “not campaign money,” meaning the arrangement didn’t violate campaign finance law.

“It's not campaign money. No campaign finance violation. They funneled through a law firm and the president repaid it,” Giuliani said.

"He didn’t know about the specifics of it as far as I know, but he did know about the general arrangement, that Michael would take care of things like this," he said.

Hannity returned to the payment later in the interview, giving Giuliani an opportunity to clarify.

“That was money that was paid by his lawyer, the way I would do, out of his law firm funds or whatever funds, it doesn’t matter. The president reimbursed that over a period of several months,” Giuliani said.

Hannity then pressed Giuliani, saying he “distinctly” remembered that Cohen had made the payment on his own without discussing it with Trump.

“I don’t know, I haven’t investigated that. No reason to dispute that, no reason to dispute his recollection,” Giuliani replied.

“The fact is, just trust me, they’re going to come up with no violation there,” he said. “The payment was perfectly legal, all documented."

Cohen has said that he made the payment, but that it was made with money out of his own pocket.

Trump admitted that Cohen had represented him in the arrangement with Daniels during an interview with "Fox & Friends," but that he didn't know about the payment.

Trump told reporters earlier this year that he didn't know about the payment made to Daniels.

Daniels, whose legal name is Stephanie Clifford, is suing Trump over the nondisclosure agreement she signed in exchange for the $130,000 payment, claiming the deal is void because Trump never signed the document.

She is also suing Cohen for defamation for suggesting that she lied about her alleged affair with Trump. Cohen is asserting his Fifth Amendment rights in the case.

FBI agents raided Cohen's office last month, reportedly searching for records related to the payment to Daniels, among other things.

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https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/992014615574994949

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

Here's a fun fact: campaign finance law violations over $25k are felonies. The in kind contribution of $130k to Stormy Daniels was over that line. The reimbursement constitutes a separate crime of covering up the true source of a contribution. Also likely banking law violations.

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/991898421656109056


4 possible felonies from Rudy Giuliani admission:
1. $130k payment to Stormy was in-kind coordinated contribution above limits
2. Cohen was a straw donor used to cover up true source of contribution
3. False statements on financial disclosures
4. False statements on banking forms

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/991904575425658881

But can Giuliani really make an "admission" of something he didn't do?

I'm not a lawyer, but if Giuliani clarifies that he simply misspoke/speculated incorrectly about motivations he wasn't privy to, and no paper trail or other contemporaneous evidence comes out confirming that campaign considerations guided the payment, I'm not sure Trump won't get away with claiming the payment was unrelated to the campaign, especially if Trump had made similar payments in the past, as seems likely he has.

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maybe you dont wanna say it publicly right now. but its only a revelation to the public. rudy/trump know what the feds already know.

i dont think he will backtrack either (even tho he could).

i think he was stating what he already knows the feds have evidence of.

its interesting that the case is taking place in sdny (where rudy was a us attorney) and the fbi ny field office (who presumably leaked info to rudy about the clinton investigation).

i wonder if rudy is getting a tipped hand.

These mf's live forever

cause this shit sounds wild as hell.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

What I'm trying to say is he can't be a total jackass idiot as these reports and punditry make him sound

I get the mob ain't exactly rocket scientists
but some level of intelligence and smarts are required to be a prosecutor in high profile cases against organized crime bosses

Something doesn't add up

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>What I'm trying to say is he can't be a total jackass idiot
>as these reports and punditry make him sound

Oh, but HE IS a total and complete jackass now.

Dude is 73 - there can be a cognitive decline entering "old age." For example: Ever know someone who was reasonable and smart when they were 40, or 50 that became addicted to gambling at a certain point? My dad did, and he was smart and when he was younger he had very little interest in gambling. Something changed in his brain.


But things happen to the brain in some cases.

And lets not forget 911 happened - that is a VERY traumatic and stressful event. Imagine the pressure he was under - that could end up contributing to a delving in thinking. Plus he was probably hiding what an asshole he was better in the 1990s when it was bad taste to be openly insane.

Since 911 he's definitely been unhinged. And frankly if I was on the island that day there's a good chance I would have become unhinged too.



>I get the mob ain't exactly rocket scientists
>but some level of intelligence and smarts are required to be a
>prosecutor in high profile cases against organized crime
>bosses
>
>Something doesn't add up

The old grey mayor just ain't what he used to be.

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check the stats for all major cities in the 90’s. Crime went down across the country.

I have no idea if he did the heavy lifting in NYC but since he was in charge he gets the credit.

and 9/11 was horrible but those first responders were going in regardless of who the mayor was at the time. I feel like he has taken a lot of credit and I’m not sure he deserves all of it or most of it.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

He did the heavy lifting converting it into the theater district it is today
Battling the mob
Handgun ban
Etc...

He had an impeccable rep as NYC Mayor

Let's not forget he was geared for POTUS campaigns on the strength of his mayorship...how ever many cycles ago...

Then 911 happened
His marital affairs became public

...and dude was never the same...

Some of it does feel like a natural decline in cognition

But it feels more to me like get back for those that opposed him in the above examples

Ever since then he's seemed to go as far right as possible...in some twisted effort to get even with the 'left'

IMO

But yes, as Mayor he did the heavy lifting

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sharp minds. ivy league grads. brilliant in prior professions.

now old dim-witted conspiracy theorists that say/do the stupidest shit.

i have no idea how you go from one end to the other like that.

>sharp minds. ivy league grads. brilliant in prior
>professions.
>
>now old dim-witted conspiracy theorists that say/do the
>stupidest shit.
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>i have no idea how you go from one end to the other like
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focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/992019328492032001

I'm sure it's actually pretty tough to do well. But if you picked better people to trust and were, like, two degrees less brazen about your obvious graft then you'd be better than the president at being a criminal.

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It's like what Avon told Dee
"you only got to fuck up once, be a little slow, a little late, just once"
45 has gotten away with so much shit throughout his life it's catching up to him

at least one convo with white house intercepted.

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/992087320089251841

trump was told by his lawyer not to call cohen because he could be wiretapped. he called anyway lol.

This era is going to have a nickname, like the Gilded Age but for being dumb. And everybody is going to laugh at us for being alive now because this period will be known in perpetuity as the one where everybody important was just shamelessly stupid.

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the ship is going down.

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even use phones...now he got a whole crew who use phones, emails...and go on fucking tv talking...

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There are so many news revelations, I am not sure what is actually going to create an outcome.

Setup your ideal party environment and find a way to celebrate.

Plan your schemes early to capitalize off the public shame people feel when THEIR president goes down.

Freamon and Mueller know what they are doing. Trump is in more trouble than people think.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

the only things that will get Trump and Co. in any trouble is concrete irrefutable evidence and lies told under oath, correct? Trump lying to the press won't mean anything in terms of getting charges pressed on him, right?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

he would have over 3,000 charges if he could get charged for lying to the American people. they'll get him though, he's dumb and crazy.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

I did not have sexual relations with that woman

Etc...?

Lying feels like part of the job.

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>the only things that will get Trump and Co. in any trouble is
>concrete irrefutable evidence and lies told under oath,
>correct? Trump lying to the press won't mean anything in terms
>of getting charges pressed on him, right?

No, if they can prove intent to obstruct by lying then it's a crime.

There's a bunch of government ethics rules and campaign laws and obstruction statues that I'm not super familiar with.

But you can't try to obstruct an investigation - and lying to the press, or to witnesses , or asking others to lie can fall into the illegal realm.

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https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/992150735361015808

more trump 'fake news' ammo. i have no idea how you fuck something this important up.

https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/993983493033086977?s=21

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-cohen-took-cash-from-russian-oligarch-after-election

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He is good at this PR stuff

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>He is good at this PR stuff


Daniels’s lawyer seems to be drawing from Trump’s P.T. Barnum-like playbook in his attempts to stoke media attention and provoke the White House. Avenatti, like Trump, has a bombastic style and reality-television instincts. He’s spent the past several days egging on high-profile figures with ties to Trump—including challenging Rudy Giuliani to a live-TV debate. Avenatti has also used the president’s preferred medium, Twitter, to whip up suspicions about a possible connection between the Russian probe and the Daniels scandal. And, in a tweet over the weekend, Avenatti seemed to acknowledge his behavior is part of a strategy to get to Trump.

“The constant media/PR pressure has forced Trump, Cohen, et al. to make a series of huge errors and to make damaging admissions helpful to our case,” Avenatti said. “This was not by accident. And we’re not changing.” Avenatti’s strategy is, of course, its own kind of PR effort.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/stormy-daniels-russian-oligarch/559991/

hes hell bent on exposing it... plus hes seeing a lot of evidence we are not privy to yet...

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Probably for consulting services. Oh....Trump met with the CEO for dinner later.

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https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/993975367605063681?s=21

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

at one of those same Russian dinners as the rest of this lot of traitors.

to the senate intel committee too. definitely something you do when you are innocent and have nothing to hide lol.

all of this makes me question her motives in pushing for a recount in those 3 rust belt states. i still havent come across a good (alternate) theory on what she could have been trying to accomplish tho.

^^^^

I can see folks saying this when it’s brought up.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

I doubt she was trying to help Hillary, she seems to talk bad about her more than she does Trump.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

I can’t stand her. I don’t think Russia or Trump ever thought he would actually win. (Way to go on that one, America) They just wanted to sow division and cause chaos, and it certainly looks like she may have been a part of that.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

I see this narrative a lot and it sounds wishful. that they didn't think they'd wi. Russia has been grooming and working with Trump since the 80s

And they pulled out ALL the stops
Hacking
Propaganda
Blackmail
Astroturfing
Helping smaller campaigns
Suppressing the vote via propaganda
Suppressing the votr via deregistering people
Buying influence via the NRA
Buying influence via smaller races

If there was a point of entry they prodded it, measured it for strength, and attacked accordingly.
They targeted minorities, media, the left, nativism .... everything
They exposed America for all of its flaws and created more.
They did everything to ensure victory. So it doesn't make sense that they didn't expect to win because it doesn't reflect their level of effort and commitment to this still ongoing fight.

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They did pull out all of the stops but I still think it was more about damaging Hillary’s presidency and sowing division. IMO they wanted Trump to win but I don’t think they actually believed it would happen. My guess is that becoming president is the biggest regret in Trump’s life.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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and yeah, I also think Trump winning was a long shot but they damn sure played that shit perfectly. It also didn't help that Hilldawg went missing in the final few months AND fainted on 9/11. I wouldn't be surprised if she was drugged by some Russian barista at Starbucks. The timing was way too convenient.

Trump kept implying she was weak and then she faints on 9/11 of all days?

Man.. sometimes I think all this shit is planned in advance. Even the Obama win. Hilldawg thought she had that in the bag and didn't even know the rules about primary delegates being split. How the fuck you wanna be president all your life, spend all those years watching your husband run and win but you don't know how the shit works?

but yeah.. Russians damn sure pulled out all the stops to get Trump close enough to win and he brought it home.

Plus its America and after 8 years of a Black man ruining race relations by winning... white folks were ready to take their country back.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

I doubt they spiked her coffee.

Meat is right. They didn't do all that just to hurt Hillary.

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> My guess is that
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https://twitter.com/RonanFarrow/status/996877897100128256

it seems someone pulled records of additional suspicious transactions off a government database...something the whistleblower said *never* happened before.

sometimes its the crime. sometimes its the coverup. sometimes its the crime *and* the coverup.

and iont even feel like posting all of it.

just basically everything he is being suspected of is gradually being confirmed by people directly involved lol.

i said it before and ima say it again. trump himself might skate (at least in terms of criminal legal consequences). but him becoming president is gonna be the worst thing to happen to a lot of people involved with him.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44215656

The United States is now a pay to play government so that's cool I guess.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

between cohen and another lawyer who 'coincidentally' represented multiple women that settled with trump and signed nda's?
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13251810&mesg_id=13251810&listing_type=search#13251832

stormy daniels lawyer just filed a lawsuit alleging cohen and that lawyer (keith davidson) colluded on several occasions with trumps knowledge, including davidson sharing client-attorney privileged information. the allegations stem from evidence obtained in the cohen sdny case.

https://twitter.com/S_Fitzpatrick/status/1004427372379045888

by the time any of this touches him legally

seriously...move on

Trump is fucking us on policy decisions daily

...and folks are still falling for the distractions...

Seriously...do you care that much about Stormy Daniels...or are there actual policies that we can discuss

I mean, it's the day after the mid-term primaries

and you're talking about Stormy Fucking Daniels...again

Do you see it?

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Not sure why the "distractions" have to be ignored. All of it can and should be covered to get the totality of how terrible this administration is for the country and the world. Leave no stone unturned.

Think this board covers any and all 45* news pretty well.

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I can multitask.

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>I can multitask.

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Did you not live through the 16' election cycle?

Trump being a charlatan is not news

today

or 10 years ago

...and yet, he is the POTUS...

attacking him personally...how'd that work out for everybody else?

Didn't exactly keep him out of the white house

and I expect none of this well remove him

seriously, what's the point?

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this stormy/avenatti shit has already been responsible for exposing a possibly illegal campaign expenditure (which trump initially denied) and also millions of dollars of payments to a cohen shell company (novartis, at&t, an investment firm tied to a russian oligarch etc) to gain access to the president. payments that were apparently shady enough to result in frantic pr statements and some firings.

it has also played a major part in a public corruption case in sdny (which is why avenatti/stormy was involved in that).

prior to that...even i was questioning the relevance of the story. since the media was mostly focusing on the sexual scandal.

but now we have a presidents lawyer potentially pedaling illegal influence to corporations and foreign governments...and also possibly in an illegal scheme colluding with another attorney to coerce women into silence before an election (not to mention the various financial/election law violations that involves)...and we should just ignore that and focus on other things? lol.

this is all about forcing as much information out into the public as possible. even the press wasnt on this. if it wasnt for the stormy shit we might not even know about *any* of it. who knows what other information will be exposed?

He had affairs with. Even if it "won't remove him" from the WH it's worthy to be covered and worthy to pursue.

Again, we can all multitask.


>Did you not live through the 16' election cycle?
>
>Trump being a charlatan is not news
>
>today
>
>or 10 years ago
>
>...and yet, he is the POTUS...
>
>attacking him personally...how'd that work out for everybody
>else?
>
>Didn't exactly keep him out of the white house
>
>and I expect none of this well remove him
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>seriously, what's the point?

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and the investigation is so vast, you never know what could be the thing to bring him down. something that doesn't look like much in the beginning could turn out to be the thing that could do it.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

you have a president with a strong economy, no new wars, and no major domestic or international policy crisis. and he is still only hovering around 40% approval with republicans hemorrhaging parts of their core constituency like women, college educated, and suburban voters while getting beat up in special elections (last night dems just flipped their 40+ seat since the prez election by 20 points in a missouri district trump won by 5).

*all* of this information coming out is responsible for that in some way. and it will only get worse as time goes on.

plus wait until the effects of the tariffs and the staggered rollout of the tax cuts kick in.

people are acting like impeachment is the only acceptable end goal. but if things lead to a dem house/senate and a severely tarnished president getting voted out in 2020 the old fashioned way...thats even better.

>you have a president with a strong economy, no new wars, and
>no major domestic or international policy crisis. and he is
>still only hovering around 40% approval with republicans
>hemorrhaging parts of their core constituency like women,
>college educated, and suburban voters while getting beat up in
>special elections (last night dems just flipped their 40+ seat
>since the prez election by 20 points in a missouri district
>trump won by 5).
>
>*all* of this information coming out is responsible for that
>in some way. and it will only get worse as time goes on.
>
>plus wait until the effects of the tariffs and the staggered
>rollout of the tax cuts kick in.
>
>people are acting like impeachment is the only acceptable end
>goal. but if things lead to a dem house/senate and a severely
>tarnished president getting voted out in 2020 the old
>fashioned way...thats even better.

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coming from all angles. massive ongoing corruption and illegality on a scale we havent really seen before. and thats just from what we know publicly. but none of it matters because people knew trump was a dirtbag and voted for him lol.

nyt, wsj, tmz, and the enquirer all killed various stories about trump or his campaign prior to the election. even steve bannon had his own dossier on trumps mob ties that got buried.

so apparently shit like this does matter.

there was plenty of other stuff about Trump that was out there that didn't get talked about.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

like 2 decades worth of resentment.

even tho a lot of folks didnt necessarily want trump to win...they definitely didnt want clinton to win.

i mean...aside from even the emails...she got slammed in the press for shit like being too smart/prepared and talking loudly at her rallies lol. her husband cheated on her multiple times and somehow she got treated worse for it than he did lol.

this big comey/doj/ig report thats about to come out? its pretty much gonna blast comey for defying doj precedence and outright directives in his handling of the clinton investigation(s). dude has hated her since whitewater. and there are a lot of people in the govt and press who felt the same way and would do anything they could to keep her out of office.

They're like: https://i.imgur.com/UfdFPIq.gif

Naturally, they are just giving the people what they want. And the people love scandal.
But the expense of that is other stuff gets pushed aside.

If we're talking about electoral politics, I don't think all of this stuff matters one bit as long as the economy is good. Folks will tolerate some corruption when their pockets are fat.

If your desire is Democrat legislative victories, keep in mind that the polls were strongest in Dems favor when there were real policy fights (ACA repeal, tax cuts).
I don't think Trump is bad generates enthusiasm. But good policy initiatives do.

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Folks get defensive real quick

I'm saying, I voted yesterday in a primary

and today I'm suppose to care about Stormy Daniels...?

FOH

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>Folks get defensive real quick
>
>I'm saying, I voted yesterday in a primary
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>and today I'm suppose to care about Stormy Daniels...?

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is some easy A&E 48 Hours shit or a game of fucking Clue. smh

No patience. You move on and pay attention to other shit if you can only do one at a time....


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because it doesnt immediately lead to trump being led out of the white house chest naked in cuffs and sweatpants with a sweaty ass crack.

instead we should only focus on more important issues like medicare for all and getting joy ann reid fired lol.

Trump and the 'campaign' have been under investigation since 2015

yes, there are more important issues to cover daily over an almost 3 year span...absolutely

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and you know what? it is exhausting, I get it. this president is so corrupt and crazy that you get tired of hearing about it, but the truth needs to be known. he needs to be exposed for the piece of trash that he is.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

but that 'none of this shit matters' attitude while overlooking *blatant* corruption is exactly how autocrats rise to power and stay there (not to sound too alarmist).

once people believe there is no consequence for those actions...or that everyone else is doing it as well so theres no point in caring...its a wrap.

never said it doesn't matter

nope, didn't say it

what I said was...there are more important stories that get absolutely no coverage...at all

For example; Roseann Barr is a racist, surprise surprise (c)

That story got 10hrs of coverage
5000 death toll in PR, got 30 minutes

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/05/30/study-finds-5000-people-may-have-died-hurricane-maria-puerto-rico-cable-news-focused-roseanne/220335

and folks, like yourself, who want us to believe they are evolved intelligent creatures...take the bait and fall for the distraction everytime

the corruption is evident...I could dig in on the 'unprecedented' description...but I won't because it is my personal belief that Trump is no more corrupt than any number of presidents

Crack and Aids = Ronald Reagan
Etc...

For everyday citizens to be this interested in a corruption scandal instead of policies and debates that will impact their lives for years to come...is my point

whatever this is...will play out to a finality...somewhere in the future

there are things going on right now today, that we as normal citizens can have an impact on

FBI collusion investigations, etc...are not one of them.

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which i would side with you on.

i wish the media would spend more time on things like puerto rico, judicial appointments, the wealth gap, the rollback of civil/workers/voting rights in repub state legislatures and courts (including the supreme). i wish they spent more time on the rampant corruption in this administration (pruitt, zinke, etc). i wish they spent more time on mitch mcconnell and paul ryan destroying democratic norms with no media accountability. i wish they would stop buying into the narrative that trump has the economy humming when its essentially the obama economy and actually slowing under trump (job growth, consumer spending, etc).

that doesnt necessarily mean that i/we are 'falling for distractions' because we discuss any one story as it breaks. some of us are capable of paying attention to multiple issues. we dont have one track minds like sally.