Printer-friendly copy Email this topic to a friend
Lobby General Discussion topic #13234514

Subject: "Trumps lawyer admits paying porn star with his own money. " Previous topic | Next topic
legsdiamond
Member since May 05th 2011
51806 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 09:47 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
"Trumps lawyer admits paying porn star with his own money. "


          

and says he will do anything to protect Trump..

but it doesn’t mean she is telling the truth.

0_O

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/02/14/longtime-trump-attorney-says-he-made-130000-payment-to-stormy-daniels-with-his-money/

shut up already, damn

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top


Topic Outline
Subject Author Message Date ID
gotta put "admits" in quotes.
Feb 14th 2018
1
It’s like working for Dark Side. Everyone gets choked out
Feb 14th 2018
3
Someone reimbursed him
Feb 14th 2018
2
what? no, of course not? I'm sure he just got a raise
Feb 14th 2018
4
I still blame the DNC for all of this
Feb 14th 2018
5
as you should
Feb 14th 2018
9
Epic.
Feb 14th 2018
6
The campaign had to have paid this.
Feb 14th 2018
7
It seems clear at least that Trump paid for it.
Feb 14th 2018
8
      I don't think he had to pay for it directly. The "game" is more
Feb 14th 2018
11
           Interesting points
Feb 14th 2018
12
           Some interesting answers (or not) in this WaPo piece:
Feb 14th 2018
14
           I forgot to ask my most pressing question
Feb 14th 2018
13
                The fact out that he made the statement means to me it is something
Feb 14th 2018
19
                     I assume you mean why can't someone...
Feb 14th 2018
21
Trump just couldn't get a lackey to drop off a shoebox with $130k in cas...
Feb 14th 2018
10
With this statement he admits to a campaign finance violation....
Feb 14th 2018
15
She thinks the lawyer violated the NDA (link)
Feb 14th 2018
16
When you said performing I was like 0_0
Feb 14th 2018
17
EPIC.
Feb 14th 2018
18
All on Valentine's Day
Feb 14th 2018
20
doubt theres anything she could say that will matter
Feb 14th 2018
22
      I agree...
Feb 14th 2018
23
           ive come to the full realization that his supporters will not turn on hi...
Feb 14th 2018
24
Check Mate?
Feb 15th 2018
25
He could just let her talk and say that she's lying. His base will
Feb 15th 2018
26
      yeah this yet another "scandal" im struggling to give a fuck about
Feb 15th 2018
27
      Even with video they will just cheer him on
Feb 15th 2018
28
           RE: Even with video they will just cheer him on
Feb 15th 2018
29
                i wouldnt be surprised if she left him while he's in office
Feb 15th 2018
30
                Right.
Feb 15th 2018
31
Trump did all his cheating and assaulting when he was a Dem
Feb 16th 2018
32
Might be Russians yo.
Feb 16th 2018
33
      its so hard to tell nowadays. these people dont sound like real people.
Feb 16th 2018
34

Reeq
Member since Mar 11th 2013
2822 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 10:04 AM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
1. "gotta put "admits" in quotes."
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

i see a lot of media outlets running with his claim like its true.
diligent journalists should be skeptical of everything these folks say...especially after blatantly lying and denying any payment even took place at all.

we should know by now...the actual truth is usually a lot worse than what these folks "admit" to. the only reason he is even "admitting" this is because a watchdog group filed an fec campaign finance complaint after noticing a $130k+ transaction on the trump campaign financials. cohen is most likely just saying it was a personal payment to cover up an fec violation (which is why he denies the campaign or trump org had anything to do with it).

so he pretty much confirmed the uncovered shell company llc he started was used for the payment. now theyre gonna dig into those financials and find that the $130K+ campaign filing was indeed that payment (which they deny). so you have a campaign law violation. and now you have prosecutors pouring through the lawyers financials (and shell company financials) and they will prolly uncover all kindsa money laundering from his dealings with trump. most or all pertaining to his practice in ny state jurisdiction...so no federal pardon.

when its all said and done...nothing might happen to trump (aside from just getting voted out). but him becoming president might be the worst thing to happen to EVERYONE ELSE around him lol.

------

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
legsdiamond
Member since May 05th 2011
51806 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 10:11 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
3. "It’s like working for Dark Side. Everyone gets choked out"
In response to Reply # 1


          

or killed off.

shut up already, damn

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

PimpTrickGangstaClik
Member since Oct 06th 2005
12974 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 10:08 AM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
2. "Someone reimbursed him"
In response to Reply # 0
Wed Feb-14-18 10:09 AM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

  

          

Lawyers are billing people for the paperclips they use. I'm supposed to believe he paid $130k without billing someone? Haha

His statement leaves it open to who repaid him. Could be Trump himself.

_______________________________________
You ain't the only one whose got problems. You ain't the only one who knows pain. Get up off your ass and just solve them. You still got a chance to try to change, try the shit again.
Devin tha Dude

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Bluebear
Member since Apr 06th 2003
3595 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 10:16 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
4. "what? no, of course not? I'm sure he just got a raise"
In response to Reply # 2


  

          

in that exact amount. Or, more likely, they had a pre-designated "pay off the prostitute" fund.

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

select_from_where
Member since Jan 03rd 2011
4195 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 10:19 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
5. "I still blame the DNC for all of this "
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
seasoned vet
Member since Jul 29th 2008
4890 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 01:44 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
9. "as you should"
In response to Reply # 5


  

          

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Stringer Bell
Member since Mar 15th 2004
2951 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 10:52 AM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
6. "Epic."
In response to Reply # 0


          

.

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

walihorse
Member since Aug 03rd 2006
15362 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 11:21 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
7. "The campaign had to have paid this. "
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

which lawyer pays for something and doesn't get reimbursed.

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Stringer Bell
Member since Mar 15th 2004
2951 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 12:13 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
8. "It seems clear at least that Trump paid for it."
In response to Reply # 7
Wed Feb-14-18 12:14 PM by Stringer Bell

          

The question is whether Trump was reimbursed by the campaign, which seems likely based on the January 2017 transaction where the campaign paid Trump Tower LLC $130,888 for "rent".

To me, Cohen's acknowledgement seems like a desperate attempt to get the Trump team on the same page/get their stories straight. In my opinion, it probably won't work and Cohen will be testifying about this at some point in the near future.

Popcorn.gif

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Buddy_Gilapagos
Charter member
41429 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 02:01 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
11. "I don't think he had to pay for it directly. The "game" is more "
In response to Reply # 8


  

          

sophisticated than that.

Firms regularly give back fees for business. I have suppliers I regularly call on behalf of the charities I am invovled with and ask them to give and they don't mind giving an amount that bears some relation to the fees I spend with them.

If I give you millions of dollars of business, you wouldn't mind eating 100ks of thousands of costs to keep that business.

The scandal though is that this runs amok of campaign finance laws because this was in essence a 100k donation to the Trump campaign.

Tax laws as well.





**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
Stringer Bell
Member since Mar 15th 2004
2951 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 02:19 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
12. "Interesting points "
In response to Reply # 11
Wed Feb-14-18 02:20 PM by Stringer Bell

          

Do you think that, if it can be established that Cohen paid the money on Trump's behalf (nevermind the campaign), it might still run afoul of campaign finance laws since Trump was a candidate at the time (he has been perpetually one since at least 2015)? I don't know enough about hard money/campaign finance law
to know.

But if not, I'm really not sure how it'd be possible to tie Cohen's transaction to the campaign (and therefore construe it as a campaign contribution).

But even still, the gift tax or other tax evasion angle is interesting, though for all we know I suppose, it's possible Cohen paid gift or other taxes on the 130k, right?

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
Stringer Bell
Member since Mar 15th 2004
2951 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 02:35 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
14. "Some interesting answers (or not) in this WaPo piece:"
In response to Reply # 12
Wed Feb-14-18 02:36 PM by Stringer Bell

          

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/02/14/we-know-that-stormy-daniels-got-paid-we-still-dont-know-if-the-payment-violated-the-law/?utm_term=.c3e2421caf65

"The first question, the one that Cohen’s statement tries to settle, is whether this counts as a campaign contribution. Obviously if money paid to Daniels had been routed through the campaign, then that would have been a campaign contribution. But that’s not the only way in which the payment would qualify as a contribution.

“It goes beyond the question of well, did it go through the campaign,” Noble said. “If it’s for the purpose of influencing the election, it’s a campaign contribution. The question here is, was it done for the purpose of the election?”

“Evidence that it was is, for one thing, the affair was about 10 years old at the time and all of a sudden about a month before the election they allegedly decide to pay her to not talk about it,” he added.

However, that’s not necessarily proof that the payment was a campaign contribution. Remarkably, if Cohen as part of his duties at the Trump Organization regularly made similar payments to other people in the same context — if, that is, he regularly paid tens of thousands of dollars to women to buy their silence — it would suggest that this particular payment might simply be business as usual and not related to Trump’s electoral efforts.

“If there was a history of these type of contributions, donations or gifts to Donald Trump from whoever gave it, then you might say, ‘Well, it’s just another gift that they were giving,'” Noble said.

This has come up before. Former U.S. Senate candidate Jeffrey Bell (R-N.J.), who died this week, was once investigated by the Federal Election Commission after receiving gifts from his mother that might have exceeded federal contribution limits, Noble said. If a candidate’s mother gives him $50,000 a month regularly, a $50,000 gift right before the election may not violate campaign finance laws. If Trump regularly asked Cohen to pay out money and Cohen did, it’s potentially the same sort of thing."

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
Stringer Bell
Member since Mar 15th 2004
2951 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 02:21 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
13. "I forgot to ask my most pressing question"
In response to Reply # 11


          

What is your gut instinct why Cohen has acknowledged this in this way?

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
Buddy_Gilapagos
Charter member
41429 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 03:41 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
19. "The fact out that he made the statement means to me it is something"
In response to Reply # 13


  

          

he couldn't hide. Sounds like he is trying to get ahead of stories of something that might be considered illegal by being proactive and framing it as something that is legal.

That's why I doubt he was paid directly back. If he had done something clearly illegal I think he wouldn't have copped to doing it.


What I always wonder about stories like this is if someome paid Stormy 130K to be quiet, why can't someone payer 260k or 500k to talk?




>What is your gut instinct why Cohen has acknowledged this in
>this way?
>
>


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
Stringer Bell
Member since Mar 15th 2004
2951 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 04:05 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
21. "I assume you mean why can't someone..."
In response to Reply # 19


          

... create an incentive system that cancels all her risk (which I've often wondered myself).

Because otherwise if they just immediately paid her the money (even in amount greater than the hush money) to talk, I assume all that money might be subject to lawsuits due to the NDA violation (obviously I'm speaking generically, outside the current context where the NDA might now be invalid).

But still your point stands, as it would seem they could craft an outcome where she is paid a small amount upfront, with a guarantee of further monies after the NDA violation lawsuit is resolved (and legal assistance during).





  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

flipnile
Member since Nov 05th 2003
9100 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 01:52 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
10. "Trump just couldn't get a lackey to drop off a shoebox with $130k in cas..."
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

Why make shit hard? Like buying drug w/ your credit card.

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Kira
Member since Nov 14th 2004
27530 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 02:42 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
15. "With this statement he admits to a campaign finance violation...."
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

Trump breaks the law and gets away with again. After Trump's time in office ends I never want to hear outrage from the right about politicians committing crimes or moral conduct unbefitting of an elected official.

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Marbles
Member since Oct 19th 2004
20682 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 03:26 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
16. "She thinks the lawyer violated the NDA (link)"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          


She thinks it may free her to talk about the whole thing.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/373851-stormy-daniels-believes-she-is-free-to-talk-about-trump-affair

Also, she's going to be here performing this weekend. LMAO!

http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/02/14/porn-star-stormy-daniels-cashing-in-on-trump-fame-with-visit-to-florida-strip-club/

She actually used to live here. A few years back, she & her husband had a domestic incident and she got arrested.

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
legsdiamond
Member since May 05th 2011
51806 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 03:30 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
17. "When you said performing I was like 0_0"
In response to Reply # 16


          

then realized it was stripping/dancing.

I thought she was about to go HAM.

shut up already, damn

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Stringer Bell
Member since Mar 15th 2004
2951 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 03:41 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
18. "EPIC."
In response to Reply # 16


          

.

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Numba_33
Charter member
16341 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 03:44 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
20. "All on Valentine's Day"
In response to Reply # 16


  

          

the perfect gift to Melania.

If this is true, I have to wonder how big this person's book deal will be.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
mista k5
Member since Feb 01st 2006
6710 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 04:08 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
22. "doubt theres anything she could say that will matter"
In response to Reply # 16


  

          

im sure someone will pay her plenty to talk though

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Marbles
Member since Oct 19th 2004
20682 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 04:25 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
23. "I agree..."
In response to Reply # 22


  

          


She could have the entire thing recorded & put it out thru Vivid Video. His supporters will do backflips to excuse him, anti-45ers will be outraged and everything will continue just as it has been. The only catch would be if they determine that there is a campaign finance violation.

I also think Melania knew what she was getting into. She's probably salty that it's so public though.

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
mista k5
Member since Feb 01st 2006
6710 posts
Wed Feb-14-18 05:21 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
24. "ive come to the full realization that his supporters will not turn on hi..."
In response to Reply # 23


  

          

ever

trump is known to have been friendly with the clintons before and they sure hate the clintons. it impacted hillary a lot more than it impacted him.

dont see him having to deal with any criminal charges directly. im 100% sure he is willing to throw anyone and everyone under the bus to save himself.

if the economy completely crashes i guess that would increase his chances of not being re-elected. can't hope for that.

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Buddy_Gilapagos
Charter member
41429 posts
Thu Feb-15-18 10:37 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
25. "Check Mate?"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/14/politics/stormy-daniels-michael-cohen/index.html

Does trump have to choose between admitting he is the beneficiary of the NDA in order to enforce it (thus violating campaign finance laws) or letting her speak and tell her story?


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
soulfunk
Charter member
8610 posts
Thu Feb-15-18 11:44 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
26. "He could just let her talk and say that she's lying. His base will "
In response to Reply # 25


  

          

believe him, and the media will eventually move on. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Unless she has video...

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
BrooklynWHAT
Member since Jun 15th 2007
74605 posts
Thu Feb-15-18 11:45 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
27. "yeah this yet another "scandal" im struggling to give a fuck about"
In response to Reply # 26


  

          

beyond the fact that it's funny.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
legsdiamond
Member since May 05th 2011
51806 posts
Thu Feb-15-18 11:48 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
28. "Even with video they will just cheer him on"
In response to Reply # 26


          

and the women will say “well, all men cheat”

shut up already, damn

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
JFrost1117
Member since Aug 12th 2005
22096 posts
Thu Feb-15-18 01:37 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
29. "RE: Even with video they will just cheer him on"
In response to Reply # 28


  

          

Melania is a saintly woman and much more classy than Michelle Obama for letting a man be a man and cheat in peace.

____________
Twitter & IG: @rulerofmyself
SC: rulerofmyself17

Yes! She's on the drugs. (c) BoHagon

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
mista k5
Member since Feb 01st 2006
6710 posts
Thu Feb-15-18 01:38 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
30. "i wouldnt be surprised if she left him while he's in office"
In response to Reply # 29


  

          

that won't matter to his supporters though

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
Stringer Bell
Member since Mar 15th 2004
2951 posts
Thu Feb-15-18 02:02 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
31. "Right. "
In response to Reply # 29


          

"Melania won't emasculate her man for being a go-getter the way that Amazonian Michelle would have. She had Barry's balls in her back pocket."

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

legsdiamond
Member since May 05th 2011
51806 posts
Fri Feb-16-18 11:44 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
32. "Trump did all his cheating and assaulting when he was a Dem"
In response to Reply # 0


          

Someone actually made this post in a comment section.

These folks are too far gone. I want to believe these types are trolling but this type of shit just makes me wonder if America is gone.

shut up already, damn

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Buddy_Gilapagos
Charter member
41429 posts
Fri Feb-16-18 11:53 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
33. "Might be Russians yo. "
In response to Reply # 32


  

          

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/russian-trolls-flood-twitter-after-parkland-shooting-n848471


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Reeq
Member since Mar 11th 2013
2822 posts
Fri Feb-16-18 12:50 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
34. "its so hard to tell nowadays. these people dont sound like real people."
In response to Reply # 33


  

          

until you turn on fox news...

------

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Lobby General Discussion topic #13234514 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.25
Copyright © DCScripts.com