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legsdiamond
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"so.. bigots AND Kap supporters are boycotting the NFL?"


          

Every time I see a photo of a player kneeling down I see bigots online screaming they are done with the NFL.

and on FB and on OKP I see a few people boycotting because Kap is out of the league...

y'all hanging out at Chik Fil A parking lots or nah?

shut up already, damn

  

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Sounds like a good thing. They need to feel it in their pockets
Sep 11th 2017
1
I doubt they will tho...
Sep 11th 2017
2
same, but you never know.
Sep 11th 2017
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      yeah, this isn't the same thing at all fam
Sep 11th 2017
4
           my point is sometimes a small movement grows into a larger one
Sep 11th 2017
5
hurt pockets or not...
Sep 11th 2017
7
I was talking to a lady at work...
Sep 11th 2017
6
"that aint my fight"
Sep 11th 2017
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why?
Sep 11th 2017
10
it's dismissive of fights that should be everyone's fight
Sep 11th 2017
13
      whats your justification for not boycotting?
Sep 11th 2017
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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veOlmLR8uas
Sep 11th 2017
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      not my preferred method of caring
Sep 11th 2017
51
           Word
Sep 11th 2017
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      let's agree to disagree..
Sep 11th 2017
20
           not my fight sounds like people are saying its not in their place to do
Sep 11th 2017
26
                one earth and a billion realities Cen
Sep 11th 2017
29
                women's wage equality? Not my fight
Sep 11th 2017
62
                     Bruh.. she really is All Lives Matter tho
Sep 11th 2017
65
                     wow
Sep 13th 2017
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                     I understand...
Sep 11th 2017
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                exactly
Sep 11th 2017
49
In the history of responses, even...
Sep 11th 2017
30
out of respect for all the other players taking a knee this year
Sep 11th 2017
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Does watching not feel weird to you?
Sep 11th 2017
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      if I may...
Sep 11th 2017
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      I'm not moved. I'm offended and black
Sep 11th 2017
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      maybe you aren't aware of the goings on in the NFL
Sep 11th 2017
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      well, its' pretty easy to reconcile because it's football..
Sep 11th 2017
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           RE: well, its' pretty easy to reconcile because it's football..
Sep 11th 2017
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                As a Steeler fan I feel real good about the owners of my team
Sep 11th 2017
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                     One thing that can't be taken away from ya'll
Sep 11th 2017
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                     also the first Black QB in the NFL after the AFL-NFL merger in 1974
Sep 11th 2017
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                     Fair enough.
Sep 11th 2017
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                          definitely.. but I will watch another game if I feel like it
Sep 11th 2017
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All lives matter lmao
Sep 11th 2017
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      you corny nm
Sep 11th 2017
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      Duh.
Sep 11th 2017
23
      Your all lives matter angle is much worse
Sep 11th 2017
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           leg's...it's not a sales pitch
Sep 11th 2017
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                Don't care. Saying All Lives is dumb as redundant and unnecessary
Sep 11th 2017
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                     like going to a leukemia march and screaming
Sep 11th 2017
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                          lmao.. right?
Sep 12th 2017
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      damn
Sep 11th 2017
54
explain like i'm 5: tv ratings
Sep 11th 2017
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do they need Neilson boxes since they went digital?
Sep 11th 2017
12
never understood nielsen ratings. Always felt outdated and inaccurate.
Sep 11th 2017
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Your viewership doesn't matter if I'm not mistaken re:nielson
Sep 11th 2017
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Stastistics analysis.
Sep 11th 2017
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for me it's not the ratings.
Sep 11th 2017
32
from what i understand....
Sep 11th 2017
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does the NFL earn revenue for eyes on screen or from advertisements
Sep 11th 2017
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yup, I ain't going to any games...
Sep 11th 2017
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      yep...and this is the 1st year where i can legit go to multiple games
Sep 11th 2017
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      I have no desire to go to an NFL game
Sep 11th 2017
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not that it matters, (maybe it does)
Sep 11th 2017
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not for nothin but the Sunday Night Football anthem kills that.
Sep 11th 2017
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Damn they brought him back
Sep 11th 2017
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ESPN fired all those folks and brought him back? smh...
Sep 11th 2017
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      Exactly.
Sep 11th 2017
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nobody gonna care
Sep 11th 2017
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Jerry Jones is disappointed if you don't stand
Sep 11th 2017
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Who the NFL appeases to will tell you which fans they care about
Sep 11th 2017
47
women? White women?
Sep 11th 2017
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that's been the case since forever tho
Sep 11th 2017
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      also much more turnover in the NFL
Sep 11th 2017
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           it's not 'talking shit'...i GUARANTEE a whole heap of niggas could care
Sep 11th 2017
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                Poor choice of words on my part.
Sep 11th 2017
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                     it's the mindset...10-15 outta ___
Sep 11th 2017
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                          Damn, I watched the Cleveland game but missed the beginning
Sep 11th 2017
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                          how are basketball players not as easily 'replaced'... ESPECIALLY in
Sep 11th 2017
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                               Bruh, how do you replace a Lebron or a Steph?
Sep 11th 2017
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                          I agree that mindset and indoctrination is a big part of it
Sep 11th 2017
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                          agreed...but they don't need ALL or even most...hell barely some
Sep 11th 2017
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                               True
Sep 11th 2017
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                          ***cough***. What a day
Sep 23rd 2017
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I support Colin but I still watch
Sep 11th 2017
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Yup... and honestly
Sep 11th 2017
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basically
Sep 12th 2017
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      "it was on where I was but I ain't pay attention"
Sep 12th 2017
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           i watched but kept the tv on mute
Sep 12th 2017
87
           'i had it on in the background but i was doin other stuff'
Sep 12th 2017
88
                my sister has it and gave me her other pass for my phone
Sep 13th 2017
90
easiest boycott of my life.
Sep 11th 2017
64
hmm... I see this a lot
Sep 11th 2017
67
Like rednecks in Missouri boycotting Hamilton
Sep 12th 2017
82
      yup, somehow they will feel it on Broadway tho.. somehow
Sep 12th 2017
85
RE: easiest boycott of my life.
Sep 12th 2017
83
Exactly.
Sep 24th 2017
102
just bet on it... fk watching it
Sep 11th 2017
69
Still Unanswered: Why hasn't the NFL met with Kaepernick
Sep 11th 2017
79
thank you for your contribution
Sep 12th 2017
80
Really good article on Kap (too long to swipe)
Sep 13th 2017
91
Thx, looks like a good read.
Sep 13th 2017
92
Trump is making it harder to sit this debate out. for players especially...
Sep 23rd 2017
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i see people who previously didnt like the players taking a knee
Sep 23rd 2017
95
michael rappaport been the voice of liberal america lately lol
Sep 23rd 2017
96
trump done got ray lewis to kneel
Sep 24th 2017
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This fool on both knees.
Sep 24th 2017
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      gotta make up for lost dignity.
Sep 24th 2017
99
aaron rogers just posted this on ig. look who else commented:
Sep 24th 2017
100
Even Kraft is “deeply disappointed” with 45’s comments.
Sep 24th 2017
101
fuck Robert Kraft.
Sep 24th 2017
103
This is turning out pretty awesome.
Sep 24th 2017
104
these dipshits booing during the anthem
Sep 24th 2017
105
yuuuup
Sep 24th 2017
107
Two national anthem singers take knees at NFL games
Sep 24th 2017
106
joe buck did some sucker shit during the eagles game.
Sep 24th 2017
108

Atillah Moor
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1. "Sounds like a good thing. They need to feel it in their pockets "
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2. "I doubt they will tho..."
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shut up already, damn

  

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3. "same, but you never know. "
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Folks thought those bus boycotts wouldn't amount to anything as well

  

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4. "yeah, this isn't the same thing at all fam"
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shut up already, damn

  

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5. "my point is sometimes a small movement grows into a larger one"
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organically. I keep hearing that other players are following Kaps example, that right there could grow into something

https://youtu.be/s18WO484JTA?t=20

  

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7. "hurt pockets or not..."
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i KNOW how and how not to spend MY energy

  

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6. "I was talking to a lady at work..."
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told her it's about to go down..
bills vs panthers
she goes, "you're not boycotting"
me: "nah. that ain't my fight"

she was like "oh"

  

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8. ""that aint my fight""
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the white slogan since forever

gotta be the worst response ever lol

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10. "why?"
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13. "it's dismissive of fights that should be everyone's fight"
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the boycott is isn't just about Kap

it's about the reasons he was kneeling in the first place

"not my fight" is just dismissive apathy

i don't really care if people are down with the boycott (i'm not) but that justification is cringeworthy

it's individualistic apathy combined with small picture perspective

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14. "whats your justification for not boycotting? "
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shut up already, damn

  

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17. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veOlmLR8uas"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veOlmLR8uas

  

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51. "not my preferred method of caring"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

Building repetoires (c) spm since 1983

  

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57. "Word"
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shut up already, damn

  

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20. "let's agree to disagree.."
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im uncomfortable with "you" determining what "everyone" should fight for.
it's personal. If it's based on others then I question what you're standing up for...

they'll be folks with you and without...



  

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26. "not my fight sounds like people are saying its not in their place to do"
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something about the situation. but that's false, it can be everyone's fight or place to do something.

I think more accurate is to say " I don't care" lol

But technically, it should be everyone's fight bc some stuff just goes against basic humanity and decency.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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29. "one earth and a billion realities Cen "
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62. "women's wage equality? Not my fight"
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you can not be for the boycott and still be for the fight

if you are black...it's likely your fight...

that's why i said dismissive...bc it's ok to not fight the fight as others do or to pick different ways to fight...

but not my fight either says..."the issue is not an issue (to me)" rather than "i don't want to suppor the fight that way"

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65. "Bruh.. she really is All Lives Matter tho"
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so it's not like she doesn't know what she is saying.

shut up already, damn

  

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89. "wow"
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this is wild to me

i've never heard someone basically say

"just bc im black doesn't mean i should be concerned about black rights"

like holy shit lol

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78. "I understand..."
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In essence I guess it does mean I don't care. My thing is this though..your determination of a person blackness or womanliness because they don't support a cause. Like, its should be automatic...

Our differences are philosophical so I don't know if we'll ever agree. I'm cool tho. I believe whatever you're standing up for, you should be moved or driven to act. I mean, you know the feeling, lol (like, the same feeling you have in your responses to me) You can't just go blindly...because you're black - then it become just numbers. Shit, that's what happen with Judas lol

I respect what's going on but, nah I'm not with it just because I'm black...

  

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49. "exactly"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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30. "In the history of responses, even... "
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9. "out of respect for all the other players taking a knee this year"
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I'm watching.

also feel like the only people boycotting are the people who were on their way out to begin with..

and that's cool for them.

but I'm watching.

shut up already, damn

  

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22. "Does watching not feel weird to you?"
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Like really weird?

Here's why I am. I was watching curling on TV some months ago, just curling. And it was Team USA vs Team Canada or China (can't remember). But this was may just a month or two after the election and watching that fandom, just felt super uncomfortable. It doesn't help how white curling is as a sport and fanbase, but it just felt weird.


As far as the NFL, I don't really watch. I've always been more of a college football fan and the NFL is just for social events. But a few months ago I started thinking about why that man doesn't have a job. For lightweight saying "cops should stop killing black people" and the owners and police are like nah, that's not a cause we can get behind. And on the face the fact that he doesn't have a job is silly, but the more I've thought about it the more the message from the top down is "we're ok with the state of police violence" ... and I just can't. I just couldn't ride with that.

So in all sincerity, how do you reconcile with that?

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27. "if I may..."
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what's weird...different is expecting everyone to be moved because you are. martyrdom does not come without consequence...

  

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31. "I'm not moved. I'm offended and black"
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In the same way that numerous black people stopped fucking with Cracker Barrel or Journeys or Dennys.

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74. "maybe you aren't aware of the goings on in the NFL"
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wife beaters - playing
accused of rape - playing
attempt murder before the super bowl - playing
drugs/alcohol/steroids - playing

kneeling for black equality - owners scrambling like randall cunningham

its so blatantly disrespectful...
even if someone signed kaep now... its over

i'm a giants fan... the giants had just signed that kicker who had been beating the shit out his wife. when he said he got letters from fans and wouldnt ever think about signing a kneeler....

i was done

yall go ahead and cook. though

they tell trans they cant use the bathroom of their choice...shit gets shut down

you say the f-word or some other homophobic remark and you going down...

but n words???... u can do anything to n words and they take it smiling and supporting

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33. "well, its' pretty easy to reconcile because it's football.. "
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it's entertainment. Just like rap, rock n roll, movies, etc...

I applaud anyone who sticks to their convictions and boycotts every industry/company as soon as they see an injustice. But that ain't me.

However, folks who say "I watch college cause.."

How many college players knelt this weekend?

sorry, if you watch college you are watching a sport that is worse than the NFL when it comes to exploiting Balc players and shitting on Black coaches. The people in charge of the NCAA aren't any better than the NFL.

and the NFL players are still free to kneel so I don't get the boycott. I could see if they stopped kneeling in the NFL but that isn't the case.

shut up already, damn

  

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35. "RE: well, its' pretty easy to reconcile because it's football.. "
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>How many college players knelt this weekend?
>
>sorry, if you watch college you are watching a sport that is
>worse than the NFL when it comes to exploiting Balc players
>and shitting on Black coaches. The people in charge of the
>NCAA aren't any better than the NFL.


Exploitation is a different issue.
I think the labor union for the NFL is exploitative as well as the combine, but I didn't boycott because of that. Same way I don't boycott NCAA basketball.
I think the NFL exploits cities and tax bases on stadium deals, I didn't stop watching because of that either.

I'm talking explicitly about the content providers (the owners) black balling an entertainer because of his views and stance on black deaths via the hands of police. Now if it had been veganism, or hell even a war, I probably wouldn't feel so personal. But in this case the owners are siding with the tragedy. A tragedy that reflects me and could touch me at any time.

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38. "As a Steeler fan I feel real good about the owners of my team"
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we started the Rooney Rule
Rooney came out and publicly supported Obama
gave Mike Vick AND Plexico a job
and we were the only team to vote against the current CBA

so nah... I wouldn't say every owner feels the way the Baltimore Raves and the Seahawks do.

While some teams need a QB, others do not so it's not a "every owner is against Kap" type situation.

shut up already, damn

  

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39. "One thing that can't be taken away from ya'll"
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>we started the Rooney Rule
>Rooney came out and publicly supported Obama
>gave Mike Vick AND Plexico a job
>and we were the only team to vote against the current CBA

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40. "also the first Black QB in the NFL after the AFL-NFL merger in 1974"
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the fuck I look like boycotting cause 10 to 15 other teams won't sign Kap? This might be the last season Bell, Bryant, Brown and Ben play together.

Fuuuck that.

Plus, I still wonder if Kap is boycotting or sitting back watching these games while eating popcorn.

Did he even ask us to boycott?

shut up already, damn

  

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45. "Fair enough."
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So would you say you're watching the Steelers more than the league?

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48. "definitely.. but I will watch another game if I feel like it"
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I watch college too.

I'm from Pittsburgh. We are born into this shit B.



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18. "All lives matter lmao "
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>told her it's about to go down..
>bills vs panthers
>she goes, "you're not boycotting"
>me: "nah. that ain't my fight"
>
>she was like "oh"
>
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21. "you corny nm"
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23. "Duh."
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58. "Your all lives matter angle is much worse "
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shut up already, damn

  

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60. "leg's...it's not a sales pitch"
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I don't need validation because the opinion is mine...




  

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68. "Don't care. Saying All Lives is dumb as redundant and unnecessary "
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shut up already, damn

  

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75. "like going to a leukemia march and screaming"
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"all cancers matter"

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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81. "lmao.. right?"
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shut up already, damn

  

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54. "damn"
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shut up already, damn

  

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11. "explain like i'm 5: tv ratings"
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how does the nfl know whether or not EYE watched a game? i don't have a nielson ratings box or any other kind of ratings box.

  

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12. "do they need Neilson boxes since they went digital? "
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16. "never understood nielsen ratings. Always felt outdated and inaccurate."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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19. "Your viewership doesn't matter if I'm not mistaken re:nielson "
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>how does the nfl know whether or not EYE watched a game? i
>don't have a nielson ratings box or any other kind of ratings
>box.

The ratings are based on mostly (largely) middle american white families. So if it's affecting ratings that's who's not tuning in. Linda and Bobby Lee Wheatstrom

  

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24. "Stastistics analysis."
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It's like polling. They derive group statistics based on sample analysis.

  

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32. "for me it's not the ratings."
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b/c i'm not in a Nielsen household.

but it is about Internet clicks for me. i'm avoiding those.

i'm considering not watching (i haven't so far...but i'm struggling...the shit is like drugs and i'm jonesing) b/c i keep thinking about what i'm 'supporting' by engaging w/the NFL. and i'm increasingly bothered by it. Colin's situation and especially the Ravens statement about not signing him was the tipping point. i'm just sickened by the whole enterprise.

but damn.

i see how many NFL tentacles i have around me. at work i checked out of the fantasy league a couple of years ago b/c i already know i don't want to play at being an NFL team exec. and frankly not having to get up early on Sunday to watch tv coverage and keep track of injured players and who's available and how my guys are doing is a bit of a relief. yes, winning at fantasy was great (i won 2 - 2 different leagues. b/c i'm The Shit) but not doing it is fine w/me. i don't miss it. but anyway, here at work there is a Survivor League and i decided not to participate this year (so far). ppl here are talking all about the games yesterday. the games are all over tv...but i have dozens of channels to watch. my family talks about the NFL. my friends are watching but some are also not watching in protest and some never watched. my mom watches. the shit is powerful. and really it's kind of microcosm of America. right down to the slave auction feeling w/the way players are 'bought' and 'traded' and whatever. and then one of them makes a little wave and this is the fucking reaction? fuck that shit.

anyway.

i'm thinking about avoiding it all just b/c i'm a bit disgusted by all of the scandal. the crimes players commit or just caught up in...the danger the players face (they all accept it but still)...the way the execs treat the players. all of the fucking MONEY being made by a small number of ppl. all of whom are hardcore Trump supporters, btw. they represent the worst of the 1%. everything you can think of - that's them. immensely powerful too. the NFL's power over various aspects of American society...i mean, SHIT. it's absurd. and for what?

i dig football generally (increasingly bothered though b/c that CTE shit is for real and i just...i dunno, man). and i like the NFL (college is great and also problematic). but...i dunno.

and the owners just don't give a FUCK about any of this. that's the worst part. they're not even trying to make this better. b/c they know they don't have to.

i want them to want to have to give a fuck.

and i know my watching won't make them.

which just makes me really not want to watch.

b/c...fuck them.

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77. "from what i understand...."
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the ratings are calculated based on whether or not your tv is on and tuned into a particular program. So....if you're actively boycotting the NFL, the best plan is to watch a network that's not showing the game.

Networks use their ratings to justify the prices on their ad buys. If the ratings go down, the ad prices eventually could have to change to reflect. If advertisers are pulling out of specific programming, that could lead a network to stop carrying the program.

With the NFL, I would suggest people don't buy anything that directly goes to the NFL or its teams as well as not watching the games through an official source (CBS, Fox, ESPN, NFL Network). Just bootleg that shit off Kodi.

It doesn't seem like a lot, but numbers eventually add up if done correctly and consistently.
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15. "does the NFL earn revenue for eyes on screen or from advertisements"
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or both?

i don't see how you can get paid per view
they have whole ass games on twitter now

i'm boycotting by not buying tix and merch
i can't not watch and don't see how that is gonna hurt them

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25. "yup, I ain't going to any games..."
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or shopping at the NFL shop...but I'm watching football, man. Hell, I was pulling hard as shit for Michael Bennett yesterday and I'm not even a Seahawk fan.

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28. "yep...and this is the 1st year where i can legit go to multiple games"
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but won't

especially for my team...i didn't cop merch that ray rice debacle season

waited till last year to re-up...now this lol

but yeah...imo...hit certain sponsors/advertisers and don't contribute any $$$$ to THEM

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34. "I have no desire to go to an NFL game"
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even when the tickets are free. The TV experience is much more fun (although tailgating is the shit).

shut up already, damn

  

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36. "not that it matters, (maybe it does)"
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but for all yall that do NOT boycott the NFL, let's give an effort to see how the response is for MNF's "are you ready for the football?" theme by the newly resigned Hank Williams Jr. does...


  

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37. "not for nothin but the Sunday Night Football anthem kills that."
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i dunno if they still have what's-her-face from Idol doing it but they got a good one there.

hell, the whole Sunday Night Football thing on NBC is genius. i hope whomever came up w/that idea got a new yacht. b/c it's perfect.

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41. "Damn they brought him back"
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Is ESPN so no surprise.

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42. "ESPN fired all those folks and brought him back? smh..."
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well, I'll boycott that song.

shut up already, damn

  

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46. "Exactly."
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but they did hire Limbaugh back in the day, so I should have seen this coming.

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43. "nobody gonna care"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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44. "Jerry Jones is disappointed if you don't stand"
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/22/jerry-jones-players-protest-national-anthem-protest

You can take a selfie protesting and protest.

https://act.colorofchange.org/sign/how-do-you-show-game-day/?source=ad_fb_chargers_091017

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47. "Who the NFL appeases to will tell you which fans they care about"
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>Every time I see a photo of a player kneeling down I see
>bigots online screaming they are done with the NFL.
>
>and on FB and on OKP I see a few people boycotting because Kap
>is out of the league...
>
>y'all hanging out at Chik Fil A parking lots or nah?

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50. "women? White women? "
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seems like the NFL has made a huge push for women for obvious reasons.

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52. "that's been the case since forever tho"
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something that doesn't get talked about enough is there is a difference in the pedigree(and paycheck) of today's modern black nfl player and let's say.....idk....the nba


nfl niggas today are what the nba dudes of the 80s n early 90s are...keep quiet and get these checks cause ain't none of them protesters gonna be able to pay me... or provide me all these yt girls



nba cats today don't have that same fear because of more financial security and a VERY open-minded commissioner and they realize THEY are the product thus have the power... NFL is all about team this, team that, the shield, the logo etc...and it's run for, of, and by...old southern/midwest yt men and all of their principles and ideologies

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53. "also much more turnover in the NFL"
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53 players vs 12. It's much easier to talk shit when your money is guaranteed and you can win games damn near all by yourself.

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55. "it's not 'talking shit'...i GUARANTEE a whole heap of niggas could care"
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less abt police brutality/kneeling/Kaep and even further BELIEVE in the same shit their coaches and talkin heads are spewing...Essentially there are PLENTY of Shady McCoy's and wayyyyyyyyyyy less Bennett Bros


hell ALL the nba players didn't come out n speak out...

the top ones did

i ain't heard shit from OBJ...Dez gave niggas his ass to kiss...AB corny ass tryin to be Russell Westbrook and only worried abt him...Cam is a coon ...Von Miller **crickets**
i can continue?

bubble players or 'trouble' players like a idk....Zeke...i wouldn't expect to be on the front lines like that

NONE of them would be in financial trouble if they knealt, spoke out or gaf in general

but i would bet my paycheck most don't know...don't show...or don't care what goes on outside of their insulated world




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56. "Poor choice of words on my part. "
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However, when you got the top stars making 20 mill a year Guaranteed? It's much easier to speak up about politics.

But as we type this I can prolly say a good 15 to 30 dudes have knelt over the weekend in the NFL and a few white players have stood next to them in support.

Not sure if it's the team/military mindset that has more NFL players staying silent or maybe it's because there are less basketball players.

How many basketball players are kneeling?



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61. "it's the mindset...10-15 outta ___"
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nba wise they ain't kneeling
that was the nfl/kaep strategy

and i'm not saying cats gotta kneel...yt or black
but they damn sure ain't quiet or silenced abt social issues or whatever the hell they want tbh


but NFL niggas are indoctrinated with/brainwashed by the 'shut up and play' mentality....and it shows


look at the goofy shit w/ Cleveland...We gonna lock arms in unity with these same people who are paid to protect and serve...currently we have protests against how they treat people...they said they won't protect n serve us no more...now we are all together, arm in arm to show unity

if they don't get ALL the fuck the way outta here with that bullshit

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63. "Damn, I watched the Cleveland game but missed the beginning"
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I bet that was due to 12 players kneeling in the preseason.

still think NBA isn't a good comparison because it's not like you can move on when 2 or 3 of your stars speak up. They pretty much hire and fire coaches due to some of the best players in the NBA voicing complaints.

I feel you tho... I wonder if it's due to having so many players and a much shorter window to earn money?

Also, with helmets it gets much harder to put faces on these guys. How many people boycotting could point out Michael Bennet in a photo right now? I watch a shit load of football and I couldn't tell you more than half the players without their jersey on.

and one more thing. Yes, 10 to 15 out of 1600

But how many basketball players are speaking up out of 300 or so? Those basketball players aren't as easy to replace as football players. I definitely wish more Black QB's would speak up but like you said, niggas ain't built like that in the NFL. I wonder what the real reason is? Ant just be team first mentality.

shut up already, damn

  

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70. "how are basketball players not as easily 'replaced'... ESPECIALLY in"
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today's nba?

because of roster size? lol


i will say the dichotomy between Stern and Silver (similar to Goodell and Silver or Right vs Left or Cons vs Lib) are probably the underlying reason for the nba player freedom on top of their union...but the number of players??...nah not really


in the end you(NFL) need MORE players speaking out collectively...
yet they are silent
but let it be cancer...or natural disaster...or **checks today's date**



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73. "Bruh, how do you replace a Lebron or a Steph?"
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I think having less players on your team makes it easier for you to speak up since you can't replace that type of production.

Steph and Bron speaking up won't get them on their owners shit list.

I will say that even tho the Pats won look how many players refused to go to the WH? Many were outspoken immediately after the game too.

I just think NBA vs NFL is a lil different.

shut up already, damn

  

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66. "I agree that mindset and indoctrination is a big part of it"
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and you've gotta throw the fans into that indictment. Fans push the idea that every player is expendable ("next man up!") as hard as the coaches and owners.... but the coaches and owners know that isn't true because they'll bend over backwards to cater to players that contribute greatly to winning or the bottom line.

If the average players are expendable, so are their views. And that gives the NFL owners and coaches the cover to just throw away players that aren't contributing enough to the bottom line or winning.

I still can't deny the financial aspect though... the lack of financial security is certainly keeping alot of players quiet. Considering the long term health risks, I think I'd need $5-10 million in the bank to really feel financially secure in the NFL.

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71. "agreed...but they don't need ALL or even most...hell barely some"
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but a few Big named/league/club representing level players to do so

and they got a bag secured

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Coolin...

  

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72. "True"
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<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->

  

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93. "***cough***. What a day"
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Coolin...

  

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59. "I support Colin but I still watch"
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Bengals should sign him after the game Dalton had... bout to throw 68+ INTs this season.

  

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76. "Yup... and honestly "
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It feels like most people who are boycotting weren't huge fans to begin with so it's an easy sacrifice.

Hard to see how it hurts the NFL when folks barely watched to begin with.

It's like boycotting Chik Fil A when you only went 3 times a year. Ok. They really gonna miss you and change their ways? Has to be more than that. Not saying folks aren't doing lore but I see some folks who act like they really putting in work by not watching some shit they didn't really care about.

Now those who loved football and boycotted. More power to you.

shut up already, damn

  

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84. "basically"
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if i'm boycotting anything, it's gonna be because of all the stupid stoppages and over-marketing. i just wanna see something fluid.

these living room twitter activists on both sides of the aisle who say they're boycotting are probably still *following* every major sports outlet/writer/athlete in their feed. i'm taking nunnadem seriously.

  

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86. " "it was on where I was but I ain't pay attention" "
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GTFOH

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87. "i watched but kept the tv on mute"
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and listened to the radio broadcast.

that'll show them!

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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88. "'i had it on in the background but i was doin other stuff'"
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what's funny is there's mad deals to be had. i renewed sunday ticket max for only $100 just by calling dtv up and being like look muhfuckas, i've had it for 10 years straight.... i ain't paying full price while you sitting there giving it to new subs for free.

  

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90. "my sister has it and gave me her other pass for my phone"
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life changer bruh..





shut up already, damn

  

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64. "easiest boycott of my life."
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i was never a huge football fan to begin with, but the Raiders are leaving California, so #TeamKap

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You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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67. "hmm... I see this a lot"
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People who were already not that interested who are now boycotting.

shut up already, damn

  

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82. "Like rednecks in Missouri boycotting Hamilton"
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There are dozens of us! Dozens!

  

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85. "yup, somehow they will feel it on Broadway tho.. somehow"
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shut up already, damn

  

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83. "RE: easiest boycott of my life."
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>i was never a huge football fan to begin with, but the
>Raiders are leaving California, so #TeamKap

the raider nation ostensible boycott was pretty funny actually.

"they're moving?! i'm sooo done with them!!!"

3 days later... season tickets to the oakland coliseum are sold out for 2017.

  

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102. "Exactly. "
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It's not that hard to boycott a wack ass sport.

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@blassfemur

  

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69. "just bet on it... fk watching it"
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get yo pockets up...fk them

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be about it or be without it

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79. "Still Unanswered: Why hasn't the NFL met with Kaepernick"
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And said "hey, we having extreme financial power in 31 large american cities, how can we act to solve all of these issues together?"

All the rest is a distraction..

-He isn't Aaron Rodgers
-But in my workplace
-We want to hear him plead for a job
-Its disrespectful to soldiers
-My paw-paw served
-Cut his hair
-Get his woman in line
-But he made racist whites not watch too (This is some bitch ass shit you posted by the way)

All very weak distractions from the real points of contention that Kaepernick, right today, is working to solve.

  

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80. "thank you for your contribution"
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shut up already, damn

  

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91. "Really good article on Kap (too long to swipe)"
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2732670-colin-kaepernick-anthem-race-in-america

I like how it dispels the preferred narrative that he's a dumb jock that doesn't know what he's doing. That there are others pulling his strings.

And that what really makes people mad is not really the kneeling during the anthem. It's the fact that they have absolutely no control over him




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You ain't the only one whose got problems. You ain't the only one who knows pain. Get up off your ass and just solve them. You still got a chance to try to change, try the shit again.
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92. "Thx, looks like a good read. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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94. "Trump is making it harder to sit this debate out. for players especially..."
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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95. "i see people who previously didnt like the players taking a knee"
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the 'i respect their right but i think they should find another way...' types now like 'yeah gon and take that knee' lol.

trump may be effectively changing the framing from a protest against the flag/military/etc to a protest against him.

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96. "michael rappaport been the voice of liberal america lately lol"
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BZY87RWhAl-/

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97. "trump done got ray lewis to kneel"
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https://twitter.com/deray/status/911949663997132800

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98. "This fool on both knees. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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99. "gotta make up for lost dignity. "
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100. "aaron rogers just posted this on ig. look who else commented:"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKfpG6DXUAQr30S.jpg

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101. "Even Kraft is “deeply disappointed” with 45’s comments. "
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103. "fuck Robert Kraft."
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that's just a PR statement for the sake of his billion-dollar business. he's like the "publicly disappointed" GOP senator who still keeps voting with Trump on everything that matters.

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104. "This is turning out pretty awesome."
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I suggest the context of the knee-taking has widened. It's also about the value of free speech and expression at this point. And there's nothing more American than that.

Great to see the response today.

  

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105. "these dipshits booing during the anthem"
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about disrespecting the anthem

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107. "yuuuup"
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106. "Two national anthem singers take knees at NFL games"
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and one raised the fist.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/national-anthem-singer-falcons-lions-game-takes-knee-article-1.3518000



http://abcnews.go.com/US/singer-national-anthem-seahawks-titans-game-takes-knee/story?id=50065070

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108. "joe buck did some sucker shit during the eagles game."
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fox intentionally didnt broadcast the anthem and any protests.

they go to joe buck and hes like "welcome to philly where the conversation on the field is about how unseasonably hot it is today. 88 degrees." yeah ok joe. im sure thats what everyone is talking about.

to rub it in he goes "we just heard a beautiful rendition of the national anthem. truly chilling". lol what a dickhead.

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