I like Warren but the Pocahontas shit is hilarious.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american-dna-test/index.html

"Let me tell you the story of my family. ... My daddy first saw my mother when they were both teenagers. He fell in love with this tall, quiet girl who played the piano. Head over heels. But his family was bitterly opposed to their relationship because she was part Native American," Warren, D-Massachusetts, told "Meet the Press." Her parents, she said, eventually eloped.”

These days with so many people using Ancestry and places like that, it’s a little funny to hear she won’t privide scientific evidence.

Folks tell all types of stories that embellish the truth when talking about family.

I know it’s just a distraction from more important things but this is politics and this type of story always “trumps” the real issues.

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https://www.google.com/search?q=elizabeth+warren+mother&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=Jky9kDhLWSD7tM%253A%252Cq0MWi1G8QkGvNM%252C_&usg=__DTFaM8ReXUx-sC5_JqwoNiRNMI0%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_-53r_-vZAhUhwFkKHYL9BWAQ9QEIbjAO#imgrc=jqiUcBNr0zfbhM:


If that's her mom, then visually it's feasible.


Also, I wouldn't get a DNA test to prove my ancestry either. FOH. Folks act like they are some authority that must be answered to.

Damn doggie
You fell off.

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but yes, I find it funny.

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this is a bit more like him calling that dolzeal lady harriet tubman

you'd have to go with someone whose legitimacy is in question

nobody is confused about water's background

if he called waters harriet tubman it would be more of a looks/age joke to be offended about than a racial one

If Warren's big thing was trading on her native americanism and used that to her advantage, that would be one thing.

But they are doing to her what they so successfully did to HRC which is find one inconsistency and define that person by that apparent inconsistency.

Everytime Elizabeth Warren is on TV talking about her Indian Heritage, they win.




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It's outrageous. Believe her or not, whatever. Who cares. But this call for her do a DNA test is just the right's racism, and they're mocking a complex discussion of native identity and being of native descent while simultaneously trying to take her down

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but nevertheless, their calls for her to just "spit in a tube" to prove nativeness offends the complexity of that conversation regardless

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Inappropriate, sure.
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Definition of slur

1 a : an insulting or disparaging remark or innuendo : aspersion


So stop being pedantic. It is literally the definition of a slur.
You're seeming to want to conflate it with the appropriateness of a slur, i.e. Would it be bleeped by the FCC or could someone get away with it without going through HR
But you're missing the point, it's inappropriate name calling meant to disparge another person based on racism. It's a slur.

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which is any insult. I'm pretty sure that ethinc/racial slurs are by definition aimed to disparage a group. Pocahontas, Jerome, Becky, etc. are aimed at individuals.

So then if you choose to call it a slur, which is accurate, I believe you are being dishonest because slur is never used in that context. In today's vernacular, slur implies racial slur, and Pocahontas is not a racial slur. So if it's only an insult, why not call it an insult? Dishonesty is bad.

>Definition of slur
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>1 a : an insulting or disparaging remark or innuendo :
>aspersion
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>So stop being pedantic. It is literally the definition of a
>slur.
>You're seeming to want to conflate it with the appropriateness
>of a slur, i.e. Would it be bleeped by the FCC or could
>someone get away with it without going through HR
>But you're missing the point, it's inappropriate name calling
>meant to disparge another person based on racism. It's a slur.
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And just because it's not what YOU would consider offensive doesn't mean that it's not a slur.
And when talking about common use, in a professional setting (which politics is) it's a slur. It doesn't have to be overtly racial. It doesn't even have to be racial but this just happens to be.

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I'm asserting that it's not a racial slur, but I'll concede that it is a slur by the archaic definition that nobody goes by in modern language.

>And just because it's not what YOU would consider offensive
>doesn't mean that it's not a slur.
>And when talking about common use, in a professional setting
>(which politics is) it's a slur. It doesn't have to be
>overtly racial. It doesn't even have to be racial but this
>just happens to be.


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I personally never see anyone ever use "insult" and "slur" interchangeably.
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slur?!?!?

Dawg the gymnastics you doing right now.



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Is a whack statement but at least it's honest. But this shit is goofy.
It's like my best friend who tries to tell me I'm 5'10 because he's an inch taller and feels that he's 5'11. Like doggie, the tape measure shows we both average as fuck just live with it.

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Slurs"

SMH.


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>Slurs"
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then nah... I wouldn’t see it as a racial slur.

Just like I don’t think it’s a racial slur when Black folks get clowned for claiming they are Native American just cause they got “good hair”

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I thought I changed it before I posted

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can we agree that "calling someone out their name" fits?

can we agree Trump doing it is "race baiting"?

(i'm reminded of the scene in Royal Tennenbaums when hackman's character calls Danny Glovers "coltrane")

i kinda wanna see how deep this rabbit hole goes...

They're not splitting hairs, they're factually and provably incorrect

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>can we agree that "calling someone out their name" fits?
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>can we agree Trump doing it is "race baiting"?
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>(i'm reminded of the scene in Royal Tennenbaums when hackman's
>character calls Danny Glovers "coltrane")
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>i kinda wanna see how deep this rabbit hole goes...
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what does that mean

or are you poasting?

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so you DON'T see it as "race baiting" when he does that?

wow

I personally do not because it's aimed at an individual and has nothing to do with Native Americans as a group.
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does that hold in all cases?

just so I understand you seem to be saying:

if someone calls person X out of their name (using an "ethnic" name) it's OK because that is a personal attack

is someone desparages a GROUP that's not ok because.... why now?

I never said it's okay. I just said that something like Becky or Pocahontas is not a racial slur because it's aimed at an individual and not a group.

Just because I'm saying that it's dishonest to call Pocahontas a slur (implying racial slur) doesn't mean I think it's okay to use those kinds of words against people.

>does that hold in all cases?
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>just so I understand you seem to be saying:
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>if someone calls person X out of their name (using an "ethnic"
>name) it's OK because that is a personal attack
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>is someone desparages a GROUP that's not ok because.... why
>now?
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but me thinks this only goes one way for obvious reasons.

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between slur and racial slur. And admittedly I probably muddied that waters by initially saying it's not a slur because to me slur = racial slur. I literally never hear or read anyone using the word slur as a synonym for a general insult, so when I read slur, I assumed that racial slur was being implied.
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so in itself no it's not a racial slur but in that context it's being used in the fashion of a racial slur.

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its just jokes

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Maybe think this through a bit sparky

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your welfare check and watermelon yet?

That wouldn't be racist because she isn't black?


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So how isn't the stereotypical name Shenaquita not racist?


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