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thegodcam
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"Big Pun's Son Exposes him as a Violent Abuser in Music Video"


  

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed_ml5gDIiE

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Exposes?
Nov 10th 2017
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i don't think he meant expose like it was breaking news
Nov 10th 2017
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you needed to see an artist's video to understand the seriousness of
Nov 10th 2017
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      WTF. How do you possibly glean that from what he said
Nov 10th 2017
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           obviously my question takes it to an extreme...duh
Nov 10th 2017
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                Yea fair I mean that's part of a larger discussion I suppose.
Nov 10th 2017
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                     There was a video floating around a while back of him hitting her with
Nov 10th 2017
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                          Yiiiiiikes.
Nov 10th 2017
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                          i knew he had beaten her, didnt know there was an actual vid
Nov 10th 2017
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                               video here if you want to see it
Nov 10th 2017
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Thought the same thing, then watched the video
Nov 10th 2017
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      Right it is a good video, but if this video opens eyes to Big Pun's dome...
Nov 10th 2017
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           I can't call it. A lot of people need images to contextualize
Nov 10th 2017
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                yeah, generally speaking its an issue of compassion/empathy
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damn
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Can't watch that video of Big Pun pistol whipping your mama and
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Good video. This wasn't news, but separating the artist from the art is ...
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Cenario
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1. "Exposes?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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BigJazz
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3. "i don't think he meant expose like it was breaking news"
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cuz pun's wife told that story a bunch of times.

but this video takes it past talking in an interview.


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Cenario
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Fri Nov-10-17 09:53 AM

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5. "you needed to see an artist's video to understand the seriousness of "
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domestic abuse?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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Brew
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7. "WTF. How do you possibly glean that from what he said"
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Fri Nov-10-17 10:00 AM by Brew

          

>you needed to see an artist's video to understand the seriousness of
>domestic abuse?

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Cenario
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8. "obviously my question takes it to an extreme...duh"
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Fri Nov-10-17 10:03 AM by Cenario

  

          

but i don't get this at all

>but this video takes it past talking in an interview.


i don't see how an artist's video holds more weight than a victim's actual account OR actual video of the abuse?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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Brew
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Fri Nov-10-17 11:13 AM

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12. "Yea fair I mean that's part of a larger discussion I suppose."
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>i don't see how an artist's video holds more weight than a
>victim's actual account OR actual video of the abuse?

The victims being silenced/ignored has long been a huge piece of the problem. Hopefully the recent flood of allegations and women finally being heard will buck that disgusting trend.

Is there actual video of the abuse ? I didn't know that.

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Cenario
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13. "There was a video floating around a while back of him hitting her with"
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a gun.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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Brew
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14. "Yiiiiiikes."
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thegodcam
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15. "i knew he had beaten her, didnt know there was an actual vid"
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16. "video here if you want to see it"
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https://youtu.be/f0A8sW6BZlM?t=1h34s


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MEAT
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Fri Nov-10-17 09:59 AM

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6. "Thought the same thing, then watched the video"
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It's a "good" video
As much as video with bruised and abused kids and women is gonna be.

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Cenario
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Fri Nov-10-17 10:05 AM

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9. "Right it is a good video, but if this video opens eyes to Big Pun's dome..."
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history, man...we losin recipes.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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MEAT
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10. "I can't call it. A lot of people need images to contextualize "
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I personally have never seen a bruised up women or kid outside of pop culture.
The video felt graphic to me in a way that the interviews didn't.
But I also didn't NEED the video to recognize the shitty situation.

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Cenario
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11. "yeah, generally speaking its an issue of compassion/empathy"
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I get that seeing the actual abuse>> hearing about it as far as the feelings it stirs up. Images are more powerful than words.

I guess the part that mostly bothers me is that this is an artist's depiction of general abuse(unless he stated that this depicted actual events).

A victim's actual statements or the video we have of BP hitting her should be more powerful than an artists video of abuse, imo.

I mean whatever reaches people, but her and her children's stories, coupled with the evidence at hand should be enough to say damn, this is f'd up.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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BigJazz
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2. "damn"
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4. "Can't watch that video of Big Pun pistol whipping your mama and"
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be cool with his glorification after that.


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17. "Good video. This wasn't news, but separating the artist from the art is ..."
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Fri Nov-10-17 12:49 PM by TheRealBillyOcean

          

tough.

But sadly enough, I've gotten pretty good at it.

Do I like Pun the person? Definitely not.

Do I still love him as a MC and his music? Yes.

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