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MEAT
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"There have been 11 school shootings in 2018"


  

          

I feel for the parents out there man. This is a sick country.

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*looks at calendar* holy fucking shit
Jan 24th 2018
1
Considering New Years holiday and Presidents' Day holiday
Jan 24th 2018
3
right? there's only 13 possible days for kids to be in school this month
Jan 24th 2018
5
      Yeah That's What's Really Disturbing
Feb 14th 2018
69
That border wall can't be built fast enough!
Jan 24th 2018
2
C'mon, man. You know this is all BLM's influence. LAW AND ORDER!!!
Jan 24th 2018
4
We never had such violence and divisiveness until Obummer took over!
Jan 24th 2018
6
no one believes it but this is not happening just because
Jan 24th 2018
7
'it disrespects our military'
Jan 24th 2018
24
Damn
Jan 24th 2018
8
Fuck. Is there some kind of infographic on where these are
Jan 24th 2018
9
https://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook
Jan 24th 2018
20
      from looking at the map, these have to be influencing each other
Jan 24th 2018
27
Source? That seems unreasonably high
Jan 24th 2018
10
2 were suicides and one was a pellet gun fired at a bus
Jan 24th 2018
14
      I wouldn't classify most of those as "school shootings"...
Jan 24th 2018
21
      legislation nowadays is fear based.
Jan 24th 2018
26
      Outside of FISA what was the last fear based legislation?
Jan 24th 2018
34
           Bathroom bills. immigration policy
Jan 24th 2018
35
                That's localized fear attributed to non threats, paranoia empowered
Jan 24th 2018
36
                     It seems like you're only looking at fear through your own eyes.
Jan 24th 2018
37
                          I think those folks know those aren’t real dangers
Jan 24th 2018
39
      Seems they felt the need to bend and stretch to get the # over 10
Jan 24th 2018
40
      some of these sound like old school gun incidents
Jan 24th 2018
28
agreed, i feel bad for children
Jan 24th 2018
11
It's messed up
Jan 24th 2018
29
ny times link:
Jan 24th 2018
12
The New Orleans shooting doesn't fit the profile of "school shooting"
Jan 24th 2018
13
I mean... if it’s real bullets being aimed at students it counts
Jan 24th 2018
15
Nah. It's misleading.
Jan 24th 2018
17
      Someone has to be shot for it to be a shooting?
Jan 24th 2018
25
So within walking distance from a school aimed at students during school...
Jan 24th 2018
16
I'd argue that there were more than 11 "school shootings" then
Jan 24th 2018
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      I'd argue that you're being unnecessarily pedantic.
Jan 24th 2018
30
Right, ten is so much easier to live with than eleven
Jan 24th 2018
22
      More like two or three in my eyes
Jan 24th 2018
23
      yes it is
Jan 24th 2018
41
           What are YOU talking about? How is 1 as bad as 20?
Jan 24th 2018
42
                You don't have to lose a pinky toe
Feb 01st 2018
44
      there's only so many I can accept as collateral damage for my freedomz
Jan 24th 2018
31
           GUN OWNERS ARE THE MOST PERSECUTED PEOPLE IN AMERICA!
Jan 24th 2018
33
Shit! This was my high school today, luckily no one was hurt
Jan 24th 2018
19
This happened the other day where i played lil league football
Jan 24th 2018
38
      re: air pistols aka fake ass guns
Feb 14th 2018
47
           RE: re: air pistols aka fake ass guns
Feb 14th 2018
54
and 80 something police shootings.
Jan 24th 2018
32
RE: There have been 11 school shootings in 2018
Feb 01st 2018
43
BREAKING: Authorities say they're responding to a shooting at a Florida ...
Feb 14th 2018
45
A little more info (link)
Feb 14th 2018
46
White House has already issued “thoughts and prayers”
Feb 14th 2018
48
“thoughts and prayers” so probably white?
Feb 14th 2018
65
what can be done
Feb 14th 2018
49
Starters: declare gun violence a health epidemic (which it is)
Feb 14th 2018
50
Too soon to talk about gun control/research
Feb 14th 2018
51
fukk that.....
Feb 14th 2018
73
      woosh
Feb 15th 2018
75
how do we make that happen
Feb 14th 2018
52
Time travel to 1978, Kill Reagan, Gringrich, and Norquist
Feb 14th 2018
57
      well that dude from 2030 is here
Feb 14th 2018
59
The Secret Service did research these shootings after Columbine....
Feb 14th 2018
56
      How big is their work force and budget?
Feb 14th 2018
58
      This was done in the 90s.... links
Feb 15th 2018
105
      it's not even just gun control
Feb 14th 2018
64
nothing. too far gone.
Feb 14th 2018
53
yup
Feb 14th 2018
55
      agreed
Feb 14th 2018
60
make it very difficult to own the guns that do this
Feb 14th 2018
63
couldn't 2 hand guns have the same impact?
Feb 15th 2018
81
      No. Between reload time, weight, accuracy, trigger pressure
Feb 15th 2018
84
      this style of rifle is made for a reason
Feb 21st 2018
123
      it would cut the casualties in half
Feb 20th 2018
115
      no. that's why no one does that.
Feb 21st 2018
122
Nothing. The US is ingrained in gun culture
Feb 14th 2018
66
reading at least 16 dead...goodness, wtf
Feb 14th 2018
61
so sad
Feb 14th 2018
62
17 was the last number I heard
Feb 14th 2018
67
Valentine's Day Massacre Not sure if Amerikkka can shed the blood its ha...
Feb 14th 2018
68
just. damn. nm
Feb 14th 2018
70
One of the tactics of colonist in the Americas
Feb 14th 2018
71
Rick Scott has got to be the poster boy for
Feb 14th 2018
72
Crazy yesterday's shooting doesn't even get it's own post.
Feb 15th 2018
74
right
Feb 15th 2018
76
It won't even be mentioned in a week or more.
Feb 15th 2018
77
I kinda figured it didn't BECAUSE this post exists
Feb 15th 2018
78
bruh.. ain't shit ti really post or discuss since it happens so often
Feb 15th 2018
80
      And keeping it in one post helps connect the narrative.
Feb 15th 2018
83
      This one was major though
Feb 15th 2018
103
does trumps right eye work?
Feb 15th 2018
79
in a chat group with a lot of vets
Feb 15th 2018
82
There were cops with guns at that school
Feb 15th 2018
85
Because armed vets are to be trusted in a non stop stressful environment...
Feb 15th 2018
88
This is insane
Feb 15th 2018
89
pretty much
Feb 15th 2018
93
sounds like some aliens vs predators shit.
Feb 15th 2018
91
we about to look like Israel or Afghanistan
Feb 15th 2018
92
crazy how there have been 18 school shootings in the rest of the world
Feb 15th 2018
95
I love how they think by arming teachers, they'll turn into John McClane
Feb 15th 2018
100
We have to buy our own supplies and copies
Feb 15th 2018
102
I'm a vet and that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Feb 15th 2018
104
Man I can't take these people copping pleas yet again
Feb 15th 2018
86
BREAKING: Leader of white nationalist group has confirmed
Feb 15th 2018
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RE: BREAKING: Leader of white nationalist group has confirmed
Feb 15th 2018
90
damn.
Feb 15th 2018
94
a lot of comments were focused on the cruz last name
Feb 15th 2018
96
Infowars were pushing the 'lefty-democrat' angle hard...
Feb 15th 2018
98
red herring. that dude's family gave him all the training he needed
Feb 15th 2018
99
      you beautiful bastard. don't ever change.
Feb 15th 2018
101
A quick summary of Florida's gun laws (CNN swipe)
Feb 15th 2018
97
Florida is a place a will never visit voluntarily
Feb 15th 2018
106
cops called to his house 39 times in 7 years
Feb 16th 2018
107
seems the narrative on the right for this one is to blame the FBI
Feb 16th 2018
108
Yup. It’s disgusting.
Feb 17th 2018
109
yeah even gov rick scott was calling for the resignation of chris wray.
Feb 17th 2018
110
Oh, #45 went there,earlier, on Twitter...
Feb 18th 2018
111
This is Anthony Borges, 15. He used his body to hold a classroom door sh...
Feb 18th 2018
112
Jackson Township, Ohio: Student shoots self on campus
Feb 20th 2018
113
smh
Feb 20th 2018
114
404
Feb 20th 2018
116
      Just take the two dots off at the end.
Feb 20th 2018
117
           Oh thanks
Feb 20th 2018
118
Yoo, who are these ppl coming at the victims on Twitter?
Feb 20th 2018
119
RE: Yoo, who are these ppl coming at the victims on Twitter?
Feb 20th 2018
120
thinking the other day, wow these dynamic, articulate kids gave me hope
Feb 20th 2018
121
      Some supremacist blogs shouldn’t take away your hope
Feb 21st 2018
124
CMU student kills parents on campus.
Mar 02nd 2018
125
Wow...wasn't expecting that (he Black)
Mar 02nd 2018
127
It’s a sick country indeed
Mar 02nd 2018
126
Alabana hs today
Mar 07th 2018
128
Seaside High teacher accidentally fires gun in class, students injured
Mar 14th 2018
129
Lawd
Mar 14th 2018
130
Isn't this the 2nd incident like this since Trump proposed arming teache...
Mar 14th 2018
131
Yes it is
Mar 14th 2018
132
RE: Seaside High teacher accidentally fires gun in class, students inju...
Mar 14th 2018
133
Research shows school shootings are not a growing epidemic (swipe)
Mar 16th 2018
134
According to their own data the shootings are trending back up
Mar 16th 2018
135
      I think the stats are important when it comes time to make a decision
Mar 16th 2018
136
           u ignored all his points JUST to restate yours lol
Mar 20th 2018
138
                His points were statistical. I don't have the data
Mar 20th 2018
139
                     mainly bc you are focused on the hardening of schools
Mar 20th 2018
140
                          I'm focused on hardening schools bc that's what the article is focused o...
Mar 20th 2018
141
One in MD today
Mar 20th 2018
137
has the movement lost steam?
Mar 20th 2018
142
101 mass shootings in 2018.
May 18th 2018
143
More killed in school than combat in 2018
May 18th 2018
144
gotdamn.. the recent jump makes it hard not to blame Trump
May 18th 2018
145
      naww, 100% blame Trump
May 18th 2018
146
...and on and on.
May 25th 2018
147

KiloMcG
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1. "*looks at calendar* holy fucking shit"
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MEAT
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3. "Considering New Years holiday and Presidents' Day holiday"
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That shit looks even bleaker.

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5. "right? there's only 13 possible days for kids to be in school this month"
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69. "Yeah That's What's Really Disturbing"
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How in the hell has 11 other school shootings have went down without hardly any mass media, usually we hear about it heavily when something like this goes down (like today), but it's just scary when you think kids still have 3 & 1/2 more months of school to attend, is this really the sick state of affairs we are in?

I hope this is the last of school shootings but...well you know.


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2. "That border wall can't be built fast enough!"
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4. "C'mon, man. You know this is all BLM's influence. LAW AND ORDER!!!"
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6. "We never had such violence and divisiveness until Obummer took over!"
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7. "no one believes it but this is not happening just because "
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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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24. "'it disrespects our military'"
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8. "Damn"
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1 month in.

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T Reynolds
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9. "Fuck. Is there some kind of infographic on where these are"
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taking place?

Just to wrap my head around what the fuck is driving these occurrences?

  

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20. "https://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook"
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https://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook

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T Reynolds
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27. "from looking at the map, these have to be influencing each other"
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The pockets around Des Moines and in Nebraska are just two examples of clustered occurrences surrounded by untouched landscape

Obviously there could be a factor we are blind to that causes clustering

  

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10. "Source? That seems unreasonably high"
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14. "2 were suicides and one was a pellet gun fired at a bus"
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but it’s still high as shit. It’s America so more than likely this will continue to rise.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/school-shootings-2018_us_5a68586de4b002283007ef83

shut up already, damn

  

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21. "I wouldn't classify most of those as "school shootings"..."
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as we usually think of them (someone entering a school and gunning people down).
More like gun shots that just happened to take place at or around a school.
Calling them "school shootings" just sensationalizes it, imo. That's why I was so shocked at the number 11

All of them are terrible events that shouldn't happen. But to lump them all together is just a way to create article headlines

Random drive-by shooting?: Someone driving by the school fired on a group of students in the parking lot. Only one boy was injured.

Murder at a sorority party: Following an argument, a 21-year-old Winston-Salem University student was shot and killed during a sorority event at Wake Forest University.

Gun fight in college parking lot: Two people in a car exchanged gunfire with a person in a dormitory parking lot. No one was injured, but a bullet was fired into a dorm room with three female students inside.

Suicide: A 14-year-old died in a school bathroom from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.


Stupid mistake: A student confused a training weapon with a real one and fired a bullet through a classroom wall. No students were injured.

BB Gun: A 32-year-old man fired a pellet gun at a school bus, shattering one of the windows. No students were injured.

Suicide: A man standing in the school’s parking lot called 911 saying he was suicidal. He spoke with a county official for several hours on the phone, according to local media, but ultimately shot himself and died from a single gunshot wound.

Drive by shots: Two shots were fired at the school from outside the building. No students were injured.

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26. "legislation nowadays is fear based."
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and it starts with sensationalized headlines.

this is what certain posters mean when they say a lotta this shit is just a distraction.

people are dumb sometimes and easily swayed.

in a system where only THOSE kinda people's voices count, you end up with #45 for Cmdr in Chief

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34. "Outside of FISA what was the last fear based legislation?"
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Nothing was passed after Las Vegas
Nothing was passed after Sandy Hook
Nothing has been passed to deal with climate change
Nothing has been passed to deal with AI
Nothing has been passed to deal with self driving cars
Nothing has been passed to deal with Furgeson/Baltimore/New Orleans/NYC police abuse
Nothing was passed after the BLM standoff
Nothing was passed after the Oregon standoff
Nothing was passed after the Keystone pipeline standoff
Nothing was passed to deal with foreign interference in elections
Nothing has been passed to deal with the rise in white domestic terrorism
Nothing has been passed to deal with the option crisis
The program that was providing an alternative to white domestic radicalism was left to be non funded
The legislation to protect against the housing and credit crisis was weakened
Title IX is being dismantled
Citizens United dismantled the election system




What fears are being indulged via legislation?




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35. "Bathroom bills. immigration policy"
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MEAT
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36. "That's localized fear attributed to non threats, paranoia empowered"
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But the things that actually threaten the mortality and safety of the population at large?

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37. "It seems like you're only looking at fear through your own eyes."
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The fear that some people have about men going into women's bathrooms or islamic terrorist and violent Mexicans infiltrating the country is as real and threatening to them as police violence, climate change, white domestic terrorism is to you.

The things that you claim to be actual threats to mortality and safety, they dismiss as paranoia.

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39. "I think those folks know those aren’t real dangers"
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they are just easily swayed by TV and evangelist.

They also think they are the types who can save the day with their guns.

It’s so irrational it’s scary. My coworker was scared her adult daughter who was hooked on heroin and skipping school while also totaling her car could be attacked by a man in a dress. All because it was on the news. Never mind that for 18 years of her life she never had that fear.

I hate those people

shut up already, damn

  

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40. "Seems they felt the need to bend and stretch to get the # over 10"
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because 6 didn't make for a good enough headline (even though it should).

i don't find it helpful because it turns the conversation to things like how ridiculous it is to include a kid shooting a bb gun at a bus, and the overall honesty of the headline, and away from shit like what just happened in kentucky.

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T Reynolds
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28. "some of these sound like old school gun incidents"
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where shootings happened at school because of beef

the seattle one, the Wiley College, the Wake Forest, the NET hs

i don't know if they should be classified the same as this new type of incident

  

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11. "agreed, i feel bad for children"
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29. "It's messed up"
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I remember after Columbine we started having these "lockdown" drills where the teacher would pull the shades down and put a cover over the window in the door. Then everyone would go and huddle in the corner of the room.

Thinking back on it now I realize how fucked up that is for kids in a school to have to do. Stop learning everyone, time to practice for when someone tries to come and kill us all. Okay, back to the lesson.

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12. "ny times link:"
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/us/kentucky-school-shooting.html

  

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13. "The New Orleans shooting doesn't fit the profile of "school shooting""
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It was a drive-by from an SUV down the street from the school apparently aimed at students, not a dude running up in the cafeteria randomly spraying shots.

A bit misleading.

  

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15. "I mean... if it’s real bullets being aimed at students it counts"
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shut up already, damn

  

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flipnile
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17. "Nah. It's misleading."
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Incident happened off the school's premises. Shooting was not done by a student. No one got shot.

  

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25. "Someone has to be shot for it to be a shooting?"
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I think if students are being shot at relatively close to the school than yes, it’s a school shooting even if no one was hit.

shut up already, damn

  

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16. "So within walking distance from a school aimed at students during school..."
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Hours.
Do we similarly not count the adult man in New Mexico who pretended to be a student, for access to campus, but wasn't able to kill people?

Since we're discussing the apparent grey area of students during school hours being targeted with guns at minimum 10 times since 2018 began.

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18. "I'd argue that there were more than 11 "school shootings" then "
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If we're counting every incident that's near a school or involves a school student on the way to, at, or coming from a school.

Again, it's misleading. At least they can define what they mean by "school shooting" before they start listing hard numbers.

  

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30. "I'd argue that you're being unnecessarily pedantic. "
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22. "Right, ten is so much easier to live with than eleven"
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23. "More like two or three in my eyes"
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Bad, but not quite as bad as 10 or 11

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41. "yes it is"
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what are you talking about

1 is as bad as 20

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42. "What are YOU talking about? How is 1 as bad as 20?"
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If I lose one pinky toe, that is bad. If I lose all 20 of my fingers and toes, that is a worse type of bad.

Losing 1 dollar is not as bad as losing $20.

Losing 1 family member is not as bad as losing 20 family members

I don't know how many more examples I need to get the point across that more of a bad thing is worse than less of a bad thing.

>what are you talking about
>
>1 is as bad as 20

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44. "You don't have to lose a pinky toe"
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you don't have to lose a dollar

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31. "there's only so many I can accept as collateral damage for my freedomz"
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33. "GUN OWNERS ARE THE MOST PERSECUTED PEOPLE IN AMERICA!"
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RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTIANS, WHITE MEN AND CONSERVATIVES!

  

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19. "Shit! This was my high school today, luckily no one was hurt"
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http://6abc.com/phila-school-on-lockdown-after-reports-of-students-with-guns/2983808/

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
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38. "This happened the other day where i played lil league football"
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http://www.wbaltv.com/article/man-seen-holding-air-pistol-in-perry-hall-fight-released-from-jail/15843754


and that's the county

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47. "re: air pistols aka fake ass guns"
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1. you fuck around and get shot holding one of them.

2. people get robbed all the time by people with them fake guns.

3. why don't the manufacturers make them bright green like a super soaker so that it's understood it aint real?

4. do air pistols have a legit purpose? or were they designed for fakery/fuckery?

  

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54. "RE: re: air pistols aka fake ass guns"
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>1. you fuck around and get shot holding one of them.
>

Yep...


>2. people get robbed all the time by people with them fake
>guns.
>

Yep...

>3. why don't the manufacturers make them bright green like a
>super soaker so that it's understood it aint real?
>

I've definitely seen them with the bright orange on the tip of the barrell

>4. do air pistols have a legit purpose? or were they designed
>for fakery/fuckery?
>

prolly for target practice, and/or kids to learn how to shoot/aim...
i have a bunch of stories about the goofy shit i done seen w/em...hell my homeboy's older brother used to terrorize us by hittin us up w/ bb's all the time

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32. "and 80 something police shootings."
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horrific



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43. "RE: There have been 11 school shootings in 2018"
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https://apnews.com/8307e0dc42b747e0944afad411971ffe?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

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45. "BREAKING: Authorities say they're responding to a shooting at a Florida ..."
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BREAKING: Authorities say they're responding to a shooting at a Florida high school; number of wounded unknown.

https://twitter.com/ap/status/963864758112980992

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46. "A little more info (link)"
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/14/us/florida-high-school-shooting/index.html

  

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48. "White House has already issued “thoughts and prayers”"
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Wash, rinse, repeat.

See ya next time. I’m sure it won’t be long. Nothing changes.

  

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65. "“thoughts and prayers” so probably white?"
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https://www.instagram.com/sbmission365/

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

  

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49. "what can be done"
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tired of this

  

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50. "Starters: declare gun violence a health epidemic (which it is)"
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Allow the CDC to then fully research the issue
Fund the solutions.

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51. "Too soon to talk about gun control/research"
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Your thoughts and prayers at this time should be plenty.

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73. "fukk that....."
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thoughts and prayers while mfers are getting dough from the NRA to make it easier for lunatics to buy AR-15s...

naw..

no better time than now to talk shit about this

  

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75. "woosh"
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mista k5
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52. "how do we make that happen"
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57. "Time travel to 1978, Kill Reagan, Gringrich, and Norquist"
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59. "well that dude from 2030 is here"
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let me see if i can find a way to contact him

  

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56. "The Secret Service did research these shootings after Columbine...."
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One of the consistent themes are young white people with access to weapons and training. It looks quite bad targeting the anglo saxon community but this needs to happen.

  

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58. "How big is their work force and budget?"
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I mean if this president can blow their budget in less than a year, I'm pretty sure they're too taxed to handle a national epidemic. Treat this like a flu.

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105. "This was done in the 90s.... links"
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>I mean if this president can blow their budget in less than a
>year, I'm pretty sure they're too taxed to handle a national
>epidemic. Treat this like a flu.

https://www2.ed.gov/admins/lead/safety/preventingattacksreport.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre#Secret_Service_report_on_school_shootings

  

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64. "it's not even just gun control"
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if they *only* took domestic violence more seriously it would basically end mass shootings.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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53. "nothing. too far gone."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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55. "yup"
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60. "agreed"
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63. "make it very difficult to own the guns that do this"
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strict limits on ammunition purchases

regular at-home checks, at the gun owner's expense.

there's no reason why people should have fucking arsenals

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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81. "couldn't 2 hand guns have the same impact? "
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I'm no gun expert but it seems like anyone with 2 guns and bad intentions can kill a lot of folks at a school or concert.

shut up already, damn

  

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84. "No. Between reload time, weight, accuracy, trigger pressure"
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And a number of other logistical things, limiting the capabilities of guns is a good step to minimize the potential breadth of targeted killings.

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123. "this style of rifle is made for a reason"
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people seem weirdly obsessed with making it seem like you could use any gun.

yes, you could do damage with a shotgun or a pistol too, or a different style of rifle with a modification, or a pistol in a special frame, etc. -- none of em are as good for this.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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115. "it would cut the casualties in half "
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but i agree with the overall sentiment that crazies gonna crazies and handguns aren't all that difficult to modify

black markets be white as fuck too

i'm for gun control but im not terribly convinced it has a huge impact...shit..the lives it saves in incidents might be offset by higher frequency of angry gun lovers

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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122. "no. that's why no one does that."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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66. "Nothing. The US is ingrained in gun culture"
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250+ years of this.

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61. "reading at least 16 dead...goodness, wtf"
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Keep one or two goons, not eleven deep...quiet killers like Kawhi Leonard, they don't ever speak - Conway

  

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62. "so sad"
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67. "17 was the last number I heard"
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and there is video.

shut up already, damn

  

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68. "Valentine's Day Massacre Not sure if Amerikkka can shed the blood its ha..."
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Valentine's Day Massacre
Not sure if Amerikkka can shed the blood on its hands.

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*****
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5P6zdlPJ34&feature=related
^^^ever walked the streets of...

  

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70. "just. damn. nm"
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peace & blessings,

x.

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71. "One of the tactics of colonist in the Americas"
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was targeting women and children.

Andrew Jackson yes the former president was notorious for this tactic and then claimed it as a military victory.

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72. "Rick Scott has got to be the poster boy for "
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an NRA bought and paid for politicians...literally doing all he can to make it as easy as possible for even crazy people to buy AR-15 type weapons in Florida....

and he's literally talking jibberish tonight

  

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74. "Crazy yesterday's shooting doesn't even get it's own post. "
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so common place.


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76. "right"
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"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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77. "It won't even be mentioned in a week or more. "
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I unfortunately plan on just continuously updating this one.

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78. "I kinda figured it didn't BECAUSE this post exists"
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80. "bruh.. ain't shit ti really post or discuss since it happens so often"
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shut up already, damn

  

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83. "And keeping it in one post helps connect the narrative. "
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103. "This one was major though"
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"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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79. "does trumps right eye work?"
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82. "in a chat group with a lot of vets"
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two of them feel the answer is to place 3 armed vets at all schools.

i feel that is something that is being spread around in whatever their "okp" is.

i've seen this argument a lot in comments, arm the teachers blah blah. i definitely don't feel that's the answer. it seems like we only have extremes being offered. take away all guns or arm everyone.

would looking at each case that has happened determining what would had prevented it with the 20/20 vision be of any use?

  

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85. "There were cops with guns at that school"
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Additionally is militarizing a school conducive to learning? Because that's what school is there for.
If we're just going to move straight to indoctrination we might as well move to a boarding school model on military bases. Let's at least pretend school is for learning.

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88. "Because armed vets are to be trusted in a non stop stressful environment..."
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With hundreds of loud and continuously moving parts where a majority of that parts are driven by hormones and developing brains.
My highschool had around 3000 students. I as an adult wouldn't want to be anywhere near that on one day, let alone as a job.

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89. "This is insane"
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Instead of less guns, lets just fill up schools with people that have more guns. That will fix it. We're talking about a fucking school. Do these people even hear themselves?

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93. "pretty much"
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im tempted to just leave the chat but if we just run away from people that think differently how will we be able to work together.

not up for an argument so i just let them say their piece. i know one of them is a full blown trump supporter.

  

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91. "sounds like some aliens vs predators shit."
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a lot of shootings have been done by vets.

we just gonna let them go head up against each other? lol.

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92. "we about to look like Israel or Afghanistan"
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shut up already, damn

  

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95. "crazy how there have been 18 school shootings in the rest of the world"
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over the last 20 yrs.

but 18 school shootings in the united states this year alone (and we are still in february).

https://twitter.com/greenfield64/status/963908153325772800

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100. "I love how they think by arming teachers, they'll turn into John McClane"
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when shit pops off. Chances are they'll go into survival mode and choke like most people.

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102. "We have to buy our own supplies and copies"
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School board isnt about to magically find more money to pay three vets at every school in their district in America. We barely get paid enough to teach as it is.

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104. "I'm a vet and that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard."
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"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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86. "Man I can't take these people copping pleas yet again"
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Talking about the AR15 isn't an assault weapon and farmers use it to protect their livestock.

Reasonable people: Maybe we should do something about these guns people keep using to shoot our kids
Republicans: BUT HOW WILL WE PROTECT OUR LIVESTOCK

Fucking coward pussies, all of them.

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87. "BREAKING: Leader of white nationalist group has confirmed "
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suspect in Florida school shooting was member of his organization.


But immigrants.

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90. "RE: BREAKING: Leader of white nationalist group has confirmed "
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Link https://www.adl.org/blog/florida-white-supremacist-group-admits-ties-to-alleged-parkland-school-shooter-nikolas-cruz

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94. "damn."
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It is in your self-interest to find a way to be very tender.
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96. "a lot of comments were focused on the cruz last name"
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wonder what those people think now, doesn't matter enough to check

i think his race is the least of concern. an affiliation with a group like this though is important.

  

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98. "Infowars were pushing the 'lefty-democrat' angle hard..."
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https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/964187511017869316

Of course, there will still be a number of knuckle-dragging shit heads who will believe that forever.

  

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99. "red herring. that dude's family gave him all the training he needed"
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101. "you beautiful bastard. don't ever change."
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https://www.instagram.com/sbmission365/

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97. "A quick summary of Florida's gun laws (CNN swipe)"
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/us/florida-gun-laws-trnd/index.html

(CNN)The shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, which killed 17 people, has put the focus on Florida's gun laws. For instance, the state doesn't require a permit or a license for someone to own a gun.

Here are some facts about the gun laws in the Sunshine State, from the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence and the National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action:

*The right to bear arms is found in the first article of Florida's constitution: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed..."

*You don't need a permit or license to buy a gun, nor do you have to register a firearm.

*You don't need a permit to conceal carry a rifle or shotgun, although you do need it to conceal carry a handgun.

*The state Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services must issue a concealed weapons license to an applicant as long as the person meets a certain set of requirements, including being a US citizen, being the age of 21 or older, not having a felony conviction and demonstrates competence with a firearm.

*You can buy as many guns as you want at one time, because Florida doesn't regulate that either.

*Gun sellers don't have to get a state license to sell firearms.
The state does require a three-day waiting period before you can buy a gun.

*And Florida does not regulate assault weapons, .50-caliber rifles and large capacity ammunition magazines.

The Giffords Law Center, a gun-control advocacy group that tracks firearms legislation, gave Florida an "F" grade for its gun laws in 2016. The law center says Florida has 12 gun deaths per 100,000, the 25th-highest rate in the nation.

Florida also has the "stand your ground" law, which the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action describes as a person having no "duty to retreat" if they're attacked in a place where they have a legal right to be.

"Instead, you may stand your ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or others," the institute says.

  

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106. "Florida is a place a will never visit voluntarily "
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Lots of this country is plain insane.

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107. "cops called to his house 39 times in 7 years"
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shut up already, damn

  

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108. "seems the narrative on the right for this one is to blame the FBI"
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which is an ongoing thing with them right now. they're gonna legit use these murdered kids to help them try to discredit the Mueller investigation

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109. "Yup. It’s disgusting. "
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Makes me wonder if at some MK Ultra shit.

The timing seems suspect

shut up already, damn

  

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110. "yeah even gov rick scott was calling for the resignation of chris wray."
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these muthafuckas forever be on some 'teamwork make the dream work' shit. they never miss a beat.

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111. "Oh, #45 went there,earlier, on Twitter..."
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/965075589274177536


Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!



Unbelievable.

  

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112. "This is Anthony Borges, 15. He used his body to hold a classroom door sh..."
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This is Anthony Borges, 15. He used his body to hold a classroom door shut, protecting 20 other students inside as the gunman fired through the door, hitting him five times. Let's pray for his speedy recovery.

https://twitter.com/usblm/status/965383092734177280

  

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113. "Jackson Township, Ohio: Student shoots self on campus"
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http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/02/jackson_local_schools_on_lockd.html..

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114. "smh"
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Coolin...

  

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116. "404"
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page not found

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117. "Just take the two dots off at the end."
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118. "Oh thanks"
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didn't notice that.

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119. "Yoo, who are these ppl coming at the victims on Twitter?"
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These some awful people.

https://twitter.com/ImChrisCasey/status/966098418983677952


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120. "RE: Yoo, who are these ppl coming at the victims on Twitter?"
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http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/374774-florida-lawmakers-aide-fired-after-claiming-shooting-survivors-actors

https://thinkprogress.org/the-new-smear-campaign-against-students-who-survived-the-parkland-massacre-b71c1e1d722c/

  

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121. "thinking the other day, wow these dynamic, articulate kids gave me hope"
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then you see this shit.

apparently president cheeto 'liked' a couple of their posts

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124. "Some supremacist blogs shouldn’t take away your hope"
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>then you see this shit.
>
>apparently president cheeto 'liked' a couple of their posts

  

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125. "CMU student kills parents on campus. "
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https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/02/590239044/central-michigan-university-on-lockdown-after-shooting-at-dorm-kills-2

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127. "Wow...wasn't expecting that (he Black)"
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126. "It’s a sick country indeed"
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shut up already, damn

  

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128. "Alabana hs today"
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-alabama-school-shooting-20180307-story.html

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129. " Seaside High teacher accidentally fires gun in class, students injured"
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http://www.ksbw.com/article/seaside-high-teacher-accidentally-fires-gun-in-class/19426017


SEASIDE, Calif. —
A teacher who also serves as a reserve police officer accidentally fired a gun inside a Seaside High School classroom Tuesday, police said, and three students were injured.

Dennis Alexander was teaching a course about gun safety for his Administration of Justice class when his gun went off at 1:20 p.m.


Alexander was pointing his gun at the ceiling when it fired. Pieces of the ceiling fell to the ground.

A news release from the Seaside Police Department said no one suffered "serious injuries." One 17-year-old boy suffered moderate injuries when fragments from the bullet ricocheted off the ceiling and lodged into his neck, the student's father, Fermin Gonzales, told KSBW.

The teacher had just told the class that he wanted to make sure his gun wasn't loaded, when the gun fired, according to Gonzales.

"It's the craziest thing. It could have been very bad," Gonzales said.

The teacher was about to use the gun for a demonstration about how to disarm someone, according to Gonzales.


Bullet fragments removed from student’s neck
Everyone in the classroom was stunned, and the teacher, who is a reserve officer for the Sand City Police Department, apologized.

But no one at the school checked to make sure that all of the students were uninjured, Gonzales said. The school day resumed as normal, and Seaside Police Department officers launched an investigation.

The 17-year-old boy's parents were shocked when he returned home with blood on his shirt and bullet fragments in his neck. The student's parents rushed him to a hospital for X-rays.

"He's shaken up, but he's going to be OK," Gonzales told KSBW. "I'm just pretty upset that no one told us anything and we had to call the police ourselves to report it."

Alexander was placed on administrative leave from his teaching position at Seaside High School, and he was also placed on administrative leave at the Sand City Police Department.


Seaside High School
Sand City Police Chief Brian Ferrante told KSBW, "I have concerns about why he was displaying a loaded firearm in a classroom. We will be looking into that."

Ferrante said Alexander has been a reserve Sand City police officer for the past 11 years, and described his track record as "positive and professional." The 2013 Reserve Officer of the Year is also a Seaside City Council member and Red Cross volunteer. KSBW interviewed Alexander in 2015 while he was volunteering for the Red Cross to help victims of the Tassajara Fire.

Teachers are not legally allowed to have firearms in California classrooms, even if they have a concealed carry permit.

Whether to arm teachers with guns on campus to make American schools safer has been a fiery question politically over the past few weeks, following a mass shooting at a Florida high school.

Thousands of students are planning to walk out of their classrooms Wednesday to raise awareness about gun violence and school safety.

One KSBW Facebook fan remarked about the Seaside incident, "This is clear example why teachers shouldn't have a gun. Accidents happen, even to people with experience."

Another Facebook fan quipped, "Oh great.. .Ya let’s give ALL the teachers guns. What could possibly go wrong?"

Students who take Alexander's Administration of Justice class are interested in public safety and becoming a police officer.

"I think a lot of questions on parents' minds are, why a teacher would be pointing a loaded firearm at the ceiling in front of students," Monterey Peninsula Unified School District Superintendent PK Diffenbaugh said. "Clearly in this incident protocols were not followed."

The Superintendent's Office sent a letter to parents reading: "We want to make you aware of an accident that occurred in the Administration of Justice class today at Seaside High School. As some of you may know, the teacher is a reserve police officer. Today, during class, the teacher accidentally discharged his firearm during a lesson while it was pointed at the ceiling. Debris from the ceiling then fell. Upon learning of the incident, our Human Resources department, school site administration and the Seaside Police Department immediately began investigating the incident, including interviewing students in the class. We will also have counseling services available for students. Due to the nature of this personnel incident, we are unable to share any other details. The teacher has been placed on administrative leave for the duration of the on-going investigation. The safety of your student is always our top priority, and we will continue to remain vigilant in our efforts to keep them safe while they are under our care."

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130. "Lawd"
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shut up already, damn

  

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131. "Isn't this the 2nd incident like this since Trump proposed arming teache..."
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A gun safety demonstration in a school gone wrong?

I feel like they are just trolling him at this point lol

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132. "Yes it is"
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I must have missed this one.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/School-Resource-Officer-Accidentally-Fires-Weapon-Inside-School-476676103.html

A school resource officer accidentally fired his gun inside a middle school in Alexandria, Virginia, during school hours on Tuesday, police say. No one was hurt.

The officer was inside his office at George Washington Middle School in the Del Ray neighborhood when he accidentally discharged his service weapon about 9:10 a.m., according to Alexandria police.

The shot was fired as the officer, a five-year veteran of the Alexandria Police Department, was sitting down in his office, police said. A department representative declined to say whether the officer had taken his gun out of his holster.

"I just think it was an accident that happened, and we're going to investigate it and find out, and we're going to move forward," Capt. D.C. Hayes said.


The officer checked the area for any potential injuries and found that everyone in the 1,500-student school was OK.

He notified his supervisor and school staff, and classes continued as normal, police said.

It wasn't immediately clear if any students or teachers were nearby.


The incident occured amid a highly charged national conversation about arming teachers.

The head of the school system said she doesn't think arming teachers is appropriate.

"We had this happen with someone who's a highly trained officer. I think that speaks for itself," interim superintendent Lois Berlin said.

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Several parents who spoke with News4 agreed.

"I'm happy he wasn't injured and nobody else was injured, but I think it's a great reason to say we don't need more guns in schools," one parent said.

"We're talking about arming teachers, and even the security personnel that are trained can't seem to make it work," another parent said.

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Also on Tuesday, a teacher who serves as a reserve police officer accidentally fired a gun in a California classroom as he taught a class about gun safety. A 17-year-old boy was injured by bullet fragments, his father said.

Police are updating the incident in Virginia. The officer has been placed on routine administrative leave.

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133. "RE: Seaside High teacher accidentally fires gun in class, students inju..."
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I completed a license-to-carry course in TX about two years ago. Guns were not even present during the classroom portion - and this was a course that was requisite for ACTUALLY CARRYING A GUN.

There was/is no reason for a gun to be handled/discharged in a classroom, ever.

  

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134. "Research shows school shootings are not a growing epidemic (swipe)"
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It just seems like a growing trend due to our access to information (24 hr coverage, cell phone videos, etc.)

So wanting to turn schools into fortresses now (when there was no interest in the past) is misguided.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/15/593831564/the-disconnect-between-perceived-danger-in-u-s-schools-and-reality

Despite Heightened Fear Of School Shootings, It's Not A Growing Epidemic

The Parkland shooting last month has energized student activists, who are angry and frustrated over gun violence. But it's also contributed to the impression that school shootings are a growing epidemic in America.

In truth, they're not.

"Schools are safer today than they had been in previous decades," says James Alan Fox, a professor of criminology at Northeastern University who has studied the phenomenon of mass murder since the 1980s.

Fox and doctoral student Emma Fridel crunched the numbers, and the results should come as a relief to parents.

First, while multiple-victim shootings in general are on the rise, that's not the case in schools. There's an average of about one a year — in a country with more than 100,000 schools.

"There were more back in the '90s than in recent years," says Fox. "For example, in one school year — 1997-98 — there were four multiple-victim shootings in schools."

Second, the overall number of gunshot victims at schools is also down. According to Fox's numbers, back in the 1992-93 school year, about 0.55 students per million were shot and killed; in 2014-15, that rate was closer to 0.15 per million.

"The difference is the impression, the perception that people have," Fox says — and he traces that to cable news and social media. "Today we have cell phone recordings of gunfire that play over and over and over again. So it's that the impression is very different. That's why people think things are a lot worse now, but the statistics say otherwise."

Other experts agree. Garen Wintemute is an emergency room physician who leads a prominent gun violence research program at the University of California, Davis. He says school shootings, specifically, are not epidemic.

"Schools are just about the safest place in the world for kids to be," Wintemute says. "Although each one of them is horrific and rivets the entire nation for a period of time, mass shootings at schools are really very uncommon, and they are not increasing in frequency. What's changed is how aware we are of them."

But Wintemute believes mass shootings — whether in schools or elsewhere — are increasing social pressure to address the far more common threat of small-scale shootings, which mostly happen in private.

"For school-age kids, the kind of shooting we most need to worry about is the kind of shooting that occurs off the school grounds," Wintemute says. "The best way to prevent school shootings is to prevent shootings in general."

He endorses broader gun safety measures, such as "red flag" laws, which give authorities the ability to remove firearms temporarily from people deemed to be threatening violence to themselves or others.

Wintemute and Fox say that by focusing so narrowly on school shootings, we run the risk of turning schools into fortresses. Fox says, given the statistics, it's misguided to put kids through metal detectors and active shooter drills, and he doesn't like the new calls for armed teachers.

"Most adults wouldn't want their workplaces to look like what some of the schools are looking like, now," Fox says.

But the perception of danger puts school administrators in a difficult position.

Marysville Pilchuck High School, about an hour north of Seattle, has experienced the tragedy of a shooting, and the statistical rarity is no comfort.

On Oct. 24, 2014, a freshman shot five other students in the cafeteria, killing four, before killing himself. Ever since, administrators have struggled to restore the students' sense of safety.

"Probably, every day it pops into your head at one time or another," says acting district superintendent Jason Thompson. "You think, 'Okay, we've had our shooting,' right? It's human to think that way. But I think a lot of times for me, it's like, 'This could happen again.'"

For the last three years, the district has wrestled with how to make schools safer, without going overboard. Local voters defeated a bond levy which would have remodeled the open-style campus into a more secure, single-entrance configuration. So the school remains very open. There's a new security camera, a security guard near the entrance, and visitors are told to wear a badge on campus, but there are no new fences or metal detectors.

Greg Dennis, who runs security for the district, says it's hard to reach consensus on what precautions to take.

"From a parent's perspective, they say, 'Holy cow, why aren't we doing this? Why aren't we building prisons, why aren't we building moats?'" Dennis says. "And the next person says, 'We can't do that! This is public property, you have to make it accessible, how do we use the playgrounds on the weekend?'"

Without the money to rebuild the school, administrators have opted to emphasize training and preparedness. They try to think tactically — for instance, since the shooting in Parkland, they've been reconsidering how to conduct fire drills, to make kids less of a target to potential attackers as they leave their classes.

But Marysville staffers also try to keep the risk in perspective. Dennis says he tries to learn security lessons from other shootings, but he doesn't want to obsess about them.

Madysen Pruss, who's part of a federally-funded counseling program at the school, says that's also her message to students when another shooting is in the news.

"We talk about how it's publicized through social media," Pruss says. "So it makes the threat feel greater than it is."

This year's seniors were freshmen when the shooting happened, so this is the last class that still has memories of the incident. Senior Olivya Cerdinio is one of a group of students who organized the school's observance of the 1-month milestone since the shooting in Parkland.

"I'm like kind of done being sad about it, and I'm just really mad about it, and I want to make a change," she says.

But it's shootings in general that she's mad about — not school shootings in particular.

"It's not dangerous because of how schools are," Cerdinio says, "but because a shooting can happen anywhere. It's more about gun availability."

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135. "According to their own data the shootings are trending back up "
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There was a dramatic drop off according to their own data in 1993
In 1994 the assault weapon ban was enacted (correlation implied by myself without looking at data)
Ban was lifted in 2004
According to their own data there was a dramatic spike again (correlation implied by myself without research)
Things started to decline again, but have been trending up since 2011 according to their data.
That time period includes sandy hook, that data does not include all of the shootings this year.

Furthermore when it comes to murders at school by guns, why should it only be of concern when it's an epidemic?

The article writer implies that more kids die from drowning and bike accidents
Are we not making safer biking areas, are cpr classes not offered, are dangerous swimming areas not marked?

I hate people writing about data that they don't understand. Or writing about stats when it comes to mortality. Cultural conversations drive actions and reactions. Stats don't drive that convo. And right now our culture is screaming out enough.

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136. "I think the stats are important when it comes time to make a decision"
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>Furthermore when it comes to murders at school by guns, why
>should it only be of concern when it's an epidemic?
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People being murdered should always be a concern. But our reaction to it should be reasonable.

If it is framed as a growing problem and a regular occurrence (like the original post and most of the updates), the reaction is going to be different than if it is a relatively rare event.

The reaction to recent shootings is to "harden" schools. Metal detectors, armed guards/teachers, bullet proof shelters, active shooter drills, etc.

If these types of shootings are relatively rare events, is the cost (financial as well as social) justified?
A school is no more dangerous for a kid than a local park, but there are no calls for hardening our parks.


If you poll people and ask whether crime is on the rise in America, a large majority will say yes. They will say it is much more dangerous than in the 80s and 90s.
So should we implement policies according to people's perceptions or according to what is really happening?

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138. "u ignored all his points JUST to restate yours lol"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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139. "His points were statistical. I don't have the data"
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So yes, I responded to the part that I could/wanted to respond to
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Furthermore when it comes to murders at school by guns, why should it only be of concern when it's an epidemic?
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And ignored the part making claims I didn't agree with.

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The article writer implies that more kids die from drowning and bike accidents
Are we not making safer biking areas, are cpr classes not offered, are dangerous swimming areas not marked?
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140. "mainly bc you are focused on the hardening of schools"
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which pretty much everyone thinks is stupid that are as reasonable as you're trying to be

but he's using the same data but adding context...stats mean nothing without context

so why ignore context? disagree with context with reason just like you expect for people to make the conclusions about "hardening" schools

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141. "I'm focused on hardening schools bc that's what the article is focused o..."
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>which pretty much everyone thinks is stupid that are as
>reasonable as you're trying to be
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I'll go a step further and say any response (school "hardening", gun control, etc) based on individual incidents like Parkland are not the correct path.
I want gun control measures, but it has nothing to do with the recent school shootings I've seen on the news.

Actions made in reaction to tramuatic events leads to poorly thought out policy.


>but he's using the same data but adding context...stats mean
>nothing without context
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What context was added? He even recognizes the limits by saying "correlation implied by myself without looking at data".


>so why ignore context? disagree with context with reason just
>like you expect for people to make the conclusions about
>"hardening" schools

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137. "One in MD today"
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142. "has the movement lost steam?"
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are we still expecting anything to get passed?

  

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143. "101 mass shootings in 2018. "
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http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

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144. "More killed in school than combat in 2018"
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https://wapo.st/2wSk1Cn

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145. "gotdamn.. the recent jump makes it hard not to blame Trump "
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and this hate movement

shut up already, damn

  

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146. "naww, 100% blame Trump"
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He's president so he's gotta own it.

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147. "...and on and on."
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/25/us/indiana-school-shots-fired/index.html

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