I'm currently looking to transition out of my current position.

We're a small department and our company is cheap so not only can I not advance but I'm also underpaid compared to people who do the same job as me.

I had gotten a great interview for one of the Top 3 tech companies in the world. I interviewed w/ 5 managers in one day at their campus. I looked great, felt great and at the end of it I felt like it was the best interviews I've ever given. I asked great questions and gave great answers. After it was over I wrote great, personal thank yous.

I finally found out today, after 2 weeks of waiting, that they went with another candidate.

I'm crushed because I was really excited about the job AND it would have been a life-altering increase in salary at a time when my wife is unemployed and we are starting to get into dangerous territory with the amount of money we have available.

I mean, I guess I just keep plugging away. Thank them for the opportunity and tell them to keep me in mind for the next opening.

I dunno. I'm just bummed and needed to vent. But, if anyone has tangible advice for this situation or job hunting in general, I'd be happy to take it.

...working for myself.

FUCK job hunting. It's a huge catch-22 for me in many ways. I scare the fuck out of some people, make other people extremely nervous. Makes it hard to develop rapport. Hard to be confident when your confidence is seen as aggression or arrogance.

Shit sucks, bruh. I remember ACING interviews, then... nothing. My advice to to not take it personally, keep plugging away but start looking at the big picture. Do you want to have to go through another job hunt again in the future? I sure don't.

my passions into $$$.

haven't come up with anything yet but haven't given up either.

that's good advice because, yes, being your own boss is fantastic and not having to rely on that corporate "hand out" so to speak is even better.

i'mma keep grinding. no other choice to be honest, lol.

i might have told my story before

but about 5 years ago I was in a tight position and I interviewed at paypal

6 hour interview
1 hour test

thought I was really doing it up.

took a damn 1.5 hour train ride each way.

did not get the job.

but the crazy thing is that a good 6 months after everything settled I randomly ran into one of the hiring managers while on break from my retail job at the time. Bruh. I had the shirt and nametag on and everything.

Dude straight up said "Broh! You interviewed so well, we really liked you, but as corporate moves go the role AND the department died on the vine before we could do anything...if you had gotten the job you would have been in a bad place, like, no more job or shuffling bad"


That put everything into perspective...I know things are tight but it made me realize that everything has a time and a place. It also make me tighten up.

Have you considered having a panel review with fellow friends? Have them all be super duper brutally honest about you and your work. It will sting a bit but its the only way to go from 0 to 100 real quick. (not suggesting you are zero, suggesting that we could all use polish)

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yeah, i try to be that "everything happens for a reason" guy too and I usually am. just raw right now.

i'll get my mind right sooner than later.

a little peer review couldn't hurt. that's good advice.

i have a love hate relationship with recruiters
but the last place I worked with not only got me in front of a ton of people but I was literally off the market for 2 weeks before they placed me in a perm position with a big jump in pay

they do work

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a couple recruiters have taken my resume and whatnot for some jobs they thought i might be a fit for, but nothing serious.

and not all recruiters work the same subindustries

i just had a talk with a place that ONLY focused on finance

I'm also opening up talks with places that are more boutique

shop around.

you are the talent.

and there is way way WAY more money on the table than you would even begin to imagine.

best/craziest story I recall was through a friend who was a senior team member . he was being paid 65 an hour but after a no no talk with his onsite boss it was revealed that they were paying 240 an hour for the guy meaning the recruiter was taking a FUCKLOAD Off the top. Long story short, they fixed that shit and dude is caking.

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the job was at a tech company.

i'm an accountant.

I bet there are even recruiters who focus on placing accountants in tech companies, I mean, if thats your jam.

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Some of it may have been attributed to straight up racial shit that happens in law firms as I never got a straight answer why, just that I "didn't give them enough" or whatever. I had to honestly, look at the tape and see what I may have done wrong. I got with my mentors and asked them for some coaching up and it helped a lot. I really had to change the way I interview and prepare for the higher level positions I was going after - going from a conversation of "worker" to one of "leader". You'll get there, just gotta sharpen your skills and leave no doubt.

Streets won't let me chill.

I'm bout to reapply after 3 years to my dream job and was bummed like you after the first time. 3 years later and they are still looking. I know if they interview me again it's a wrap. I'll pray for you, please pray for me.

Taking shots in the dark/that's a bad call
Going straight for your head/ gotta saw it off

thank you.

i'm overall 0-6 in the last two months of where i least began a phone interview (two of them being the final round).

it's def a punch to the gut when you walk outta the building saying, "damn, i aced the shit outta that interview", and then.... REJECTION.

i actually took to glassdoor to leave negative feedback about another company, where the hiring manager had changed the job description, but didn't repost it. so it felt like a curveball when i phone screened. she also said their #1 candidate had backed out of an offer two days before his start date because his current company made a counter. she said she was bummed 'cause she wasn't given the chance to counter the counter.

so tacky to disclose that.

also, i just roll my eyes now when i see "diversity" plastered on the corp's website, then i walk in the building as an SFDC-certified/fully-qualified candidate, yet see the least diverse group of people for miles (unless you consider white women satisfying 100% of "inclusion initiatives), and then get the rejection or never hear back anyone. welcome to silicon valley.

it can feel frustrating and a waste of time to go through a process --- especially how many incompetent (tech) recruiters are out there now --- but you gotta keep it moving, bro. something gon stick.

and it's funny like you know when you're first out of college and there's a job and sometimes your trying to make your resume fit the job. well this job listing looked like my resume legitimately.

so, there was that. then i have one phone interview on a Monday with their recruite. 2nd interview was with the hiring mgr that same week on Friday. i was on campus for the in persons a week later.

so, shit was just rolling so quick i'm like "damn, they must want me" then i crush the interviews and i'm thinking i'm good money. i mean, they say there's always someone better and its usually true and it's fine.

i'm just butthurt right now. it'll heal.

thanks g.

I don't mean "new black" either

its like you have to toe the line between being Ta Nehesi "let me tell you about yourself" Coates and Baratunde Thurston with a bit of Neil DeGrasse Tyson thrown in

black and palatable

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you only need to be successful once.

I had been trying to get into HR all my life but my exp was in legal. I finally got an HR interview, thought i nailed it, waited 3 weeks and didn't get the job.

After interviewing me, they realized i was a perfect fit for another position they were in the process of creating. The hired me a few weeks later for what has become my dream job.

Keep ya head (and your confidence) up.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

But, I believe if it's for you, it's for you...

I can't believe how fortunate I've been not to get some jobs. You never know what is coming around the corner.

But you have to remain confident in your abilities. Never let it shake you...

If you've got some skills, it won't take too long for someone to realize it.

I was in a situation where my job was going away due to budget issues. Not my problem. But, once I realized that I was as skilled as I am...I realized that even if I was done there, I wouldn't be unemployed for long.

You're such pests...now, what is it you want? In your depths of your ignorance, what is it you want? Well, whatever it is you want, I can't deliver because I just don't see it. - Orson Welles


Never Tired, Always Sleepy

He's been there for almost 10 years and the company takes recommendations (I was recommended by 3 different people) from current employees over outside hiring.

The position was in my field - I had experience in everything they wanted except the title itself, the manager even told me to my face that he 'really liked me and what I had to offer'. Turned out they hired another recommended person mostly based on job relation. Turns out her husband worked more closely with the department of the open position then my husband did.

I was pissed and couldn't believe that she was more qualified than me. I had my girlfriend look in the company directory and get her name. I stalked her on Facebook and found out she didn't qualify for shit. It was all based on her husband's relationship with the hiring manager and job relation.

When I get rejected, I usually send an email asking what factors disqualified me and do they have any advice for me moving forward. If you have the specific email address of one of your interviewers, then I would ask them. If the rejection notification came from a generic email then don't bother. I find that often times I'll get a response back. You never know and it's doesn't hurt to ask.

Just keep pushing and something will come soon.

about 3 years ago I went through 4 rounds of interviews over a couple weeks for one job only to lose out in the last round.

the job was entirely in my wheelhouse and realistically they would have been lucky to get someone with as much experience as me (I practically wrote the book on it)

I was devastated because the last round of interviews really felt like a victory lap/formality...

it wash a totally crushing experience that hit me in my soul... I turned to folk here and higher powers I never used to believe in at all to find my way out of the hell hole I found myself in... amazingly it worked and with a little work I found my way out and into an even better situation.

probably misspelled/typo-ed something in the interview too. *sigh*

Top 3 tech firm. Bunch of interviews, was close to the end. Just went different route.

here is the thing. Those places tend to have high turnover. The average tenure at a place like Google is 2.5 years because people move onward and upward.

A few months later she got a call from another recruiter at that firm because her name was in the system. Been there ever since.

Keep grinding.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>I had gotten a great interview for one of the Top 3 tech
>companies in the world. I interviewed w/ 5 managers in one day
>at their campus. I looked great, felt great and at the end of
>it I felt like it was the best interviews I've ever given. I
>asked great questions and gave great answers. After it was
>over I wrote great, personal thank yous.
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Can you apply at tech giants ,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,etc?

if you're resume garnered that level attention from the one in the top 3 I bet you'd be a great candidate at the others too.

I'd work at Bing for the right dough

Keep strong - it *is* demoralizing. It's the wait that gets me.

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hit them up thank them for their time and see if you can get some feedback.

Let them know you were super excited about the opportunity, etc. and see if they can offer advice/feedback on what you could do to be a stronger candidate next time around. Also see if there are other opportunities or jobs that would be a good for you on the horizon. They might know of some stuff coming up or in other departments, etc.

Sometimes the ultimate decision doesn't really have shit to do with the actual interview, because they might be hiring/promoting internally, and just interviewing outside candidates to double check. Sounds like you were close, regardless, so they liked something about what you offered.

Keep grinding and be open to whatever opportunities come your way. Good luck, man.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

Both the wife and I are going through it right now.

We both have jobs but we aren’t where we need to be.

We are used to getting hired when we interview so now it’s like “wtf? Is cause I’m black, my age, my interview, etc?

Last place said it was neck and neck but they went with the other guy. The commute was far so I wasn’t too upset.

I took a break for a few weeks but I need to get back on it.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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I shouldn't have been interviewing at the time. I was still fucked up from losing my mom but my money was getting tight and I know I couldn't mope and grieve forever.

My worst interview, I lost because I didn't study or approach the job with any kind of interest. It was supposed be 2 morning interviews, lunch, then 2 afternoon interviews. We sat down and talked about my resume, everything looked great. Then I did some whiteboard coding problems. They walked me out after lunch. I took the bus home at 1pm.

That fired my ass up for my Tuesday interview, which was followed by a Friday job offer.

when I opened up my portfolio half my work was missing. Apparently I left it at home on the table. I printed a few new pieces and somehow didn't put it together properly. That threw me off my game and from there it went downhill. In my phone interview they raved about one particular piece and I left it out.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

>when I opened up my portfolio half my work was missing.
>Apparently I left it at home on the table. I printed a few new
>pieces and somehow didn't put it together properly. That threw
>me off my game and from there it went downhill. In my phone
>interview they raved about one particular piece and I left it
>out.

Yeah for me they were raving about my resume .. freelance clients I had, that I went to CMU, etc

Then my performance on the whiteboard did nothing to back those up.

On some schadenfreude, that company went under in Jan 2016 so I wouldn't have even made it a full year there. Blessings in disguise. That interview did fuck up my ego though. Just the right amount.

went on the first interview in July. Didn't hear anything back, then around early Sept, they ask me for another with the big bosses.When I get there, I had to wait 30 min for one of the ppl. Not a big deal but nerve wrecking. however, we hit it off, and we chat and I find out he's from my hometown. we have a great convo so he gives me tips for the next person. so while i'm waiting for her, i google info to use. meet her, and it's a good interview, not the best. she does question why i have so many short term jobs and i explain that i have been at my job for 5 years but i worked many grant funded positions prior which were shorter in duration. she asks me to explain some things about my research and i forget a word ("coercion") so that was a knock at me. however, when she asks me my interest, i name a new field in PH and she says she just got a grant to do research in that field. so now i'm like we are hitting it off. this is so great. blah blah blah.

last week i get an email that they are going to continue the hunt for a candidate. WOW. the HR person has brought me in to interview for 2 other positions besides this one, one i turned down after the first interview and the other they hired internally. he is still trying to get me in so he keeps telling me to apply but shit, that hurt so bad .

You can't control why someone else makes decisions for their business, there's so many factors whether good or bad. You just gotta keep it moving and know your worth and what you bring to the table, the more you get down about the last rejection the more you project it setting up for the next one. I try to only care about what I can control
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mind for something else.

My current job I thought I did great on all the interviews then at the end the hiring manager called me directly and told me they were going with someone else but they would probably have another position opening up soon and he would "keep me in mind" I thought it was bullshit but sure as shit 6 months later he called me and offered me a job.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

position in mind for me...i thought they were bsing but they called me about 2 weeks later.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

I’m flourishing and never been happier
Long story short...if possible, keep more then one iron in the fire.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

*shrugs* K.I.M.