I feel bad for her SO, he got that "shoulda never dated a strong independent Black Woman" look on his face.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Fri Sep-22-17 10:04 AM
3. "happy friday Trin" In response to Reply # 2 Fri Sep-22-17 10:04 AM by legsdiamond
if she cooked they wouldn't have this problem
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4. "Is that a service dog or ESA dog?" In response to Reply # 0
People linestep with that designation to bring their damn dog everywhere, and you can't question them. The hell is a damn mastiff going to help you do but get in the way? I don't have anything against dogs, but the way fitewolks treat them perplexes the hell out of me.
Lady might've been wrong in her approach (screaming), but she was 100% in the right about the dog, IMHO. One minute she's eating, next minute there's a big-ass dog next to her. FOH. Fuck eating around dogs.
I'n in a park downtown eating my lunch on a bench and this lady brings her dog near me and lets it take a shit on the grass like 20 feet in front of me. I wanted to frisbee my vegan pizza box right at her head.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Fri Sep-22-17 10:24 AM
6. "I was playing in the park with my wife and kids" In response to Reply # 5
and this little cute asian girl shit her dog right next to the playground and tried to walk away.
I called her out. "I knooow you aint gonna leave that shit with all these toddlers running around"
she claimed she didn't have a bag.
bihhhh, you better find one. I think we gave her a bag or a baby wipe.
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>I'n in a park downtown eating my lunch on a bench and this >lady brings her dog near me and lets it take a shit on the >grass like 20 feet in front of me. I wanted to frisbee my >vegan pizza box right at her head.
8. "You'd sic the dog on her?" In response to Reply # 7
Most people want to be around other people's dogs, man. How do I know it won't bite or try to grab food off my plate? Why the fuck should I even have to think about that?
Same with people that bring dogs to playgrounds, athletic fields, outdoor festivals and events, and the strip of grass in front of my house.
Restaurants may be public spaces for PEOPLE, but clearly not animals.
Dogs don't wash their paws. The cleanliness of the dog can't be verified, either. The dander causes allergic reactions for some people. They shed fur, which gets all over the furniture and restaurant. Some people are quite frightened of dogs, also.
Also, you're comparing dogs and people in two of your examples. C'mon, man. And the third (loud personal music) is also not allowed in restaurants.
Edit: Also, that should say "most people DON'T want to be around other people's dogs..." in my previous post.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Fri Sep-22-17 11:13 AM
12. "Nah this is different. Service animals has skyrocketed recently " In response to Reply # 9
and dogs aren't sanitary regardless of what folks try to tell you.
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It's become a way for dog owners to avoid paying fees when flying or taking some other form of transit with their dogs, and they can essentially just keep the dog with them the whole time. They can also bring their dog to places like restaurants and hotels, avoiding having to find a kennel or pay more for a pet-friendly place.
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>me thinks she may have said something slick...they overheard >it and said something back and then all hell broke loose... > >I also think she has a fair point about it should be posted or >a separate section. > >
20. "I would've asked to be reseated, and if that wasn't possible I'm out." In response to Reply # 13 Fri Sep-22-17 11:47 AM by flipnile
It depends on the dog and where it is, however. If it's not next to me then fine, but I don't want to sit next to a dog. Also, if the dog moves around too much I don't want to sit near it.
24. "Nah, because I honestly doubt they'd get it, and would just get defensiv..." In response to Reply # 21 Fri Sep-22-17 11:57 AM by flipnile
I'd be the same way if someone started watching a movie on their ipad out loud in a restaurant (for example). I'd assume they were assholes, as assholes don't care about others, so instead of wasting time I go as high as I can. Try to get reseated or bounce.
To be fair to the vet in the OP's story, he apparently has a legit service dog, but why get a Great Dane?
He's an asshole for not understanding that people don't want to be around a giant-ass dog, and probably should have gotten something that people would be more comfortable with in public. The same public he wants to take his service dog around.
25. "by way of example..." In response to Reply # 13
I almost had a bar brawl this past Sunday. not something I'm proud of and it left feeling embarrassed. I can be an butthole when it comes to breaking rules tho...
While watching the game I guy about 6'3 came in stood in front of the TV. I'm 5'4 so I couldn't see. I tapped him on the shoulder and said, "you can't stand there". First mistake.
he looked at me like WTF but, moved down a few steps. I noticed him talking to others and pointing at me. I lost it! So bad, that for the rest of the evening folks move out my way when I walked passed them. White folks...
In my mind I thought it was rude of him to plant himself there without checking what was behind him. In his, "it's a bar"
26. "This was clear once you mentioned them pointing at you" In response to Reply # 25 Fri Sep-22-17 12:10 PM by flipnile
>White folks...
(I'm guessing the suburban former frat-bro-type) folks like that gotta lead the league in passive-aggressive displays of hurt like whispering and pointing at the little black woman that offended him.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Fri Sep-22-17 12:23 PM
33. "Where did you end up watching the game? " In response to Reply # 25
Ionno know why tall dudes think they need to be front and center when they can see over most people
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Fri Sep-22-17 12:25 PM
34. "huh? rules should be bent for vets? " In response to Reply # 29
I can see giving them free shit or reduced cost on shit but bending the rules is excessive
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Fri Sep-22-17 12:53 PM
39. "damn, the emotional support dog needed an emotional support dog" In response to Reply # 36
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38. "ain't enough Black women on here bro lol" In response to Reply # 13
that's standard operating procedure (cept the service dog part...doesn't apply to all)
i would make a loud enough indirect remark/joke if it bothered me along the lines of 'Got damn ...ya'll just gonna see Spot run all up in thru here huh'
but i'm rational...and would've seen it was a service dog and prolly ignored....
BUT if hipster ass Shaggy n Scooby came thru sittin at a table next to me and lettin the dog eat off their plate and out their mouth...i'd say somethin just like a chic would
35. "Someone tried to bring a dog into my uber pool" In response to Reply # 0
I thought of the previous dog post we had...
I said there's no way dogs are allowed in an Uber pool and if the driver lets him and his dog ride, I'm about to get a refund. But even the driver was telling the dude+dog FOH before I said a word
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Fri Sep-22-17 12:55 PM
40. "when I drove for Uber a dude asked me if I could pick up his dog. " In response to Reply # 35
FUCK NO!!!
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Fri Sep-22-17 01:08 PM
43. "dog hairs all up in your meals huh? " In response to Reply # 41
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46. "What a juvenile asshole" In response to Reply # 0 Fri Sep-22-17 01:22 PM by Airbreed
A relative of mine uses a service dog almost everywhere he goes and people are always too kind to him and the dog. This ABW idiot must be having another bad day at being alive.
The solution is simple. Rather than making yourself a complete jackass and insensitive creep, If you don't want eat near a service dog, then sit elsewhere, or leave the restaurant, and don't come back.
Had she stepped to my relative like that her fucking head woulda been taken off.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Fri Sep-22-17 01:35 PM
49. "man, I really hope he drove. " In response to Reply # 48
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Fri Sep-22-17 02:37 PM
52. "sheiit. I seen a Black woman with a STROLLER at the sports bar" In response to Reply # 50
she was outside but still, she had 2 of those toy puppies dressed in Dallas gear.
Black people love imitating white folks.
I also seens a dude in Brooklyn in a supermarket trying to hold a big ass dirty fucking poodle while grabbing milk. That dog wanted no parts of it too and was fighting for his freedom. The dog knew that shit was wrong.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Fri Sep-22-17 02:38 PM
53. "dogs are a no no.. but screaming like a gotdamn fool is just as bad" In response to Reply # 51
if not worse.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Fri Sep-22-17 06:43 PM
63. "Lol, honestly I haven't listened to the whole thing" In response to Reply # 54
She is acting a fool tho.
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62. "annoying but at least service dogs are trained, usually super quiet" In response to Reply # 0
was in a particular bestbuy the other day and there were three people/families with dogs in the game section, dogs going crazy barking at each other, owners laughing it off no service pet indicators anywhere... many customers lost cause I was not the only one exiting upon the sight of the ridiculous indoor dog park
65. "*off subject*..but has anyone ever seen a happy looking service dog?" In response to Reply # 0
..they all look depressed as fcuk. Side-eyeing regular dogs that get to have all kinds of fun with their owners and be all disobedient when they want to.
But yea, "service" dog or not...that sh!t should NOT have been in a restaurant period.point.blank.
If your "condition" is that bad, stay your ass at home and order in or phone up Bite Squad or whatever your cities equivalent may be.
Her man was looking at her the whole time reconsidering his whole position in the relationship and if he should have listened to his family before he booed up this human megaphone.
She should have handled it with class and her point would have probably been heard better instead of her words being a diamond covered in sh!t.
"The more a country produces..the richer it is...the better it should take care of it's people. - Dr. Aleida Guevara"
71. "I love when loud when wrong is called “independent”" In response to Reply # 0
Lol fucking laughable.
You are only independent on your way go being lonely yelling at people for stupid shit. Its a dog. Calm the fuck down. Use your words like a grown up in a normal tone i dont care if someone “stepped to her” yell when you are danger, otherwise no matter what you will always look sttupid and wrong. People posting fake service talk articles makes zero sense unless you know for a fact that dog was a fake one LOL that argument holds no weight otherwise ----------
72. "she should sue the restaurant." In response to Reply # 0
Props to the vet for their service, a no diss for them needing the service animal. (Damn @ having a service animal for PTSD and getting cussed the fuck out)
However, when you go into a restaurant/establishment where food is prepared, there are different rules. If I have a food allergy, they usually explicilty either on the menu or signage ask that you disclose that.
I have never seen a restaurant ask if you have an allergy to dogs or cats, etc cause they usually are never there (expect Bronx bodegas with that cat that lays across the sneeze guards).
One form of ablism doesn't trump the other, though it seems that being a vet trumped it all. Thank you for your service, but in a restaurant, I'm sorry we'd have to find another way to serve you, perhaps with a designated area.
She def screamed on em, but I'm sure she was like "damn 50 years ago my veteran Black granddaddy couldn't get served but this dog is staring in my face"
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73. "Lol this is what is embarassing about our generation of Dems" In response to Reply # 72 Sat Sep-23-17 07:25 PM by Heinz
Smh. Our gen is so fucking sensitive its fucking annoying. The over sensitive is our version of the tea party. At least their crazy agenda was clear. Unsure what these types of millenials are fighting for. Equal rights to be pussies? LMAO
The sue for stupid nonsensical shit train is strong with these fools...case in point.
74. "1. I'm not a Democrat" In response to Reply # 73
2. My larger point is that the restaurant is at fault here. Their carelessness is what put her in a position to have to act at this extreme. She's responsible for her actions, but they are most culpable. Not only does she have a legitimate beef, but she could/should sue if she wants too. That is a statement of how wrong she isn't, even though she screamed on everybody.
*shrugs*
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>However, when you go into a restaurant/establishment where >food is prepared, there are different rules. If I have a food >allergy, they usually explicilty either on the menu or signage >ask that you disclose that. > >I have never seen a restaurant ask if you have an allergy to >dogs or cats, etc cause they usually are never there (expect >Bronx bodegas with that cat that lays across the sneeze >guards). > >One form of ablism doesn't trump the other, though it seems >that being a vet trumped it all. Thank you for your service, >but in a restaurant, I'm sorry we'd have to find another way >to serve you, perhaps with a designated area. > >She def screamed on em, but I'm sure she was like "damn 50 >years ago my veteran Black granddaddy couldn't get served but >this dog is staring in my face"
80. "the need of the vet to need the service animal for PTSD" In response to Reply # 78
vs the threat of said animal posing an issue to persons with allergies, which is DEFINITELY a consideration to be made of an eating establishment.
it is as if they said "we know we have a duty to patrons who may have allergies and the contamination of this establishment and food, BUT this guy is a vet with PTSD so we are going to trump those needs and favor this one patron because we deem his affliction as more important/serious than the other"
lower case "t" trump, btw, lol forgot that was a verb now in a different connotation.
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76. "I kind of see both sides, but I more so side with her" In response to Reply # 0
in Popeyes a few months ago an older black woman threatened to call the health department because a young girl had her puppy in there. I thought she overreacted because this is a place with a counter where everyone is ordering food to go
what Im guessing happened here is she complained, only to be greeted with an air of "who do you think you are (as a black woman) coming in our place of business starting trouble" and the tape started rolling after she was moved towards aggression. one of white people's favorite pastimes is saying we overreacted to being slighted
85. "Not everyone likes dogs, man" In response to Reply # 81 Tue Sep-26-17 10:02 AM by flipnile
Dog owners stay trying to treat their dogs like people, but then when the dog acts like a dog they say "well, that's what dogs do." It's like a loophole to *not* take responsibility.
I don't want animal hair anywhere near my food or on my clothing. I don't want to smell someone's dog while I'm eating also (yeah, I can smell them). That's not unreasonable nor hard to understand.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Mon Sep-25-17 08:06 AM
79. "dude prolly relieved to see someone else getting the business" In response to Reply # 77
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 12:03 PM
90. "chill... I was joking..lol" In response to Reply # 83
that's how they get us.
"it's a pattern"
nah, she just mad there is a dog in a restaurant and I don't blame her...
I wouldn't get that mad tho.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 12:35 PM
92. "no, why would I think that? " In response to Reply # 91
it's white people, fuck their feelings.. especially under these circumstances.
most Black folk go extra hard when it's white strangers to let them know they mean business.
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93. "Watch the video again and listen to the other ladies" In response to Reply # 91
They say the most patronizing shit. "Ok, that's enough!" etc. Like THEY are the fucking boss. She probably went from 60-100 when they tried to shut her up and dismiss what she was saying like she didn't matter.
Again, ain't saying she was 100% right, but she's not 100% wrong either.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79610 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 01:54 PM
94. "I don't use these type of outburst as an MO" In response to Reply # 93
not when you are making a coherent argument.. she is just loud as fuck with it but I understand why.
white folks arguing like it's cool for a dog to post up in the restaurant
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87. "I'm a dog person, so I don't find it "disgusting"." In response to Reply # 0
That being said, I agree that dogs shouldn't be allowed inside restaurants. It's one thing if it's a seeing eye dog and the person needs to to get around. But a therapy dog? Mmmmnah. At an outside table, sure. Inside, no. Especially a big ass great dane lol. No way for a dog that big to just go quietly unnoticed. So I wouldn't have said anything or left, but I get it. I feel bad for the dog, with all these stupid people screaming over it.
Colorado is extremely dog friendly, and people here still push it. Like "Oh well I needed to come into the Apple store, am I just supposed to leave my dog outside or at home??" Yes bitch.
The Wordsmith Member since Aug 13th 2002 17070 posts
Tue Sep-26-17 07:44 PM
96. "Waste of time to raise a stink. Service dogs are federally protected." In response to Reply # 0 Tue Sep-26-17 07:44 PM by The Wordsmith
Your best bet is to leave the establishment if a service dog being there offends you because, by law, they can be there. Trying to get the animal removed (in regards to some of the discussion in here) is akin to trying to get some paraplegic person's wheelchair removed from the place.
98. "I've been working on INVICTUS this week." In response to Reply # 0
WE're hosting it in Toronto and Prince Harry is here for it. It's like an Olympic games for injured war vets. I've been so humbled by the incredible people I've learned about. Couldn't stop the tears a couple times.
I didn't know this service dogs were being used for amputees and such. A great idea. So many of these guys and girls...if it happens before your married....I'd assume that your chances for relationships goes down. A great idea for sure. I know some adults with Tourette's also have dogs for similar reasons.
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