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"Black Panther is an isolationist"


  

          

Been seeing this in comment sections

"Black Panther is an isolationist, a Wakandan nationalist who puts his people and country first before anything, he has the ultimate border wall (equipped with a hologram dome), he refuses to help the countries around him, and does what he can to stay out of worldly affairs if it doesn't affect Wakanda. He embodies literally everything that the left hates, but they ignore all of that just because he's African. Which is kind of sad funny...

All of these are supposedly "horrible" attributes to have, yet they're in place because he just wants to protect his prospering country..

Sound familiar?"

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lol
Feb 07th 2018
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I gotta see how the flick handles it
Feb 07th 2018
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Well that's what TNC's take has been about
Feb 08th 2018
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For black folks really can't be any other way. If folks take it to heart
Feb 07th 2018
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Maybe T'Challa was freaked out
Feb 07th 2018
4
They probably got a sacred tree that reads remember mansa musa
Feb 07th 2018
5
he is also a fictional character.
Feb 07th 2018
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Yeah but we call out fictional characters as well
Feb 07th 2018
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      critiquing fictional characters is one thing.
Feb 07th 2018
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           Haha true
Feb 07th 2018
14
I'm not up on my Wakandan history
Feb 07th 2018
8
meterorite crashed into Wakanda with hella vibranium
Feb 07th 2018
11
      so these fools think it's a #maga analogue, but it's more like ghost dan...
Feb 07th 2018
17
Right-wingers like all sorts of comic-book fantasies.
Feb 07th 2018
10
Marvel Studios' Black Panther is going to address those issues
Feb 07th 2018
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yep look at this shit
Feb 07th 2018
13
Facebook banned a group that was formed to put out negative reviews
Feb 07th 2018
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I enjoyed reading Atlas Shrugged *shrug*
Feb 07th 2018
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I sure didn't.
Feb 08th 2018
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Europeans are stupid!
Feb 07th 2018
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That's part of film and it started being addressed in Captain America: C...
Feb 07th 2018
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hahahaha
Feb 07th 2018
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why must EVERYTHING have 'The Weight' on it these days???sheeeesh.
Feb 08th 2018
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nope people want to get in their 2 cent hot takes.
Feb 08th 2018
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do you want to start in the 18th century or the 8th ?
Feb 08th 2018
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this is kinda funny coming from you..
Feb 08th 2018
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      TV shows and dramas and stuff yeah...because many of them
Feb 08th 2018
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           word
Feb 09th 2018
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It's the exact weak argument Piers Morgan Makes about kissing
Feb 08th 2018
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Thomas Sankara should of been that way, or at least
Feb 08th 2018
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MEAT
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1. "lol"
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IkeMoses
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2. "I gotta see how the flick handles it"
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But yeah, that's been his M.O. in the comics (I haven't read TNC's take).

He's also like a monarch and shit, which is pretty anti-democratic from jump.

The character could and should be used to explore and critique those conflicts.

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You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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29. "Well that's what TNC's take has been about"
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How does this hyper-advanced civilization still have a monarchy

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Atillah Moor
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3. "For black folks really can't be any other way. If folks take it to heart"
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Wed Feb-07-18 05:59 PM by Atillah Moor

  

          

That's a good thing

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4. "Maybe T'Challa was freaked out"
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by the European colonialism that decimated much of the continent?

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Atillah Moor
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5. "They probably got a sacred tree that reads remember mansa musa"
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Wed Feb-07-18 06:24 PM by Atillah Moor

  

          

Never forget

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6. "he is also a fictional character."
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Wed Feb-07-18 06:37 PM by Reeq

          

lol @ 'they ignore all of that just because hes african'. maybe they ignore all of that just because he is fake?

the desperate levels trump supporters go to just to 'prove a point' is pretty funny. if you gotta dig into a fictional universe just to get a counter-argument...

  

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7. "Yeah but we call out fictional characters as well"
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about anything that mirrors or relates to shit in real life

not sure when that has stopped anyone from making correlations *shrugs*


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9. "critiquing fictional characters is one thing."
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using a fictional character to prosecute your political opponents because of their lack of dogmatic consistency across both reality and fantasy is silly as hell fam.

a lot of conservatives love scarface but embrace a restrictionist immigration policy they think will inhibit the flow of crime and drugs into our country. are they hypocrites? lol.

think about the rabbit hole we are going down lmao.

  

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14. "Haha true"
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I'm just saying it's done on both sides whether people choose realise that is different


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8. "I'm not up on my Wakandan history"
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were they colonizers? did they exploit their residents and those neighbors to build that country?

  

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11. "meterorite crashed into Wakanda with hella vibranium"
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Wed Feb-07-18 07:11 PM by IkeMoses

  

          

a white explorer tried to snatch it all up and killed T'Chaka (BP's dad) with some fancy vibranium weapon.

T'Challa (BP) drives the white explorers out with one of them weapons and takes control of the nation's vibranium, which leads to rapid industrialization and scientific discovery.

T'Challa hides this from the rest of the world to protect his country from invasion.

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17. "so these fools think it's a #maga analogue, but it's more like ghost dan..."
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i kind of get it, their library of metaphors is probably limited.

  

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10. "Right-wingers like all sorts of comic-book fantasies. "
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This doesn't say much about the politics of the fans.

It says a lot more about the sophistication of the right-wing politicians and voters.

  

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12. "Marvel Studios' Black Panther is going to address those issues "
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all these dudes rushing to discredit the film and character are the same assholes who hate when a non-white character takes over the mantle of some old white superhero

  

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13. "yep look at this shit"
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Wed Feb-07-18 08:29 PM by sndesai1

  

          

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1825683/ratings?ref_=tt_ov_rt

20%+ of imdb ratings are a 1 (the 10s are obviously sus too and how are there 6000 ratings?)...lmao at the dropoff male 30-44

  

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16. "Facebook banned a group that was formed to put out negative reviews"
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this past week

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A lot of you players ain't okay.

We would have been better off with an okaycivics board instead of an okayactivist board

  

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15. "I enjoyed reading Atlas Shrugged *shrug*"
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23. "I sure didn't."
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18. "Europeans are stupid!"
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The end.









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19. "That's part of film and it started being addressed in Captain America: C..."
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King T'Chaka's speech to the UN before he's killed:

"When stolen Wakandan vibranium was used to make a terrible weapon, we in Wakanda were forced to question our legacy. Those men and women killed in Nigeria, were part of a goodwill mission from a country too long in the shadows. We will not, however, let misfortune drive us back. We will fight to improve the world we wish to join. I am grateful to the Avengers for supporting this initiative. Wakanda is proud to extend its hand in peace. "

  

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20. "hahahaha"
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just say Black Nationalist

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21. "why must EVERYTHING have 'The Weight' on it these days???sheeeesh."
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can't even enjoy a fckin fantasy flick....


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22. "nope people want to get in their 2 cent hot takes."
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24. "do you want to start in the 18th century or the 8th ?"
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27. "this is kinda funny coming from you.. "
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I seem to remember a few shows where you put the weight on it.

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28. "TV shows and dramas and stuff yeah...because many of them"
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>I seem to remember a few shows where you put the weight on
>it.
Are essentially aiming to be aligned in real time with current society.
Some movies even...but when it comes to fantasy??? psshh...nah. I mean I understand that historically comic books DO meld reality and social issues with the fantasy world...but.....man fck it... Y'all ain't about about to be out here disparaging Black Panther!

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30. "word"
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25. "It's the exact weak argument Piers Morgan Makes about kissing"
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Donald Trumps butt.

https://www.thecut.com/2018/02/piers-morgan-posts-crude-trump-image.html

or Why Isn't there a White History Month.

Or Trump Complaining the trade deficit with Mexico, a country whose economy is almost one tenth the size of the US.


I feel like the Right's latest trend is to try and use progressives arguments against them but what it reveals is that conservatives fundamentally don't understand progressive stances.

Fairness and Equality isn't treating everyone the same.

Fairness is taking into consideration because of circumstances and adjusting appropriately.

Haven't seen the movie to judge where Wakanda's isolationism is a bad thing but Isolationism in itself isn't inherently bad and there could be justifications for it.



BTW, I am not that worked up about fictional Wakanda but I was going to make a post about conservatives not understanding and misusing progressive arguments but this just happened to be an example of it.


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26. "Thomas Sankara should of been that way, or at least "
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more Castro with his cabinet.


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