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"Marriage is for educated, middle class people (NYTimes)"
Tue Oct-03-17 10:08 AM by Triptych

          

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/upshot/how-did-marriage-become-a-mark-of-privilege.html?smid=tw-share

Women, meanwhile, have learned from watching a generation of divorce that they need to be able to support themselves. And many working-class women aren’t interested in taking responsibility for a man without a job.

“They say, ‘If he’s not offering money or assets, why make it legal?’ ” said June Carbone, a law professor at the University of Minnesota and the author with Naomi Cahn of “Marriage Markets: How Inequality Is Remaking the American Family.”


Marriage is a dying institution unless two people really really want that legal binding agreement.


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and having children is for????
Oct 02nd 2017
1
Single Women? Gay couples? People who want them
Oct 02nd 2017
6
thank you :-)
Oct 02nd 2017
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I don't buy the researcher's predictions or stas
Oct 02nd 2017
7
      this it right here...
Oct 02nd 2017
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           I don't think folks generally approach
Oct 03rd 2017
45
                if God is not the foundation it will be viewed as a business n/m
Oct 03rd 2017
51
                     what does god have to do
Oct 03rd 2017
52
                          He defines what it means to love your spouse...
Oct 03rd 2017
54
                               nah, the people do that.
Oct 03rd 2017
56
                                    I totally get what you're saying...
Oct 03rd 2017
59
                                         right on.
Oct 03rd 2017
61
Definitely seen this coming....it's gonna ramp up even more very very
Oct 02nd 2017
3
Marriage is for women. I see very few benefits for myself.
Oct 02nd 2017
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especially when it's framed like the article
Oct 02nd 2017
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Marriage the union is dope. Marriage the laws are wack
Oct 02nd 2017
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      What's the common law status in America?
Oct 06th 2017
69
^^^^
Oct 02nd 2017
8
Sounds like you might be fucking with the wrong women.
Oct 02nd 2017
10
Could you two have built that without marriage?
Oct 02nd 2017
11
The legal document makes it harder to leave... lol
Oct 02nd 2017
14
I don't remember any legal documents to be honest.
Oct 02nd 2017
18
come through Buddy...
Oct 02nd 2017
33
Depends on the relationship.
Oct 02nd 2017
25
#9
Oct 02nd 2017
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The formality is to say, "no matter what, I got you boo".
Oct 02nd 2017
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      My homey told me this EXACT thing 20 years ago:
Oct 02nd 2017
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^^^ What he said
Oct 06th 2017
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and that ain't even worth it as long as you can claim a dependent lol
Oct 02nd 2017
12
Marriage is supposed to extend men's lives. I know I've read the
Oct 02nd 2017
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This is true. I read the same thing. We get a few extra years
Oct 02nd 2017
19
I could see married men having more consistent health & hygiene standard...
Oct 03rd 2017
50
Tax break, lol
Oct 02nd 2017
22
Marriage could also be a means for poorer people to raise educated
Oct 02nd 2017
13
i'm cool with this
Oct 02nd 2017
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marriage is for ppl who want to live on a pedastal.
Oct 02nd 2017
21
this put a smile on my face...thank you
Oct 02nd 2017
24
i was watching some documentary on OWN
Oct 02nd 2017
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Which reminds me, I'm gonna need your adulation token for the week
Oct 02nd 2017
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i just skipped my aunt and uncles 50th anniversary shindig.
Oct 02nd 2017
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Cause non-married people don't like to feel special.
Oct 02nd 2017
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good for you and y'all.
Oct 02nd 2017
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nah, we just like rings and shit. sue us.
Oct 02nd 2017
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or...it's for people with healthy (or traditional) ideas about love?
Oct 02nd 2017
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You're always on some extra weird woe-is-me type shit
Oct 02nd 2017
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lol
Oct 03rd 2017
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naw I just despise you ppl.
Oct 03rd 2017
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      but since you can't burn it all down..
Oct 03rd 2017
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      ...
Oct 03rd 2017
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      so YOU despise people and their way of life...
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      naw, i don't really care that much.
Oct 03rd 2017
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           Sure you don’t...
Oct 03rd 2017
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      I Googled and heterophobia is a thing I guess. so is trolling though
Oct 03rd 2017
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           whichever one allows you to clutch the pearls with less intensity.
Oct 03rd 2017
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                Bwahaha
Oct 04th 2017
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Everybody wants to feel special
Oct 03rd 2017
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Definitely.
Oct 03rd 2017
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this is the kind of mad making I aspire to
Oct 03rd 2017
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The secret is to not believe any of it.
Oct 03rd 2017
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most people i know that got married just did it cause you're "supposed t...
Oct 03rd 2017
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      solid
Oct 03rd 2017
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RE: Marriage is for educated, middle class people
Oct 03rd 2017
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RE: Marriage is for educated, middle class people
Oct 03rd 2017
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RE: Marriage is for educated, middle class people
Oct 03rd 2017
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Wow. Like, where I grew up in Gardena....only 2-3 of the dads on the
Oct 03rd 2017
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      a house for 150K in the 1980's sounds high as fuck b
Oct 03rd 2017
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      L.A. is different. As they say, "six miles from the ocean"
Oct 04th 2017
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      RE: Wow. Like, where I grew up in Gardena....only 2-3 of the dads on the
Oct 03rd 2017
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           Same with San Pedro
Oct 04th 2017
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1. "and having children is for???? "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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6. "Single Women? Gay couples? People who want them"
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I don't know if children and marriage go hand in hand anymore.

I think choosing to be a parent is something that has intrinsic value. No matter how poor or rich, one has to look at their lives and be comfortable with the idea of adding another mouth to the mix.

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2. "thank you :-)"
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when I read stuff like this I start thinking that we have lost all faith in each other. fuck that tho....

let me get my thoughts together first...




  

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7. "I don't buy the researcher's predictions or stas"
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I think money is a big factor for men asking women to get married. But I honestly don't think many people find it necessary anymore.

I am a single mother, with a good income and the only thing I wish I had was a more involved father. Would that have come through marriage? Possibly, but there is no guarantee.

I also made more than all the men I dated so legally marrying them would be a big financial risk.

Two people need to define love and family for themselves.

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34. "this it right here..."
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>Two people need to define love and family for themselves.

Where are you on love?

like. Many of these replies presupposes that marriage will fail. I believe we shouldn't go in thinking that. When you love someone those thoughts don't even cross your mind. I often wonder if I'm crazy or if it's others, lol. Because that feeling of love can't be described. Denying yourself, totally selfless...think about the relationship between a parent and child. Then imagine that kind of relationship with your mate. I was robbed of it once and It's been hard to forget it but, I will forever chase down being in love again.

I get there's a lot of illusions...
deflections

the problem is choice (c)

  

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45. "I don't think folks generally approach"
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their own marriages will fail. however, none of us are immune to it and have to realize that it is a reality that many face.

that love feeling is fantastic. no argument on that. just can't be blinded by it because there are so many aspects to relationships in addition to love. marriage us ultimately a business (as in doing things together, resource and time wise) partnership. if the business part starts declining, the love will tend to follow.

but if your shit is falling, its easy to recognize. that's if you care to work on the relationship.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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51. "if God is not the foundation it will be viewed as a business n/m"
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52. "what does god have to do"
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with loving your spouse?

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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54. "He defines what it means to love your spouse..."
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what it looks like
feel like
suppose to be like...


  

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56. "nah, the people do that."
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regardless of what the spiritual/religious leanings are, the people define the relationship.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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59. "I totally get what you're saying..."
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and it makes sense why you believe marriage is business. I wholeheartedly disagree tho

  

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61. "right on."
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just for clarity, marriage isn't only a business. but its a huge component, along with all the mushy stuff lol.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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3. "Definitely seen this coming....it's gonna ramp up even more very very"
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soon

especially for bw

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4. "Marriage is for women. I see very few benefits for myself."
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I'd get a tax break. That's about it.

  

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5. "especially when it's framed like the article"
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Mon Oct-02-17 02:40 PM by legsdiamond

          

but if you find the right person it's a pretty awesome union.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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9. "Marriage the union is dope. Marriage the laws are wack"
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Actually has me in a conundrum, because I'm warming up the the idea of marrying my SO, but I don't want the .gov or anyone else all up in my paper. I'm really worried about being able to leave things to my son if anything happens to me, and my SO is not my son's mom, so...

  

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69. "What's the common law status in America?"
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Does it vary much from state to state?

In Canada....after living together for one year you are considered common law and all the same rules apply as if you are effectively married in terms of family court (alimony, seperation settlements, etc).

From what people are posting...it sounds like Marraige entails more legal ramifications than simply shacking up with someone.

  

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8. "^^^^"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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10. "Sounds like you might be fucking with the wrong women. "
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A good woman builds you up and makes you feel on top of the world.

I'm twice the person I would be without marriage.




>I'd get a tax break. That's about it.
>


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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11. "Could you two have built that without marriage?"
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What about the legal document changes the relationship?

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14. "The legal document makes it harder to leave... lol"
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I mean, there are definitely some people who do it without a marriage but IMO I think it's much easer for folks to bounce when you aren't married.

For me, it was my vow/promise to my wife that I would never leave her and always be there to take care of our family.

We both come from divorced households as well. It's the main reason it took so long for me to pop the question.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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18. "I don't remember any legal documents to be honest. "
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It's the declaration to everyone you know, god, family and the government that makes it a big deal.



>What about the legal document changes the relationship?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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33. "come through Buddy... "
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that's the foundation. without something solid to stand on a marriage is destined to fail. Marriage is intended so that men and women can become one. He gives life to her and she give life to the world. Folks make mockery of it tho. It's not just for convenience! Life has little value if men are to go their way and women go about theirs. Nah, we complete each other. We need each other.

If God is not the foundation my point is moot


  

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25. "Depends on the relationship. "
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15. "#9"
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Mon Oct-02-17 03:22 PM by flipnile

          

Probably should have clarified in my initial post. My beef with marriage are the laws, not the union.

SO and I and working on our fifth year right now. We live together. I'm mostly there, except for the formality.

  

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17. "The formality is to say, "no matter what, I got you boo". "
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Taa Taas may sag, and there will always be some younger broad out there, but no matter what, I am willing to go before family, god, the law and say I am promising to stick by your side.

one thing to tell a girl in the bed or just when you are alone. Whole nother thing to make that declaration to a whole room of people and the government.

Contracts are real.

>Probably should have clarified in my initial post. My beef
>with marriage are the laws, not the union.
>
>SO and I and working on our fifth year right now. We live
>together. I'm mostly there, except for the formality.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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23. "My homey told me this EXACT thing 20 years ago:"
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>Whole nother thing to make that declaration to a whole
>room of people and the government.


He was breaking down how the social aspect of marriage is one of the "glues" of a strong marriage..

I probably should start researching the legal stuff. marriage *has* come up in a few conversations recently.

  

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68. "^^^ What he said"
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>A good woman builds you up and makes you feel on top of the
>world.
>
>I'm twice the person I would be without marriage.

- - - Begin Sig. - - -

"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that little voice at the end of the day that says, 'I'll try again tomorrow.'" ~ ~ Anne Radmacher

  

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12. "and that ain't even worth it as long as you can claim a dependent lol"
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16. "Marriage is supposed to extend men's lives. I know I've read the "
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stats before, but I don't feel like looking for them now. Something about married men living a few years longer than unmarried.

  

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19. "This is true. I read the same thing. We get a few extra years"
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50. "I could see married men having more consistent health & hygiene standard..."
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>stats before, but I don't feel like looking for them now.
>Something about married men living a few years longer than
>unmarried.

Just having a woman around to nag you into going to the doctor probably buys you some extra time.

  

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22. "Tax break, lol"
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My wife and I owe a grip, but its our fault for various reasons that I sometimes don't mind.

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13. "Marriage could also be a means for poorer people to raise educated"
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, middle class kids. Two incomes is better than one. Yeah I wouldn't marry no broke negro either.


>https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/upshot/how-did-marriage-become-a-mark-of-privilege.html?smid=tw-share
>
>Women, meanwhile, have learned from watching a generation of
>divorce that they need to be able to support themselves. And
>many working-class women aren’t interested in taking
>responsibility for a man without a job.
>
>“They say, ‘If he’s not offering money or assets, why
>make it legal?’ ” said June Carbone, a law professor at
>the University of Minnesota and the author with Naomi Cahn of
>“Marriage Markets: How Inequality Is Remaking the American
>Family.”
>
>
>Marriage is a dying institution unless two people really
>really want that legal binding agreement.
>
>
>


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20. "i'm cool with this"
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21. "marriage is for ppl who want to live on a pedastal."
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Mon Oct-02-17 04:04 PM by SoWhat

  

          

they want to feel special.

above the rest of us.

that's why so many of them clutched pearls when states started giving out licenses to same sex couples. b/c suddenly they were on the same plane with...those ppl. and plenty of them still can't handle that.

that's what it showed me. married ppl like feeling special.

like there's something special about committing to someone else 'forever' knowing you can get out of it when you want (no fault divorce exists in all 50 states, player).

it's not that special.

well, i know your god tells you it is. so good for you.

but whatever.

fuck you.

  

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24. "this put a smile on my face...thank you"
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27. "i was watching some documentary on OWN"
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where a bunch of married ppl were talking about their relationships. and it was cute.

but in the end it was clear. there was a hierarchy. the longer married the higher the status.

and i saw it all by then.

them niggas really think they special.

for what?

fuck you.

  

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26. "Which reminds me, I'm gonna need your adulation token for the week"
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Pay me what you owe.
Didn't tell us happy anniversary or nothing.

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28. "i just skipped my aunt and uncles 50th anniversary shindig."
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wtf i care for?

i mean, 'yay'.

for what?

ppl who've been together 50 years w/o the license - can they get the same party?

why?

pssh.

fuck you.

  

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29. "Cause non-married people don't like to feel special. "
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30. "good for you and y'all. "
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i don't think it deserves special treatment.

fuck you.

  

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31. "nah, we just like rings and shit. sue us. "
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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32. "or...it's for people with healthy (or traditional) ideas about love?"
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weddings are for people who want to feel special, sure.
*marriage* is for people who want to try beating the statistic and maintaining that highest level of commitment

maybe some people are showoffs and extra about it, but I dont know any married couples like that (okp knew about my engagement and then one day I was just married with no announcement), people put their family lives with spouses and kids on display the same way they would if they were single

"marriage is for people who want to feel special" sounds a little insecure, like *eyeroll* "who do they think they are being so happy?"

  

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35. "You're always on some extra weird woe-is-me type shit"
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40. "lol"
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42. "naw I just despise you ppl."
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And your institutions. Your way of life. Your choices. What you prize. What you love.

I'd burn it all if only I could.

fuck you.

  

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46. "but since you can't burn it all down.. "
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https://media.giphy.com/media/PHHnS232TuS4M/source.gif

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48. "..."
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http://25.media.tumblr.com/6f05a0e7781ddd689069eaddbf4a4d92/tumblr_mszelfW1951s78xdco1_500.gif

fuck you.

  

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53. "so YOU despise people and their way of life..."
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Isn’t that funny.

  

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55. "naw, i don't really care that much."
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fuck you.

  

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63. "Sure you don’t..."
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My first point remains.

  

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57. "I Googled and heterophobia is a thing I guess. so is trolling though"
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RE: naw I just despise you ppl.
>And your institutions. Your way of life. Your choices. What
>you prize. What you love.
>
>I'd burn it all if only I could.

  

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58. "whichever one allows you to clutch the pearls with less intensity."
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I don't want you to hurt yourself.

fuck you.

  

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65. "Bwahaha"
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36. "Everybody wants to feel special "
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but if that is all the marriage is based on it probably won't last.

dude

  

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41. "Definitely."
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it's not the only reason many ppl get married but it's one of them.

fuck you.

  

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43. "this is the kind of mad making I aspire to "
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44. "The secret is to not believe any of it."
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And I don't. Lol

Everything I said in here is fiction. Why give OKP my true feelings? For assholes to shit on? Lol.

I just make up shit and ride with it.

fuck you.

  

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47. "most people i know that got married just did it cause you're "supposed t..."
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i love being married but i also loved being in a relationship with my wife before we were married, just as much. literally nothing changed for us after marriage outside of some legal or tax sh*t, which had 0 to do with our decision. we literally got married b/c you're "supposed to". of course, we never discussed it that way (we're not THAT unromantic) but, in retrospect, that's clearly the case. we had been together 10 years, love each other and we wanted a party. and for people to get off our backs lol

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49. "solid"
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fuck you.

  

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37. "RE: Marriage is for educated, middle class people "
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Factory workers ballin out buying houses and having 2.5 kids and a muscle car for 50k is a wrap...

Gotta stop romanticizing that era.. in the scheme of us history it wasnt even 20% of the timeline and human history.. shit a blip

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38. "RE: Marriage is for educated, middle class people "
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>Factory workers ballin out buying houses and having 2.5 kids
>and a muscle car for 50k is a wrap...
>
>Gotta stop romanticizing that era.. in the scheme of us
>history it wasnt even 20% of the timeline and human history..
>shit a blip


yeah, I don't think people have that proper perspective that the post war boom that built the middle class was not the norm for u.s. history,

dude

  

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39. "RE: Marriage is for educated, middle class people "
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Peoples perspective on large swaths of time is poor anyway

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60. "Wow. Like, where I grew up in Gardena....only 2-3 of the dads on the"
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ENTIRE block had a college degree. Most were blue collar....train/bus workers, mechanics, all that...and they ALLLL owned their houses. Bought them in the 70's and 80's for like the $130,000-$180,000 range. I know some who never made more than $35,000-$40,000 in their highest salary year, but they all got amazing retirement benefits.

Now, all of us who are their kids, who have degrees and much higher paying jobs, can't afford to live in that area at alllllllll, because it's way too expensive. It's not even like it's nicer or like it's developed and turned into Baldwin Hills!

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62. "a house for 150K in the 1980's sounds high as fuck b"
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66. "L.A. is different. As they say, "six miles from the ocean""
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I just looked up my parents house, and yeah, they paid $159,000 in 1988...but it hit $650,000 in value in 2006. So yea, houses were 140K-160K back in the 80's out here.

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64. "RE: Wow. Like, where I grew up in Gardena....only 2-3 of the dads on the"
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Yup how much of LBC is longshoreman

but that 30 years and a pension died wth the 401k... and the 401k will die because you can make everyone an independent contractor ...

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67. "Same with San Pedro"
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Hawthorne, Lawndale, and the list keep going. So much of that in LA was Aerospace and Shipping money. Blue collar folks working those jobs and living good. worse thing I ever did was falling into my parents bullshit trap of taking a public sector job.

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