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double negative
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"I miss the old Kanye, straight from the go Kanye"


  

          

I was looking at the stuff thats been floating around the internet about Yeezy season 6 - https://garage.vice.com/en_us/article/bjywvd/yeezy-season-6-is-selling-kim-kardashian

and it hit me, the only thing Kanye represents now is wealth.

Not, "we made it!" wealth
Not, "I'm not supposed fucking to be here" wealth
Not, "fuck you, I'm going to be me" wealth
Not, "fuck the dominant paradigm, we niggas with money" wealth

The visuals are all pointing to wealth and I don't mean it from the perspective of consumerism by way of flashing possessions and name dropping brands in songs (of which hes done a lot obviously)

Its this LA cool, low key, nothing to worry about vibe.

I'm not mad at it, its just a shift I've started to notice. If you look at his very old interviews or hear the stories about old Kanye you could see where he was going

Its almost as if he was striving to get somewhere and that came out as insecurity but now it seems he hit his mark.

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this viral campaign for season 6 is genius
Jan 31st 2018
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RE: this viral campaign for season 6 is genius
Jan 31st 2018
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He's always been about high fashion though.
Jan 31st 2018
2
right? He's been carrying the Art Director steez for forever
Jan 31st 2018
3
i think i'm noticing his template
Jan 31st 2018
7
he is more well adjusted than i would have been considering
Jan 31st 2018
4
Smh I thought this was about a new album
Jan 31st 2018
5
i bet money we wont have another one for a long long long time
Jan 31st 2018
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      Eh I expect one fall 2018
Jan 31st 2018
9
      do you think he hit a creative wall?
Feb 01st 2018
12
      I'll take that bet... How much?
Feb 01st 2018
19
*bumps “The Truth”
Jan 31st 2018
10
allathat? word? i just think he got nerd-that-got-da-hot-girl syndrome
Jan 31st 2018
11
Yeah, these 2 were made for each other
Feb 01st 2018
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high fashion is such a waste of energy
Feb 01st 2018
13
I think so too. The "Art" I least respect.
Feb 01st 2018
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      the whole point of high fashion is art and craftsmanship, man
Feb 01st 2018
17
first three albums... you all can keep the rest
Feb 01st 2018
15
i really like "Family Business"
Feb 01st 2018
18

BrooklynWHAT
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1. "this viral campaign for season 6 is genius"
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yeezy season forever.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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8. "RE: this viral campaign for season 6 is genius"
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Extremely...

His understanding and manipulation of the zeitgeist is something to see

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Ryan M
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Wed Jan-31-18 06:22 PM

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2. "He's always been about high fashion though."
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Which is everything you're saying, but he's been straight up about that the whole time he's been...well, a public figure.

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hardware
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Wed Jan-31-18 06:59 PM

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3. "right? He's been carrying the Art Director steez for forever"
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he just finally has the backing to do it.

  

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7. "i think i'm noticing his template "
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as in, it seems he would rather be old money on the yacht....err, the yacht thing seems more northeast and less so-cal - whatever the socal version of old money is, hes at that

but, you're right hes been at this forever

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tomjohn29
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Wed Jan-31-18 07:01 PM

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4. "he is more well adjusted than i would have been considering "
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its amazing people still debate old/new Ye

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Cenario
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Wed Jan-31-18 07:52 PM

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5. "Smh I thought this was about a new album"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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6. "i bet money we wont have another one for a long long long time"
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BrooklynWHAT
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9. "Eh I expect one fall 2018"
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12. "do you think he hit a creative wall?"
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not in terms of whether you like his music or not, but just in terms of his own ability to believe in the work he puts out?

if you think back to 2016, I don't think there was ever a time in his career where Kanye made so many lofty promises. TurboGrafx16, the never-ending production of Life of Pablo, the iOS video game, Cruel Winter...yet 2017 was the quietest year for Kanye musically ever. One beat and one feature according to his wiki, so maybe just a few more than that but maybe not...

The positive angle is he took time to be with his wife and kids and work on himself and focus on the fashion angle and find new ways to innovate in hip-hop that aren't going further down the trap or cloud rap spiral. The negative angle is that he unleashed a lot of creative and emotional energy in 2016 and none of it landed the way he'd hoped or in most cases even reached the masses and now he's sort of rudderless for the first time.


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19. "I'll take that bet... How much?"
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Coolin...

  

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DJR
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10. "*bumps “The Truth”"
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_explain555
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11. "allathat? word? i just think he got nerd-that-got-da-hot-girl syndrome"
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Wed Jan-31-18 11:34 PM by _explain555

          


like lil man syndrome

except its cuz of women


ionno what happened to Ye when he is young but this nigga NEEDS erry nigga on earth beatin it to his wife

and erry girl to be jealous of her

shit she need it too

they put batteries in each others back on some super narcissist shit







  

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legsdiamond
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16. "Yeah, these 2 were made for each other"
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They both crave stardom and attention and it works well for them.

I’m not seeing the genius in this campaign or the genius in these clothes.

Shit looks mad basic but dude can sell a $300 white T so... what do I know.

Some of his sneakers are ok but I’m too old to care. If I was in my early 20’s it would be different but I just want a good album.

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13. "high fashion is such a waste of energy"
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14. "I think so too. The "Art" I least respect. "
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17. "the whole point of high fashion is art and craftsmanship, man"
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Thu Feb-01-18 11:30 AM by hardware

          

there's usually only one outfit and its not going in a store

the runway is basically a gallery show. same with awards shows. aint nobody wearing that to dinner.

  

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Amritsar
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15. "first three albums... you all can keep the rest"
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mista k5
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18. "i really like "Family Business""
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i have appreciated most of his new music but i think that song captures a lot of what really got me excited about him.

something was definitely lacking in life of pablo. im thinking he's not in his best state of mind right now for creating music but would not be surprised to see him come back with his best work in a couple of years.

  

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