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legsdiamond
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"Trump wants a military parade on July 4th"


          

smh

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-wants-big-military-parade-july-4-show-strength-201153624.html

“We’re going to have to try and top it. But we had a lot of planes going over, and we had a lot of military might and it was really a beautiful thing to see. They had representatives from different wars in different uniforms. It was really so well done,” the president said.

“We’re spending this year 700 billion, more than we’ve ever spent, on the military, which is good news for you ’cause we’re friends,” Trump told Macron. “And I think we really, we’re looking forward to doing that.”

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Dictator in progress
Sep 19th 2017
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This fool just called Kim Jung Un "Rocket Man" in his UN speech
Sep 19th 2017
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I laughed..
Sep 19th 2017
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      at what point do his people tell him to stop?
Sep 19th 2017
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           Well Hugo Chavez called Bush the devil
Sep 19th 2017
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           that's not name calling, that's name tagging
Sep 19th 2017
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           who is he going to listen to?
Sep 19th 2017
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           the voices in his head
Sep 19th 2017
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           i don't think he always listens
Sep 19th 2017
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                we sick boss?
Sep 19th 2017
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He's insane.
Sep 19th 2017
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i thought that's what the various Air shows are about?
Sep 19th 2017
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It's about 'Murica !!! Love it 'er leave it !! *spits tobacco*
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Intercept: Senate's military spending enough to make college free
Sep 19th 2017
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So even Cory Booker voted for this? Interesting.
Sep 19th 2017
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DavidHasselhoff
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1. "Dictator in progress"
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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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2. "This fool just called Kim Jung Un "Rocket Man" in his UN speech"
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Lol and smh

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legsdiamond
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4. "I laughed.. "
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was I not supposed to?

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6. "at what point do his people tell him to stop?"
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Some shit is just off limits ( or should be). You don't name call at a UNGA meeting.

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8. "Well Hugo Chavez called Bush the devil"
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9. "that's not name calling, that's name tagging"
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legsdiamond
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10. "who is he going to listen to?"
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KiloMcG
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11. "the voices in his head"
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makaveli
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14. "i don't think he always listens"
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also, he's nuts. something is not right in our president's head.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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15. "we sick boss?"
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Tue Sep-19-17 11:40 AM by Atillah Moor

  

          

our president's head

  

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3. "He's insane."
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5. "i thought that's what the various Air shows are about?"
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and the military salutes during NFL games and shit like that?

we do this here in the USA just not in a single parade in DC. we spread it out. lol

fuck you.

  

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7. "It's about 'Murica !!! Love it 'er leave it !! *spits tobacco*"
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12. "Intercept: Senate's military spending enough to make college free"
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Approved, 89-8. Only Democrat "nays" were Gillibrand, Leahy, Merkley, Sanders, and Wyden. Rand Paul and Bob Corker also voted against.

One thing that I try to remind myself when I see young people demanding the moon and stars from the government is that if you're 25, your formative political memories are:

a)The Iraq War
b)The 2008 financial crisis

Hanging these on the GOP is easy and true, but it's not like the Democrats covered themselves in glory here. I think the one bit of insight that young, angry people have to offer that we've (or me, because I'm old) have lost sight of is that the world before Trump is the same world which led to Trump.

https://theintercept.com/2017/09/18/the-senates-military-spending-increase-alone-is-enough-to-make-public-college-free/?comments=1

THE SENATE’S MILITARY SPENDING INCREASE ALONE IS ENOUGH TO MAKE PUBLIC COLLEGE FREE
Alex Emmons
September 18 2017, 11:13 p.m.

ONE OF THE most controversial proposals put forward by Sen. Bernie Sanders during the 2016 presidential campaign was a pledge to make tuition free at public colleges and universities. Critics from both parties howled that the pie-in-the-sky idea would bankrupt the country. Where, after all, would the money come from?

Those concerns were brushed aside Monday night, as the Senate overwhelmingly approved an $80 billion annual increase in military spending, enough to have fully satisfied Sanders’s campaign promise. Instead, the Senate handed President Donald Trump far more than the $54 billion he asked for. The lavish spending package gives Trump a major legislative victory, allowing him to boast about fulfilling his promise of a “great rebuilding of the armed services.”

The bill would set the U.S.’s annual military budget at around $700 billion, putting it within range of matching the spending level at the height of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

To put that in further perspective: If the package becomes law, U.S. military spending would exceed the total spending of its next 10 rivals put together, going off of 2016 military spending estimates from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

Put another way, with a $700 billion military budget, the U.S. would be spending more than three times as much as China on its military, and 10 times as much as Russia. According to SIPRI, the U.S. already accounts for more than a third of all military spending.

The share of world military expenditure of the 15 countries with the highest spending in 2016. (Credit, SIPRI)
Or with $80 billion a year, you could make public colleges and universities in the U.S. tuition-free. In fact, Sanders’s proposal was only estimated to cost the federal government $47 billion per year.

If the additional military spending over the next 10 years instead went to pay off student debt, it could come close to wiping it out entirely.

But proposals like that are written off as nonstarters, even by Democrats. In her new book, Hillary Clinton compares Sanders’s idea to him nonsensically saying “America should get a pony.” And while concerns about the cost of ponies abound, few Democrats are raising similar concerns about military spending, even when it is meant for a commander-in-chief they consider reckless and unstable.

The Senate voted 89-8, with three senators not voting, to approve the military money. Spendthrift Sanders joined only four other Democratic senators to vote against the bill: Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Patrick Leahy of Vermont, and Jeff Merkley and Ron Wyden from Oregon. Republicans Bob Corker of Tennessee, Rand Paul of Kentucky, and Mike Lee of Utah also voted against it.

When Trump submitted a budget proposal in March, which cut social spending dramatically to fund a $54 billion increase in defense spending, Democrats criticized it as a nonstarter. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said he “emphatically opposed” the blueprint, and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said the budget “throws billions of dollars at defense while ransacking” health and education funding.

Before the bill becomes law, it is has to be reconciled with the version the House already passed, which contains a similar $77 billion spending increase. It is likely to become law by the end of the year.

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13. "So even Cory Booker voted for this? Interesting."
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This is off tangent from what you posted, but I wonder what kind of professional relationship Gillibrand and Schumer have since Schumer holds a decent amount of power among Democrats, but I hope Gillibrand isn't as tied to the banks like Schumer is.

With the huge dollars in this bills, I can only imagine how much non-military pork is in this.

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