1. "Obama is clearly not a good voice for black people..." In response to Reply # 0
seeing as that he did NOTHING about the police brutality situation when it was happening on his watch.
As for Shannon in the realm of entertainment he has a good mind for social issues and can articulate his points well while remaining consistent. I wonder how much longer he will be able to keep speaking on these issues before the network tells him to chill.
28. "I'm gonna check out the show." In response to Reply # 22
I never really watched because of Skip from his time with Screaming A and Shannon on CBS, but I know based on the clips that I have seen this is a better fit for Sharpe and it sounds like Skip is not what I thought he was.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 10:40 AM
36. "Skip is an antagonist, I never believed what he said half the time" In response to Reply # 28
just seemed like he was playing it up for ratings.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 11:14 AM
"yes, those takes generated mad hate"
which is his job.
I hated him the whole time he did it too...
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
13. "That's bullshit and uninformed Obama's Justice Department" In response to Reply # 1
did more to address police brutality than any Justice Department prior to it. Damn near radical. Jeff Sessions is the backlash to what they did.
>seeing as that he did NOTHING about the police brutality >situation when it was happening on his watch. > >As for Shannon in the realm of entertainment he has a good >mind for social issues and can articulate his points well >while remaining consistent. I wonder how much longer he will >be able to keep speaking on these issues before the network >tells him to chill.
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20. "He did NOTHING... facts" In response to Reply # 13
It happened with regularity and the only thing his ass came up with was body cameras?
Yeah okay
Never did he visit the sites where all of this police brutality occurred. More violence continued to happen to unarmed black men and he made no radical changes to the police forces or the judicial system who kept letting them off the hook.
26. "It sounds like somebody forgot about the Beer Summit" In response to Reply # 1
If you think four dudes sitting at patio furniture and awkwardly sipping some ice cold brews is nothing, then I don't know what to tell you.
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31. "BS" In response to Reply # 1 Tue Sep-26-17 10:06 AM by WarriorPoet415
Like it or not people have to realize not everything belongs on the president's door step.
Police brutality is a state matter. The fed can't just step in and override state's rights. You'd have another civil war if they did. They have oversight and can make suggestions and step in, in certain situations.
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35. "This is definitely BS" In response to Reply # 31
>Like it or not people have to realize not everything belongs >on the president's door step. > >Police brutality is a state matter. The fed can't just step in >and override state's rights. You'd have another civil war if >they did. They have oversight and can make suggestions and >step in, in certain situations. > >How the fuck do you think he was supposed to fix that problem >and all of the other problems black folks face in 8 years
Police brutality is not a state matter. If he called himself speaking on it when the black professor was harassed by the police then he should of done more. Maybe another civil war needs to happens to cleanse this country of it filth.
If he can speak out and work on issues such as women’s rights, gay rights, and speak against guns then he could’ve done more.
What gets me pissed is that black folks stayed giving this man a pass while the youth in the inner city continued to get brutalized, and the economic state of black didn’t improved. All of these house niggas stayed patting him on the back. Kept saying that dumb rhetoric that you just said... “oh he can’t address every issue”. No one expected him to address every black issue, but in terms of police brutality, cops getting off through the court systems with a majority of them keeping their jobs, and creating bills to help stimulate entrepreneurship and economic group in the black community is the least he could’ve done. No one was looking for him to fix broken homes, poor schools, and housing in the black communities. Nor for him to fix black-on-black violence. Yet folks are pissed at Trump for Charlottesville for doing the same thing... not speaking out against racist actions.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 10:41 AM
37. "he spoke on it, you just didn't care for his words" In response to Reply # 35
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
48. "He did say that the police acted stupidly..." In response to Reply # 37
but in the face of harsh criticism he backed down and never used that terminology again when young unarmed black men (and boys) were gunned down.
I live in Ohio not that far from Cleveland when the Tamir Rice situation happened. Not that long before that they have the infamous police chase that seemed as if the entire police force was after one vehicle and they let off well over 100 shots. It’s a matter that has gone on without any justice being served.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 11:16 AM
52. "he said Treyvon coulda been his son" In response to Reply # 48
that's fucking huge b
wypipo still use that line cause it hurts their soul to hear a President speak like that about a Black male.
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65. "Here’s the truth..." In response to Reply # 52
That could never be him (or if he had any sons) nor his daughters.
He has a certain status in which that would never happen to him. Yeah he could get profiled (which I feel would never happen), but not shot and killed being unarmed. We’re taking about a former President (current when he made the statement) in comparison to some black people that society doesn’t give a damn about.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Oct-03-17 09:08 AM
96. "you are being obtuse for obvious reasons" In response to Reply # 65
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 08:37 AM
3. "Always thought Sharpe mush mouth was terrible as a football analyst.." In response to Reply # 0
but dude has been on point since he has been on this show.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
91. "I think it helps his perception" In response to Reply # 3
because we all know people that talk like that. It also helps that he really is saying things he feels are right, and not just feeding a line for ratings.
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4. "This is a great platform for Shannon." In response to Reply # 0
I've always liked his personality and this is a much better fit than when he was on CBS. Skip is a good counter, and it's not as much noise as First Take was with Screamin' A. Hopefully Fox doesn't put the muzzle on anytime soon.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 08:42 AM
6. "I think the pace at CBS was too fast.. " In response to Reply # 4
he couldn't get his words out. He was terrible.
Dude is so on point on this show tho.. I'm blown away.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 08:53 AM
11. "athletes are different..lol" In response to Reply # 9
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 09:01 AM
15. "I still have to put a * by his name" In response to Reply # 12
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 10:44 AM
40. "I did? please refresh my memory if so" In response to Reply # 17
I think I was ill informed on the timing of his boycott but once I realized the timeline I fell back.
the * is for those who are pro black until it comes to their women.
That shit is weird b
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 11:17 AM
53. "yeah, I may have.. again, my timeline was off with him" In response to Reply # 46
I'm pretty sure I apologized and gave him props
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55. "that's not what I'm saying.. " In response to Reply # 27
what Shannon is saying is for "us". Not to persuade the minds of white folks. some of them get it and some of them don't. the white guy did a good job of telling us how things showed up for him.
Shannon came out the gate swinging we can persuade people that way...
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 10:45 AM
41. "bihhhhhh.. nahhhhhhhh bihhhhhhh nahhhhhh " In response to Reply # 18
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
Atillah Moor Member since Sep 05th 2013 13825 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 09:44 AM
30. "to cut to the truth you can't have racial equity, equality, or justice " In response to Reply # 0 Tue Sep-26-17 09:44 AM by Atillah Moor
and still use race as a classification for American citizens. Shannon is a good voice on RACE, but unless he or anyone else is talking about doing away with race then the problem can not be adequately resolved
32. "That(doing away with race) only works if everyone" In response to Reply # 30
goes along with it.
>and still use race as a classification for American citizens. >Shannon is a good voice on RACE, but unless he or anyone else >is talking about doing away with race then the problem can not >be adequately resolved
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 10:46 AM
42. "resolved? that ain't happening " In response to Reply # 30
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
50. "you want to do away with race now, it's too late for that" In response to Reply # 30
after hundreds of years of slavery, hundreds of years of the country not providing human rights based on race, the current prison situation, the indifference shown to public schools in black neighborhoods, and NOW it's time to do away with race?
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79616 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 11:18 AM
54. "lmao..right. remove race and thengive themselves reparations " In response to Reply # 50 Tue Sep-26-17 11:20 AM by legsdiamond
now isn't the time to remove race.
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Atillah Moor Member since Sep 05th 2013 13825 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 11:20 AM
56. "no the best time was during reconstruction if not before" In response to Reply # 50 Tue Sep-26-17 11:26 AM by Atillah Moor
My point is that what are "we" talking about if it's not the removal of that system of classification?
Anything else is a half measure which only ensures that black people continue this experience.
If the injustices are going to be brought to an end then that leaves only one truly viable alternative
It is clear that for whatever reasons the majority of white people in America are not your neighbors, friends, or allies and have no desire to be such. In light of that; despite how they got to that place in their minds they have to be dealt with in order for "us" to break the cycle.
60. "i'd agree if bias was that easily contested" In response to Reply # 56
skin color will be the new division
social constructs can be done away with bu the stereotypes, bias, and bigotry will just be attached to something else
this is one of those sicknesses so integral to human nature all you can do is attack each symptom and only then can you even begin thinking about curing the disease
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88. "We don't need another hero, man." In response to Reply # 74
we don't need to get caught up in another cult of personality. If you like what Shannon is saying that's fine. If he speaks to you and for you that's great. I've heard others who spoke more for and to me. I don't keep clippings of them in my hope chest so I won't have names for you beyond the homie Coates and supreme sister Michelle Alexander. If brother Sharpe makes it move for you then do your thing. Get yours.
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As stated, Sharpe is ok for a guy on a sports show. I can only remember one "what about Black on Black crime" moment of his, but he's cool for the most part. As for Obama, referring to poverty-stricken Black people who are frustrated over police brutality as "thugs" automatically deletes his usefulness as a "voice" for Black people.
81. "of that list, i've only heard of michelle alexander" In response to Reply # 75
the thing about shannon is, he's on a huge platform and saying the things he's saying. none of those people you mentioned are on a nationally televised show for 2 hours daily. you think fox news, or any other network would give michelle alexader the platform to speak daily? it has to come from a shannon or we'll just have niggers like ray lewis speaking in the names of black people.
82. "RE: of that list, i've only heard of michelle alexander" In response to Reply # 81
>the thing about shannon is, he's on a huge platform and >saying the things he's saying. none of those people you >mentioned are on a nationally televised show for 2 hours >daily. you think fox news, or any other network would give >michelle alexader the platform to speak daily? it has to come >from a shannon or we'll just have niggers like ray lewis >speaking in the names of black people.
I hear you. This is why I think it's important to share the names of people who don't get that platform. Of course Fox News won't give them a platform, because it's literally owned by a white racist, and if our voices are given to us by white folks, then you can bet they'll only say as much as the establishment wants us to hear. One of their greatest tools is to control not only the oppression but also the resistance by giving us the leaders/voices they want us to have. This is documented, but lemme stay on track...
But like I said, I don't really have anything against Shannon, but there are very important things to say that his white masters aren't going to allow him to say... and/or he's put there because he's not informed enough to say them... and that's not a diss, it's just the truth. Our most important voices won't appear on nat'l platforms, and if they do, they won't get time to express a full idea before being over-talked or cut off... and the narrative built around them will be that they are somehow crazy.
79. "The age of "the One" has passed. That's why they go so hard at BLM." In response to Reply # 78
there is no "head" to chop off.
They are still running the Cointelpro playbook against Black organizations today, and a lot of the younger groups don't ascribe to the messiah model of yesteryear. Even here, the groups that are making shit move don't have a specific head- there are folks who stand in front, but never one specific person.
80. "i can dig it and i'm ALL for it...i didn't know/realize that, that's whe..." In response to Reply # 79
we are now i knew that's the model that we should be using moving forward but didn't realize that we here
kinda like the HYDRA
hell Kaep ain't peeped a word in a year lol
erybody got a part to play tho...and i know SS doesn't have a masters in AA studies or history but figure that on a National scale...he is rising (very high) as a 'spokesman' imo...i think he is the best at it at this pt with that platform
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