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All its going to do is drive everything more underground; legit sex workers are gonna be forced into more dangerous situations and people sex trafficking will be harder to catch.
"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African" Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!
Backpage didn’t provide bodyguards for those women
Was it even popping like that? I thought it was considered outdated.
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13. "Getting beat up/robbed/raped/killed/abducted " In response to Reply # 11
Bout two weeks ago some black sex worker got killed in Orange County. It wasn't even off BP, it was one of the more low key joints where you gotta make a profile and send private messages and such. That site is still up as of now.
This limits sex workers ability to "screen" clients (which is usually making sure said client isn't a black man lol)
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79560 posts
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14. "I didn’t know Backpage had a screening process" In response to Reply # 13
I always assumed every hookup could go sideways
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79560 posts
Mon Apr-09-18 02:09 PM
20. "never been on those sites" In response to Reply # 16
always thought it was basically a craigslist type site where you still have to show up at a strangers house/hotel/your place
which seemed kinda sketchy.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79560 posts
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25. "Haha.. nah, as you can see folks are correcting me " In response to Reply # 23
because I really don’t know how these sites work.
I’ve never been the pay for it type of dude even when single.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79560 posts
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21. "pretty sure folks are still using the Gram, Snap, etc" In response to Reply # 19 Mon Apr-09-18 02:12 PM by legsdiamond
to sell booty.
I'm not a professional tho, never even been on those sites to know how they work.
unless Backpage was offering bodyguards I don't see how its any safer than the next website/social media DM/etc
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24. "Ig and snap ain't the same " In response to Reply # 21 Mon Apr-09-18 06:15 PM by Madvillain 626
Takes longer to build a following, it's not a wide open marketplace like BP, no anonymity, and Ig already shuts down profiles that are blantantly promoting prostitution.
You could be some single mother hard up on rent, post up on BP, cash out and never post again. Can't do that on IG without exposing yourself
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26. "RE: pretty sure folks are still using the Gram, Snap, etc" In response to Reply # 21
>to sell booty. > >I'm not a professional tho, never even been on those sites to >know how they work. > >unless Backpage was offering bodyguards I don't see how its >any safer than the next website/social media DM/etc
it was probably better than posting up on the corner lol
one on hand Backpage removed one element of danger by having sex workers advertise online instead of being out on the strip.
However....whether people like it or not......prositution is illegal (Vegas has that gray area but still). Prostitution does go hand in hand with sex trafficking (not all of those women on Backpage are from here). Backpage was also a part of the problem.
Like someone else said, sex work can and should be legalized. But in order to do that, the elephant in the room has to be fully addressed--sex trafficking. Measures have to be taken to ensure that these women are in safe environments engaging in their activities safely. Backpage would never have vetted those ads to make sure they weren't aiding in the exploitation of sex trafficking victims because their policy was basically to turn a blind eye.
28. "If you legalized prostitution it would help stop sex trafficking" In response to Reply # 27 Mon Apr-09-18 10:06 PM by BigReg
the problem is thst since its underground and illegal you invite black market elements to fill in the vacuum, a la the drug game, anything goes including forcing people into it.
Make it legal and most importantly regulate it, much of that goes away. Not going to be like it would make it non-existent but getting women off street corners and shithole hotels would go a long way. And I figure as a john when your choices are basically a decent legal set up a la a ranch where its in their best interest to make sure its all legit and safe for all parties vs Gunplay pimping out of a 29 dollar a night motel...
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79560 posts
Tue Apr-10-18 07:39 AM
29. "You sure about that? " In response to Reply # 28
I can’t see people who exploit sex workers just walking away once it’s legal.
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30. "Its not gonna disappear totally cause men suck" In response to Reply # 29
but it will ultimately make it harder + easier to catch.
Why as a pussy purchaser (lol) would you risk going through X amount of hoops when you can just simply have a risk free transaction. Can’t legislate morality but you can rely on laziness and self-preservation. As a sex worker protection from the state vs going it on ya own underground is a no brainer.
Right now everyone is forced to effectively go through the same system: frat bros who want a really crazy bachelor party vs pedophiles. You give the legit sex work a safe space to be, you can focus on all under the grid stuff .
there are plenty of women manipulating other women in this industry.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79560 posts
Tue Apr-10-18 11:00 AM
33. "Because folks are grimey" In response to Reply # 32
and I believe a lot of sex workers are underage, runaways or foreigners who are shipped into the country.
I don’t see that stopping.
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40. "This is the part im talking about" In response to Reply # 33
>and I believe a lot of sex workers are underage, runaways or >foreigners who are shipped into the country. > >I don’t see that stopping. > >
A lot of barriers would have to be put in place to box out traffickers. I don't think anyone would step up to help the victims because they don't matter enough to the people in power. ---------------------------------------
34. "based on our non-legal climate, " In response to Reply # 27
I would think backpage was a small (I don't know its reach) representation of what was happening already. just another way to advertise, but not a place that was actually helping sex workers.
maybe it was helpful for the cops to help find people, but who knows.
36. "What % of US sex work involves trafficking or underage children?" In response to Reply # 0
Seems like it's a small portion of a huge black market industry, and I doubt folks were advertising children or hostages on backpage. Same with craigslist.
I agree with kayru99, and think this is more about grabbing low-hanging, ugly-looking fruit that not too many will complain about publicly as part of a broader plan to further regulate the Internet.
37. "did you read the article?" In response to Reply # 36
>Seems like it's a small portion of a huge black market >industry, and I doubt folks were advertising children or >hostages on backpage. Same with craigslist.
A report released by a U.S. Senate subcommittee in early 2017 stated that the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children's data indicates that 73 percent of the child-trafficking reports it receives were related to Backpage.com.
Site executives say they are protected by the Communications Decency Act which regulates pornographic material on the internet. Executives argue that the law states internet publishers cannot be held liable for content created by third parties.
But investigators say the site lost that protection when they alerted posters to key terms related to child sex trafficking. Investigators found proof of these alerts in internal Backpage.com documents.
The site even gave the third party posters a chance to rephrase their ads so they wouldn't be flagged for child sex trafficking. Some of the terms Backpage.com admins told posters not to use include "Lolita," young, teenager and even "Amber Alert."
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79560 posts
Tue Apr-10-18 12:42 PM
38. "this is what I'm talking about" In response to Reply # 37 Tue Apr-10-18 01:05 PM by legsdiamond
folks acting like legalizing it would have sex workers at the mall in kiosk and shit...
nah, it's still going to be sex trafficking regardless if it's legal or not because some folks ain't shit
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41. "legalizing isn't going to stop sex trafficing" In response to Reply # 0
at best it might cut single digit % of it
legal weed is getting taxed out the ass and the people that are propping up the underage or the exploited aren't looking for legal sex...the people propping up that dark part of the market typically do so bc that's the market they want
they aren't hitting up the chick at the best western...they are typically specifically looking for the underaged, the exploit fetish, and so on
Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble
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49. "**LEGALIZATION VS DECRIMINALIZATION***" In response to Reply # 0
everyone please check out this graphic because i feel like alot of you don't understand how/why legalization might NOT be the best option for sex workers
I can see how legalizing it would make it safer for women who would be in the system or registered.
However, I don't think it would curb human trafficking nor do I see how closing Backpage makes it less safe. From the sound of it BP wasn't all that safe to begin with.
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