interesting how Maxwell who i also dug big time 20 years ago was never called a culture vulture.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

And he grew up in Brooklyn.

--
Sometimes you have to look reality in the face and say 'No!'
-Ben (Reaper)

If you need any help, don't. Hesitate to ask.

however Maxwell was still called more Puerto Rican and it was promoted to marketing him. believe that

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

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You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

live with it

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

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You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

People actin like PuertoRican DOESN'T mean Black.

I've BEEN tryna school GD on this shit.

North America ain't the only place that has Black people.

PuertoRico's national music is Bomba & Plena, which is Black PuertoRican music(Afro-PuertoRican/Afro-Rican/Afro-Boriquen for those unfamiliar with Afro-Latin cultures/nomenclature).

Shit like this is exactly why when people say HipHop is Black & Latino, its like saying HipHop is Black & Black.

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

they will cede to their African roots when pressed....but generally they shy away from that.

http://www.blinblineo.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Tego-Calderon-Sabados-Verano1.jpg

^^^
TFW "Puerto Ricans don't claim blackness"

And no, i've never HEARD of that guy either....


"Get ready....for your blessing....."

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And he repped Afro-PR HOOARRD!

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

gonmna eat you up insides.."

yeah thass him

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"...Whateva, man..." (c) Redman

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..as a primer for those oblivious to the indelible Africanity
of PuertoRico, an Africanity that exceeds our own here in the states:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYuI7ZaO4sA&t=2091s

note: The artist in album/video is William Cepeda's group called Afro-Boricua, but Cepeda heads another group called William Cepeda's Afro-Rican Jazz Ensemble which includes member's from the 1st group. Whats important here is that the Cepeda family is HIGHLY-RESPECTED in PR for resiliently retaining their Yoruba-African cultural traditions all the way down to language(similar to Cuba's Yoruba population, PR's Yoruba population still spreaks their indigenous Yoruba language) GD ninjaz need ta KNOW this by now.


>they will cede to their African roots when pressed....but
>generally they shy away from that.

^Those individuals you speak of our the self-hating exception, not the rule. I'll never forget when my band traveled to PR and were surrounded by nothing but beautiful Africana who were making African drums right there on the spot on some, "Excuse me Brodda, I make you a drum, see?..*grabs tools and carves tree trunk*

It was one Afro-Rican OG with his daughter, she might of been about 4 or 5, and Sun pulled my bandmate to the side and said this verbatim:

"Look Brodda, you see her? *points to daugher*...she's AFRICAN! All of us here are AFRICAN and we've maintained our culture here. Everyone on the island knows this and respects it. When you get back to the states you make sure to tell your people that!"

And now its been told to you so the mission is complete.

I can jewel this post up but it will take a whole lotta time
that I don't feel like wasting so I'll just letchall ninjaz
marinate on the info above for a minute.

Its inevitable that I'll simply have to make an entirely seperate
Afro-Latino Cultural thread to break dis shit down so dat it don't neva need ta be broke no mo'!

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

really rep that too tough.....
Some of the younger generation now maybe....but as recent as my generation? ..nah.
It's cool that the younger gen is finally embracing and repping it if that's the case...

Dig dis, all the Afro-Boriquas that I've met were proud of their respective Africanity. Also, they were well-aware of the self-hating demographic that existed as well and would put ME on game.

Crab ninjaz don't just exist on Nas records, dem ninjaz ERRYWHERE.

FluidJ, from the data that you yield me, your primary interactions have been with either: self-hating Afro-Boriquas, or non-African Indio-genic Boriquas that had issues with Africana as a whole.




index: Indio-genic specifically refers to the indigenous Taino Indians whom were colonized by the Spanish-Europeans in PuertoRico. Once colonized, the Spanish-Europeans applied socio-economic pressure on the indigenous inhabitants to assimilate the Blanco culture and *deny the Afro culture.





Believe me Blak, I can go as deep as you want to......









....IF you want to.







Its all love either way, Blak but per my African blood, I'll be damned if I watch GD blindly ignore a very vital part of their Africanic heritage merely off of euro-engineered ignorance.

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

then.
Not surprising I guess...because majority of my exposure has been in the professional corporate setting. Hell...even Black folk in this environment be going out of their way to downplay their obvious Blackness....
Thanks for the breakdown.

>Dig dis, all the Afro-Boriquas that I've met were proud of
>their respective Africanity. Also, they were well-aware of
>the self-hating demographic that existed as well and would put
>ME on game.
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>Crab ninjaz don't just exist on Nas records, dem ninjaz
>ERRYWHERE.
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>FluidJ, from the data that you yield me, your primary
>interactions have been with either: self-hating
>Afro-Boriquas, or non-African Indio-genic Boriquas that had
>issues with Africana as a whole.
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>index: Indio-genic specifically refers to the indigenous
>Taino Indians whom were colonized by the Spanish-Europeans in
>PuertoRico. Once colonized, the Spanish-Europeans applied
>socio-economic pressure on the indigenous inhabitants to
>assimilate the Blanco culture and *deny the Afro culture.
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>Believe me Blak, I can go as deep as you want to......
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>....IF you want to.
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>Its all love either way, Blak but per my African blood, I'll
>be damned if I watch GD blindly ignore a very vital part of
>their Africanic heritage merely off of euro-engineered
>ignorance.
>
>

https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

>Its inevitable that I'll simply have to make an entirely
>seperate
>Afro-Latino Cultural thread to break dis shit down so dat it
>don't neva need ta be broke no mo'!
>

People are just really ignorant. Bruno is a brown man. I don't think black people let certain people get a black pass. Like Miguel is black but Bruno isn't right? Is it the hair, the direct African lineage? All I know is Maxwell is obviously of African descent.

Bruno we had to research and guess. I think after all that we've been through in America, we can decide who is black and who isn't.

I have no beef with Bruno. ButI do agree that Finesse sounds like Bobby Brown Kareoke and it is unoriginal.

Rise & Shine
Thrive & Grind
Heart & Mind

Do the knowledge.


#thebagofrocksthatkeepsgivin

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

It is and was its own country.

Rise & Shine
Thrive & Grind
Heart & Mind

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

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Bruno and Maxwell are one of the black puerto ricans.

Besides that, the Brun Mars is appropiating black music dumb ass argument fails to realize the role that Puerto Ricans had in birthing hip-hop,.
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I don't get what's so hard to comprehend that Latinos come in every skin shade under the sun

blond blue eyed scandinavian looking? yup
black black BLACK? yup

and everything in between

>Bruno and Maxwell are one of the black puerto ricans.
>
>Besides that, the Brun Mars is appropiating black music dumb
>ass argument fails to realize the role that Puerto Ricans had
>in birthing hip-hop,.


To be surjically-specific, HipHop is the inevitable cultural cross-pollenation of the Afro-American, Afro-Carribean, and Afro-Latino.
The African rhythm-&-dance aesthetic shared by, and retained by all 3 is what made HipHop what it is. It will always come down to the drum.

Thus, the Afro-trifecta. I broke this down in The Lesson years ago.

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

the culture vulture part comes from his lack of creativity and his racial makeup, not just the racial makeup

fixed it for you...

cause this is the real issue folks have with Bruno. He makes pop hits and 99% of pop hits aren't soulful or original. That's why it's called pop music.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

he might have avoided this whole conundrum but since he wanted to jump genres and pick easily recognizable hits to do it, the culture vulture label got attached.

Maxwell doesn't feel like he's aping everyone else's style.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

gotdamn. why cant this bruno shit just die already.

Either you listen to his music or you do not listen to his music.

Its been established where he is from and what his influences are.

People won't be happy until we're either all..

bending over backwards to kiss his latte colored ass

OR

completely banning him from ever being able to even touch or THINK about touching a musical instrument ever again.



Prince and Michael are dead, get over it.

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if he was trying to get on in 2018.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

but thats because I think the world has changed and he represents the time that he was in.

Actual music theory in popular music is a no go.
Actual strong instrumentation in pop music is a no go.
Actual hard won talent in pop music is a no go.

Were he starting out today his image and sound would be altered to fit the times which has a different value system from yesterday.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

MJ is a one of one..

why are we acting like he didnt grow up with an entire generation...

There is NO pop star that we have known since 6/7 yrs old..

He was woven into the fabric of a generation.. he woulda been good..

Double 0
DJ/Producer/Artist
Producer in Kidz In The Hall
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apparently the difference between culture/nationality/race isn't clear to some

(including me)

d

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Back again for the first time.

one that definitely gives us something to poast about on slow days

Like... what is going on in here?

Thas the only reason I ever click.

Maxxx gon' give you one, guaranteed.

One'o dem gut-wrenching laughs that cause abdominal contractions type steez. < <Thas what I click on a Maxxxx post for.


Errything else is for da birds.

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

Although, do we know for sure that Maxwell's father was an Afro-Rican? I've never seen a picture and I've never heard Maxwell say that outright.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

better troll bait would have been "D'Angelo covered Smokey Robinson's "Cruisin" and yall were okay with it", but that still would have sucked

Maxwell was 100% all the way tryna be a mix of sade and leon ware though..

his influences were also fairly obvious..

Bruno doing what he did on his 3rd album is no different than Raphael Siddiq or R Kelly doing a retro album..

Bruno's first joint was not a nostalgic throwback joint at all...

People are really just mad at Uptown Funk success and 24kt

Double 0
DJ/Producer/Artist
Producer in Kidz In The Hall
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IG: @godouble0
www.thinklikearapper.com

There are black Puerto Ricans and non-black (some identify even identify as white).

Don't worry Bruh.
Per this thread, and a myriad of others where GD has shown a white-people-esque ignorance towards culture regarding Latin America, I myself shall endure the task of shedding snake-skin light on
the undeniable ethno-cultural impact of Africana in Latin America.


I've actually been planning this as far back as my previous login-name but never got around to it. But its coming, my people NEED this.

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"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

That's why folks question his blackness.