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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"I've always hated our glamorization/romanticizing of Pimping. "


  

          

Never watched fully American Pimp. Never was too into Ice T because of it. Limits my appreciation of Snoop Dogg (don't think he ever should have gotten a pass for showing up on the red carpet of the VMAs with two black women on leashes).

Made me reluctant to watch the Deuce on HBO but caught it last night and it was really good. Also did a good job, I think, of not romanticizing the exploitative and violent nature of pimping.

Anyway, why you think Pimping gets such a pass as something cool, charming or funny in certain segments of our culture?


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*frowns*
Sep 12th 2017
1
replace pimping with drug dealing and i'm with you
Sep 12th 2017
2
So have I.. it's kind of deplorable
Sep 12th 2017
3
is it any different from the "glamorization" of gangster/mafia culture.....
Sep 12th 2017
4
It might not be, which is okay
Sep 12th 2017
11
      oh so you cape'ing right now? carry on. n/m
Sep 12th 2017
12
I'm more bothered by the word "Pimp" than actual pimping...
Sep 12th 2017
5
How do you feel about UGK though?
Sep 12th 2017
6
because it ain't easy?
Sep 12th 2017
7
he ain't got no hoes
Sep 12th 2017
9
pimpin aint easy
Sep 12th 2017
8
hoein is harder
Sep 12th 2017
10
      I always been a little confused and question this
Sep 12th 2017
14
           it's protection.. when a John beats you up
Sep 12th 2017
17
           a lot of women don't
Sep 12th 2017
57
           and a lot of pimps use women to recruit other women
Sep 13th 2017
82
                Like Heidi Fleiss? Or in the case of any 3rd world country, mothers
Sep 13th 2017
86
           most of these women are cutoff from family and friends and are on the...
Sep 12th 2017
62
there's a correlation with game/finesse/charm
Sep 12th 2017
13
before it got misogynistic?
Sep 12th 2017
19
maybe look up the word misogyny
Sep 12th 2017
23
      ehh.. if a hoe came up short on the ave? yeah.. misogyny bruh
Sep 12th 2017
32
pimping existed before the 70s
Sep 12th 2017
22
^^^^
Sep 14th 2017
90
^^^Exhibit A of dumb romanticizing that I am talking about.
Sep 12th 2017
40
      sorry, I was just going off of accounts I've heard
Sep 12th 2017
43
From the State Capitol, to the Nations capitol, from the Pineapple to th...
Sep 12th 2017
15
RE: From the State Capitol, to the Nations capitol, from the Pineapple t...
Sep 13th 2017
79
my boy has a hilarious story about pimping
Sep 12th 2017
16
Was the book "Black Players" perhaps
Sep 12th 2017
66
Legalize sex work. Period.
Sep 12th 2017
18
oldest profession?
Sep 12th 2017
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yes, i remember that post.
Sep 12th 2017
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^^^^exactly
Sep 12th 2017
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yeah but i wouldn't want to see sex workers taxed and regulated
Sep 12th 2017
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lol @ this sentence. Sounds like you got this thought out.
Sep 12th 2017
55
ha.
Sep 12th 2017
58
dont they in some parts of Nevada?
Sep 12th 2017
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      yes.
Sep 12th 2017
70
Sidenote: I was fascinated by the depiction of a Manhattan where
Sep 12th 2017
20
why would you have a problem with human trafficking?
Sep 12th 2017
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Right
Sep 12th 2017
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      yup
Sep 12th 2017
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           Especially when you find out that the parents are the ones doing
Sep 12th 2017
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                Yeah dude, I was about to cry watching some of the video clips.
Sep 12th 2017
68
today's pimping is extreme and needs to be eviscerated
Sep 12th 2017
26
you'd think the Internet would've killed it.
Sep 12th 2017
27
agree w/legalizing it...i figure most would/or have gone into 'dancing'
Sep 12th 2017
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a lot of dancers got pimps too
Sep 12th 2017
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      https://media.tenor.com/images/fb3f2d1e814190100a4ae401b1660d5b/tenor.gi...
Sep 12th 2017
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           haha, there's often a dude in the crowd keeping an eye on her.
Sep 12th 2017
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                damn...prolly the same cats who got the backpage/motel chics
Sep 12th 2017
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                yeah nowadays a lot of chicks sell pussy inside and outside strip clubs....
Sep 12th 2017
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RE: you'd think the Internet would've killed it.
Sep 12th 2017
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a lot of them backpage hoes still have pimps though...
Sep 12th 2017
67
over by Sugar Creek you see women go from young and blonde
Sep 12th 2017
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damn shame
Sep 12th 2017
33
bruh, ole girl looked like a healthy college age becky
Sep 12th 2017
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That's the drugs doing that
Sep 12th 2017
54
and who you think is keeping them highed up?
Sep 12th 2017
59
yo and whats crazy is, when i was down there in the late 80s/early 90s
Sep 12th 2017
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      My Dad called and asked me about Hidden Valley after that episode
Sep 12th 2017
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      lmaoooo first time i heard of HVK i thought it was a joke
Sep 13th 2017
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           when you ride past it it's like "nah.. this ain't no gang shit"
Sep 13th 2017
83
There are no "good old days of pimping". It was always a violent
Sep 12th 2017
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      i didn't say there was a "good old days of pimping" and noted the
Sep 12th 2017
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Humans are dumb and $$ offers from producers make them dumber
Sep 12th 2017
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i remember having the same thought when i learned what it was
Sep 12th 2017
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how much blame does pimping culture share in fatherless homes...
Sep 12th 2017
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less than 5%.
Sep 12th 2017
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0
Sep 12th 2017
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what?
Sep 12th 2017
50
Pimp's exploit women from fatherless homes I imagine.
Sep 12th 2017
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      women w/fathers can get it too.
Sep 12th 2017
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i hate the conditions that made pimping so prevalent.
Sep 12th 2017
56
What conditions? It's supply and demand, Oldest profession
Sep 12th 2017
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Im talking about pimping, not prostitution
Sep 12th 2017
73
yeah like criminalizing sex work and sex workers
Sep 12th 2017
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      sure
Sep 12th 2017
74
Blaxplotiation Films
Sep 12th 2017
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The sex trade hits close to home for me.
Sep 12th 2017
75
damn
Sep 14th 2017
92
It's because you're a customer
Sep 13th 2017
76
its VERY american. detest its mistaken as any measure of blk manhood.
Sep 13th 2017
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There are lesbian now pimps too lol
Sep 13th 2017
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      these lesbians in Charlotte are no joke
Sep 13th 2017
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           is uptown still popping
Sep 13th 2017
85
           Music Factory might be more popular than epicenter now
Sep 13th 2017
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           Kinda off topic but I had a friend who started dating women
Sep 13th 2017
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                Bruh, same sex domestic violence is high as fuck.. like 60 to 70%
Sep 14th 2017
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                     Because they are shitty themselves, though seldom do they ever
Sep 14th 2017
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Pimping = a decidedly tamer form of slavery.
Sep 13th 2017
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I feel Suga Free would but wouldn't be big if he came out today
Sep 13th 2017
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1. "*frowns*"
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For the record, my username is from an Outkast skit.

I don't not (and never have) endorse pimping in any way, shape, or form.

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2. "replace pimping with drug dealing and i'm with you "
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3. "So have I.. it's kind of deplorable "
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I get it that people are free to do with their bodies what they want in that sex isn't a negative… But the way pimping itself is this cried is actually degrading and not something to aspire to. I don't know when the vernacular became something to aspire to as being a player and what not. The meanings behind the language is something that needs to be considered as it's not honorable imho

  

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4. "is it any different from the "glamorization" of gangster/mafia culture....."
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i.e. Scarface, Godfather trilogy, Sopranos, etc?

Squares like to see and fantasize about how those people live, people that are actually about that life like seeing people like themselves in movies & tv.

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11. "It might not be, which is okay"
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but I think in my mind I differentiate because one necessarily involves the violent exploitation of women.


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12. "oh so you cape'ing right now? carry on. n/m"
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"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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5. "I'm more bothered by the word "Pimp" than actual pimping..."
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"Pimp" is too close to "Pimple" for me, not a good word


I agree with B_G in that don't understand the fascination with it. I also don't understand why all the heat is always directed at the pimp, and not the hoes.

  

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6. "How do you feel about UGK though?"
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7. "because it ain't easy?"
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9. "he ain't got no hoes"
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"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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8. "pimpin aint easy"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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10. "hoein is harder"
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14. "I always been a little confused and question this"
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Why do women sign up for this?

How does a woman 'fall into the life' or get 'tricked' in to hooking? In essence aren't pimps glorified because of the women that support them?

Then men are supporting the lifestyle because the idea of controlling someone and making a profit from it makes it appealing.

  

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17. "it's protection.. when a John beats you up"
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or another pimp or some hoes rob you and you have no backup? You ass out.

At least with a pimp you can be like "baby, Pretty Tony gonna fuck you up if you hit me again"

shut up already, damn

  

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57. "a lot of women don't"
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sign up for it, but get caught up by trusting the wrong folks. promises of love, being taken care of, etc. sometimes leads to being drugged, raped, threatened, beating. then you're stuck. lots of young runaways get stuck in pimp life.

that's not to say that some don't just willingly sign up, but I'd suspect that's less than those that get caught up before they realize what's happening.

nah, you trippin

  

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82. "and a lot of pimps use women to recruit other women"
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but shit, these days women are pimping women

shut up already, damn

  

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86. "Like Heidi Fleiss? Or in the case of any 3rd world country, mothers"
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pimping their own daughters?

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62. "most of these women are cutoff from family and friends and are on the..."
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streets by themselves, a pimp can offer them security and a "family" with other whores doing the same thing they're doing.

"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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13. "there's a correlation with game/finesse/charm"
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70s pimps didnt have to lay a hand on a woman
it was kind of on some life coach/mentor shit, women were well provided for with the money they brought in
so if your "pimp hand" was that strong I can see how it was respected before the game got ugly, violent and misogynistic

  

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19. "before it got misogynistic? "
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bruh, that game has always been ugly and misogynistic.

shut up already, damn

  

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23. "maybe look up the word misogyny"
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I wouldnt use that to describe how the pimp game in the 70s has been described

  

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32. "ehh.. if a hoe came up short on the ave? yeah.. misogyny bruh"
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maybe getting them in the game was smoother but I think we glorify the 70's too much.

shut up already, damn

  

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22. "pimping existed before the 70s"
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and b/c prostitutes cannot access the police for help when they need it, they are at the mercy of pimps in most cases and have been since the beginning of __.

the way i see it the only solution to fixing the problem w/exploitation of prostitutes is to legalize the sex trade. all aspects of it. well, except for the sexy kids stuff. b/c...no. but the adult work? it should be perfectly legal and allowed to function out in the open. it can be as discreet as a community demands w/in reasonable limits. but if it's forced into the shadows that just makes it easier for the workers to be exploited by shady characters.

but w/all of the ridiculous pearl-clutching about sex work we're decades/generations from seeing that happen. it should've happened generations ago.

fuck you.

  

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90. "^^^^"
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Our Puritan assed culture passively kills a lot of people

  

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40. "^^^Exhibit A of dumb romanticizing that I am talking about. "
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You can't really be thinking that 70s pimps didn't get violent with women do you?




>70s pimps didnt have to lay a hand on a woman
>it was kind of on some life coach/mentor shit, women were well
>provided for with the money they brought in
>so if your "pimp hand" was that strong I can see how it was
>respected before the game got ugly, violent and misogynistic
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43. "sorry, I was just going off of accounts I've heard"
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you took my reply as romanticizing, where I was more so explaining why it seems fascinating

  

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15. "From the State Capitol, to the Nations capitol, from the Pineapple to th..."
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From the State Capitol, to the Nations capitol, from the Pineapple to the BIG APPLE

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79. "RE: From the State Capitol, to the Nations capitol, from the Pineapple t..."
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16. "my boy has a hilarious story about pimping"
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so he is in Oakland and some dude who was a pimp (or maybe his uncle was a pimp) back in DC walks in walks in. My boy is like "yo, your so and so from DC and calls him his street name. When he says his name the guy looks like "oh shit, you really are from DC"

he invites him to go to a party in Vegas for the weekend. My boy thinks its to chill and when he gets there he realizes it's the Players Ball. So he is chilling with Don Juan and a few other pimps and they are chopping it up and they start talking about books/guides that every pimp should read.

Just so happens my Dad had this book and I stole it from him not even thinking it was some holy grail of books. I can't even remember the name but I let my boy borrow it in college. This fool said he went to kinko's and scanned every page and laminated it in a binder because the book was old as shit. Some shit from the 70's.

Anyway, someone tells my boy to go downstairs to the hotel lobby to get Mike.

My boy has no idea who it is and when he gets downstairs its MIKE FUCKING TYSON and he looked pissed cause everyone was bothering him in the lobby for a pic or autograph. Mike gets on the elevator and it's SILENCE!!! Then Mike turns and ask what they are doing in the hotel room and my boy said politicking or some high ass word for chilling and Mike does this high pitch laugh..

"politicking, heh heh, I like that, I like that word.. yeah.. politicking"

My boy said they tried to get him onto pimping cause they liked the way he handled himself but he ain't about that life.

But he did tell me he saw some young ass pimps who were caked up.. or you know, flashed like they were caked up.

Then he went to visit Don Juan in LA and dude had a real humble 1 bedroom apartment.

I guess it really ain't easy.

shut up already, damn

  

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66. "Was the book &quot;Black Players&quot; perhaps"
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I'm reading it now, pretty fascinating stuff.

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Players-Secret-World-Pimps/dp/0983104905/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505253210&sr=8-1&keywords=black+players

  

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18. "Legalize sex work. Period."
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Tue Sep-12-17 02:48 PM by SoWhat

  

          

All of it. It wouldn't wipe out pimping but it would severely diminish it.

Legalize sex work and open up immigration. Stop forcing hoes and tricks to operate undercover. Let em free.

It's the oldest profession on earth, so they say. Sex sells when cotton and coal won't sell, so they say. They're right. It won't be shamed or legislated out of existence. Let em free.

fuck you.

  

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21. "oldest profession?"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13143096&mesg_id=13143096&listing_type=search


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24. "yes, i remember that post."
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point is - the shit has been around since forever. and it ain't going anywhere. so why do we act so stupid about it?

b/c somebody said somebody's deity is gonna blah blah blah. so we allow folks to be exploited b/c of some fictional shit?

okay.

it's outrageous.

fuck you.

  

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36. "^^^^exactly"
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That would open up a new industry to taxation. Regulations could be set in place that would put a big dent into pimping and sex trafficking.

Workers could be required to get a license, opening a revenue stream for states.

Also, both the worker and the john are less likely to encounter violence since the environments could be controlled.

  

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45. "yeah but i wouldn't want to see sex workers taxed and regulated"
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too much. b/c that would make that underground sex trade still too attractive.

but yeah. legalize it. regulate it - but not out of existence.

fuck you.

  

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55. "lol @ this sentence. Sounds like you got this thought out."
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>Legalize sex work and open up immigration.

I agree tho.

  

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58. "ha."
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b/c sex trafficking that crosses borders usually involves women brought in from foreign countries.

fuck you.

  

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69. "dont they in some parts of Nevada?"
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>All of it. It wouldn't wipe out pimping but it would severely
>diminish it.
>
>Legalize sex work and open up immigration. Stop forcing hoes
>and tricks to operate undercover. Let em free.
>
>It's the oldest profession on earth, so they say. Sex sells
>when cotton and coal won't sell, so they say. They're right.
>It won't be shamed or legislated out of existence. Let em
>free.

  

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70. "yes."
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fuck you.

  

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20. "Sidenote: I was fascinated by the depiction of a Manhattan where "
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poor people of various races could live and/or stay long-term in hotels well below Harlem. I started spending time here and then moved here once gentrification was already well under way, so that's only something I've heard tales of from older people or people who grew up here.

  

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25. "why would you have a problem with human trafficking? "
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in many (probably even most) cases that's exactly what pimping is. you should have a problem with it, because it's a problem.

  

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28. "Right"
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I would imagine what you're referring to is probably much more prevalent than what the majority of folks are referencing (the blaxploitation version) in this thread, especially when children are unfortunately factored into the mix.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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30. "yup"
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even craigslist and backpage hoes got pimps in most cases. they're being exploited and many (most)are forced to participate in this shit.

and don't even get me started on the kids. especially in foreign countries. shit is absolutely disgusting and will make you lose your lunch.

  

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64. "Especially when you find out that the parents are the ones doing "
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the pimping.

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68. "Yeah dude, I was about to cry watching some of the video clips. "
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26. "today's pimping is extreme and needs to be eviscerated"
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i don't know or see or hear about any of the old school pimping

nowadays it seems like it's more of the sex trafficking thing w/ kidnapped young drugged up women


but yeah...niggas wearing floor length furs, hair laid like 4 flats on a lac, and a backhand like John McEnroe...is essentially a character at this point

**shrugs**

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27. "you'd think the Internet would've killed it."
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but i guess not.

or maybe the Internet freed up most of the workers except the most vulnerable. and so pimping is coming down hard on those who're left in its clutches.

one more reason to legalize all of the adult sex industry.

fuck you.

  

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34. "agree w/legalizing it...i figure most would/or have gone into 'dancing'"
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these days as a come up/gig/hustle

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35. "a lot of dancers got pimps too"
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39. "https://media.tenor.com/images/fb3f2d1e814190100a4ae401b1660d5b/tenor.gi..."
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https://media.tenor.com/images/fb3f2d1e814190100a4ae401b1660d5b/tenor.gif




how does that work?

aren't they independent contractors?

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41. "haha, there's often a dude in the crowd keeping an eye on her."
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i just went through a pretty extensive training/presentation on human trafficking. there are definitely independent dancers without pimps, and there are definitely girls who are being forced to dance (in addition to other shit) by someone who is taking advantage of their vulnerability.

  

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48. "damn...prolly the same cats who got the backpage/motel chics"
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they always seem to linger nearby

and for the record...No i don't purchase lol....i happen to live/work near a popular motel that 'employs or allows' those type of workers

their dynamic doesn't 'appear' exploitative tho from the outside looking in

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52. "yeah nowadays a lot of chicks sell pussy inside and outside strip clubs...."
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some of are independent but some do still have pimps, "managers", security or whatsoever for obvious reasons especially if they're meeting up with strange "johns"/customers outside the club or traveling out of town.

Remember that scene in Player's Club when Myron followed Diamond home from the club, a lot of that shit happens for real. (side note: the funniest part about that scene in the movie is after all that commotion she still goes inside and catches her cousin Ebony in bed with her boyfriend like how did they not hear that shit?!lol)

"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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65. "RE: you'd think the Internet would've killed it."
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>those who're left in its clutches.

I see what you did here.

  

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67. "a lot of them backpage hoes still have pimps though..."
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>or maybe the Internet freed up most of the workers except the
>most vulnerable. and so pimping is coming down hard on those
>who're left in its clutches.

"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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31. "over by Sugar Creek you see women go from young and blonde"
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to old and dirty in a matter of weeks. Shit is awful and these pimps are no older than 20.

shut up already, damn

  

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33. "damn shame"
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38. "bruh, ole girl looked like a healthy college age becky"
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and 3 weeks later she was almost unrecognizable

scabs all up and down her legs.

it's a lot of truckers around that area but still, how the fuck you paying money to a girl with a bunch of soars on her legs and feet?

shut up already, damn

  

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54. "That's the drugs doing that"
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59. "and who you think is keeping them highed up?"
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shut up already, damn

  

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71. "yo and whats crazy is, when i was down there in the late 80s/early 90s"
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that area u talkn about was just some average type shit. they had a red roof over there and another hotel across the street and they werent bad at all. right up off sugar creek was a middle class neighborhood called hidden valley which was a nice decent neighborhood. fast fwd a few years ago and there is a special on gangs that talked about a "violent street gang" outta charlotte called the hidden valley kings lol. they turned that nice neighborhood into the straight up hood. i saw that episode and i was like WHAT??? these niggas got a gang episode dedicated to them like they were the compton pirus or some shit smh. but yeah that area went down bad in probably the mid-late 90s. uncc was 10 mins from there so we used to go there and hit up the fast food spots.

edit: peep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEB0RHXKxnw


>to old and dirty in a matter of weeks. Shit is awful and
>these pimps are no older than 20.
>
>

  

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72. "My Dad called and asked me about Hidden Valley after that episode "
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I had no idea. It looks like a regular middle class neighborhood.

shut up already, damn

  

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81. "lmaoooo first time i heard of HVK i thought it was a joke"
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we were watching gangland. and dude asked if i had ever seen the charlotte gangland ep. after about 45 secs of hard laughter he had it pulled up and i couldn't believe it.

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83. "when you ride past it it's like "nah.. this ain't no gang shit""
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but when you watch the news and see these dudes running up in witnesses houses in Lake Norman and killing folks execution style? shiiieeeet.

shut up already, damn

  

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42. "There are no "good old days of pimping". It was always a violent"
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brutal exploitative trade.

It was always sex trafficking, we are just more enlightened now.



>i don't know or see or hear about any of the old school
>pimping
>
>nowadays it seems like it's more of the sex trafficking thing
>w/ kidnapped young drugged up women
>
>
>but yeah...niggas wearing floor length furs, hair laid like 4
>flats on a lac, and a backhand like John McEnroe...is
>essentially a character at this point
>
>**shrugs**


**********
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44. "i didn't say there was a "good old days of pimping" and noted the"
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violence associated with those days

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29. "Humans are dumb and $$ offers from producers make them dumber"
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That would be why I believe some in our culture embrace it. Same can be said for drug dealing.

American Pimp was good though. If we're talking about the Hughes Brothers film. Didn't glorify it at all IMO

  

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37. "i remember having the same thought when i learned what it was "
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i thought a pimp was just a dude with a bunch of girls for his personal use. When i found out what he really was, i was like wait, why is this guy cool again?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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46. "how much blame does pimping culture share in fatherless homes..."
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in the black community?

  

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47. "less than 5%."
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fuck you.

  

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49. "0"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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50. "what?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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51. "Pimp's exploit women from fatherless homes I imagine. "
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But I don't think that explains the glamorization of it for everyone else.



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53. "women w/fathers can get it too."
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fuck you.

  

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56. "i hate the conditions that made pimping so prevalent."
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pimping is a symptom of a bigger issue.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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60. "What conditions? It's supply and demand, Oldest profession"
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shut up already, damn

  

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73. "Im talking about pimping, not prostitution "
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The two aren't mutually inclusive concepts. One is inherently violent and misogynist, the other is merely sex work.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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61. "yeah like criminalizing sex work and sex workers"
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and the stigma attached to sex work.

fuck you.

  

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74. "sure "
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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63. "Blaxplotiation Films "
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Pimps = Antiheros

  

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75. "The sex trade hits close to home for me."
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My uncle is a pimp. He was actually featured in American Pimp.

He's one of the most heartless cowards I've ever met in my life. He's also one of the most charismatic and intelligent people I've met.

My oldest cousin has been a prostitute since the early 90s. She's about as fucked up emotionally as you'd imagine, after all the things she's been through. She's also one of the most affectionate and honest people in my family.

Shit is complicated.

-30-
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92. "damn "
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>My uncle is a pimp. He was actually featured in American
>Pimp.
>
>He's one of the most heartless cowards I've ever met in my
>life. He's also one of the most charismatic and intelligent
>people I've met.
>
>My oldest cousin has been a prostitute since the early 90s.
>She's about as fucked up emotionally as you'd imagine, after
>all the things she's been through. She's also one of the most
>affectionate and honest people in my family.
>
>Shit is complicated.

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76. "It's because you're a customer"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWFVQtg6eDU

Just playing - pimps are lame role models.

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2.tears.in.a.bucket
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77. "its VERY american. detest its mistaken as any measure of blk manhood."
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the men i admired had zero problems piqueing a woman's interest w/charm, but they were all skilled tradesman that provided for their fam w/o subjecting women to sex work.

and them niggas KEPT a dollar.

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ThaTruth
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80. "There are lesbian now pimps too lol"
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legsdiamond
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84. "these lesbians in Charlotte are no joke"
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and when I used to hit up the little hood bar the stories were crazy as shit.

These women tear up these strip clubs now. It's usually more women than dudes in them now.

shut up already, damn

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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85. "is uptown still popping"
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or is there a better club now.

epicenter -> uptown cabaret -> midnight diner was a very common night for us back when my buddies lived down there.

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legsdiamond
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87. "Music Factory might be more popular than epicenter now"
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everything still ends at Midnite Diner.


I got kids now so ionno.

shut up already, damn

  

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Buddy_Gilapagos
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88. "Kinda off topic but I had a friend who started dating women"
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because she was through with the games that guys were putting her through.

Why was the lesbian chick the first person she dated that put hands on her though?



>and when I used to hit up the little hood bar the stories
>were crazy as shit.
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>These women tear up these strip clubs now. It's usually more
>women than dudes in them now.


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legsdiamond
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91. "Bruh, same sex domestic violence is high as fuck.. like 60 to 70%"
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and one thing I noticed is when a female says she left dudes alone cause they were messy, playing games, cheating, etc...

they ALWAYS end up with a female version of the dudes they swore they would never date PLUS they usually have to fight their way out of the relationship.

some people like/attract shitty people.

shut up already, damn

  

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Shaun Tha Don
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93. "Because they are shitty themselves, though seldom do they ever "
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think that maybe, just maybe, they themselves are the problem.

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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Shaun Tha Don
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78. "Pimping = a decidedly tamer form of slavery."
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"Tamer," only because it involves women.

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-DJ R-Tistic-
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89. "I feel Suga Free would but wouldn't be big if he came out today"
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Like, because of social media, he wouldn't have remained local, and woulda got the respect and love he deserved....BUT, feminists and just regular folks would haaaaaaaaaaaaaate him. It was so much more acceptable back then.

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