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j.
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"Bodegas next on the hipster gentrification list"


  

          

after making quick work of Brooklyn and similar takeovers all over the country, tech bro hipsters are coming after one of the last remaining mom and pop PoC owned businesses left

https://www.fastcompany.com/40466047/two-ex-googlers-want-to-make-bodegas-and-mom-and-pop-corner-stores-obsolete

I can see it now
the app will be called Google Bodega
Becky and Chad won't have to go to that "sketchy" store anymore
sucks for Papi and his family

  

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Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG6guvFbSAM
Sep 13th 2017
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So it's a vending machine?
Sep 13th 2017
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and they got funding for this shit?
Sep 13th 2017
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Stole my reply
Sep 14th 2017
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It's just a fancy vending machine...
Sep 13th 2017
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even with the name, do we really care?
Sep 13th 2017
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      Big city ppl care, yes.
Sep 13th 2017
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      Fuck yes we care.
Sep 14th 2017
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           I don't see how this will impact Bodega's at all.
Sep 14th 2017
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                so said the cab driver
Sep 14th 2017
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                     Yeah, that's a great comparison.
Sep 14th 2017
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Where's the cat?
Sep 13th 2017
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in the logo.
Sep 14th 2017
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      Yikes.
Sep 14th 2017
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i wouldn't mind one of these in my apartment complex
Sep 14th 2017
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I can see how a Becky would want this at 3AM in BK
Sep 14th 2017
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the concept doesn't seem efficient to me...
Sep 14th 2017
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most efficient thing would be for Bodegas to stock them...lol
Sep 14th 2017
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Uber + Amazon will take care of that
Sep 14th 2017
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^^ sees it.
Sep 14th 2017
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It would be interesting
Sep 14th 2017
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      I can order shit from Amazon and have it delivered in 2 hours...
Sep 15th 2017
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The logistics sound crazy, that's why Amazon should be in this business
Sep 14th 2017
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They are apologizing already
Sep 14th 2017
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RE: They are apologizing already
Sep 14th 2017
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      Yup. Shit is just a fancy vending machine tho
Sep 14th 2017
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      Oh for christ's sake.
Sep 14th 2017
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           RE: Oh for christ's sake.
Sep 14th 2017
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           +1
Sep 14th 2017
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           How is the word offensive?
Sep 14th 2017
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                RE: How is the word offensive?
Sep 14th 2017
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                     Bodega's market advantage is convenience right?
Sep 14th 2017
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                          RE: Bodega's market advantage is convenience right?
Sep 14th 2017
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                          It explicitly says in the article that they want to put bodegas out of b...
Sep 14th 2017
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                               the one proposed in toronto
Sep 14th 2017
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                                    Corner store is a Canadian bodega
Sep 15th 2017
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           lmao.. you didn't read the article did you?
Sep 14th 2017
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                denny did't read a goddamn thing
Sep 15th 2017
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Finally clicked the link, and I hate that place even before it exists
Sep 14th 2017
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RE: Bodegas next on the hipster gentrification list
Sep 15th 2017
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1. "Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG6guvFbSAM"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG6guvFbSAM

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2. "So it's a vending machine?"
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Wed Sep-13-17 02:43 PM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

  

          

Does it make a greasy chopped cheese?

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3. "and they got funding for this shit? "
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shut up already, damn

  

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Eric B Is Prez
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20. "Stole my reply"
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I was gonna say, if it can't make me a bacon+egg+cheese or sell me a loosie, what's the point.

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4. "It's just a fancy vending machine..."
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If they hadn't named it Bodega no one would care.

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legsdiamond
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5. "even with the name, do we really care? "
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shut up already, damn

  

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6. "Big city ppl care, yes."
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Those of us who live/work in walkable or close-knit neighborhoods that actually have these so-called mom/pop stores (or convenience stores or corner stores or bodegas) do care about potentially losing those in favor of fancy vending machines.

I frequent 5 such stores and losing for machines would be terrible. Where am I gonna get my Juicy Twists and loose Fruit Roll-Ups and loosie cigarettes and blunt wraps?

fuck you.

  

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9. "Fuck yes we care. "
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11. "I don't see how this will impact Bodega's at all."
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like SoWhat said.. unless you can get loosie's and beer from these things it won't have much of an impact.

shut up already, damn

  

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j.
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16. "so said the cab driver"
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Uber? Lyft? fuck do I care?

  

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21. "Yeah, that's a great comparison. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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7. "Where's the cat?"
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10. "in the logo."
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13. "Yikes."
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8. "i wouldn't mind one of these in my apartment complex"
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the closest convenience store is a hilly mile-long walk each way

i don't get why people in cities would want a large vending machine instead of an actual corner store though

  

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12. "I can see how a Becky would want this at 3AM in BK"
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but no one is walking past a corner store to get shit from their vending machines...

once you are in your complex tho, sure.. why go out in the snow if you can get a roll of TP down the hall?

shut up already, damn

  

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14. "the concept doesn't seem efficient to me..."
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They plan to have 100,000 of these which means they need a workforce who drive around in a truck and restock all the boxes. They will also need local distribution centres where the delivery drivers pull out of. It's more efficient logistically to have a traditional bodega store like we have today.

  

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15. "most efficient thing would be for Bodegas to stock them...lol"
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that way everybody wins.

shut up already, damn

  

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17. "Uber + Amazon will take care of that"
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in between rides, Uber/Lyft drivers can swing by the Amazon center and pick up restocks for Google Bodega

  

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18. "^^ sees it."
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fuck you.

  

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29. "It would be interesting"
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if Amazon chipped in by adding their recently purchased Whole Foods products in this bodega/vending machine start up.

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40. "I can order shit from Amazon and have it delivered in 2 hours..."
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and I live in Charlotte.

Pretty sure Amazon is working on their own robot kiosk type stores. Coulda sworn someone linked a story about a year ago.

shut up already, damn

  

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19. "The logistics sound crazy, that's why Amazon should be in this business"
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Amazon delivering stuff by drones always sounded crazy to me. This makes a lot of sense for them.


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22. "They are apologizing already"
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http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-bodega-startup-apology-20170913-story.html

shut up already, damn

  

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23. "RE: They are apologizing already"
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There's definitely a market for this idea. They should have just called it something else.

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24. "Yup. Shit is just a fancy vending machine tho"
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and I guess if I could walk 20 steps instead of leaving my building I would use it for a few items if it was cold out or I needed a condom.

Trying to think if THEY really use Bodegas like that anyway? Always seemed like it was mostly us up in those spots.

I haven't been to BK in a few tho...

shut up already, damn

  

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25. "Oh for christ's sake."
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So the outrage is based on the insensitive use of the word 'bodega' and not the actual consequences facing the real people who run bodegas?

I'm so finished with this generation.

  

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26. "RE: Oh for christ's sake."
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Do you not understand framing?

marketing?

must read more Lakoff

Calling it bodega puts it in direct competition with them. These are integral parts of the community in big cities... the word in context is offensive..

if they called it poppops and it was marketed as what it is.. convenience vending for people who live in mixed use apartments it wouldve been fine..

they thought they'd be fresh a "disrupt" a neighborhood staple and got their asses handed to them..

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28. "+1"
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thanks for saving me the keystrokes

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31. "How is the word offensive?"
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Thu Sep-14-17 04:59 PM by denny

          

If Bodegas are 'integral' parts of the community than this new business idea is a threat to them no matter what it's called.

Is it offensive if it's called 'Cornerstore'?

And the name is not what puts this idea into direct competition with Bodegas....it's the service provided that puts them into direct competition with Bodegas.

  

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32. "RE: How is the word offensive?"
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Because lots of other businesses compete with bodegas. Duane Reade, CVS, Rite Aid, delis, grocery stores, hardware stores, etc. Whenever a new one of those opens up, it's not news.

It's the use of the name bodega (specifically) that's getting attention here. Partly because of appropriation, and partly because it's a slap in the face to actual bodegas because it implies that it can replace the service they provide.

In journalism and PR, 'dog bites man' is not news because it's commonplace. But this is more 'man bites dog', something unusual, thus the negative PR and attention.

They should have called it something else, and this would have just been a new amenity that you'd start seeing in apartment lobbies.

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33. "Bodega's market advantage is convenience right?"
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Thu Sep-14-17 05:27 PM by denny

          

Aren't bodega's essentially convenience stores owned by Spanish speaking people?

This business idea ups the ante on consumer convenience so it's targeting the market niche that is most specific to bodegas.

In anycase...the proof is in the pudding because the same conversation is happnening here in Toronto in the absence of the term 'bodega' and the same conflict between advanced vending machine entrepreneurs and convenience stores is happening. In short...bodega owners are not going to like this regardless of what it's called.

  

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34. "RE: Bodega's market advantage is convenience right?"
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No...

they are not just a matter of convenience..

postmates is convenient

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35. "It explicitly says in the article that they want to put bodegas out of b..."
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>Two Ex-Googlers Want To Make Bodegas And Mom-And-Pop Corner Stores >Obsolete

>Paul McDonald, who spent 13 years as a product manager at Google,
>wants to make this corner store a thing of the past. Today, he is
>launching a new concept called Bodega with his cofounder Ashwath
>Rajan, another Google veteran.


They even named the app "Bodega."

  

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36. "the one proposed in toronto "
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Thu Sep-14-17 05:40 PM by denny

          

is called 'cornerstore'. Offensive or not?

It's going to cost jobs and family businesses. My local shop owner was talking about with the customer in front of me a couple weeks ago.

  

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39. "Corner store is a Canadian bodega"
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A name change would help IF they weren't quoted saying they were coming for Bodegas.

IMO they can't compete with Bodegas but why the fuck would you frame your marketing as taking out the "little guy" instead of taking out big box stores or Amazon?

They told on themselves. Investors prolly love the idea but I think their market isn't really the type to go to Bodegas in the first place. Shit sounds like an idea for white women who refuse to shop at Bodegas clbecause they have a cat in the store.

shut up already, damn

  

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30. "lmao.. you didn't read the article did you?"
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shut up already, damn

  

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38. "denny did't read a goddamn thing"
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27. "Finally clicked the link, and I hate that place even before it exists"
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Does everything hipsters touch have to be douche-y, sterilized and Blackman-free?

Fuck that shit. Papi don't give me attitude when I come in to buy cigars.

  

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37. "RE: Bodegas next on the hipster gentrification list"
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Suddenly the radicals are the capitalists and the arch-conservatives are leftists who want to freeze time. It's the 19th century all over again.

  

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