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"AYDMF: "We must let go of the grudges from slavery" *swipe*"


  

          

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-slavery-reparations-white-supremacy-1107-20171106-story.html

Some time ago, a relative forged another family member’s will, causing a cousin, the rightful heir, to lose all. I did all that I could to right the wrong. Eventually, the crime was exposed and my cousin was able to come into his rightful inheritance. Even so, I never talked to the perpetrator again. Years later, I felt the offense as if it occurred yesterday.

One morning while having breakfast with my daughter, I asked my daughter for her opinion: How might I let go of this old grudge? With teenage insight, she said, “Don't dwell on it. Move on. That’ll do it.” I took note and forgave my relative in that moment. The resentment dissipated.

Around that time, I wanted to hang a portrait of Gen. George Washington kneeling in prayer at Valley Forge. I am a second cousin of the first president, seven times removed, and I am African-American. The image inspired me.

My daughter, however, erupted in outrage. All she could see was a slaveholder.

“He won the American Revolution,” I said.

“I don't care,” my daughter replied.

“He was the greatest president ever,” I rejoined.

“I'm only related to Washington because he raped someone,” she said.

I flatly said there was no evidence whatsoever Washington had laid a violent hand on any of our slave ancestors.

Nuance and complexity eluded my daughter. President Washington might grace our currency, adorn the National Mall and hang on the walls of the White House, but, no, not the wall of our home. In this matter, slaveholding alone mattered to my intelligent daughter.

The greatest threat to a healthy black culture and consciousness today is an inability to see beyond slaveholding.

When we carry resentments in our hearts over generations, these resentments hurt us. Dwelling on slaveholding creates a desire to get back at others, to lash out. One feels entitled to destroy institutions due to the original sin of slavery.

If one wants to see unresolved pain acting out, look no further than reparations rhetoric and Ta-Nehisi Coates, author of “Between the World and Me” and scribe of racial doom and gloom. Only unresolved pain can explain an unyielding focus on white supremacy. Passing along resentments to children, as Coates has done in his writings, scars the young. The resulting scars compel the impressionable to despise our country, our shared bond as countrymen. The pain flows from slavery and continues into infinity.

Slavery was far worse than anyone living can imagine. And that's the problem. We know slavery as a Hollywood production — “Roots,” “Twelve Years a Slave,” “Django Unchained.” Even the National Museum of African American History and Culture, while important, doesn't do slavery justice. Every American should read “American Slavery As It Is” by Theodore Weld. From cover to cover. Don't stop as you tremble. Once you close this book on slavery, you will feel bad for several days. I did. That is healthy. And when you come out the other side, you will feel peace, even gratitude that our country fought a war to end slaveholding. Thoughts of slavery will lose power over you.

Our task today is to live free of these atrocities in our minds. We shouldn’t forget the past. We should let go of old grudges from slavery. We simply move on as Americans and feel compassion for one another across the color line.

Our ancestors would want us to move on and live our lives to the fullest today. We dishonor our ancestors if we bring trials and tribulations from their times into our times. We disrespect our ancestors with limited and negative thinking, while living in the greatest country ever.

I give thanks every day that, on one snowy day in 1777, Gen. Washington prayed at Valley Forge. And that prayer gave Washington faith to carry on.

I can see beyond slaveholding.

W.F. Twyman Jr.

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Yeah, Black folk BEEN over slavery...
Nov 07th 2017
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Church!
Nov 08th 2017
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where is the Drop Squad when we need them?
Nov 07th 2017
2
I stopped reading at rationalizing rape
Nov 07th 2017
3
washington ripped the healthy teeth out of slaves
Nov 08th 2017
4
Dude sounds so proud too
Nov 08th 2017
5
His original version of this was it was a form of self-loathing for
Nov 08th 2017
6
Slept on the couch for 2 days? Dude sounds pathetic
Nov 08th 2017
8
what a clown. probably got white Jesus hanging up in the bathroom...
Nov 08th 2017
7
lol
Nov 08th 2017
11
type of clown who works in being related to Washington within
Nov 08th 2017
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      I bet he only carries ones too...
Nov 08th 2017
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           thats a whole lotta great great great grandaddies right there
Nov 08th 2017
23
where's the stfu button?
Nov 08th 2017
9
An for SEO's sake, W.F. Twyman Jr. is a clown on that Clarence Thomas
Nov 08th 2017
13
gotdamn that dude is an asshole
Nov 08th 2017
15
i used to try really hard to understand people like him
Nov 08th 2017
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He doesn't seem like he respects his pop, either
Nov 08th 2017
18
this dude...smh...
Nov 08th 2017
19
It's the life equivalent of the "nerdy black guy in HS" meme:
Nov 08th 2017
22
LOL!!! Damn...you right! never even picked up on that. DEEEEP...
Nov 08th 2017
25
Spite can be a hell of a motivator.
Nov 09th 2017
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nah, she's Black
Nov 08th 2017
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      I'd bet Dollars he ain't still married.
Nov 08th 2017
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      lol..damn, what the hell does that statement mean then??
Nov 08th 2017
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           one of her descendants was the first Black man on capital hill in 1870
Nov 08th 2017
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like...why? what is even the point of this article?
Nov 08th 2017
21
      to get a pat on the back from
Nov 08th 2017
27
I'll let go the "grudge" if wypipo let go everything they gained from it
Nov 08th 2017
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first they would have to admit benefit, and thats NEVER gonna happen
Nov 08th 2017
20
      Benefit? What about their tax burden, black-on-black crime...
Nov 08th 2017
24
fake news
Nov 09th 2017
31
let's jump him (c) Big Smoke Dogg
Nov 09th 2017
33

flipnile
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1. "Yeah, Black folk BEEN over slavery..."
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...it's all the shit that's happened since then (and still happening) that we're not over.

lol @ this dude hanging GW paintings in his house. My favorite "time machine" question has long been "If you and I were walking through Philadelphia in the late 1700s and saw GW, how do you think we'd be treated?"

  

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10. "Church!"
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>...it's all the shit that's happened since then (and still
>happening) that we're not over.

  

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2. "where is the Drop Squad when we need them?"
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fuck you.

  

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3. "I stopped reading at rationalizing rape"
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So... forcibly removing someone from their homeland and selling them into bondage...is courtship to this father of a young girl

FOH!

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4. "washington ripped the healthy teeth out of slaves"
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for his dentures.

he held slaves. PERIOD. full stop. thats enough right there.

tear down his memorial, rename all the schools and fuck him for life

  

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5. "Dude sounds so proud too"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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6. "His original version of this was it was a form of self-loathing for"
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black people to hate their slave owning ancestors.

http://hlrecord.org/2017/09/letter-to-the-editor-turning-point-of-self-loathing/
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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8. "Slept on the couch for 2 days? Dude sounds pathetic"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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7. "what a clown. probably got white Jesus hanging up in the bathroom..."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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11. "lol"
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12. "type of clown who works in being related to Washington within"
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5 minutes of meeting him.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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14. "I bet he only carries ones too..."
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how many great great great grandaddies do I owe you?





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23. "thats a whole lotta great great great grandaddies right there"
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9. "where's the stfu button?"
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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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13. "An for SEO's sake, W.F. Twyman Jr. is a clown on that Clarence Thomas"
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of throwing his sister under the bus.

http://www.stcroixreview.com/index.php/past-issues/item/85-another-black-woman

This was an interesting read because his life is similar in many regards, but very different in one important regard (my parents were professionals). I think that probably made a big difference in his apparent shame and rejection of blackness and embracing of whiteness.

So weird to see someone have so many of the same experiences and draw such vastly different conclusions.

I will admit though, there is something to his point about introvertedness.

More than that, what type of person could talk about their own sister like that?







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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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15. "gotdamn that dude is an asshole"
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why are so many lawyers assholes? lol

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16. "i used to try really hard to understand people like him"
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or at least, expose myself to their thoughts. but now, fuck em all. i just need to protect myself.

"Another Black Woman". Great. He can go to hell


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18. "He doesn't seem like he respects his pop, either"
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>More than that, what type of person could talk about their own
>sister like that?


His janitor pop that sacrificed to allow him the opportunities to be in the position that he's in now.


He has a point about introversion, but it's so mixed-in with all of his personal issues that it's too difficult to distill.

  

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19. "this dude...smh..."
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"That I married a Yalie from an Old Family and live minutes from the ocean in San Diego makes for a Hollywood story of poor boy makes good."

Is that code for I married a good white woman??


"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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22. "It's the life equivalent of the "nerdy black guy in HS" meme:"
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https://satanforce.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/why-cant-i-find-a-good-man.jpg

Dude got hurt somewhere in life (like we all do), but he carries around his hurt in a $20,000 luggage set with the price tag sill on.


Edit: Always makes me laugh that you can see the hurt on the "after" guy's face, meanwhile the woman in the cartoon is still smiling.

  

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25. "LOL!!! Damn...you right! never even picked up on that. DEEEEP..."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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32. "Spite can be a hell of a motivator."
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R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
Dec 29th 2009 - Dec 17th 2017

  

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26. "nah, she's Black"
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28. "I'd bet Dollars he ain't still married. "
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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29. "lol..damn, what the hell does that statement mean then??"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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30. "one of her descendants was the first Black man on capital hill in 1870"
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or some shit.

He prolly only married her because he could say that shit at bars in DC.

They met on capital hill too

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21. "like...why? what is even the point of this article?"
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27. "to get a pat on the back from"
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the readers of a "thoughtful journey for thoughtful people"


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17. "I'll let go the "grudge" if wypipo let go everything they gained from it"
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til then FOH dumbass.

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20. "first they would have to admit benefit, and thats NEVER gonna happen"
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24. "Benefit? What about their tax burden, black-on-black crime..."
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...etc.


^ I think that's the usual progression

  

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31. "fake news"
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whole story reads like a lie

  

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33. "let's jump him (c) Big Smoke Dogg"
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