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Boogie Stimuli
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"Being Black in America a disability, law professor argues (swipe)"


          

This seems like a no-brainer imo...
interested to know what yall think.

Before we get to the article, let me provide an important hot take to ward off ignorant comments from those who won't even read the article:
The Americans with Disabilities Act defines “disability” as “a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities of such individual.”

“Blackness, of course, is not, by itself, an impairment,” Paul-Emile writes.

“However, disability law recognizes that many traits understood as disabling do not necessarily arise from a medical condition, but are instead simply traits that create disadvantage when combined with an inhospitable social or physical environment,” Paul-Emile stated.



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http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/41109/
Being black in America is a ‘disability,’ black law professor argues
KYLE PERISIC - UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA •JANUARY 19, 2018

A black law professor argues that African Americans should embrace the notion that being black in America is a disability as a new legal strategy toward enacting protections for the black community against unconscious bias, stereotyping and structural inequality.

Kimani Paul-Emile, an associate professor of law at Fordham University and associate director of its law school’s Center on Race, Law & Justice, argues that while Africans Americans might initially spurn the “blackness as disability” label, it can actually be a wise courtroom plan.

Paul-Emile argues that being disabled does not have the same extreme negative connotation as it did in the past, and what’s more, disability law does not force plaintiffs to show that the harm they’ve suffered was intentional, that “discriminatory effect is almost always enough.”

“Rather than focusing on malicious intent, disability law accepts the impact of even neutral actions, policies, and programs, directly confronting the ways in which social structures, institutions, and norms can ‘substantially limit’ a person’s ability to perform ‘a major life activity.’ It thus requires that even discrimination based on unacknowledged bias be addressed,” Paul-Emile wrote in her article, a forthcoming piece in Georgetown Law Review excerpted by Fordham Law News.

With that, black people can claim “blackness as disability” as a remedial legal effort, harnessing this new paradigm to use the courts to require some sort of structural reforms that benefit the black community against what Paul-Emile contends is the limited opportunity African Americans face today due to unconscious bias, stereotyping and structural inequality.

The College Fix reached out to Paul-Emile for comment several times via email to ask her whether Hispanics or other minorities could also be labeled disabled, and what her opinion would be if a white person made the claim that black people are disabled. She did not respond.

“Blackness in the United States has an independent disabling effect distinct from the effects of socioeconomic status,” the law professor wrote.

Paul-Emile listed many reasons for black peoples’ perceived disabilities, including “facing increased likelihood, relative to Whites, of living in poverty, attending failing schools, experiencing discrimination in housing, being denied a job interview, being stopped by the police, being killed during a routine police encounter, receiving inferior medical care, living in substandard conditions and in dangerous and/or polluted environments, being un- or underemployed, receiving longer prison sentences, and having a lower life expectancy.”

Paul-Emile argues that understanding “Blackness as disabling … brings to the fore a surprising new approach to addressing discrimination and systemic inequality that has been hiding in plain sight: disability law.”

The Americans with Disabilities Act defines “disability” as “a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities of such individual.”

“Blackness, of course, is not, by itself, an impairment,” Paul-Emile writes.

“However, disability law recognizes that many traits understood as disabling do not necessarily arise from a medical condition, but are instead simply traits that create disadvantage when combined with an inhospitable social or physical environment,” Paul-Emile stated.

“… To recognize Blackness as a disability therefore requires us to acknowledge the ways in which racial hierarchies and White privilege persist and are embedded within these laws, policies, and practices such that they reify the very inequities they seek to eliminate.”

Paul-Emile has previously published pieces, including one in the New England Journal of Medicine titled “Dealing with Racist Patients,” which was viewed over 125,000 times, according to Fordham’s news page.

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you know that belief some white folks have dat blacks is lower in
Jan 23rd 2018
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lol. right...
Jan 23rd 2018
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Writing like that won't help it either.
Jan 23rd 2018
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The first response is "What will the white folks think?"
Jan 23rd 2018
11
i didn't read it that way
Jan 23rd 2018
12
      Why not
Jan 23rd 2018
13
           i read it as how bad will this be used against Black people, moreso
Jan 23rd 2018
14
                Ah
Jan 23rd 2018
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                The idea that Whites will punish us for this is explicitly "Yes Massa"
Jan 23rd 2018
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                     the OP kinda reads like Black folk are on the short bus
Jan 23rd 2018
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                          It doesn't at all.
Jan 23rd 2018
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                          ^^ding muhfuckin ding. aint nobody scared of fuckin white folks
Jan 23rd 2018
30
                               You're trying to disprove a point no one is making.
Jan 24th 2018
34
                                    i cosigned legs "point" cuz he da only one that got where i was comin
Jan 24th 2018
39
                                         Most of us got it. We just don't think it was a good point.
Jan 24th 2018
42
                                              NIGGA I DONT GIVE A FUK. I DONT ROCK WIT LABELIN BLACKS DISABLED.
Jan 24th 2018
44
                                                   Shout.... shout... let it all out. Theeeese are the things I can doooo ...
Jan 24th 2018
48
                                                   Lmao
Jan 24th 2018
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                                                   I'm with you on this one.
Jan 24th 2018
49
"a trait that creates disadvantage when combined with ...
Jan 23rd 2018
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      yeah, we disadvantaged. but it aint cuz shits wrong wit US
Jan 24th 2018
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           The argument isn't that there's anything wrong with us.
Jan 24th 2018
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           dawg. first words I said was yea we disadvantaged. foh lol
Jan 24th 2018
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                Next words you said were "but it aint cuz shits wrong wit US" foh 2 u 2 ...
Jan 24th 2018
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                     man, go peddle your black is a disability bullshit to somebody else
Jan 24th 2018
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                          Lol @ peddle... no need for that. You already agree.
Jan 24th 2018
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           .
Jan 24th 2018
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Le sigh no need to rephrase the clearly
Jan 23rd 2018
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YUUUUUUUUUP
Jan 23rd 2018
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Bingo
Jan 24th 2018
36
this reinforces my belief that 98.7% of lawyers are idiots....
Jan 23rd 2018
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ehh, I'm in the 99% of lawyers are fucking lying ass liars
Jan 23rd 2018
5
Can you explain this, or is it the doublenegative disagreement from the
Jan 23rd 2018
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I don't like the way this reads..
Jan 23rd 2018
4
"a trait that creates disadvantage when combined with ...
Jan 23rd 2018
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yeah i reject this on GP.
Jan 23rd 2018
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reparations strategy. Interesting approach.
Jan 23rd 2018
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Reparation is exactly what I thought when I read it.
Jan 23rd 2018
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      Maybe if she tied this directly to slavery in America people
Jan 23rd 2018
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      It might, but we'd still get reply one if he's worried about what white
Jan 23rd 2018
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           yeah, it's America. No one is using the legal definition
Jan 23rd 2018
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      yeah, it's pretty obvious to me.
Jan 23rd 2018
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      RE: yeah, it's pretty obvious to me.
Jan 23rd 2018
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      but you realize this is also "wondering what the white man will think"
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           *sigh*
Jan 24th 2018
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So much for MLK's message to judge a person by his/her character.
Jan 23rd 2018
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i can't tell if this is satire.
Jan 23rd 2018
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no it's not.
Jan 23rd 2018
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He gotta be white.
Jan 24th 2018
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Your character is trash.
Jan 24th 2018
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I get a treat the symptom not the virus kind of vibe from the article
Jan 24th 2018
35
And frankly, that's a wrong interpretation.
Jan 24th 2018
45
      What was your position on black folks married to whites again?
Jan 24th 2018
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           My position? Outside such an arrangement. Why is this important?
Jan 24th 2018
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                wasn't sure if you were black folks with white spouses are suspect
Jan 24th 2018
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Let's start from the top. Can someone give me examples of this?
Jan 24th 2018
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culturally disabled l agree
Jan 24th 2018
51

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1. "you know that belief some white folks have dat blacks is lower in"
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intelligence?


claimin blackness is a disability aint bout to help that lol


them mfuckas finna flip dis shit on us

watch

  

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6. "lol. right..."
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8. "Writing like that won't help it either."
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11. "The first response is "What will the white folks think?""
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That's a direct byproduct of slavery.

You may not like the way it sounds, but it appears that she's fighting on behalf of people like YOU.

  

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KiloMcG
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12. "i didn't read it that way"
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i see what you're saying, i just didn't read his response that way.

  

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13. "Why not"
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The title starts off with "white folks"

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14. "i read it as how bad will this be used against Black people, moreso"
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than what will they think.

but i didn't write it, so maybe he can clarify what he was saying. like i said, i get the argument made against the reply in question and see that it could be that, i just didn't initially think that's where he was coming from.

  

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16. "Ah"
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n/m

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20. "The idea that Whites will punish us for this is explicitly "Yes Massa""
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>than what will they think.
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>but i didn't write it, so maybe he can clarify what he was
>saying. like i said, i get the argument made against the
>reply in question and see that it could be that, i just didn't
>initially think that's where he was coming from.

Yes his statement is more nuanced than that, but it's still clear as day.

  

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24. "the OP kinda reads like Black folk are on the short bus"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Boogie Stimuli
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25. "It doesn't at all."
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30. "^^ding muhfuckin ding. aint nobody scared of fuckin white folks"
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my point was


its a whole area of research where muhfuckas tryna say they prove blacks are dumber than whites, like genetically

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence


not to mention shit like violence and criminality bein in our genes

https://www.tremr.com/Duck-Rabbit/african-americans-possess-violence-gene-researchers-find


so why da FUK should we cosign that shit and call ourselves disabled?


We disadvantaged cuz of RACISM. period. I aint wit waterin that shit down by callin it somethin else

  

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34. "You're trying to disprove a point no one is making."
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>my point was
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>its a whole area of research where muhfuckas tryna say they
>prove blacks are dumber than whites, like genetically
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>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
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>not to mention shit like violence and criminality bein in our
>genes
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>https://www.tremr.com/Duck-Rabbit/african-americans-possess-violence-gene-researchers-find



That history actually makes Paul-Emile's point
MORE valid... not less. It's like you're arguing
against yourself and don't realize it lol


>so why da FUK should we cosign that shit and call ourselves
>disabled?



The argument doesn't cosign any of that.
You're having an emotional reaction to the word
"disabled" rather than comprehending how the law
recognizes the word:
"... disability law recognizes that many traits understood as disabling do not necessarily arise from a medical condition, but are instead simply traits that create disadvantage when combined with an inhospitable social or physical environment”"


>We disadvantaged cuz of RACISM. period.


So you agree with exactly what she's saying, but
you're arguing against it because... well just because.






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39. "i cosigned legs "point" cuz he da only one that got where i was comin"
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from right


you just be talkin just to talk sometime my nig


i blame our disadvantages on racism. period.

on racist ass people

that built racist ass systems

THEM THE MUHFUCKAS THAT AINT ALRIGHT

aint more shit to it.



  

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42. "Most of us got it. We just don't think it was a good point."
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>you just be talkin just to talk sometime my nig


Well that's quite the projection, b/c you're
framing the following as a disagreement with
Paul-Emile's argument when it's not. Do you
realize that yet?



>i blame our disadvantages on racism. period.


So does she. That's precisely the argument
SHE'S making.


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44. "NIGGA I DONT GIVE A FUK. I DONT ROCK WIT LABELIN BLACKS DISABLED."
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END OF STORY.

Gatdamn

Leave me muhfuckin be

  

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48. "Shout.... shout... let it all out. Theeeese are the things I can doooo ..."
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Cmonnnnnn


>Leave me muhfuckin be
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Don't jump, bro.


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55. "Lmao"
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Damn

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49. "I'm with you on this one. "
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Is this label FUBU? For us by us just so we can feel better about where we are in America?

Lets be honest, this shit is so we can present it white folks as an argument for reparations or some type of assistance or pity.

I'm not with that shit. I can't give them that type of power over my self of steam b.



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15. ""a trait that creates disadvantage when combined with ..."
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an inhospitable social or physical environment"

Does that or does it not describe Blackness in America?

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32. "yeah, we disadvantaged. but it aint cuz shits wrong wit US"
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these muhfuckas been tryna put dunce caps on us for centuries yo

i aint pressed to rock no matchin jersey


maybe THEY the ones who disabled dawg!

Racist mentality damn near a mental illness in this bitch

get them muhfuckas some antipsychotics

shit


screen muhfuckas for racism before they

own a gun
get a job
run for office

  

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33. "The argument isn't that there's anything wrong with us."
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The argument is that Blackness is a disadvantage
in this social system often referred to as white supremacy.

Would you disagree?

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37. "dawg. first words I said was yea we disadvantaged. foh lol"
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41. "Next words you said were "but it aint cuz shits wrong wit US" foh 2 u 2 ..."
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because her argument does not say there's anything
wrong with us. You're smarter than this.

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43. "man, go peddle your black is a disability bullshit to somebody else"
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i aint wit it

you want me to cosign so bad

like, aint nuthin you can say to get me to agree

including taking shots at my intelligence (fuckin SHOCKING)

  

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47. "Lol @ peddle... no need for that. You already agree."
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>you want me to cosign so bad
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>like, aint nuthin you can say to get me to agree



Not even that. I just want you to understand
the point she's making, b/c you already agreed
and just don't realize it lol.



>including taking shots at my intelligence (fuckin SHOCKING)


It's not a shot. I really do believe you're
capable of understanding her point. Your
emotional reaction just won't let you.

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40. "."
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Wed Jan-24-18 10:37 AM by Boogie Stimuli

          

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2. "Le sigh no need to rephrase the clearly"
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stated.

Black in the USA is dangerous because this is a settlers colony established on your continual exploitation and justified by pseudo science and phony religion.

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9. "YUUUUUUUUUP"
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36. "Bingo"
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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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3. "this reinforces my belief that 98.7% of lawyers are idiots...."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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5. "ehh, I'm in the 99% of lawyers are fucking lying ass liars"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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18. "Can you explain this, or is it the doublenegative disagreement from the"
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GoT post?

"The points are fully valid, and I don't disagree...
but I disagree, b/c agreeing would ruin ____ for me."

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4. "I don't like the way this reads.. "
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and why did I skim the comment section

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Boogie Stimuli
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17. ""a trait that creates disadvantage when combined with ..."
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an inhospitable social or physical environment."


Do you have a problem with that as description for
Blackness in America?

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BrooklynWHAT
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7. "yeah i reject this on GP."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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kayru99
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10. "reparations strategy. Interesting approach."
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Not mad @ all

  

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Boogie Stimuli
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19. "Reparation is exactly what I thought when I read it."
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Of course it's battling them on their own turf,
so there's the strong possibility that it won't
work, but there are those of us who've done it
successfully... not to mention it's just an argument
for now and not an actual defense.
At any rate, I don't see them handing us our
deserved compensation, so I definitely can't
disparage someone for looking for completely logical
ways to get it.

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micMajestic
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21. "Maybe if she tied this directly to slavery in America people "
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>Of course it's battling them on their own turf,
>so there's the strong possibility that it won't
>work, but there are those of us who've done it
>successfully... not to mention it's just an argument
>for now and not an actual defense.
>At any rate, I don't see them handing us our
>deserved compensation, so I definitely can't
>disparage someone for looking for completely logical
>ways to get it.
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would actually fully understand the basis for special treatment.
Unfortunately I think people are seeing the word "disability" and immediately getting uncomfortable.

  

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23. "It might, but we'd still get reply one if he's worried about what white"
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ppl would say, b/c white people already say slavery
was 10,000 yrs ago, get over it, etc. I knew the
word "disability" would make people uncomfortable.
so I stated all that before the swipe, and
people still couldn't get past it even with the
legal definition. I can only help somebody along
so far if they won't read and comprehend.
And more to the point, she could tie it to slavery,
Jim Crow, Homestead Acts, The New Deal, AND todays
stats, and niggas would still trip if they don't
read about and fully understand the effects/reality of
these things lol. I really wish I was wrong about that too.


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26. "yeah, it's America. No one is using the legal definition"
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they will just see "disability" and run with it.

folks wanted the Affordable Care Act but hated Obamacare.

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22. "yeah, it's pretty obvious to me. "
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I don't know if its because I'm heavily in a certain wheelhouse these days or not, but does it seem like there are more people making a case for reparations to you?

  

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27. "RE: yeah, it's pretty obvious to me. "
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>does it seem like there are
>more people making a case for reparations to you?

Hmm. I can only say that I'm discovering more and
more voices who advocate it, but I think that's just
because of where I am mentally these days.
I'm definitely up for recommendations or observations tho.

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50. "but you realize this is also "wondering what the white man will think""
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anyway you flip it, it comes off as a label being used to get some shit from white folk or get them to feel empathy which ain't gonna happen.

nah b. I ain't for this one.

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Boogie Stimuli
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53. "*sigh*"
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notice this distinction for me, Legs...
There's are difference between wondering whether white
people will think little of you (they're going to
claim they do regardless)... and wondering how
to get what you're owed from them.
What you're owed is tangible. What they think of
you is not. If your "self of steam" is determined
by what they claim to think of you, you never had
it and never will.
The point of view yall are coming from is concerned
SOLELY with what white folks collectively think of
you. That concern has no purpose. It's all emotional.
Her point of view is concerned with what the white
ppl in control of handing out benefits think IN ORDER
to get the tangibles owed to Black folks.
And just in case anyone wants to claim we shouldn't
be seeking a "handout", we're the only people who
don't. Hell even all that shutting down Wall Street
was about getting gov't handouts. It's how everyone
got ahead in America. Free stuff.

Ftr, I'm not of the school of thought that we will
get reparations, but I'm not against those who fight
for them either.


>anyway you flip it, it comes off as a label being used to get
>some shit from white folk or get them to feel empathy which
>ain't gonna happen.
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>nah b. I ain't for this one.

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28. "So much for MLK's message to judge a person by his/her character."
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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29. "i can't tell if this is satire."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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31. "no it's not."
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Tue Jan-23-18 11:56 PM by shygurl

          

He's always like that.

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I hope you live a life you’re proud of. If you find that you’re not, I hope you have the strength to start all over again.

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38. "He gotta be white. "
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57. "Your character is trash."
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___________________

Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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Atillah Moor
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35. "I get a treat the symptom not the virus kind of vibe from the article"
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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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Boogie Stimuli
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45. "And frankly, that's a wrong interpretation."
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I mean, if you acknowledge that you live in a
system of WHITE supremacy (WHITE), how can you
feel it's a knock on a Black person to say that
their success has been hindered by said system?
She's essentially using the language of the law to
say exactly that. Like, do yall understand how
representing clients in court works? They call
that damages, and those generally warrant what?
Compensation aka reparations. It's not as hard
as yall are making it, I promise.

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52. "What was your position on black folks married to whites again?"
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before we get started

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54. "My position? Outside such an arrangement. Why is this important?"
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56. "wasn't sure if you were black folks with white spouses are suspect "
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when it comes to their interactions with their culture

I think an argument that white American identity is based on racial and religious deception and division dating back to Henry the 8th is just as easy to argue with better long term effects

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46. "Let's start from the top. Can someone give me examples of this?"
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>“However, disability law recognizes that many traits
>understood as disabling do not necessarily arise from a
>medical condition, but are instead simply traits that create
>disadvantage when combined with an inhospitable social or
>physical environment,” Paul-Emile stated.

What traits are considered disabilities yet don't arise from medical conditions?

  

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51. "culturally disabled l agree"
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Shout out to Moynihan

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it becomes simply another recourse appropriated by the colonizer

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