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BigReg
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"Official Russell Simmons is a piece of shit post"
Mon Nov-20-17 06:19 AM by BigReg

  

          

If that whole Rush Card business didn't get you (even before they went offline and locked thousands out of their paychecks for weeks) where all that lisp motherfucker did was take payday scams to the 21st century, here's some creepiness to get you through the day with some select clips:

http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-brett-ratner-russell-simmons-20171119-htmlstory.html

Ratner was an up-and-coming music video director and a protege of Simmons, the Def Jam Recordings mogul. They took Khalighi to dinner one night in 1991 at Mr. Chow in New York, and then back to Simmons’ apartment to show her a music video they’d been working on.

Quickly, Simmons began making aggressive sexual advances, yanking off her clothes, Khalighi said.

“I looked over at Brett and said ‘help me’ and I'll never forget the look on his face,” she recalled. “In that moment, the realization fell on me that they were in it together.”


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Admiration — and success — were not the only things Ratner and Simmons allegedly shared. In a 2005 Playboy article about Simmons’ reformed ways, magazine writer Touré described a 1994 incident in which he met Simmons for an interview at a cafe below the music mogul’s apartment. When Ratner showed up a little while later, Simmons disappeared for half an hour without explanation. Touré wrote that he later learned that Simmons "had gone up to his place and had sex with a sumptuous model whom Ratner had just finished with."

  

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didnt realise how much Ratner looks like a skinnier Harvey W
Nov 19th 2017
1
Ever seen the movie "Honey"?
Nov 30th 2017
159
But he likes yoga and spirituality.
Nov 19th 2017
2
lol. to be fair i think all this was before his guru simmons phase
Nov 20th 2017
17
Terry Crews aired his ass out too.
Nov 20th 2017
3
Give him a pass..
Nov 20th 2017
6
      If it was just the pass I MIIIIGHTA let it slide
Nov 20th 2017
9
           Right? Dude ain’t shit.
Nov 20th 2017
47
Sits "indian" style in this post
Nov 20th 2017
4
Hollywood.... Music....Athletes up next...but yeah...not surprised one
Nov 20th 2017
5
I'm dying.
Nov 20th 2017
44
      I knew I called it...keep telling ya'll i'm a clairvoyant
Nov 22nd 2017
150
Always wondered why Kimora left him.
Nov 20th 2017
7
Sadly, this may not have ANY impact on why she left him.
Nov 20th 2017
96
serious question: do we just automatically believe the accusers?
Nov 20th 2017
8
Depends. Crews posting that email from Russell is a bad look
Nov 20th 2017
10
that was some bitch shit on terrys part imo.
Nov 20th 2017
18
      Nah, I give him a pass on that one. It was a bitchmade email
Nov 20th 2017
21
      No, wanting someone to forgive their fucking attacker is lame.
Nov 20th 2017
22
      they arent mutually exclusive.
Nov 20th 2017
25
           They very much are.
Nov 20th 2017
39
      you telling me to give a dude a pass for grabbing my dick??
Nov 20th 2017
34
      i would approach a nigga on the personal. maybe thats just me tho.
Nov 20th 2017
36
           Fuck Russell’s feelings...
Nov 20th 2017
43
           Part of the narrative
Nov 20th 2017
48
                ah this is a good point.
Nov 20th 2017
52
                     That's how I see it too. Crews is trying to do the right thing.
Nov 20th 2017
90
      yikes. nah
Nov 21st 2017
132
      There's only one bitch in that situation, its Russell Simmons
Nov 21st 2017
139
Of course. Most of these cases tho...
Nov 20th 2017
13
russ has been accused of assault/harassment before this?
Nov 20th 2017
24
      The 2001 story made waves back in the day pre-twitter
Nov 20th 2017
32
           damn had no idea.
Nov 20th 2017
33
We're the peanut gallery. Our opinions have no impact on them
Nov 20th 2017
14
this is degrees different from rape no?
Nov 20th 2017
20
      The type is Ephebophilia tho. She's underaged.
Nov 20th 2017
27
I am with you. But I've believed Russell Simmons is a P.O.S. for
Nov 20th 2017
15
dude def got a rep that makes the allegation more believable.
Nov 20th 2017
28
Well he admitted to the sex
Nov 20th 2017
16
you def are in a tough spot
Nov 20th 2017
37
for me it depends on who they're accusing and the story
Nov 20th 2017
19
brett makes the situation 10x more scummy lol.
Nov 20th 2017
35
It is always benefitial
Nov 20th 2017
23
yeah i think we are all guilty of this as well.
Nov 20th 2017
31
Man....years ago, an article was titled, "if a woman says she was
Nov 20th 2017
95
nope. Too many falsely imprisoned/dead/lynched black men for that, IMO
Nov 22nd 2017
142
      you could also not lynch people in general
Nov 22nd 2017
144
I saw him in an interview with Skip Gates yearsa ago
Nov 20th 2017
11
Him meeting Kimora at 17 always raised my eyebrow
Nov 20th 2017
12
yeah
Nov 20th 2017
46
same
Nov 20th 2017
116
I imagine that Rus has spent most of the 80s and 90s in a coked up
Nov 20th 2017
26
I mean Russell sucked. In the 80's the brain was Rick Rubin
Nov 20th 2017
30
      Russ had them white folks trust.. that was his talent
Nov 20th 2017
49
           Now you know there is real hood shit you wouldn't want brought
Nov 20th 2017
50
                and i don't think Russ was talkin' about chicken
Nov 20th 2017
51
                Yeah... Save that hood shit for the studio.
Nov 20th 2017
57
                Shit, I know hood dudes that I don't even want on my porch
Nov 20th 2017
60
                     Nigga do I come to your hood and litter?
Nov 20th 2017
69
The guy who made the "Harriet Tubman sex tape" is a piece of shit?
Nov 20th 2017
29
Huh?
Nov 20th 2017
38
RE: Huh?
Nov 20th 2017
41
      Yeah.. that dude is gone
Nov 20th 2017
42
      Damn dude really hates himself. Don't blame him either
Nov 20th 2017
54
Damn
Nov 20th 2017
40
you're kind of doing a lot here
Nov 20th 2017
111
      Negro sit down somewhere already lol
Nov 21st 2017
121
           there's no telling he signed off on anything either
Nov 21st 2017
124
                Damn again
Nov 21st 2017
125
                     Thank you
Nov 21st 2017
134
                          You welcome
Nov 21st 2017
137
I wonder if this is about Serena
Nov 20th 2017
45
whoever it is I feel super bad for them
Nov 20th 2017
53
Sometimes I wonder if these women who date these dudes
Nov 20th 2017
55
      I wonder if there's a way to blame women for these shitty dudes
Nov 20th 2017
56
      ironyman to the rescue!!!
Nov 20th 2017
58
      you'll always be a loser, and it's not my fault. it's not women's fault/
Nov 20th 2017
62
      Gotdamn you need a Pete Rock remix of your stale ass post b.
Nov 20th 2017
68
           don't you have more women to "wonder" about?
Nov 20th 2017
75
                welp
Nov 20th 2017
117
      Tip of the hat for this + the Pete Rock reply, lmao
Nov 21st 2017
122
           That nigga works in a pretzel factory.
Nov 22nd 2017
151
      ehhhhh that's not what he's saying this time.
Nov 20th 2017
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           nah, he's shifting and blurring the blame.
Nov 20th 2017
61
           haha, yw
Nov 20th 2017
66
           I would say he’s playing dumb but he ain’t playing
Nov 20th 2017
64
                predators are what they need to be
Nov 20th 2017
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      ^ I'm saying. If you run in those circles you gotta know
Nov 20th 2017
63
      Bingo
Nov 20th 2017
65
           I'm not blaming women, but what about harvey's wife???
Nov 20th 2017
67
                Who’s blaming her? I said I wonder if she knew
Nov 20th 2017
71
                     you are a loser.
Nov 20th 2017
73
                     You sound mad bro
Nov 20th 2017
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                          you got loser ears, it's probably the echo.
Nov 20th 2017
78
                               Ok. Great talk, let’s try this again some other time.
Nov 20th 2017
81
                     "no blame, I just wonder if she knew he was a rapist and did nothing"
Nov 20th 2017
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      they know exactly what they're dealing with.
Nov 20th 2017
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      Yup.
Nov 20th 2017
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      come on now
Nov 20th 2017
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      Can you really date an asshole and expect him not to be an asshole?
Nov 20th 2017
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      I know this may come as a shock, but to women all men are assholes
Nov 20th 2017
85
           Well, yeah.. I agree 99% when it comes to nude photos
Nov 20th 2017
91
      nope, CSI: Losers have decided the case
Nov 20th 2017
80
      can you really? if you know a stove is hot would you touch it?
Nov 20th 2017
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      Yah. These dudes aren’t living double lives
Nov 20th 2017
83
           and you got money like that? Why even hide it?
Nov 20th 2017
100
      PSA: You can NOT date an asshole and act them not to share your
Nov 20th 2017
84
      and this could be why Serena and he broke up
Nov 20th 2017
88
           not to blame them
Nov 20th 2017
89
      Hillary knew Bill was a serial cheater
Nov 20th 2017
86
      I doubt these dudes are wifing women from the casting coach
Nov 20th 2017
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           It's no different than those songs that are hyper misogynist
Nov 20th 2017
101
           Not saying they treat these wives like casting couch contesting
Nov 20th 2017
108
RE: I wonder if this is about Serena
Nov 20th 2017
114
People who didn't even live with Jerry Sandusky knew what was up
Nov 20th 2017
87
Y'all dusty ass armchair dating ass niggas bamma'ing up my post
Nov 20th 2017
92
*Plays LL’s I’m That Type of Guy while reading your post.
Nov 20th 2017
93
hahahaha
Nov 21st 2017
140
cant relate lol.
Nov 20th 2017
94
LMAO!
Nov 20th 2017
97
not for the rich. Bernie Madoff's wife knew what the fuck was up
Nov 20th 2017
99
guilty consciences showing themselves
Nov 20th 2017
119
      http://sickoftheradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fabienne-verdier-ar...
Nov 21st 2017
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      It's like clockwork. Same dudes every sexual assault/rape post
Dec 16th 2017
164
pretty sure it still is..... but this WAS the 90s "music industry"
Nov 20th 2017
102
so Terry Crews is all big and bad now? why he aint air out the groper?
Nov 20th 2017
103
He was on Good Morning America last week
Nov 20th 2017
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He did air out the groper, he's a top agent who has taken a leave
Nov 20th 2017
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the incident happened in 2016, yet he wasted no time with Russ
Nov 20th 2017
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      Cause he was ready to talk about it
Nov 20th 2017
107
      cant play tough AFTER u let a man grab your nuts in front of your wife
Nov 20th 2017
110
           Nah man, he was fucked. Funny enough he did the right thing at the time
Nov 20th 2017
112
                you right. hashtags have changed the game.
Nov 20th 2017
115
                This. Crews even spoke on this exact thing ...
Nov 21st 2017
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                Damn Frank Sinatra's boy ain't playing at ALL
Nov 21st 2017
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      Prolly cause Russell doesn’t have the power to fuck up his money
Nov 20th 2017
109
           They already tried to leak fake stories apparently
Nov 20th 2017
113
                umpfh
Nov 21st 2017
120
                     i didnt blame Terry, have fun with that straw man
Nov 21st 2017
123
                          Is he really acting tough tho?
Nov 21st 2017
127
                               RE: Is he really acting tough tho?
Nov 21st 2017
129
                                    Oh... good luck with that.
Nov 21st 2017
131
*adds name to the list*
Nov 21st 2017
133
      feminists like you are just as bad as harcore conservatives
Nov 21st 2017
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           please do explain
Nov 22nd 2017
143
           lolllllll
Nov 22nd 2017
145
           LMAO!!
Nov 22nd 2017
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           haha
Nov 22nd 2017
147
           THE WHITE WOMENZ OF BLACK WOMENZ!!!
Nov 22nd 2017
148
Well, this about the least surprising news ever
Nov 21st 2017
135
RE: Well, this about the least surprising news ever
Nov 21st 2017
138
A+ post would read again
Nov 21st 2017
141
Same here
Nov 22nd 2017
149
*Abe Simpson gif*
Nov 23rd 2017
152
He's stepping down from his companies after assault allegation (swipe)
Nov 30th 2017
153
Damn Russ.. yoga can't save you from this shit
Nov 30th 2017
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SoooOooooo......Who up next....Brother Love?
Nov 30th 2017
154
Their seems to be a high co-relation between Assholia & Sex Assault
Nov 30th 2017
156
Its like dating tho....people in the spotlight show us the best version
Nov 30th 2017
158
HBO removes Russells name from All Def Comedy Jam
Nov 30th 2017
157
NYT lands the killing blow. Dude is so awful and done.
Dec 14th 2017
160
Amanda Seales (formerly Amanda Diva)...
Dec 15th 2017
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#NOTME
Dec 15th 2017
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He most post on /r/mra
Dec 15th 2017
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Total: Now nine women, four of whom say they were raped
Dec 16th 2017
165
Russells being the first hip-hop dude going down makes sense
Dec 16th 2017
166
n+1
Jul 11th 2018
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addition from mid 1980s Fresh Fest
Jul 12th 2018
168
I remember hearing he got shot but this confirms it
Jul 12th 2018
169
      that's wildly correct.
Jul 14th 2018
170

araQual
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1. "didnt realise how much Ratner looks like a skinnier Harvey W"
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Original Juice
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159. "Ever seen the movie "Honey"?"
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David Moscow of "Big" fame plays a douchey music video director..

and he looks and acts like a skinnier version of Brett Ratner..

Using his directing clout to try to sleep with Jessica Alba.. only to sabotage her career when he is rejected.

  

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2. "But he likes yoga and spirituality."
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Don't that mean he's enlightened?

  

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17. "lol. to be fair i think all this was before his guru simmons phase"
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>Don't that mean he's enlightened?

with that said.
dudes will use anything as "game".
even spirituality. especially spirituality cause it lets women's guards down.

  

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3. "Terry Crews aired his ass out too. "
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6. "Give him a pass.. "
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I never liked Russell Simmons for some reason. Dude just seemed like an asshole irl.

shut up already, damn

  

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BigReg
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9. "If it was just the pass I MIIIIGHTA let it slide"
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>I never liked Russell Simmons for some reason. Dude just
>seemed like an asshole irl.

That nigga told Crews to ask for him to be reinstated, lol.

It's just slimy. No, 'Yeah man, that was fucked up. Stay up, my mans was just drunk...etc"

It was like, 'yeah, he apologize? either publicly ask for his job back, I got a few million on a deal riding on this, nigger"

  

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47. "Right? Dude ain’t shit. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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4. "Sits "indian" style in this post"
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shut up already, damn

  

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5. "Hollywood.... Music....Athletes up next...but yeah...not surprised one "
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iota

he seems to be the weirdo type p.o.s. who gets away with the
nom-yo-ho game

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Coolin...

  

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44. "I'm dying."
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>he seems to be the weirdo type p.o.s. who gets away with the nom-yo-ho game<

Like real tears. That said, totally agree. He's been a creep for years. He got with Kimora when she was like 16 If i'm not mistaken.

  

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150. "I knew I called it...keep telling ya'll i'm a clairvoyant"
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#24

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13211081&mesg_id=13211081&page=#13211121

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7. "Always wondered why Kimora left him."
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Maybe Reverend Run can pray for him?

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96. "Sadly, this may not have ANY impact on why she left him."
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8. "serious question: do we just automatically believe the accusers?"
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or should we have some healthy balance of both skepticism and sensitivity?

its one thing if the alleged perp confesses to it. but what if they vehemently deny it?

im sure yall can see how rushing to condemn someone off allegations is a slippery slope (and possibly exploitable for people with ulterior motives).

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10. "Depends. Crews posting that email from Russell is a bad look"
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shut up already, damn

  

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18. "that was some bitch shit on terrys part imo."
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i dont agree with what russ did but terry running to social media to snitch and gossip like a sidepiece was lame.

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21. "Nah, I give him a pass on that one. It was a bitchmade email"
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Like I said above, the email seemed very 'Get er done, boy!' to me.

If it was a deep confessional that veered elsewhere I see the point, then yeah snitching.

But if I get a 'what the fuck is this? who's mans is this?' email, all bets are off.

  

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22. "No, wanting someone to forgive their fucking attacker is lame."
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Reeq
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25. "they arent mutually exclusive."
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39. "They very much are."
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This is some victim blaming bullshit.

  

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34. "you telling me to give a dude a pass for grabbing my dick??"
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and I’m supposed to honor some code?

Russ getting off light bruh..

shut up already, damn

  

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36. "i would approach a nigga on the personal. maybe thats just me tho."
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43. "Fuck Russell’s feelings..."
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In this case I would do whatever the fuck I felt like doing.

If a dude goes public with his dark shit best believe you don’t slide him a DM asking him to chill out.

We see it on OKP all the time too. Nigga sends a private message trying to dead shit and dude grabs the megaphone “THAT AINT HOW YOU WAS TALIKING IN THE PRIVATE MESSAGE WHEN YOU ASKED ME IF WE WUZ COOL”

When a nigga is in his feelings don’t send an email or call a nigga.

shut up already, damn

  

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48. "Part of the narrative"
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with the Harvey Weinstein situation is that folks knew he was a slimeball but kept their mouths shut, for an assortment of reasons. Perhaps Crews is putting Simmons on blast to reverse the course on wanting to keep this questionable behavior in the dark.


I personally wonder how many bridges Crews is burning by coming out with his accounts of what went down with him; and I'm including folks that tangentially are involved with the folks he's naming names on through business connections.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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52. "ah this is a good point."
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>with the Harvey Weinstein situation is that folks knew he was
>a slimeball but kept their mouths shut, for an assortment of
>reasons. Perhaps Crews is putting Simmons on blast to reverse
>the course on wanting to keep this questionable behavior in
>the dark.

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90. "That's how I see it too. Crews is trying to do the right thing. "
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>>with the Harvey Weinstein situation is that folks knew he
>was
>>a slimeball but kept their mouths shut, for an assortment of
>>reasons. Perhaps Crews is putting Simmons on blast to
>reverse
>>the course on wanting to keep this questionable behavior in
>>the dark.
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132. "yikes. nah"
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139. "There's only one bitch in that situation, its Russell Simmons "
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13. "Of course. Most of these cases tho..."
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Like this isn't a black teenager in Hickworld, Alabama where a white girl he's dating lies when her parents find out.

For instance Jeffrey Tambor I read about, saw it was a he said/she said between one of the staff members, he gave a strongly worded 'Its wasn't me nigga' (not these vague...'i don't recall (c)Sessions like these other creeps)...In my mind I ain't cast a judgement either way.

But when his co-star comes out saying he was humping her on set...lol. She ain't gonna explode the show that pays her rent unless its really fucking with her, nahmean.

These guys are habitual line steppers (c) RIP. Russ got 3 on his head and it's only broke yesterday...give it time.

>or should we have some healthy balance of both skepticism and
>sensitivity?
>
>its one thing if the alleged perp confesses to it. but what
>if they vehemently deny it?
>
>im sure yall can see how rushing to condemn someone off
>allegations is a slippery slope (and possibly exploitable for
>people with ulterior motives).

  

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Reeq
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24. "russ has been accused of assault/harassment before this?"
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maybe it slipped my mind.
refresh my memory.

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32. "The 2001 story made waves back in the day pre-twitter"
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>maybe it slipped my mind.
>refresh my memory.

  

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Reeq
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33. "damn had no idea."
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14. "We're the peanut gallery. Our opinions have no impact on them"
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>or should we have some healthy balance of both skepticism and
>sensitivity?
>
>its one thing if the alleged perp confesses to it. but what
>if they vehemently deny it?
>
>im sure yall can see how rushing to condemn someone off
>allegations is a slippery slope (and possibly exploitable for
>people with ulterior motives).


But they could impact people around you who are going through similar things so you should consider that.

Russ likes to keep a pretty young (barely legal) thing on his arm so this doesn't seem that outlandish.

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20. "this is degrees different from rape no?"
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>Russ likes to keep a pretty young (barely legal) thing on his
>arm so this doesn't seem that outlandish.

does it make an allegation more credible against someone if they were his 'type'?

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27. "The type is Ephebophilia tho. She's underaged."
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If we are talking about grown folks shit; maybe they run in similar circles that like groupsex kinks, etc.

We talking about behavior that might get ya punched in the face even if she was down. Russ was late 30's during the time he admittedly ran a train on a 17 year old.

The fact it was against her will? Run his yoga ass over with a limo.

>>Russ likes to keep a pretty young (barely legal) thing on
>his
>>arm so this doesn't seem that outlandish.
>
>does it make an allegation more credible against someone if
>they were his 'type'?

  

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15. "I am with you. But I've believed Russell Simmons is a P.O.S. for"
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a minute.

Read all the Hip-Hop histories and bios and you get the impression that his greatest talent was knowing how to party really well with White People (or to put another way, Russ has spent alot of his time in a Coked up daze).


>or should we have some healthy balance of both skepticism and
>sensitivity?
>
>its one thing if the alleged perp confesses to it. but what
>if they vehemently deny it?
>
>im sure yall can see how rushing to condemn someone off
>allegations is a slippery slope (and possibly exploitable for
>people with ulterior motives).


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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28. "dude def got a rep that makes the allegation more believable."
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we gotta be careful not to sway into confirmation bias territory tho.

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16. "Well he admitted to the sex"
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says it was consentual with a 17 year old with 2 powerful men in the room. Yeah, fuck him.

  

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37. "you def are in a tough spot"
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when confessing to fucking a teenager 'consensually' is the *best* alibi.

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19. "for me it depends on who they're accusing and the story"
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ex i can totally see Russ and Brett getting down like this.

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35. "brett makes the situation 10x more scummy lol."
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23. "It is always benefitial"
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to listen to all sides of the story before rushing to any conclusions or judgements.

I do admit that if multiple folks accuse one person of wild behavior, that makes me view the accused person with skeptical eyes since it's hard for me to think multiple folks that don't know each other would want to come together to bring one person down, but I do suppose that is possible, depending on the folks involved.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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31. "yeah i think we are all guilty of this as well."
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95. "Man....years ago, an article was titled, "if a woman says she was"
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raped by a man, you should believe her." And the article said 92% of them are telling the truth.

I responded to the Tweet, saying "I get it, but you shouldn't automatically say "ok, she said it, so he did it" and then throw him in jail or punish him" and women were MAD at me. They said that because the stigma of lying is so bad, barely any women would actually lie about it.

But I argued that it also depends on who it is that they're accusing...and that overall, they should ALWAYS be taken serious, and the situation should be investigated. But, that doesn't mean we should automatically rush to say "FUCK THEM FOREVER, KILL THEM, END THEIR CAREER" solely because they're accused.

It's so sensitive, though.

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142. "nope. Too many falsely imprisoned/dead/lynched black men for that, IMO"
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be neutral until something shows you otherwise

  

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144. "you could also not lynch people in general"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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11. "I saw him in an interview with Skip Gates yearsa ago"
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and from his conduct then I knew he wasn't shit

  

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12. "Him meeting Kimora at 17 always raised my eyebrow"
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They didn't marry until years later but a grown ass man pursuing a relationship (let alone just trying to have sex) with a barely legal adult has always been creepy to me

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46. "yeah"
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116. "same"
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and i met him around age 19/20 at a party and he hit on me but in a polite way
right after that he was hooked up with Kimora and i went
ooooh
cause it made sense for some odd reason
i think he said something to me about my hair and being mixed
automatic spidey tingle sense for me

and now all of this made sense and feel like i dodged a bullet frankly

on her part she was clearly CLEARLY in it for the money
that marraige was a business arrangement
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26. "I imagine that Rus has spent most of the 80s and 90s in a coked up"
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daze.

Like listen to that Mogul pod cast and you can tell there is a lot being left out of why Chris Lighty didn't want to work with Russel Simmons initially.




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30. "I mean Russell sucked. In the 80's the brain was Rick Rubin"
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in the 90's Def Jam was basically the 90's Bulls as far as artist roster and most importantly staffing; there's a reason why alot of bigwigs in media today worked in those halls. His one power was identifying talent on the front end and the back end, not being talented himself.

Someone said it above; his power was partying among white people, lol.

  

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49. "Russ had them white folks trust.. that was his talent"
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I remember an interview where he said he told rappers “don’t bring that hood shit into my office or anywhere near me”

High prolly meant don’t bring no fried chicken.. hot wings.. black girls.

shut up already, damn

  

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50. "Now you know there is real hood shit you wouldn't want brought"
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up to your offices if you worked at a record label. I can't fault him for that statement.


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51. "and i don't think Russ was talkin' about chicken"
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57. "Yeah... Save that hood shit for the studio. "
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Shit always rubbed me the wrong way.

Be hood niggers on these records tho...

I hate fake Buddha niggas man. It’s always the spiritual peaceful dudes who be the grimiest niggas of all.

shut up already, damn

  

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60. "Shit, I know hood dudes that I don't even want on my porch"
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Mofos start randomly (and loudly) insulting your neighbors, talking about hustling and keeping that thing tucked, etc. Meanwhile, your neighbors are out w/ the kids looking horrified. Nah, bruh... I'll stop by your crib instead.

  

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69. "Nigga do I come to your hood and litter? "
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I remember a dude from the hood throwing an empty bag of chips in our yard. My mom chased dude down and put that shit in his pocket.

She grew up in his hood and was like nigga know you won’t!!!

I still didn’t like the way Russell said that shit.

shut up already, damn

  

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29. "The guy who made the "Harriet Tubman sex tape" is a piece of shit?"
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Ya don't say

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38. "Huh? "
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shut up already, damn

  

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41. "RE: Huh? "
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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/russell-simmons-apologizes-for-harriet-tubman-sex-tape-20130815

Russell Simmons Apologizes for Harriet Tubman 'Sex Tape'
Def Jam co-founder pulls controversial comedy video

By RJ Cubarrubia
August 15, 2013

Russell Simmons' newly launched All Def Digital channel on YouTube has already encountered a bump in the road. The Def Jam co-founder has pulled a controversial comedy video titled "Harriet Tubman Sex Tape" from his new property after his "buddies from the NAACP called."

The video in question features an actress portraying the famous abolitionist. In the clip, the fake Tubman has sex with her "massa" so he'll allow her to operate the Underground Railroad, according to USA Today. Simmons issued an apology on his Global Grind website, noting he's "never taken down a controversial comedian" in the history of his former HBO show, Def Comedy Jam.

"I'm a very liberal person with thick skin. My first impression of the Harriet Tubman piece was that it was about what one of actors said in the video, that 162 years later, there's still tremendous injustice," Simmons wrote. "And with Harriet Tubman outwitting the slave master? I thought it was politically correct. Silly me. I can now understand why so many people are upset."

He continued, "I would never condone violence against women in any form, and for all of those I offended, I am sincerely sorry."

The news comes just one day after Simmons announced All Def Digital, according to Billboard. He's also launching a label with YouTube and Universal Records called All Def Music, looking to develop and promote artists through the video-sharing website. Simmons has good reason to watch out for his comedy properties, as well: he inked a two-year development deal with HBO in May, reteaming with the home of Def Comedy Jam.

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42. "Yeah.. that dude is gone"
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shut up already, damn

  

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54. "Damn dude really hates himself. Don't blame him either "
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40. "Damn"
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Disgusting.

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111. "you're kind of doing a lot here"
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him being the head of a company is not the same as making the product

he's very high up the ladder, the same way he was at Def Jam

  

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121. "Negro sit down somewhere already lol"
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We know he didn't literally make it.
He had to sign off on it tho.
Hence the apology.

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124. "there's no telling he signed off on anything either"
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it was a Youtube video made by people who wrongly thought they had a funny idea

he apologized as the head of the company, but it's like any CEO who has no clue what employees do on the clock

he seems to have done a lot bad, all Im saying is the Harriet Tubman thing isnt the best example of it

  

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125. "Damn again"
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>it was a Youtube video made by people who wrongly thought
>they had a funny idea
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>he apologized as the head of the company, but it's like any
>CEO who has no clue what employees do on the clock
>

Even if that was true, the statement he made after the backlash, proves he had no problem with it, when he should have rejected it.

>he seems to have done a lot bad, all Im saying is the Harriet
>Tubman thing isnt the best example of it


It's the perfect example because it shows how low he will go.

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134. "Thank you"
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Everything's turning out perfectly

  

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Lurkmode
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137. "You welcome"
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thanks for posting that I didn't know Russell went along with that.

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luminous
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45. "I wonder if this is about Serena"
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"In 2004, producer Shelly Clippard, then 29, flew to Prague, Czech Republic, with Ratner and others to tour a production facility that was offering promising tax incentives. She said Ratner traded seats to sit next to her for the transatlantic flight, and began making sexually explicit comments to her, showing her nude photographs of his famous then-girlfriend and graphically describing her body."

http://www.businessinsider.com/video-of-brett-ratner-and-serena-williams-shared-online-amid-sexual-misconduct-allegations-2017-11

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Sometimes you have to look reality in the face and say 'No!'
-Ben (Reaper)

  

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shygurl
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53. "whoever it is I feel super bad for them"
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What a piece of shit.

  

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legsdiamond
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55. "Sometimes I wonder if these women who date these dudes"
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know exactly who they are dealing with...

I have a hard time believing these dudes live double lives

shut up already, damn

  

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Rjcc
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56. "I wonder if there's a way to blame women for these shitty dudes"
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WHO COULD GUESS THAT THIS IS YOUR TAKEAWAY


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legsdiamond
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58. "ironyman to the rescue!!! "
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misquoting for over a decade!!

shut up already, damn

  

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Rjcc
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62. "you'll always be a loser, and it's not my fault. it's not women's fault/"
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it's you.

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legsdiamond
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68. "Gotdamn you need a Pete Rock remix of your stale ass post b. "
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Soft ass kick. Where is the snare?

shut up already, damn

  

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Rjcc
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75. "don't you have more women to "wonder" about?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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lfresh
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117. "welp"
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its been years and i came here to see if dudes sticking to their bullshit were still sticking to their slimy shit

that answers that
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

  

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Firecracker
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122. "Tip of the hat for this + the Pete Rock reply, lmao"
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Ironyman to the rescue!!!!
>misquoting for over a decade!!
>
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legsdiamond
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151. "That nigga works in a pretzel factory. "
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Always twisting shit so he can cape.

He’s the type of dude who has mad skeletons in his closet too.

shut up already, damn

  

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KiloMcG
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59. "ehhhhh that's not what he's saying this time."
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at least not how i read it. sounded like he's saying that he wonders if the women that actually date these people, as in are in a relationship with them, know or can tell that these dudes are out here assaulting other women.

  

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61. "nah, he's shifting and blurring the blame."
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don't try to misrepresent what I said to let him off the hook, thanks.

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66. "haha, yw"
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legsdiamond
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64. "I would say he’s playing dumb but he ain’t playing"
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Borish dudes who act like dude they described aren’t the type to be all smooth and proper. After a few drinks or a line or 2 the show their ass at parties.

So I’m wondering if Serena knew this dude was an ass and just shrugged cause that’s the culture?

It’s like when women date frat dudes in college. Those dudes are terrible but it’s all “but Brad doesn’t treat ME like that”

shut up already, damn

  

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lfresh
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118. "predators are what they need to be"
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Atillah Moor
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63. "^ I'm saying. If you run in those circles you gotta know "
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what you're dealing with

  

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legsdiamond
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65. "Bingo "
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Mon Nov-20-17 01:52 PM by legsdiamond

          

You think Weinstein’s wife didn’t know he was a POS?

my question was in response for spygurl feeling sorry for whoever dude was dating at the time.

Don’t feel too sorry for them. More than likely they knew and shrugged.

shut up already, damn

  

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Rjcc
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67. "I'm not blaming women, but what about harvey's wife???"
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you fucking loser.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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legsdiamond
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71. "Who’s blaming her? I said I wonder if she knew"
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and I think she did.

Remix your shit b.

This whole misquote followed by an insult makes you look like a clown ass nigga

shut up already, damn

  

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Rjcc
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73. "you are a loser. "
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you'll keep being a loser.

it has nothing to do with me.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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legsdiamond
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77. "You sound mad bro"
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shut up already, damn

  

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Rjcc
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78. "you got loser ears, it's probably the echo."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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legsdiamond
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81. "Ok. Great talk, let’s try this again some other time."
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Thanks.

shut up already, damn

  

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Rjcc
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74. ""no blame, I just wonder if she knew he was a rapist and did nothing""
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this fucking loser.



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BrooklynWHAT
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70. "they know exactly what they're dealing with."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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legsdiamond
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72. "Yup. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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shygurl
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76. "come on now"
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You can date an asshole with the expectation that he's not going to fucking share your intimate pictures with random strangers on a plane.

In these circumstances it's disingenuous to even mention the women; they did nothing wrong. The complete and total responsibility lies (lays?) with the men who are committing these crimes and acts of immorality.

  

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legsdiamond
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79. "Can you really date an asshole and expect him not to be an asshole? "
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That’s my question.

It’s not about blaming them, it’s about not reserving any sympathy for women who date assholes.

I don’t feel sorry for people who date assholes. Sorry.

shut up already, damn

  

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shygurl
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85. "I know this may come as a shock, but to women all men are assholes"
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And (before ya'll start) women are assholes too. There's no adult that's lived life perfectly, we've all done fucked up things. There's levels to the shit though, and I think a basic one is expecting that items sent in private btw two consenting parties are not willingly shared with outside parties unless all parties have consented. You know, a basic implied level of respect. If one party violates that consent, most adults would concede that that shit reflects badly on the person who broke the implied contract, not the party that kept their end of the bargain.

  

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legsdiamond
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91. "Well, yeah.. I agree 99% when it comes to nude photos"
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but see, I also think that 1% is nah nigga, you know how this recipe ends up after shot gets hot.

But yeah. I feel you on the trust being broken and that not being her fault. Now I get where you were coming from. Thanks for clarifying.

My question was just a general one about women who date these types of dudes. I don’t think many of them are truly shocked when they hear shit like “he showed photos, talked nasty on a flight”

I think it’s more like “... I told him that shit would get him in trouble one day”

shut up already, damn

  

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Rjcc
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80. "nope, CSI: Losers have decided the case"
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literally everyone who dates anyone knows exactly what they're doing behind their back.

they don't need any evidence or research to back this up, they've got their own weak ass need to find women who have somehow wronged someone and that's enough.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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82. "can you really? if you know a stove is hot would you touch it?"
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>You can date an asshole with the expectation that he's not
>going to fucking share your intimate pictures with random
>strangers on a plane.

i guess everybody thinks "this time it'll be different" but people don't really change.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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legsdiamond
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83. "Yah. These dudes aren’t living double lives "
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Cause assholes gonna be assholes regardless.

shut up already, damn

  

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Atillah Moor
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100. "and you got money like that? Why even hide it? "
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Mon Nov-20-17 04:00 PM by Atillah Moor

  

          

Like that woman Mel Gibson threatened up and down had no idea COME ON!!

  

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Buddy_Gilapagos
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84. "PSA: You can NOT date an asshole and act them not to share your"
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intimate pictures.

You SHOULD be able to. But you can't.

Infact, I would tell a sister or a daughter that if you give your intimate pictures to a dude, you should be prepared for the world to see if things go south (or even if they don't go south).

To tell a woman otherwise would be naive. And acknowleding this doesn't do anything to undermind the fact that the dude is 100% an asshole creep.





>You can date an asshole with the expectation that he's not
>going to fucking share your intimate pictures with random
>strangers on a plane.
>
>In these circumstances it's disingenuous to even mention the
>women; they did nothing wrong. The complete and total
>responsibility lies (lays?) with the men who are committing
>these crimes and acts of immorality.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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legsdiamond
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88. "and this could be why Serena and he broke up "
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that’s IF this is about Serena.

Just saying tho. You dating an asshole you gets no pity when he goes full asshole.

and I’m not talking about the dude who cheated and got caught. Im talking about the guys who moon people at parties, tell crass jokes loud as fuck, talk sexually at inappropriate times...

“Oh he’s just crazy.. I was attracted to his energy”

Yeah, give that guy your nudes and lets see how it plays out.

shut up already, damn

  

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89. "not to blame them"
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but it's their fault for giving those dudes their nudes.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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Atillah Moor
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86. "Hillary knew Bill was a serial cheater "
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and even went so far as to attack his accusers

there are women who are victims and then there are those who are not

  

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98. "I doubt these dudes are wifing women from the casting coach"
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I figure these dudes are invested in the whole "virgin vs prostitute" complex... their are some women they respect and approach accordingly (either out of fear or reverence) while the others are just objects for their sexual release.

So he's very likely treating his gf or wife alot better than he's treating the women on the side.

Even if he had a bad reputation, the woman is like "I don't see it, he's great with me!!" Hell, she may think she changed him!

So nah, I don't think these women really know the full extent of what's going on... especially if dude is keeping them happy.

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->

  

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Atillah Moor
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101. "It's no different than those songs that are hyper misogynist "
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and women love them anyway because they willingly ignore the content. Same with dudes

  

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legsdiamond
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108. "Not saying they treat these wives like casting couch contesting"
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More like knowing these dudes are borish assholes who say ignorant shit.

Like if Serena heard about dude in the plane talking all sexual she prolly wouldn’t be shocked or surprised.

shut up already, damn

  

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114. "RE: I wonder if this is about Serena"
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Only time I met Ratner... Serena was there too... this is like 04/05

so was Fabrice (milli vanilli)

Double 0
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Atillah Moor
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87. "People who didn't even live with Jerry Sandusky knew what was up"
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but somehow his wife was unaware he was regularly raping boys in their basement

  

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92. "Y'all dusty ass armchair dating ass niggas bamma'ing up my post"
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If we could have all known the true nature of the people we were dating none of us would have racked up the STD's, pregnancies (real, scared, and aborted), changed telephone numbers, learned to drink a 750ml bottle by yourself is fine when your sad, learned the nuances of P.Diddy production during multiple replays of Mary J Blige's "My Life" (that fifth snare in that bar? that was used in a biggie remix), and have parts of the world where you're afraid to go as if its ISIS held territory just because of that .0000001% chance into running into THAT motherfucker once again.

Aint shit people who've got a circle of people who believe they ain't shit, that's how they are able to do that shit. Y'all all dated ain't shit people that you ain't know they aint shit, how y'all acting brand new, lol

  

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legsdiamond
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93. "*Plays LL’s I’m That Type of Guy while reading your post. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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140. "hahahaha"
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http://soundcloud.com/djshinobishaw
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94. "cant relate lol."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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97. "LMAO!"
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99. "not for the rich. Bernie Madoff's wife knew what the fuck was up "
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119. "guilty consciences showing themselves"
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aint shit niggas in here trying to make themselves feel better
on that
well they knew i wasnt shit

meanwhile still mad at folks consistently telling them they aint shit
using their wives, daughters and girlfriends as shields

ie how you have a state full of women backing moore up
some know some dont

focus should be on
the aint shit men
but nah
they have women to blame

let them carry on and continue to out themselves

these dudes likely blame children as well
well you should have never taken that candy
thats where the saying comes from ya little dummies!
sugar is bad for ya!


sick ass dudes man
sick ass dudes
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128. "http://sickoftheradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fabienne-verdier-ar..."
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http://sickoftheradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fabienne-verdier-artist-giant-brush.jpg

shut up already, damn

  

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164. "It's like clockwork. Same dudes every sexual assault/rape post"
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How can niggas post infinite variations of...
"Lets not rushed to judgment but my judgment is that the women knew what was up and should get no sympathy."


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102. "pretty sure it still is..... but this WAS the 90s "music industry" "
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103. "so Terry Crews is all big and bad now? why he aint air out the groper?"
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104. "He was on Good Morning America last week"
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talking about the incident in full detail with Michael Strahan. The segment included the dude's name and showed photos of him as well; from what I remmeber, he's a big shot at IMG-WME, a fairly big agency in Hollywood. I only know of the company because they were the ones that bought the UFC recently.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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105. "He did air out the groper, he's a top agent who has taken a leave"
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of absence from work.

Adam Venit the head of the motion picture department at Williams Morris Endeavor

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106. "the incident happened in 2016, yet he wasted no time with Russ"
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107. "Cause he was ready to talk about it"
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why is it his fault Russ walked in his path while he was ready to fire?

and why is that an issue with you? LOL shut the fuck up


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110. "cant play tough AFTER u let a man grab your nuts in front of your wife"
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at a party FULL of people and didnt say shit for a year.

i have zero issue with his timing of speaking up. choices is what makes us different.

but your big 6’4” ass acting tough on Twitter on top of all that? nah.
sit this one out homie



  

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112. "Nah man, he was fucked. Funny enough he did the right thing at the time"
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That dude would be on Nate Parker status now with a bunch of #WeWithAdam hashtags on twitter talking with a bunch of diesel actor niggas not being able to get jobs because they are "too emotional."

Its like, id love the world to have worked that way but nobody was gonna believe a dude that actually looks like what every cop puts in their "I had to shoot!" police report gets molested by a white dude at a party.

We forget how big the initial Weinstein bomb is just cause we living in it. All these dudes from Louis CK to even Simmons himself had stories out there for years that they were able to dead quick.

Weinstein took Godzilla killing artillery to finally take down...there were multiple reports killed over decades to no avail; Notice Ronan Farrow was one of the main reporters involved who was is Hollywood royalty and is basically insulated (what they gonna do, raid his trust fund account?) along with other factors (decline of his company, infighting with his brother, etc) ...if it was regular ass niggas we wouldda got put on blast

  

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115. "you right. hashtags have changed the game."
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Brew
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126. "This. Crews even spoke on this exact thing ..."
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re: why he didn't beat the shit out of dude right then and there, and stayed quiet about it for so long. Something like "had I taken him to task right then and there, the headlines the next day would've read 'angry black actor beats Hollywood producer'" or something like that.

He's right, sadly.

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130. "Damn Frank Sinatra's boy ain't playing at ALL"
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re: Notice Ronan Farrow was one of the main reporters involved

  

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legsdiamond
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109. "Prolly cause Russell doesn’t have the power to fuck up his money"
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and I wouldn’t be surprised if other people in the industry who can fuck up his paper haven’t tried to get him to stfu..

and he prolly won’t air them out for obvious reasons.

shut up already, damn

  

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113. "They already tried to leak fake stories apparently"
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https://twitter.com/terrycrews/status/932369292103786496

  

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120. "umpfh"
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but no its his fault


at least the asshole are consistent in the asshollery
god damn does it hurt to maintain the head up your ass status though is the question?
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123. "i didnt blame Terry, have fun with that straw man"
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never even implied it was his fault

just dont play tough guy now, thats all.

speak up, speak out, then shut the fuck up

its akin to a kid being bullied when the teacher leaves the room
then when the teacher scolds the class for bullying now you wanna act all tough standing behind the teacher...no.

  

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127. "Is he really acting tough tho? "
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shut up already, damn

  

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129. "RE: Is he really acting tough tho? "
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acting tough is the difference between tweeting screenshots
and tweeting screenshots with the caption “NO ONE GETS A PASS!!” AFTER your big ass gave someone a pass for damn near 2 years.

  

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131. "Oh... good luck with that. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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133. "*adds name to the list*"
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i see you on that fuck shit too..

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136. "feminists like you are just as bad as harcore conservatives"
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143. "please do explain"
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"just as bad as" has got to be one of worst phrases in our discourse

  

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145. "lolllllll"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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146. "LMAO!!"
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147. "haha"
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148. "THE WHITE WOMENZ OF BLACK WOMENZ!!!"
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shut up already, damn

  

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mrhood75
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135. "Well, this about the least surprising news ever"
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Man, if people REALLY start picking at that the scabs of the music industry in the '80s and '90s (and, if we're being real, during its entire existence) shit is going to get REALLY ugly. There's always been a river of shit flowing beneath this industry. It's kind of odd that the Kesha/Dr. Luke story never gained much traction.

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138. "RE: Well, this about the least surprising news ever"
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Think the problem with luke and kesha was they couldnt find evidence...

But... she has released an album succesfully since and luke aint had a top 10 in years so..

It mightve worked just quietly

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141. "A+ post would read again"
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149. "Same here"
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The lulz (and disgust) are in full effect in this post.

This post was paid for by the following.

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152. "*Abe Simpson gif*"
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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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153. "He's stepping down from his companies after assault allegation (swipe)"
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/writer-jenny-lumet-russell-simmons-sexually-violated-me-guest-column-1062934


http://variety.com/2017/film/news/russell-simmons-jenny-lumet-sexual-assault-allegation-1202626935/

Russell Simmons is stepping down from his companies after being accused of sexual assault by writer Jenny Lumet. In a guest column in the Hollywood Reporter, Lumet accuses the Def Jam co-founder of forcing her to have sex in 1991. In a statement, Simmons said he had a different recollection of their encounter, but said Lumet's "feelings of fear and intimidation are real." He apologized to Lumet, who is the daughter of director Sidney Lumet and the screenwriter behind "Rachel Getting Married."

"There is so much guilt, and so much shame," Lumet wrote in her column. "There is an excruciating internal reckoning. As a woman of color, I cannot express how wrenching it is to write this about a successful man of color. Again, shame about who I was years ago, choices made years ago. In this very moment, I feel a pang to protect your daughters. I don't think you are inclined to protect mine."

For his part, Simmons said, "While I have never been violent, I have been thoughtless and insensitive in some of my relationships over many decades and I sincerely and humbly apologize."

In addition to his music work, Simmons is a successful film and television producer and the founder of such clothing fashion lines as Phat Farm and Tantris. This isn't the first time he has been accused of harassment or assault. Earlier this month, model Keri Claussen Khalighi accused Simmons of forcing her to have sex. She said the businessman worked in conjunction with director Brett Ratner to lure her to his apartment. Another woman, Tanya Reid, also accused Simmons of pressuring her to perform oral sex on Ratner. Both men deny the allegations.

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155. "Damn Russ.. yoga can't save you from this shit"
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shut up already, damn

  

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154. "SoooOooooo......Who up next....Brother Love?"
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156. "Their seems to be a high co-relation between Assholia & Sex Assault"
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Charges.

Like the two go hand in hand.

Even the folks we thought were nice guys turned out to be assholes when the lights weren't on them.


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158. "Its like dating tho....people in the spotlight show us the best version"
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of them as they can. Even if its not them. WE as fans just think we know these people because we try to take in as much info on them as possible from our point of view.


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157. "HBO removes Russells name from All Def Comedy Jam"
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/hbo-removing-russell-simmons-name-all-def-comedy-sexual-assault-claims-1063136

shut up already, damn

  

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160. "NYT lands the killing blow. Dude is so awful and done. "
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/13/arts/music/russell-simmons-rape.html?_r=0

What's particularly terrible is the one woman's story who says she left russell to get away from the harassment and went to Arista. Clive Davis treated her okay it seems then Clive left and LA Reid proceeded to harass her out the industry.

I'm thinking, at least Clive Davis is a decent human but then remembered that the rumor is he isn't into woman so couldn't use that as proof of a straight man working in music who doesn't harass attractive female underling. Does that shit exist?




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161. "Amanda Seales (formerly Amanda Diva)..."
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...has been rightfully talking shit about Simmons on her Instagram account since this shit popped off.

Earlier this year, maybe in October, she mentioned an unnamed person in the industry who randomly asked her something along the lines of, "Oh, have we fucked?" during an interview, or something.

They were never together and he couldn't remember...

A couple weeks later, around the time Simmons decided to step down from his companies, Seales revealed that Simmons was that unnamed person.

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162. "#NOTME"
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2017/12/15/russell-simmons-scandal-nypd-investigates-allegations-he-mounts-notme-defense/955887001/

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163. "He most post on /r/mra"
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165. "Total: Now nine women, four of whom say they were raped "
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Number of women who "knew what was up" to be determined by y'all.


(CNN)The New York Police Department has opened an investigation into Russell Simmons based on media reports of multiple women coming forward to accuse the music mogul of sexual misconduct, including rape, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation said.

The NYPD can open an investigation without a complaint made directly to them, which is the case with Simmons. A group of women told their stories to the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times.
Brad Rose, an attorney for Simmons, released a statement Thursday night saying that "Russell Simmons fully supports and will cooperate with the police inquiry and is confident of a swift resolution."

In stories published Wednesday, nine women accused the media mogul of sexual harassment and assault, in incidents alleged to have occurred over decades. Four of those women, Drew Dixon, Toni Sallie, Tina Baker and Sherri Hines accuse Simmons of rape. CNN's policy is not to name victims of sexual assault or rape unless they make their names public.
CNN has not independently verified the women's stories and has reached out to them for comment.
Detectives in the NYPD Special Victims Unit are working to identify the seven women who made the accusations and are reaching out to them as part of the investigation.
In a statement to CNN, Simmons "vehemently" denied all the allegations. "These horrific accusations have shocked me to my core and all of my relations have been consensual," he said....

Detectives in the NYPD Special Victims Unit are working to identify the seven women who made the accusations and are reaching out to them as part of the investigation.
In a statement to CNN, Simmons "vehemently" denied all the allegations. "These horrific accusations have shocked me to my core and all of my relations have been consensual," he said.



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166. "Russells being the first hip-hop dude going down makes sense"
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Just rapping about this with the missus and we were both wondering why there weren't more rap or music industry people being mentioned in the #meetoo knowing how fucked up the music industry is. Like where the Dame Dash stories?

Kind of came up with the theory is that everyone knows that people working in the music industry are POS so there aren't a lot of things that hip-hop people can do to surprise people. If you go Lil' Waynes room at 3AM most people will presume he is trying to f-.

The #metoo stories we have mostly heard have involved when these dude trick women or use their business image to get women in situations where they weren't expecting to get hit on or attacked.

Russell Simmons was the one hip-hop dude who had the image of a yoga practicing spiritually enlightened business man and that image he was able to use to get women in compromising situations that he could take advantage of them. Several of these story start with"I had been around Russell plenty of times and he was fine and that made me put my guard down..."


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167. "n+1"
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russ abt to go back to hiding out in bali holding the lotus pose for another 6 months


the rest of the details of her story is at the bottom link


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In November 1990, Alexia Norton Jones went on a date with Russell Simmons. She recalls that they had a pleasant night out, which ended with the co-founder of Def Jam Recordings inviting her to see his new apartment in downtown Manhattan. There, Jones says, Simmons pinned her against a wall and raped her. “It was such a fast attack,” she told Variety. “He pulled my dress up. I must have said no seven to 10 times.”

After she left, distraught and in shock, Jones claims that Simmons continued to pursue her, calling her at home and approaching her at social events. Jones, a 31-year-old aspiring model and actress at the time (she is the granddaughter of late book publisher W.W. Norton), was in the same social circle as Simmons. And Simmons was a friend of Jones’ father, Clarence Jones, who had served as an attorney and speechwriter for Martin Luther King Jr. After some years had passed, Jones forgave Simmons.


Last spring, almost three decades later, Jones filed a police report with the NYPD, from her home in Arizona, detailing the incident. Although her case fell outside the statute of limitations in New York for felonies, she wanted to stand with the other alleged victims of abuse by the music mogul and producer. She says she isn’t seeking any monetary damages.

In total, more than a dozen women have accused Simmons of sexual assault or rape (some of these stories were uncovered by investigations from The Los Angeles Times and The New York Times). Simmons, who has denied any wrongdoing, stepped down from his companies in November, after a guest column was published in The Hollywood Reporter by the screenwriter Jenny Lumet, in which she alleged that he sexually assaulted her in 1991.

Simmons issued a statement to Variety, denying that he had assaulted Jones. “I’m deeply saddened by this story from Alexia,” Simmons said. “At no time did she share these feelings about her first sexual encounter with me, which took place roughly 28 years ago. I have taken multiple lie detector tests that affirm I never sexually assaulted anyone. Alexia and I dated, were intimate and attended multiple events together after she alleges the incident occurred in 1990. I considered her a friend for all these years and continue to have a warm relationship with members of her family. I believe we last spoke in 2006 when she called to express her disappointment over the fact that I had not attended an event honoring her father.”

Simmons’ representative also provided a written statement by his driver, Kenneth L. Jennings, who has worked for him since 1989. “I recall driving Mr. Simmons and Alexia Jones on about 10 to 12 dates in or about 1990,” the statement read. “Their relationship lasted approximately five months.”

Jones says that she never dated Simmons. She acknowledged that she called him more than 12 years ago, to ask why he hadn’t attended an event that honored her father. She never told her dad what Simmons had done to her. But she confided in her therapist, who confirmed to Variety that Jones spoke with her in the early ’90s about the alleged attack in their sessions. Here’s Jones’ story, from a series of interviews with Variety.



https://variety.com/2018/music/news/russell-simmons-rape-allegation-alexia-norton-jones-1202868551/



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168. "addition from mid 1980s Fresh Fest"
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during Fresh Fest early-mid 1980s I was in middle school. Fresh Fest brought the largest, best HipHop show to Raleigh, NC. Hype was in the air. Artists were everywhere. Russell Simmons, apparently, was in holier than though form. Some visitors at Shaw University were not having this assholeishness. They shot him (during a chain snatch). Run-DMC almost didn't perform. Fresh Fest was almost fkd. But, Russell never came back to Raleigh again.

don't be fkn evil.

  

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169. "I remember hearing he got shot but this confirms it"
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I know somebody that went to the show and they said everyone was about to ask for their money back until Run DMC came out to perform.

Oh, and fuck Russell Simmons

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170. "that's wildly correct. "
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near revolt over Run-DMC almost not performing.

Raleigh doesn't play. Ran Eric B & Rakim offstage for performing a 15 "medley" during the Paid In Full days. I got stories.

don't be fkn evil.

  

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