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"The office of Sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage ..."


  

          

"The office of Sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement. We must never erode this historic office" : Attorney General Jeff Sessions speaking at the National Sheriff's Association winter conference in DC.

Sheesh

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no lies detected, I would add part of the Anglo American religion
Feb 12th 2018
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Was that off the cuff or in prepared remarks?
Feb 12th 2018
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Prepared from what I've read
Feb 12th 2018
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Deviated from prepared
Feb 12th 2018
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      Hmm...I might could buy this if it were anyone but Sessions
Feb 12th 2018
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      the dude literally did not say anglo american law lmao
Feb 12th 2018
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      I take Anglo in THIS CONTEXT to mean ENGLISH SPEAKING
Feb 12th 2018
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           ????
Feb 13th 2018
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Blatant
Feb 12th 2018
4
Overseer, Overseer, Overseer, Overseer
Feb 12th 2018
8
nigga took it back to Robin Hood.
Feb 12th 2018
10
Irony is Sheriff comes from Muslim governmental rule
Feb 12th 2018
11
No it doesn't
Feb 12th 2018
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It comes from 'shire,' which is about as Anglo as words get
Feb 12th 2018
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Le sigh you look at the first link on google with no research
Feb 12th 2018
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      You're really resistant to facts.
Feb 12th 2018
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      Or you don't know Arabic?
Feb 12th 2018
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           interesting that both represent authority and overlap esoterically
Feb 21st 2018
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           Lol trust I know much more arabic than you
Feb 21st 2018
36
well that was anti-climatic lol
Feb 13th 2018
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Sharif: from Arabic meaning noble, distinguished, and the like
Feb 13th 2018
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This source does not support the position that Sheriff is derived
Feb 14th 2018
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      it's probably a distant cousin or something
Feb 14th 2018
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           it's not. Arabic has had a major influence on European languages
Feb 14th 2018
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                Lol you just made my point
Feb 21st 2018
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That's simply a 'false friend'.
Feb 14th 2018
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      So the word in english was established 1000 years
Feb 21st 2018
35
as bad as all these trump peeps are their replacements will all be worse
Feb 12th 2018
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I would say, Anglo-American is a pretty common term when discussing
Feb 14th 2018
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Hmm... It’s 2018 tho. Prolly time to update that reference
Feb 14th 2018
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Well that's what I've been wondering since this dust up
Feb 14th 2018
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and as for the gold flag behind him while he said it?
Feb 22nd 2018
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He said Anglo-American heritage.
Feb 22nd 2018
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There had to be Black Sheriffs at this national conference, right?
Feb 14th 2018
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You are correct it was a Black sheriff at the conference
Feb 14th 2018
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Probably felt like the sun peeked through and shone only on him
Feb 22nd 2018
39
they knew what it was when they signed up
Feb 14th 2018
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code words means keep lynching and shooting at black people
Feb 14th 2018
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apparently the symbols do as well
Feb 21st 2018
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1. "no lies detected, I would add part of the Anglo American religion "
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but I digress.

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2. "Was that off the cuff or in prepared remarks?"
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Both are bad. But if it was in a written speech, sheesh

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3. "Prepared from what I've read "
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5. "Deviated from prepared"
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Sessions’ phrasing deviated from his prepared remarks as published by the Justice Department, where the line was “The Sheriff is a critical part of our legal heritage.”

Asked to clarify the meaning of Sessions’ improvisation, Justice Department spokesman Ian Prior told TPM by email: “Anglo-American law is another term for common law – which is the legal system that we use (as opposed to say, Napoleonic Code used in France) and is derived from the system of law that originated in England.”

“That said, I am confused as to why this is a story that you would need a comment on,” Prior added.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sessions-sheriff-anglo-american-heritage-policing-law-enforcement

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6. "Hmm...I might could buy this if it were anyone but Sessions"
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or this administration

>Sessions’ phrasing deviated from his prepared remarks as
>published by the Justice Department, where the line was “The
>Sheriff is a critical part of our legal heritage.”
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>Asked to clarify the meaning of Sessions’ improvisation,
>Justice Department spokesman Ian Prior told TPM by email:
>“Anglo-American law is another term for common law – which
>is the legal system that we use (as opposed to say, Napoleonic
>Code used in France) and is derived from the system of law
>that originated in England.”
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>“That said, I am confused as to why this is a story that you
>would need a comment on,” Prior added.
>
>https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sessions-sheriff-anglo-american-heritage-policing-law-enforcement

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7. "the dude literally did not say anglo american law lmao"
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what kind of bullshit is this lol

  

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9. "I take Anglo in THIS CONTEXT to mean ENGLISH SPEAKING"
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Not necessarily white (it is strongly implied) but necessarily ENGLISH SPEAKING nations.

So good news - he's just being racist against Mexicans - not EVERYONE other than whites in this very narrow and specific instance.

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18. "????"
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4. "Blatant"
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shut up already, damn

  

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8. "Overseer, Overseer, Overseer, Overseer"
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Officer, Officer, Officer, Officer!
Yeah, officer from overseer
You need a little clarity?
Check the similarity!

The overseer rode around the plantation
The officer is off patroling all the nation
The overseer could stop you what you're doing
The officer will pull you over just when he's pursuing

The overseer had the right to get ill
And if you fought back, the overseer had the right to kill
The officer has the right to arrest
And if you fight back to put a hole in your chest!

(Woop!) They both ride horses
After 400 years, I've got no choices!
The police them have a little gun
So when I'm on the streets, I walk around with a bigger one

(Woop-woop!) I hear it all day
Just so they can run the light and be upon their way

Woop-woop!
It's the sound of da police!

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10. "nigga took it back to Robin Hood."
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11. "Irony is Sheriff comes from Muslim governmental rule"
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where the Sharif means Muslim ruler of magistrate.

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13. "No it doesn't"
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14. "It comes from 'shire,' which is about as Anglo as words get"
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15. "Le sigh you look at the first link on google with no research"
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and come with this lazy half witted etymology?

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16. "You're really resistant to facts."
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17. "Or you don't know Arabic?"
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32. "interesting that both represent authority and overlap esoterically "
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Notice the symbols and names (ignore titles i.e. potentate, etc.)
http://www.schulenburgsticker.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/Bucek%20donation.jpg?itok=LrRmm9GX

https://www.ebth.com/items/8035381-vintage-shriners-fez


Compared to these
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/569072102893209634/

It's well known that shriners and as you probably guessed freemasons go hand in hand. The fraternal order of police which is the organization Darren Wilson called first after murdering Michael Brown (RIP) was started by two police freemasons.

"33rd Degree Mason American Presidents Study The Quran (Islam) In Secret" would be the tie in according to the Lawyer and leader for the New BPP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYB_c1GKHx0

Lastly you'll notice the sword above the head denoting death and judgement along with the moon god imagery

Came across this by accident. A book by Satanist Allistair Crowley
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/03/34/1603341c74fbbd3147ea92d04f6c2398.jpg

and these
http://ch-metalcrafts.com/images/New-Home-Page_cropped.jpg

Crowley was a high level Mason as well

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36. "Lol trust I know much more arabic than you"
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and most of the Arabic terms borrowed by ENGLISH come from much older ARAMAIC the Greeks borrowed from THAT STEMS FROM "Ancient Egyptian" or Kemetic mdu ntr.

I mean but what do I know why are english people using these funny "arabic" symbols for numbers?

Why not ROMAN NUMERALS?

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19. "well that was anti-climatic lol"
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20. "Sharif: from Arabic meaning noble, distinguished, and the like"
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traditionally an honorific title bestowed on high born ruling class family members

Even though Muhammad forbade noble titles, nowadays a Sharif is a descendant of his, and of course they have high status in society

King Abdullah of Jordan and the ruling Hashemite family are Sharif

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi also claims to be a Sharif, and is one of the basis for his claim to be the caliph

https://www.britannica.com/topic/sharif

  

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22. "This source does not support the position that Sheriff is derived"
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from Sharif.


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26. "it's probably a distant cousin or something"
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like alcohol, which comes from al kohl

http://www.drinkingcup.net/1232-1315-origin-of-the-word-alcohol/

  

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30. "it's not. Arabic has had a major influence on European languages"
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since Arabs took over the Iberian peninsula for damn near a millennia.

but this is not one of those times.

sheriff is not related to sharif.

the wikipedia page for sharif even points this out in the article's header.

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34. "Lol you just made my point"
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and said this instance doesn't count, but facts are british or the anglos and saxons borrowed heavy from the Moors in fact it's no coincidence their first university was created after interacting with Moorish empire in modern day Spain but they just happened to skip over a word when they borrowed entire libraries?

Read History and Impact of Moors in Spain by Dr Jose Pimienta Bey then check it's sources then know what you talking about before you do a quick and lazy google search via etymology which is totally false.

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21. "That's simply a 'false friend'."
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sheriff (n.)
late Old English scirgerefa "representative of royal authority in a shire," from scir (see shire) + gerefa "chief, official, reeve" (see reeve). As an American county official, attested from 1660s; sheriff's sale first recorded 1798. Sheriff's tooth (late 14c.) was a common name for the annual tax levied to pay for the sheriff's victuals during court sessions.

  

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35. "So the word in english was established 1000 years"
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after the one in Arabic

but it's a false friend?

Kind of like how Columbus hiked his genocidal ass across the trade winds Moors and other indigenous people had been using for thousands of years 10 MONTHS after the Moors were defeated in Spain.

False friend these nuts yall gotta research better google is lazy.

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12. "as bad as all these trump peeps are their replacements will all be worse"
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like if we finally get rid of Sessions or Kelly, it's hard to imagine their successors not being far worse

The only people who seem to want to work for this administration are those willing to sacrifice their principles, or dont have any principles, or people with enough dirt in their past that they could never get a job with a real president, or people who actually look up to Donald Trump. The closer they have to work with him, the worse you'll get. We're pretty fucked.

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23. "I would say, Anglo-American is a pretty common term when discussing"
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American law and is a common reference to the fact that our legal system is based on the English legal system. It's a term I heard pretty frequently in law school. I bet you could find plenty of references to the term by Con Law Professor Obama.

I wouldn't get too worked up over this one.


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24. "Hmm... It’s 2018 tho. Prolly time to update that reference "
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shut up already, damn

  

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25. "Well that's what I've been wondering since this dust up"
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Its a professional term to indicate that our jurisprudence is based on English Law as oppose to, Napoleonic Law (which Louisiana is based on) or Spanish Law.

It's sort of being offended by the name of the Anglican Church.

Some folks better talk about it here:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/jeff-sessions-and-anglo-americanism

And I do agree with that writer's point that it's a bit tone def but if it is a dog whistle it's a dog whistle that makes critics look kind of dumb because they don't know the history of the term. I mean in here got folks talking about its a muslim term when clearly it isn't.

It's the Niggardly argument all over again.

All just to say, I wouldn't get too worked up about it.


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37. "and as for the gold flag behind him while he said it? "
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the combined and re-asserted symbolic messages speak clearly to me...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces

  

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38. "He said Anglo-American heritage. "
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His words.
Not the heritage of enforcement of Anglo-American law.
Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement

Anglo-American (descriptor) heritage (subject) of law enforcement (secondary subject)

In this case Anglo-American describes the type of heritage and law enforcement.

His written words read "the sheriff is a critical part of our legal heritage"

Anglo-American is not a synonym for legal.

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27. "There had to be Black Sheriffs at this national conference, right?"
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28. "You are correct it was a Black sheriff at the conference"
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http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/Florida-sheriff-Jeff-Sessions-Anglo-American-comments-divisive-_165442684



The comments sparked a contentious debate as critics accused him of coded racism, eroding police-community relations and, in the opinion of Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings, dividing Americans. Demings, who is black, said he was present at the conference and that Sessions’ remarks were "met with mixed applause in a mostly Anglo crowd of American sheriffs."

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flipnile
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39. "Probably felt like the sun peeked through and shone only on him"
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Just hot hot-as-fuck all of a sudden w/ everybody applauding & shit. Meanwhile, he's statue-still with that single bead of sweat rolling down the side of his face.

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Atillah Moor
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29. "they knew what it was when they signed up "
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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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mistermaxxx08
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31. "code words means keep lynching and shooting at black people"
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that racist elmur fudd head turkey ain't never been no good

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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Atillah Moor
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33. "apparently the symbols do as well "
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