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"Either this is most punk rock example in trap or I'm late"
Mon Nov-13-17 12:22 PM by double negative

  

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYhXJaEbw7c

fuck it, don't even watch the video. The visuals completely ruin the song.


So I was listening to the rap caviar playlist on spotify just hitting skip song after song and realizing NO ONE is saying anything fresh until I found this song.

I listened to this at least 3 times in a row.

I thought I happened upon some undiscovered gem but I later realized I was late as fuck to this.

Its a crazy mix of shit that oddly really works together and TBH it reminds me of a young black Lil' Ugly Mane.

The angry inflection
The way over the top boasting
The messy amateur sounding flow
The lo-fi and "cheap" sounding beat

If dude didnt have a rap sheet I would think he was joking but he is unfortunately serious as fuck about that life at 17.

I felt like John Cusack in High Fidelity when he finally listened to the demo from the band of kids who were always talking shit to him


9/10 chance this dude burns out quick like all the other one hit rappers

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RE: Either this is most punk rock example in trap or I'm late
Nov 13th 2017
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I'm like...how did I miss this?!
Nov 13th 2017
3
Based on the video and his crew
Nov 13th 2017
5
      he's implicated pretty thoroughly in 2 murders
Nov 13th 2017
7
           So I have two questions...
Nov 13th 2017
10
                I think it's cause it's easier to make songs and put them out there
Nov 13th 2017
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                yes
Nov 13th 2017
25
                     I was in LA this weekend and industry heads were having this convo
Nov 13th 2017
27
.
Nov 13th 2017
2
Hiphop is in an odd, post punk phase right now.
Nov 13th 2017
4
Most things sound like Ren & Ten from Brown Sugar at this point
Nov 13th 2017
6
      Not that it's a bad thing
Nov 13th 2017
8
Didn’t listen... I’m on that flipnile
Nov 13th 2017
9
give it a spin. its so odd it works.
Nov 13th 2017
11
      5 seconds and nah... nope
Nov 13th 2017
17
           you ever listen to Lil Ugly Mane?
Nov 13th 2017
21
                Haha... goodness no.
Nov 13th 2017
26
Great song. Kids going to jail tho.
Nov 13th 2017
12
I remember the story but I never gave him a listen. (NY Times link)
Nov 13th 2017
14
Pitiful that he's really a true criminal
Nov 13th 2017
15
What makes it like Punk Rock?
Nov 13th 2017
16
there are some stark similarities and differences
Nov 13th 2017
18
pretty much
Nov 13th 2017
20
The DIY feel of it. Its not polished and its raw.
Nov 13th 2017
19
mainly a disregard for tradition + a raw, stripped down sound
Nov 13th 2017
24
Punk wise its more Blink 182 than Sex Pisols
Nov 13th 2017
22
This is a horrible song
Nov 13th 2017
23
how about this Gummo joint from 6ix9ine
Nov 13th 2017
28
LOL. I know that exact house they shot that in front of
Nov 13th 2017
29
      RE: He Mexican?
Nov 13th 2017
31
play stupid games; win stupid prizes n/m
Nov 13th 2017
30
O.J. Should come out with a trap song or collab...
Nov 13th 2017
32
OJ, the Juice Man + OJ the Juiceman????
Nov 14th 2017
34
for me, getting old, it'll prolly always be Pill's Trap Goin' Ham
Nov 13th 2017
33

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1. "RE: Either this is most punk rock example in trap or I'm late"
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This has been poppin since early summer..,

Unfortunately.. his case is real as shit and he is prolly gone forever

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3. "I'm like...how did I miss this?!"
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5. "Based on the video and his crew"
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I would have thought he was some lame kid perpetrating(and he still might be, even with whatever charges he caught)

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7. "he's implicated pretty thoroughly in 2 murders"
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and some other crimes

surveillance footage and all that (allegedly)

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10. "So I have two questions..."
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1. is there an uptick of rappers who are tied to criminal activity? It seems like we're seeing this happen a bit more these days - then again...Slick Rick, Snoop & 'Pac

2. Has this topic been explored?

3. Has the topic of art imitating life/life imitating art in hip hop been explored?

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13. "I think it's cause it's easier to make songs and put them out there"
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due to technology.

Back in the day you would have NEVER heard of this dude because he didn't have a label to put his stuff out there.

There were probably a GANG of would-be rappers back in the day who got locked up before they had a chance to record anything.

Also there's probably more people in general trying to rap now since it's proven to be a lucrative job, so I guess it would make sense more criminals are getting involved.

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25. "yes"
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Mon Nov-13-17 02:01 PM by bearfield

  

          

>1. is there an uptick of rappers who are tied to criminal
>activity? It seems like we're seeing this happen a bit more
>these days - then again...Slick Rick, Snoop & 'Pac

the bar for making rap songs is extremely low these days (not judging, just stating a fact) and there are a million kids and young adults making beats that they put out for free on YT and SC, and some big name producers are willing to sell top-tier work to enterprising young trappers. bars are hastily strung together over a beat. a eager-to-work videographer is hired and shoots a video in the trap house/complex. video goes up on YT and it gets a few million views. touring commences. merch gets sold. money gets washed. maybe a transition to actual rapping fame happens

  

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27. "I was in LA this weekend and industry heads were having this convo"
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YT has changed the game.

shut up already, damn

  

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2. "."
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Mon Nov-13-17 12:29 PM by dba_BAD

  

          

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4. "Hiphop is in an odd, post punk phase right now."
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Like a lot of the rappers popping over the last 10 years would have been been laughing stocks in the 90's/early 00s

There's less of an emphasis on hardcore rhyming and more sing-songy verses that sound like choruses.

It's hard to describe, most music now has sort of grey-ish/blue-ish tint to it.

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6. "Most things sound like Ren & Ten from Brown Sugar at this point"
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>Like a lot of the rappers popping over the last 10 years
>would have been been laughing stocks in the 90's/early 00s
>
I totally agree with this, but at the same time, I think the metric has changed and rap fans I assume are checking for some other thing (style?)

>There's less of an emphasis on hardcore rhyming and more
>sing-songy verses that sound like choruses.
>

Yup

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8. "Not that it's a bad thing"
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I think Kanye West made it OK for mainstream rappers to be awkward/nerdy as fuck.

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9. "Didn’t listen... I’m on that flipnile"
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I’m not listening to shit I prolly won’t enjoy

shut up already, damn

  

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11. "give it a spin. its so odd it works. "
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17. "5 seconds and nah... nope"
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shut up already, damn

  

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21. "you ever listen to Lil Ugly Mane?"
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Mon Nov-13-17 01:27 PM by double negative

  

          

or any of the weird cross over shit from Lazer Sword, Sarah Farina, Machine Drum, etc?

It kinda fits in that area in some ways

ex:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJrll5fwhqY

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26. "Haha... goodness no. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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12. "Great song. Kids going to jail tho. "
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14. "I remember the story but I never gave him a listen. (NY Times link) "
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/arts/music/tay-k-the-race-criminal-charges.html

The song isn't the worst thing I've ever heard.

  

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15. "Pitiful that he's really a true criminal"
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16. "What makes it like Punk Rock?"
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18. "there are some stark similarities and differences"
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similarities being lo fi, lack of musical aspiration or technical mastery etc. plus the anti-establishmentism, even "anti social"ism

key difference being the vanity, boastful, pretty boy, capitalistic shit both in terms of the content as well as the medium

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20. "pretty much"
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19. "The DIY feel of it. Its not polished and its raw. "
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Mon Nov-13-17 01:22 PM by double negative

  

          

like the Ramones

it owns everything it is

edit:

there are "low fi" rappers like say Bushwick Zombies, but even they have a level of polish through the grit. This is just rawness on another level

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24. "mainly a disregard for tradition + a raw, stripped down sound"
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similar to how the raw, stripped down sound of punk rock was partially a reaction to the insanity of meticulous, over-produced, and operatic 70s rock. replace guitar solos with intricate rap verses and you get "punk" rap like the south florida guys and criminals washing their money (21 savage, nba youngboy, tay-k)

  

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22. "Punk wise its more Blink 182 than Sex Pisols"
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Take that for what you will.

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23. "This is a horrible song"
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28. "how about this Gummo joint from 6ix9ine"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAs9HZC9c7Y

song gets me energized as fuck in the gym

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29. "LOL. I know that exact house they shot that in front of"
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Goddamn, Bed stuy is hella weird now

  

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31. "RE: He Mexican?"
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this shit is OD with the toxic masculinity

  

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30. "play stupid games; win stupid prizes n/m"
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https://www.instagram.com/christiancgarrido/

Hussein ibn Malik "if he escaped on a horse he might be realest nigga ever, EVER..2013 Nat Turner with the burner"
MaxPtah "Django is real homie.."
PoppaGeorge "If you're a child of the 70's, Ye looks like a p

  

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32. "O.J. Should come out with a trap song or collab... "
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Or is it just my old ass or is this disturbing??? this real life shit, dudes involved in multiple murders and people’s hype over his music about it....


"Fuck this shit man"

  

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34. "OJ, the Juice Man + OJ the Juiceman????"
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33. "for me, getting old, it'll prolly always be Pill's Trap Goin' Ham"
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with time it's proven to be pretty conventional in terms of sound and fidelity, but man if this video and the content of the song didn't feel like it was challenging everybody me and people like me (white, suburban or midtown rap fans) felt about trap music aside from our knowledge of the real world problems of the Gucci/Jeezy beef.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z42Wxd-_drg


still disappointed what wound up happening with this dude.


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