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double negative
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"Shaun King....does it matter though?"


  

          

By matter I mean his blackness

I have not noticed much of a fuss from black folks or people of color but I have noticed a bit of a stink about his whole ambiguity to the point where anything he says is countered with

"Yeah but ol' Talcum X here ain't black so whats it matter?"

To the point where I guess the alt right went in and tried to get to the bottom of it all

Really though, I had no idea it was such a thing for some folks

Is he more Jay Smooth or Rachel We-Shall-Never-Say-Her-Name?

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It obviously matters because people keep bringing it up.
Nov 06th 2017
1
talcum x still cracks me the fuck up
Nov 06th 2017
2
i just laft out loud at Talcum X....thank you
Nov 06th 2017
3
Same here. People be marinatin on the wildest shit.
Apr 13th 2018
47
Talculm X! lmao
Nov 06th 2017
4
Talcum X? Bwahaha.
Nov 06th 2017
5
I'm confused by the questioning.
Nov 06th 2017
6
doesn't seem to be a situation about "confusing," it seems to be about
Nov 06th 2017
7
yeah it's weird
Nov 07th 2017
16
no, it doesnt.
Nov 06th 2017
8
/post
Nov 06th 2017
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      if it is "potent" with hilarity, whatever makes it "potent" can be
Nov 06th 2017
10
           you're not amused? cool.
Nov 06th 2017
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                this post was made because this situation keeps coming up
Nov 06th 2017
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I didn't know he was even half
Nov 06th 2017
11
He looks like that lite skin cousin who came to visit in the summer
Nov 06th 2017
12
my poor kids....
Nov 06th 2017
14
he blocked me on twitter so f*ck em lol
Nov 07th 2017
17
What’s the story?
Nov 07th 2017
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      i have 0 idea. i went back and checked all my old tweets
Nov 07th 2017
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We did this already.
Nov 07th 2017
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and yet....they cant get over this shit.
Nov 07th 2017
25
what happened to black lives matter?
Nov 07th 2017
21
I think the jury's still out
Nov 07th 2017
22
shit worked to perfection
Nov 07th 2017
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it is not and was not an organization.
Nov 07th 2017
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      is this the legit site? https://blacklivesmatter.com/
Nov 07th 2017
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      try twitter.
Nov 07th 2017
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      that's the genius of it...
Nov 07th 2017
30
      agreed.
Nov 07th 2017
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           Right. A police officer tried to sue BLM recently...
Nov 07th 2017
33
      see i thought they were a decentralized 'movement' too.
Nov 07th 2017
35
           i know nothing of a board of directors.
Nov 07th 2017
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I always felt this was a prime example of fake news
Nov 07th 2017
23
right? I can't see how anyone Black would question it
Nov 07th 2017
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agreed.
Nov 07th 2017
28
exactly. i used to go to church with him & i always though
Nov 07th 2017
34
that and I think they can't handle the truth
Nov 07th 2017
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Columnist Shaun King Detained at Airport and Questioned over Activism
Apr 13th 2018
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Homeland Security to compile database of journalists, media influencers
Apr 13th 2018
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bet he won't be allowed back in the states soon
Apr 13th 2018
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This is nuts.
Apr 13th 2018
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      Unfortunately...it's the best link/swipe I could find...it's not exactly
Apr 13th 2018
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           I dunno.
Apr 13th 2018
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                Yeah, he was targeted no doubt
Apr 13th 2018
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                     I've been to many more than 15 countries...
Apr 13th 2018
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Only racist white people care, non-issue. We know he black!
Apr 13th 2018
46

c71
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1. "It obviously matters because people keep bringing it up."
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Does it matter enough to stop him? Only if some family members do to him what Rachel Doezal's parents did to her.

If Shaun keeps his "position," then it only matters to those who will keep coming at him....but if Shaun is in the lineage of the Huey Newton's, Malcolm X's and H.Rap Brown's then he'll keep his thing up like all the other light-skin "over-achievers" (the kind that "over-achieve" in Black community leadership roles due to some "compensating-for-being-outsider" complex).

  

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2. "talcum x still cracks me the fuck up"
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but he is def half black though as far as i know. i thought his pops was black and then bounced on his mom.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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3. "i just laft out loud at Talcum X....thank you"
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47. "Same here. People be marinatin on the wildest shit. "
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4. "Talculm X! lmao"
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But Shain's black, as far as I'm concerned.
He's proven it to the best of his ability and what his ability isn't able to prove, his actions do.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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5. "Talcum X? Bwahaha. "
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What is the question again?

I thought that was covered already. I think some folks just use his skin tone to deflect from the light he shines on racism.

I got family members lighter than him too. We come in all shades.

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6. "I'm confused by the questioning."
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He's clearly uppercase B. Who would confuse him to be anything but, certainly no one who'd march in protest of a confederate statue's removal.

  

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7. "doesn't seem to be a situation about "confusing," it seems to be about"
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people don't think he is "genuine" because of the Rachel Doezal thing exists (people who want a position that they may not really "fit")


The "fitting" is either a Rachel Doezal "fake" thing, or "fitting" is "really 'light' is not 'fit' to lead the Black community" thing.

  

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16. "yeah it's weird"
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I don't get how this would still be a thing for anyone other than racist alt-right trolls attempts at character assassination.

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8. "no, it doesnt."
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i find peoples fascination with what he ‘is’ just as bizarre as you

  

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9. "/post"
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that talcum x sht is potent with hilarity tho. hope buddy can take a joke.

"It's the return of the gangsta, thanks ta..."

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10. "if it is "potent" with hilarity, whatever makes it "potent" can be"
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channeled into continuing to bringing this issue up over and over again.


"it's really funny, but....it really doesn't matter...or shouldn't matter.....(?)"

  

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13. "you're not amused? cool."
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anybody giving it much more thought than humor is wasting their emotional capital imo

conversion rate too low to go that hard

"It's the return of the gangsta, thanks ta..."

-du

  

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c71
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15. "this post was made because this situation keeps coming up"
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and.....


I doubt it keeps coming up just in a strictly "joking" manner.

  

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11. "I didn't know he was even half"
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Thought he was just caucasian

  

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12. "He looks like that lite skin cousin who came to visit in the summer"
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and pulled all the girls back in the day

We hated those dudes even tho they were actually cool.

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14. "my poor kids...."
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17. "he blocked me on twitter so f*ck em lol"
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18. "What’s the story? "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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20. "i have 0 idea. i went back and checked all my old tweets "
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where i mentioned him and i couldnt find sh*t that would be an issue. i def clowned him in real life tho multiple times so im kinda shook now lol

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19. "We did this already."
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It matters.

He Black.

It was settled.

fuck you.

  

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25. "and yet....they cant get over this shit. "
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21. "what happened to black lives matter?"
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is it me or do they not have the same prominent presence that they used to?

as far as shaun king goes...i assume he is black but idgaf either way. dude is a great husband/father to a black family and brings light to a lot of important issues.



  

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22. "I think the jury's still out"
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on whether or not they're infiltraitors.

we live in a $$$ world. it's existence and value are controlled by yt ppl. Thus how can anyone succeed w/o be aligned somewhere along their trek with an 'ally' that isn't their 'color' or ethnicity?

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24. "shit worked to perfection"
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for Trump..

we got played. I think the media got to them just like with the Kapernick kneeling thing.

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27. "it is not and was not an organization."
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it is not and was not going to be some agency like the NAACP. it is not and was not ever intended to be an institution.

it's not going to host charity dinners. and awards receptions. you won't see negroes in tuxedos and ball gowns walking down a red carpet w/#BLM printed on some white screen behind them w/cameras flashing and Solange hosting.

it's still what it was. an idea used to gather like minds for collective action when warranted.

if you think it has some use now then reach out. use it.

fuck you.

  

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29. "is this the legit site? https://blacklivesmatter.com/"
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just wondering where to go if one wanted to contact them directly.

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31. "try twitter."
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fuck you.

  

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30. "that's the genius of it..."
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32. "agreed."
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keep it as loose as possible to avoid becoming an actual target.

fuck you.

  

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33. "Right. A police officer tried to sue BLM recently..."
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The jusge said BLM is a movement and not an entity that can be sued.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/29/us/black-lives-matter-lawsuit.html

The BLM group in Tampa is somewhat active. I've been to a few rallys, meetings & protests but I'm not on the same page as them. I need to check in with the St. Pete arm.

  

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35. "see i thought they were a decentralized 'movement' too."
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with people like shaun king, deray, etc coming to the forefront (mostly via social media).

but then i caught the tail end of an interview with a group of women who i never seen or heard of before. and they were like the official black lives matters board of directors or some shit lol.

i got the impression there was an organic grassroots street level collective...and then some parallel organizational structure that kinda took the credit/reins.

  

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36. "i know nothing of a board of directors."
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i know it was 'founded' by a handful of black women.

fuck you.

  

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23. "I always felt this was a prime example of fake news"
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That nigga never looked white to me, on the best day the whitest level he ever hit with me was Puerto Rican. The whole militant Haitian side of my family are all Shaun King doubles.

Remember brietbart and milo sourced the original rumors

  

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26. "right? I can't see how anyone Black would question it"
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but I can definitely see how white folks who don't know Black people would think he was white. They prolly got a few in their fam who passing as well.

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28. "agreed."
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fuck you.

  

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34. "exactly. i used to go to church with him & i always though"
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he was either black or latino.

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37. "that and I think they can't handle the truth"
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38. "Columnist Shaun King Detained at Airport and Questioned over Activism"
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Black

http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article208547744.html

Updated April 11, 2018 03:56 AM

Shaun King is a controversial guy.

As an activist and journalist, he’s been prominent in the Black Lives Matter movement, defended the Palestinians, and attacked the Republican Party, On Monday, apparently as a result of his politics, King was briefly detained at JFK Airport by an agent of U.S. Customs and Border Patrol while returning home from Egypt.

In a series of tweets and a telephone interview, King described a “frustrating” and “weird” episode like something out of the “Twilight Zone.” He said he was approached by a customs official who pulled him out of line and took him down a white hall to a nondescript office. His wife, unwilling to be separated, came along, as did their children.

King said the agent first attempted to ply the children with small talk but that he, King, told his wife and kids “to not say a damn word.” According to King, the agent asked why they had visited Egypt- “traditional family vacation” was the reply - then inquired about King’s work with Black Lives Matter. He spoke in such a way, said King, that it became obvious he had “been reading my tweets and knew all about me.” And King said the agent made reference to his “case,” indicating that whatever this was was ongoing and longstanding.

Again, King might be controversial, but he’s no terrorist. Granted, some conservatives, citing uprisings in Baltimore and Ferguson and random cop shootings in Baton Rouge, New York City andDallas, are ever eager to conflate Black Lives Matter with violence. But that’s specious reasoning - like conflating the mainstream pro-life movement with violence because of deadly shootings and bombings by anti-abortion fanatics in Birmingham, Wichita, Colorado Springs, Brookline and Pensacola.

And anyway, CBP never accused King of terrorism. So, one is hard-pressed to explain what happened Monday as anything other than a clumsy attempt at political intimidation, the government’s unsubtle way of letting a critic know that Big Brother is watching. I asked a CPB spokesperson if the government is monitoring Black Lives Matter as a terrorist organization and how that squares with the First Amendment.

In response, I received a written statement which said in part: “Each traveler must present themselves to CBP for inspection in order to be admitted to the United States of America. This was a routine inspection typical of daily operations at our ports of entry across the nation. CBP treats all international travelers with integrity, respect and professionalism while keeping the highest standards of security.”

Bad enough the statement did not address the questions I posed. But...“routine”?! Is this kind of thing really routine?

All I can say is that I’ve traveled to 13 countries and it’s never happened to me. A friend who’s journeyed to 25 countries said she’s never experienced anything like it. Another,who’s been to over a hundred countries, thought it outrageous. And King himself told me that he understands random and routine screenings, but “This was not that.”

It certainly doesn’t sound like it. Indeed, one feels the ragged breath of authoritarianism moving the hairs at the nape of the neck. One hears George Orwell whispering, “I told you so.”

Some people will think King’s politics justify what happened. But short of calling for or engaging in violence, nobody’s politics justify it. Sure, he’s a controversial guy, but guess what? In America, you have that right. What happened Monday should induce us to remember just how important our rights are.

And how fragile they can be.

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39. "Homeland Security to compile database of journalists, media influencers"
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/homeland-security-seeks-media-monitoring-services-for-journalists-media-influencers/

  

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41. "bet he won't be allowed back in the states soon"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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40. "This is nuts."
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And *ugh* at the writer continuously calling him 'controversial.' FOH.

  

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42. "Unfortunately...it's the best link/swipe I could find...it's not exactly"
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making headlines

in addition to the 'controversial' moniker, I'll also add

I have been stopped by customs

both times in Canada

once, the agent thought I lied when he asked me a question

he asked me something about my criminal history

which I didn't think I had

but, a disorderly conduct charge from when I was 19Y.O. is still on my record

I didn't think it would be, because I wasn't arrested, it was just a citation

the other, because I was frustrated at how long the line was to get through customs and the agent didn't like my demeanor

the f'n line started at the jet bridge, I kid you not

we couldn't even deplane

just saying, I don't think it's that out of the realm to be pulled out of line if you're a frequent traveler

...but they obviously targeted King here...

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43. "I dunno."
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I am a frequent traveler. I travel overseas several times a year and within North America many more times than that and I have never been stopped/detained by customs.

This isn't routine at all and is some complete bullshit. He was targeted. Full stop.

  

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44. "Yeah, he was targeted no doubt"
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I was just offering my personal experience with international travel

I think the author said something like 23 years, 15 countries, etc...

Just saying...I'm at about half that...and I've been stopped twice

but I agree, he was definitely targeted.

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45. "I've been to many more than 15 countries..."
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... and I've never been stopped. Let's stop giving air time to the alternative narrative here b/c it's bullshit.

  

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46. "Only racist white people care, non-issue. We know he black!"
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Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
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